POLL: Does the left want to end capitalism?

[Dragonlady]

Why is the right wing for friction and not liquidity in our markets?

Why aren't our republican friends here with white nationalists in DC?

Why aren't you out there engaging in violence with your fellow ANTIFA Brown Shirts?

None of you alt-right snowflakes showed up. Your big chance to kick anti-fa ass and the chickenshits stayed home. They were so outnumbered by the anti-Nazi protestors they had to travel with a phalanx of police to keep their sorry asses safe.

I thought you all were excited by this opportunity to show solidarity with your racist, brethren and let us all know how you’re in charge now. The Nazis looked like frightened snowflakes with their furtive glances cowering behind their cop protectors.

Since so many of them lost their jobs after appearing on camera and in photographs last year, this year the Nazis covered their faces and refused to be interviewed. Police ferried them from place to place to keep them safe.

I can’t imagine they’ll try this again.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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None of you alt-right snowflakes showed up.

You terrorists must be so disappointed.

Your big chance to kick anti-fa ass and the chickenshits stayed home. They were so outnumbered by the anti-Nazi protestors they had to travel with a phalanx of police to keep their sorry asses safe.

The right prefers reason. It's you Communist motherfuckers who engage in violence.

I thought you all were excited by this opportunity to show solidarity with your racist, brethren and let us all know how you’re in charge now. The Nazis looked like frightened snowflakes with their furtive glances cowering behind their cop protectors.

Since so many of them lost their jobs after appearing on camera and in photographs last year, this year the Nazis covered their faces and refused to be interviewed. Police ferried them from place to place to keep them safe.

I can’t imagine they’ll try this again.

Actually, your just a fucking liar spewing shit. You leftist scum organized the bullshit in Chancellorsville last year and managed to rope a few people in. It was all a setup - YOU fuckers showed up with Nazi flags to create propaganda for the lying fuck leftist media. On Nazi flag shown in virtually every picture the little goebbles of the press showed. I guarantee that the pigs with that flag were leftist shills.

Of course the "organizer" was a leftist pig, an OWS fucker.

{The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) reports that Jason Kessler, the organizer of last Saturday’s white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, is rumored to be a former Occupy Wall Street activist and supporter of Barack Obama.}

Report: Charlottesville Racist Leader Was Former Occupy Activist, Obama Supporter | Breitbart

You wanted violence, but were denied it by your betters.

 

[Wyatt earp]

No you don't, you're just lying.

Obama illegally released the 2005 return to try and corrupt the election. He did not illegally release further returns. Maybe the risk of his treason was too great? Why is Lois Lerner not in prison for that? Releasing the taxes of the opposition candidate for President? Yet she remains free and walking around? Where the fuck is the Grand Inquisitor? You want election tampering? There it is - no way to refute it.

Trump’s return demonstrates why preserving the A.M.T. is essential. More immediately, it also raises the question of who leaked it. During Maddow’s show, Johnston suggested that the documents could possibly have come from Trump himself, or someone acting at his direction. "With Donald, you never know," he said. Obviously, this is just speculation, but there are a number of reasons why the theory that someone connected to Trump may have been the leaker is far from implausible.

For one thing, the leak didn't include the bulk of Trump's tax return or the supporting appendices. These materials would have provided information about any loans he had taken out and details of any income he received from overseas. It is also curious that the return is for 2005, which was a particularly good year for Trump's business. He "sold two properties, one on Manhattan’s west side and one in San Francisco, to Hong Kong investors," a report at the Daily Beast pointed out.

Trump paying $38 million wasn't enough for you, comrade? How much should he have paid?

what about the other 20 or so years .....?

What about them?

Why hide them after showing the ONE where he paid ,,, that still left out much info?

Because for the millionth time Harry Reid lied about Romney's ...



Who in their right mind now would release them?


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[bripat9643]

The capitalist system provides us with a ruling class. The objective of the socialist system is to eliminate it.

