POLL: Does the left want to end capitalism?

[Mac1958]

You're absolutely a coward because you can't address direct responses to your posts.
Your background is finance/economics/management, but you claim to not even know that Obamacare had driven companies to cut hours to under 30 for a lot of workers to keep them from having to pay for their healthcare

I did?

Where?

This is precisely why I don't burn time on wingers. Either side. You folks lie as naturally as you breathe. Thanks.
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[kaz]

You're absolutely a coward because you can't address direct responses to your posts.
Your background is finance/economics/management, but you claim to not even know that Obamacare had driven companies to cut hours to under 30 for a lot of workers to keep them from having to pay for their healthcare

I did?

Where?

This is precisely why I don't burn time on wingers. You folks lie as naturally as you breathe. Thanks.
.

You're the liar. Here you go, bubba. You called it a right wing radio talking point

The joke is that you think government control provides equilibrium and free markets don't. Government regulates more and more driving more businesses under and creating endless unemployment and a permanent under class. Yeah, that's a balance of opposing forces, guy.

For example, government came in and forced businesses to give all full time employees healthcare, so companies cut the hours of millions of people to under 30 a week. Government is driving manufacturing offshore, causing companies to streamline operations and reduce staff and automation causing companies to eliminate staff. Yeah, that's equilibrium. Let's just you just believe that, bubba

You're a hardcore right winger who suffers from the standard ideological shallow myopia.

I have to take this stuff seriously, because finance/economics/markets are my profession.

You're free to obediently spout off talk radio talking points all you want. I'm just not obligated to participate.
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It was in your quote, liar, you cut it out

 

[Mac1958]

You're absolutely a coward because you can't address direct responses to your posts.
Your background is finance/economics/management, but you claim to not even know that Obamacare had driven companies to cut hours to under 30 for a lot of workers to keep them from having to pay for their healthcare

I did?

Where?

This is precisely why I don't burn time on wingers. You folks lie as naturally as you breathe. Thanks.
.

You're the liar. Here you go, bubba. You called it a right wing radio talking point

The joke is that you think government control provides equilibrium and free markets don't. Government regulates more and more driving more businesses under and creating endless unemployment and a permanent under class. Yeah, that's a balance of opposing forces, guy.

For example, government came in and forced businesses to give all full time employees healthcare, so companies cut the hours of millions of people to under 30 a week. Government is driving manufacturing offshore, causing companies to streamline operations and reduce staff and automation causing companies to eliminate staff. Yeah, that's equilibrium. Let's just you just believe that, bubba

Okay, thanks!
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Another contentless Mac post

You're a hardcore right winger who suffers from the standard ideological shallow myopia.

I have to take this stuff seriously, because finance/economics/markets are my profession.

You're free to obediently spout off talk radio talking points all you want. I'm just not obligated to participate.
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It was in your quote, liar, you cut it out[/QUOTE]
When I say something specific, you're free to quote me.

I made a general comment, and you made it specific.

Another reason I don't burn time on you people.
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[kaz]

When I say something specific, you're free to quote me.

I made a general comment, and you made it specific.

Another reason I don't burn time on you people.
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This wasn't specific? "You're free to obediently spout off talk radio talking points all you want." That's what you said in response to my specific points. So since it turns out you agree with my "talk radio talking point," which ones did you not know that you were referring to?

To reduce onshore employment and government regulations, companies:

- move manufacturing offshore
- streamline and reduce staff
- automate

Since those four points were the ones you called "talk radio talking points," the others must have been the ones you didn't know. Or did you actually know those too and you were just being your typical full of shit self?

 

[Mac1958]

When I say something specific, you're free to quote me.

I made a general comment, and you made it specific.

Another reason I don't burn time on you people.
.

This wasn't specific? "You're free to obediently spout off talk radio talking points all you want." That's what you said in response to my specific points. So since it turns out you agree with my "talk radio talking point," which ones did you not know that you were referring to?

To reduce onshore employment and government regulations, companies:

- move manufacturing offshore
- streamline and reduce staff
- automate

Since those four points were the ones you called "talk radio talking points," the others must have been the ones you didn't know. Or did you actually know those too and you were just being your typical full of shit self?