That is astoundingly ignorant. That is the epitome of ignorant. First of all, capitalism does not create a “ruling class”. Everybody is completely free to do whatever the fuck they want - including starting their own business.

Secondly, socialism oppressed the people through an awful ruling class. It doesn’t seek to “eliminate” a ruling class. It seeks to control everything and everyone.

Capitalism destroys the ruling class. Free and unfettered markets are a ladder of success that any person with talent and ambition can climb. This threatens the position of the ruling elite, hence the fabrication of idiocy such as Marxism, which is just Monarchist rule repackaged to appeal to the stupid and lazy.


The point of Marxism is to destroy the bourgeoisie, the middle class of merchants and entrepreneurs, so as to destroy the path of economic freedom and put the yolk of serfdom back on the masses. The goal is to protect the wealth, power, and position of the ruling elite from the usurpers who climb above their station.

Marx was a student of Hegel, Hegelian thought revolves around, in fact is consumed with the desire to restore the Monarchy and roll back the enlightenment. Hegel termed absolute and unquestioning obedience to the crown, or state, to be an "ethical life." Liberty in any form, questioning of the absolute rule of the monarchy or state was therefor immoral and unethical.

Haha, this is a great laughing material.

The Capitalist elite are a major problem now, as they buy their way to power, to import immigrants, and export jobs overseas just to maximize profits, so they can grow in wealth, at our expense.

Capitalism often behaves like Communism, cutting corners on products to make profits, while Communists cut corners on products to make ends meet.

Note that new Capitalist apartments, or condos often look like the ones the Communists made in recent years.

It's about the big bucks, pride is destroyed.

Here is a car produced by socialism:

Originally, production was only planned to run from 1967 to 1971, but instead continued until 1990. The original engine was only 17 kW (23 hp), but in 1969 a new version was offered with a 19.1 kW (26 hp) engine. In 1974 a Needle roller bearing was added to the connecting rod, allowing for a 50/1 lubricant to be used. Through the addition of a 2-stage carburetor in 1984, the fuel consumption was brought down by 1/100 l/km. With these additions, the top speed was measured to be 107 km/h.[3] Even with these improvements the fuel consumption could still rise rapidly with extended acceleration or when towing a trailer. The P601 also had an overrunning clutch when running in 4th gear. Over the course of decades, the design of the Trabant changed little. This caused the increasingly obsolete Trabant's reputation to worsen as time progressed.

Note that Capitalist apartments or condos look nothing like like the ones the Communists made in recent years. Furthermore, all the plumbing works and the power is on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

 

[bripat9643]

What is the left correct about?

Completely unchecked capitalism does not work for ordinary people. It eats itself and becomes destructive to the comfort of everyday people.

Wrong. Unchecked capitalism produced the greatest increase in the standard of living for the common man ever seen.

The industrial revolution didn't hurt.

Right, which was caused by "unchecked capitalism," not government

Which led to the Gilded Age: Poverty, unsafe working conditions, child labor and labor unions

The golden age was a lot better than the previous age that idiots like you admire. The rate of child mortality was far higher before capitalism than after. The English population boomed under capitalism. That's a fact that socialist morons can't get around. All your criticisms of capitalism existed before capitalism.

 

[edward37]

Why is the right wing for friction and not liquidity in our markets?

Why aren't our republican friends here with white nationalists in DC?

Why aren't you out there engaging in violence with your fellow ANTIFA Brown Shirts?

lol a little too old to kick racist ass

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The capitalist system provides us with a ruling class. The objective of the socialist system is to eliminate it.

That is astoundingly ignorant. That is the epitome of ignorant. First of all, capitalism does not create a “ruling class”. Everybody is completely free to do whatever the fuck they want - including starting their own business.

Secondly, socialism oppressed the people through an awful ruling class. It doesn’t seek to “eliminate” a ruling class. It seeks to control everything and everyone.

Capitalism destroys the ruling class. Free and unfettered markets are a ladder of success that any person with talent and ambition can climb. This threatens the position of the ruling elite, hence the fabrication of idiocy such as Marxism, which is just Monarchist rule repackaged to appeal to the stupid and lazy.


The point of Marxism is to destroy the bourgeoisie, the middle class of merchants and entrepreneurs, so as to destroy the path of economic freedom and put the yolk of serfdom back on the masses. The goal is to protect the wealth, power, and position of the ruling elite from the usurpers who climb above their station.

Marx was a student of Hegel, Hegelian thought revolves around, in fact is consumed with the desire to restore the Monarchy and roll back the enlightenment. Hegel termed absolute and unquestioning obedience to the crown, or state, to be an "ethical life." Liberty in any form, questioning of the absolute rule of the monarchy or state was therefor immoral and unethical.

Haha, this is a great laughing material.

The Capitalist elite are a major problem now, as they buy their way to power, to import immigrants, and export jobs overseas just to maximize profits, so they can grow in wealth, at our expense.

Capitalism often behaves like Communism, cutting corners on products to make profits, while Communists cut corners on products to make ends meet.

Note that new Capitalist apartments, or condos often look like the ones the Communists made in recent years.

It's about the big bucks, pride is destroyed.

Here is a car produced by socialism:

Originally, production was only planned to run from 1967 to 1971, but instead continued until 1990. The original engine was only 17 kW (23 hp), but in 1969 a new version was offered with a 19.1 kW (26 hp) engine. In 1974 a Needle roller bearing was added to the connecting rod, allowing for a 50/1 lubricant to be used. Through the addition of a 2-stage carburetor in 1984, the fuel consumption was brought down by 1/100 l/km. With these additions, the top speed was measured to be 107 km/h.[3] Even with these improvements the fuel consumption could still rise rapidly with extended acceleration or when towing a trailer. The P601 also had an overrunning clutch when running in 4th gear. Over the course of decades, the design of the Trabant changed little. This caused the increasingly obsolete Trabant's reputation to worsen as time progressed.

Note that Capitalist apartments or condos look nothing like like the ones the Communists made in recent years. Furthermore, all the plumbing works and the power is on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

What about the cars Fascism produced like Volkswagen?

 

[danielpalos]

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and giga-recycling factories to help with social costs.

 

[bripat9643]

The capitalist system provides us with a ruling class. The objective of the socialist system is to eliminate it.

That is astoundingly ignorant. That is the epitome of ignorant. First of all, capitalism does not create a “ruling class”. Everybody is completely free to do whatever the fuck they want - including starting their own business.

Secondly, socialism oppressed the people through an awful ruling class. It doesn’t seek to “eliminate” a ruling class. It seeks to control everything and everyone.

Capitalism destroys the ruling class. Free and unfettered markets are a ladder of success that any person with talent and ambition can climb. This threatens the position of the ruling elite, hence the fabrication of idiocy such as Marxism, which is just Monarchist rule repackaged to appeal to the stupid and lazy.


The point of Marxism is to destroy the bourgeoisie, the middle class of merchants and entrepreneurs, so as to destroy the path of economic freedom and put the yolk of serfdom back on the masses. The goal is to protect the wealth, power, and position of the ruling elite from the usurpers who climb above their station.

Marx was a student of Hegel, Hegelian thought revolves around, in fact is consumed with the desire to restore the Monarchy and roll back the enlightenment. Hegel termed absolute and unquestioning obedience to the crown, or state, to be an "ethical life." Liberty in any form, questioning of the absolute rule of the monarchy or state was therefor immoral and unethical.

Haha, this is a great laughing material.

The Capitalist elite are a major problem now, as they buy their way to power, to import immigrants, and export jobs overseas just to maximize profits, so they can grow in wealth, at our expense.

Capitalism often behaves like Communism, cutting corners on products to make profits, while Communists cut corners on products to make ends meet.