Boy, you're so right. I'm full of shit, and a coward and a liar.

I'm also a ________, a _____________ and a __________. Feel free to fill in the blanks, I'll sign off on them.

I don't know why you think your opinion is important to me.
.

 

[kaz]

When I say something specific, you're free to quote me.

I made a general comment, and you made it specific.

Another reason I don't burn time on you people.
.

This wasn't specific? "You're free to obediently spout off talk radio talking points all you want." That's what you said in response to my specific points. So since it turns out you agree with my "talk radio talking point," which ones did you not know that you were referring to?

To reduce onshore employment and government regulations, companies:

- move manufacturing offshore
- streamline and reduce staff
- automate

Since those four points were the ones you called "talk radio talking points," the others must have been the ones you didn't know. Or did you actually know those too and you were just being your typical full of shit self?

Boy, you're so right. I'm full of shit, and a coward and a liar.

I'm also a ________, a _____________ and a __________. Feel free to fill in the blanks, I'll sign off on them.

I don't know why you think your opinion is important to me.
.

Yes:

kaz: Companies in response to government regulations:

- cut hours to under 30 a week so they don't need to pay for healthcare
- offshore
- streamline
- automate

Mac: Those are right wing radio talking points. Oh, and my career is finance/economics/management

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why would Fascists tolerate cutting corners on products, exactly?

Because people who are slaves of the state are demotivated. There is no incentive. None. And there is no reason to strive for excellence. Quite the contrary, being a slave to the state causes people to rebel - even in ways such as sabotaging the products they are “hired” to make.

No motivation?
But, Nazi Germany turned around the economy better than the U.S.A had in WW2, and Franco's Spain had the #1 economic growth in 20th Century Europe in the Spanish Miracle.

 

[irosie91]

thanks for your superficial and idiotic analysis-----sobie dear

 

[sealybobo]

A cute lie, but a lie nonetheless.

The separation between the haves and have nots haven't grown yearly?

They blame democrats one minute then the next deny it’s true or a problem

You're not very smart, bubba.

The point is that you keep wailing about income and wealth gaps, but those just grow under Democrats. So when you said it's "blame" Democrats and "deny it's true or a problem," you're wrong and wrong, that's not the point.

No point is simple enough for you simpletons to grasp it

But but but Trumps tax break grew the gap.

Yet again

This millionaire will explain why the gap between rich and poor is growing and why it's a problem, but will you listen?

 

[Kosh]

The separation between the haves and have nots haven't grown yearly?

They blame democrats one minute then the next deny it’s true or a problem

You're not very smart, bubba.

The point is that you keep wailing about income and wealth gaps, but those just grow under Democrats. So when you said it's "blame" Democrats and "deny it's true or a problem," you're wrong and wrong, that's not the point.

No point is simple enough for you simpletons to grasp it

But but but Trumps tax break grew the gap.

Yet again

This millionaire will explain why the gap between rich and poor is growing and why it's a problem, but will you listen?

And yet you cheered on Obama as that gap got bigger under his "leadership"..

See how the far left drones will ignore their own GOD's..

 

[danielpalos]

what is that; having nothing but fallacy and your unsubstantiated opinion?

Yes you are running a debunked far left religious narrative, proving you do not understand anything outside those narratives.

You want the government to control everything, including speech, thought etc.

Just like the Nazi's

I would go along with you, but you have nothing but fallacy and that is simply, too inferior; we can Never get it past the superiority committee, should it ever come up.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and giga-recycling factories to help with social costs.

Come back when you understand how economics works and you can not run debunked far left religious dogma.

Only in right wing fantasy, dear. In the ordinary world, you merely have Excuses, not Arguments.

Yes you have nothing other than debunked far left religious dogma, we know that.

The far left does not understand basic economics, let alone how capitalism works.

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or the law, Constitutional or otherwise.

Nothing but fake news from the right wing.

Your inflation canard is just that.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and giga-recycling factories to help with social costs.

 

[sealybobo]

They blame democrats one minute then the next deny it’s true or a problem

You're not very smart, bubba.