Note that new Capitalist apartments, or condos often look like the ones the Communists made in recent years.

It's about the big bucks, pride is destroyed.

Here is a car produced by socialism:

Originally, production was only planned to run from 1967 to 1971, but instead continued until 1990. The original engine was only 17 kW (23 hp), but in 1969 a new version was offered with a 19.1 kW (26 hp) engine. In 1974 a Needle roller bearing was added to the connecting rod, allowing for a 50/1 lubricant to be used. Through the addition of a 2-stage carburetor in 1984, the fuel consumption was brought down by 1/100 l/km. With these additions, the top speed was measured to be 107 km/h.[3] Even with these improvements the fuel consumption could still rise rapidly with extended acceleration or when towing a trailer. The P601 also had an overrunning clutch when running in 4th gear. Over the course of decades, the design of the Trabant changed little. This caused the increasingly obsolete Trabant's reputation to worsen as time progressed.

Note that Capitalist apartments or condos look nothing like like the ones the Communists made in recent years. Furthermore, all the plumbing works and the power is on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

What about the cars Fascism produced like Volkswagen?

The Volkswagen became a hit under capitalism. It has been produced by a private corporation for about 70 years now.

 

[Dragonlady]

Completely unchecked capitalism does not work for ordinary people. It eats itself and becomes destructive to the comfort of everyday people.

Wrong. Unchecked capitalism produced the greatest increase in the standard of living for the common man ever seen.

The industrial revolution didn't hurt.

Right, which was caused by "unchecked capitalism," not government

Which led to the Gilded Age: Poverty, unsafe working conditions, child labor and labor unions

The golden age was a lot better than the previous age that idiots like you admire. The rate of child mortality was far higher before capitalism than after. The English population boomed under capitalism. That's a fact that socialist morons can't get around. All your criticisms of capitalism existed before capitalism.

The progression of the social modernization of the world had little to do with capitalism and a lot more to do with modern plumbing and sanitation.

Child mortality rates in particular dropped because of safe drinking water and modern sewage systems. Capitalism wasn’t the driving force. Throughout the world, the forces that built infrastructure for the cities were governments.

The Gilded Age lead to monopolies, price fixing, unsafe working conditions and unnecessary and preventable worker deaths.

Your forefathers restrained and regulated capitalism and passed anti-trust laws. Unions came about to protect workers rights and safety because capitalists refused to provide decent wages or safe working conditions. And because just like today, workers weren’t being paid their fair share for the work done.

Today, labour costs, as a percentage of business expenses, are at the same level as the Gilded Age. Republicans have undone all of the gains by workers in income and profit sharing over the past 140 years, and today’s monopolies and price fixing are the just making things worse.

Because of periods of growth and contraction, a healthy capitalist society requires a strong social safety net to protect the most economically vulnerable during the recessions. The US has the most expensive, unwieldy, and complicated social safety net of any first world country.

There seems to be a strong correlation between corporate size and income inequity, which we’ve seen rising since conservatives took office in the 1980’s. The larger the corporation, the less the workers make and the more management makes. Mega corporations tilt their income to management and shareholders. The employees get a smaller and smaller piece of the pie.

In the 1960’s when anti-trust laws were still being enforced, top management made, on average, 10 times the salary of their lowest paid workers. Today, they make 200 times more. And there are many more layers of management. Front line workers, the people who actually do the work of the corporations and service their customers, have to rely on social assistance for food in far too many large corporations.

Welcome to the new Gilded Age.

 

[otto105]

Can we have capitalism if we take white privilege out of it?

I'd get my white privilege, if I could only catch a Unicorn. To have white privilege, you HAVE to catch a Unicorn and have it lead you the secret stash....

Catching white privilege is a unicorn?

 

[SavannahMann]

The capitalist system provides us with a ruling class. The objective of the socialist system is to eliminate it.