The point is that you keep wailing about income and wealth gaps, but those just grow under Democrats. So when you said it's "blame" Democrats and "deny it's true or a problem," you're wrong and wrong, that's not the point.

No point is simple enough for you simpletons to grasp it

But but but Trumps tax break grew the gap.

Yet again

This millionaire will explain why the gap between rich and poor is growing and why it's a problem, but will you listen?

And yet you cheered on Obama as that gap got bigger under his "leadership"..

See how the far left drones will ignore their own GOD's..

No I booed the GOP who obstructed him solving the problem.

 

[sealybobo]

They blame democrats one minute then the next deny it’s true or a problem

You're not very smart, bubba.

The point is that you keep wailing about income and wealth gaps, but those just grow under Democrats. So when you said it's "blame" Democrats and "deny it's true or a problem," you're wrong and wrong, that's not the point.

No point is simple enough for you simpletons to grasp it

But but but Trumps tax break grew the gap.

Yet again

This millionaire will explain why the gap between rich and poor is growing and why it's a problem, but will you listen?

And yet you cheered on Obama as that gap got bigger under his "leadership"..

See how the far left drones will ignore their own GOD's..

Donald Trump keeps bragging about the economy — an unemployment rate of just 3.9 percent, 3.7 million jobs created since he took office, consumer confidence up. Will this help the Republicans in the 2018 midterms? Probably not.

If anything, the good economic performance paradoxically will hurt the GOP. Why? Because it’s not trickling down to ordinary people. Voters hear news reports and claims about the strong economy but know that their own wages are still lousy. This reinforces their sense that someone else is making off with the gains. And the statistics bear them out. Because of structural changes in the job market, real wages adjusted for inflation are actually flat.

The Economy Won't Save Republicans In The Midterms | HuffPost

Because trickle down has never worked. Not with Reagan, Bush, Bush 2 or Trump.

 

[sealybobo]

What structural changes? A shift in power from the worker to the boss. A shift to part-time, temp and contract work. An escalation in the war against unions.

This the first time in modern economic history that very low unemployment rates and tight labor markets have not led to higher worker earnings. Regular people may not grasp the finer nuances of labor market theory, but they know when the boss is giving them a good screwing.

 

[Kosh]

You're not very smart, bubba.

The point is that you keep wailing about income and wealth gaps, but those just grow under Democrats. So when you said it's "blame" Democrats and "deny it's true or a problem," you're wrong and wrong, that's not the point.

No point is simple enough for you simpletons to grasp it

But but but Trumps tax break grew the gap.

Yet again

This millionaire will explain why the gap between rich and poor is growing and why it's a problem, but will you listen?

And yet you cheered on Obama as that gap got bigger under his "leadership"..

See how the far left drones will ignore their own GOD's..

No I booed the GOP who obstructed him solving the problem.

And the far left religious dogma continues..

 

[danielpalos]

But but but Trumps tax break grew the gap.

Yet again

This millionaire will explain why the gap between rich and poor is growing and why it's a problem, but will you listen?

And yet you cheered on Obama as that gap got bigger under his "leadership"..

See how the far left drones will ignore their own GOD's..

No I booed the GOP who obstructed him solving the problem.

And the far left religious dogma continues..

unlike the "religious tax cut economics" dogma of the right wing.

 

[Kosh]

You're not very smart, bubba.

The point is that you keep wailing about income and wealth gaps, but those just grow under Democrats. So when you said it's "blame" Democrats and "deny it's true or a problem," you're wrong and wrong, that's not the point.

No point is simple enough for you simpletons to grasp it

But but but Trumps tax break grew the gap.

Yet again

This millionaire will explain why the gap between rich and poor is growing and why it's a problem, but will you listen?

And yet you cheered on Obama as that gap got bigger under his "leadership"..

See how the far left drones will ignore their own GOD's..

Donald Trump keeps bragging about the economy — an unemployment rate of just 3.9 percent, 3.7 million jobs created since he took office, consumer confidence up. Will this help the Republicans in the 2018 midterms? Probably not.

If anything, the good economic performance paradoxically will hurt the GOP. Why? Because it’s not trickling down to ordinary people. Voters hear news reports and claims about the strong economy but know that their own wages are still lousy. This reinforces their sense that someone else is making off with the gains. And the statistics bear them out. Because of structural changes in the job market, real wages adjusted for inflation are actually flat.

The Economy Won't Save Republicans In The Midterms | HuffPost

Because trickle down has never worked. Not with Reagan, Bush, Bush 2 or Trump.

Oh using a Huffington Post opinion piece for your facts?

Well the huff post is a known far left hack site, might as well have used the onion since they are about the same.

Another far left religious follower being told what to say by their white rich far left masters.

 

[sealybobo]

But but but Trumps tax break grew the gap.

Yet again

This millionaire will explain why the gap between rich and poor is growing and why it's a problem, but will you listen?

And yet you cheered on Obama as that gap got bigger under his "leadership"..

See how the far left drones will ignore their own GOD's..

No I booed the GOP who obstructed him solving the problem.

And the far left religious dogma continues..

First, the huge tax cuts have created an old-fashioned deficit-driven stimulus. That’s not a great idea when the economy is already at full employment because it creates concern about inflation. This is exaggerated in this low-wage economy, but it gives the Federal Reserve a reason to hike interest rates.


The Fed has held off on rate hikes for the moment but is likely to increase interest rates in coming months, most likely in September, two months before the midterm elections. These higher rates will cycle through to everything from credit cards to home mortgages. Consumers will not experience higher wages, but they will experience higher costs.

 

[Kosh]

Yet again

This millionaire will explain why the gap between rich and poor is growing and why it's a problem, but will you listen?

And yet you cheered on Obama as that gap got bigger under his "leadership"..

See how the far left drones will ignore their own GOD's..

No I booed the GOP who obstructed him solving the problem.

And the far left religious dogma continues..

unlike the "religious tax cut economics" dogma of the right wing.

See they can not help it, the far left just posts their religious dogma that is not based in reality.

But please support the far left in goals of repealing the tax cuts, abolishing ICE and their support of illegals over legal citizens.

That should help you win the election..

 

[sealybobo]

But but but Trumps tax break grew the gap.

Yet again

This millionaire will explain why the gap between rich and poor is growing and why it's a problem, but will you listen?

And yet you cheered on Obama as that gap got bigger under his "leadership"..

See how the far left drones will ignore their own GOD's..

Donald Trump keeps bragging about the economy — an unemployment rate of just 3.9 percent, 3.7 million jobs created since he took office, consumer confidence up. Will this help the Republicans in the 2018 midterms? Probably not.

If anything, the good economic performance paradoxically will hurt the GOP. Why? Because it’s not trickling down to ordinary people. Voters hear news reports and claims about the strong economy but know that their own wages are still lousy. This reinforces their sense that someone else is making off with the gains. And the statistics bear them out. Because of structural changes in the job market, real wages adjusted for inflation are actually flat.

The Economy Won't Save Republicans In The Midterms | HuffPost

Because trickle down has never worked. Not with Reagan, Bush, Bush 2 or Trump.

Oh using a Huffington Post opinion piece for your facts?

Well the huff post is a known far left hack site, might as well have used the onion since they are about the same.

Another far left religious follower being told what to say by their white rich far left masters.

You keep trying to make the conversation about Omarosa instead of the fact that Trump uses the N word. Or, you try to argue about the HuffPo because you don't like the information found on that site

Secondly, corporations have put their savings from Republican tax cuts into stock buybacks. This pumps up share value, enriching executives and investors, but risks creating another financial bubble. And that is very likely to pop on Trump’s watch. This is also widening the gap between rich and poor. That's ok now because Trump's president. You blamed Obama but now you don't even care about the widening gap. Now is when you start crying socialism or communism because you are a fucking idiot!

And lastly, Trump’s trade war has not done serious damage to the economy as a whole ― yet. But damage in key sectors that supported Trump is coming soon, from manufacturing to soybeans.

So the economy displays strong numbers, on average and for the moment. But the average good performance is not benefiting workers, and it is not likely to last.