That is astoundingly ignorant. That is the epitome of ignorant. First of all, capitalism does not create a “ruling class”. Everybody is completely free to do whatever the fuck they want - including starting their own business.

Secondly, socialism oppressed the people through an awful ruling class. It doesn’t seek to “eliminate” a ruling class. It seeks to control everything and everyone.

Capitalism destroys the ruling class. Free and unfettered markets are a ladder of success that any person with talent and ambition can climb. This threatens the position of the ruling elite, hence the fabrication of idiocy such as Marxism, which is just Monarchist rule repackaged to appeal to the stupid and lazy.


The point of Marxism is to destroy the bourgeoisie, the middle class of merchants and entrepreneurs, so as to destroy the path of economic freedom and put the yolk of serfdom back on the masses. The goal is to protect the wealth, power, and position of the ruling elite from the usurpers who climb above their station.

Marx was a student of Hegel, Hegelian thought revolves around, in fact is consumed with the desire to restore the Monarchy and roll back the enlightenment. Hegel termed absolute and unquestioning obedience to the crown, or state, to be an "ethical life." Liberty in any form, questioning of the absolute rule of the monarchy or state was therefor immoral and unethical.

Haha, this is a great laughing material.

The Capitalist elite are a major problem now, as they buy their way to power, to import immigrants, and export jobs overseas just to maximize profits, so they can grow in wealth, at our expense.

Capitalism often behaves like Communism, cutting corners on products to make profits, while Communists cut corners on products to make ends meet.

Note that new Capitalist apartments, or condos often look like the ones the Communists made in recent years.

It's about the big bucks, pride is destroyed.

Here is a car produced by socialism:

Originally, production was only planned to run from 1967 to 1971, but instead continued until 1990. The original engine was only 17 kW (23 hp), but in 1969 a new version was offered with a 19.1 kW (26 hp) engine. In 1974 a Needle roller bearing was added to the connecting rod, allowing for a 50/1 lubricant to be used. Through the addition of a 2-stage carburetor in 1984, the fuel consumption was brought down by 1/100 l/km. With these additions, the top speed was measured to be 107 km/h.[3] Even with these improvements the fuel consumption could still rise rapidly with extended acceleration or when towing a trailer. The P601 also had an overrunning clutch when running in 4th gear. Over the course of decades, the design of the Trabant changed little. This caused the increasingly obsolete Trabant's reputation to worsen as time progressed.

Note that Capitalist apartments or condos look nothing like like the ones the Communists made in recent years. Furthermore, all the plumbing works and the power is on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

What about the cars Fascism produced like Volkswagen?

I presume you mean the lies and cheating on emissions. You are aware of course that even with the cheating the diesel powered VW cars were cleaner than a dozen Trebants. That does not include the fact that the body of the Trabby is non biodegradable and if burned releases far more toxic fumes than a fleet of VW Diesels ever will.


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[Kosh]

The far left wants to be Nazi's and have the government control everything, including speech, thoughts, etc.

 

[P@triot]

Why would Fascists tolerate cutting corners on products, exactly?

Because people who are slaves of the state are demotivated. There is no incentive. None. And there is no reason to strive for excellence. Quite the contrary, being a slave to the state causes people to rebel - even in ways such as sabotaging the products they are “hired” to make.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The capitalist system provides us with a ruling class. The objective of the socialist system is to eliminate it.

That is astoundingly ignorant. That is the epitome of ignorant. First of all, capitalism does not create a “ruling class”. Everybody is completely free to do whatever the fuck they want - including starting their own business.

Secondly, socialism oppressed the people through an awful ruling class. It doesn’t seek to “eliminate” a ruling class. It seeks to control everything and everyone.

Capitalism destroys the ruling class. Free and unfettered markets are a ladder of success that any person with talent and ambition can climb. This threatens the position of the ruling elite, hence the fabrication of idiocy such as Marxism, which is just Monarchist rule repackaged to appeal to the stupid and lazy.


The point of Marxism is to destroy the bourgeoisie, the middle class of merchants and entrepreneurs, so as to destroy the path of economic freedom and put the yolk of serfdom back on the masses. The goal is to protect the wealth, power, and position of the ruling elite from the usurpers who climb above their station.

Marx was a student of Hegel, Hegelian thought revolves around, in fact is consumed with the desire to restore the Monarchy and roll back the enlightenment. Hegel termed absolute and unquestioning obedience to the crown, or state, to be an "ethical life." Liberty in any form, questioning of the absolute rule of the monarchy or state was therefor immoral and unethical.

Haha, this is a great laughing material.

The Capitalist elite are a major problem now, as they buy their way to power, to import immigrants, and export jobs overseas just to maximize profits, so they can grow in wealth, at our expense.

Capitalism often behaves like Communism, cutting corners on products to make profits, while Communists cut corners on products to make ends meet.

Note that new Capitalist apartments, or condos often look like the ones the Communists made in recent years.

It's about the big bucks, pride is destroyed.

Here is a car produced by socialism:

Originally, production was only planned to run from 1967 to 1971, but instead continued until 1990. The original engine was only 17 kW (23 hp), but in 1969 a new version was offered with a 19.1 kW (26 hp) engine. In 1974 a Needle roller bearing was added to the connecting rod, allowing for a 50/1 lubricant to be used. Through the addition of a 2-stage carburetor in 1984, the fuel consumption was brought down by 1/100 l/km. With these additions, the top speed was measured to be 107 km/h.[3] Even with these improvements the fuel consumption could still rise rapidly with extended acceleration or when towing a trailer. The P601 also had an overrunning clutch when running in 4th gear. Over the course of decades, the design of the Trabant changed little. This caused the increasingly obsolete Trabant's reputation to worsen as time progressed.

Note that Capitalist apartments or condos look nothing like like the ones the Communists made in recent years. Furthermore, all the plumbing works and the power is on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Thank you, I was thinking the same thing when Billy posted his Norway thread


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[danielpalos]

The far left wants to be Nazi's and have the government control everything, including speech, thoughts, etc.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and giga-recycling factories to help with social costs.

 

[Kosh]

The far left wants to be Nazi's and have the government control everything, including speech, thoughts, etc.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and giga-recycling factories to help with social costs.

And you see how the far left chimes in and runs their tired old debunked religious narratives, thus proving my point for me.

 

[danielpalos]

The far left wants to be Nazi's and have the government control everything, including speech, thoughts, etc.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and giga-recycling factories to help with social costs.

And you see how the far left chimes in and runs their tired old debunked religious narratives, thus proving my point for me.

what is that; having nothing but fallacy and your unsubstantiated opinion?

 

[Kosh]

The far left wants to be Nazi's and have the government control everything, including speech, thoughts, etc.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and giga-recycling factories to help with social costs.

And you see how the far left chimes in and runs their tired old debunked religious narratives, thus proving my point for me.

what is that; having nothing but fallacy and your unsubstantiated opinion?

Yes you are running a debunked far left religious narrative, proving you do not understand anything outside those narratives.

You want the government to control everything, including speech, thought etc.

Just like the Nazi's

 

[danielpalos]

The far left wants to be Nazi's and have the government control everything, including speech, thoughts, etc.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and giga-recycling factories to help with social costs.

And you see how the far left chimes in and runs their tired old debunked religious narratives, thus proving my point for me.

what is that; having nothing but fallacy and your unsubstantiated opinion?

Yes you are running a debunked far left religious narrative, proving you do not understand anything outside those narratives.

You want the government to control everything, including speech, thought etc.

Just like the Nazi's

I would go along with you, but you have nothing but fallacy and that is simply, too inferior; we can Never get it past the superiority committee, should it ever come up.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and giga-recycling factories to help with social costs.