POLL: Is your mind made up on Trump's crimes, or are you waiting for the final score?

[LoneLaugher]

Who is going to go on record as vowing to accept the Mueller Investigation findings as fact?

I will.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Guilty of what? Being a jerkass? We already knew that and voted for him anyway.

His hideous hair is like a monstrosity...

thats about all you trump haters can come up with in your desperate attempts to say he is guilty of something.

I'd love to know how many people who post on USMB aren't posting much on the various Trump crime threads because they they haven't made up their minds yet.

Me, I voted against Trump, and his term has been a mix between a circus and a horror movie for me. But this whole partisan freak show is so loud and ridiculous that I'd rather just wait until the dust has settled.

Just like with Obama and Hillary, every rumor is treated as fact, every day brings "we've got 'em this time", and every hour brings a celebration that the bad guys are going to jail. Like a pack of hungry jackals dancing around a fresh kill. So it's a little difficult to take it seriously, even though the stakes are high.

So, where are you on this?
.

uh hate to break the news to you but the crimes Obama and Hitlery were involved in were not rumor,they were fact. same as Bush before him and uhh,lets not even talk jail because every THINKING american thats awake knows that there is one different law for politicians ESPECIALLY presidents,than there is for us,that they get away with crimes everyday WE go to jail for.

has there EVER been a president that went to jail? thats right,i did not think so.

 

[koshergrl]

Trump's no criminal, as everybody knows. That's why only criminals will talk shit about him.
Who cares if he's *cleared* by the criminals or not? Not me. Let's go to war.

 

[Tehon]

Who is going to go on record as vowing to accept the Mueller Investigation findings as fact?

I will.

Who is foolish enough to accept the government at their word sight unseen? I mean other than lone laugher.

 

[Mac1958]

Guilty of what? Being a jerkass? We already knew that and voted for him anyway.

His hideous hair is like a monstrosity...

thats about all you trump haters can come up with in your desperate attempts to say he is guilty of something.

I'd love to know how many people who post on USMB aren't posting much on the various Trump crime threads because they they haven't made up their minds yet.

Me, I voted against Trump, and his term has been a mix between a circus and a horror movie for me. But this whole partisan freak show is so loud and ridiculous that I'd rather just wait until the dust has settled.

Just like with Obama and Hillary, every rumor is treated as fact, every day brings "we've got 'em this time", and every hour brings a celebration that the bad guys are going to jail. Like a pack of hungry jackals dancing around a fresh kill. So it's a little difficult to take it seriously, even though the stakes are high.

So, where are you on this?
.

uh hate to break the news to you but the crimes Obama and Hitlery were involved in were not rumor,they were fact. same as Bush before him and uhh,lets not even talk jail because every THINKING american thats awake knows that there is one different law for politicians ESPECIALLY presidents,than there is for us,that they get away with crimes everyday WE go to jail for.

has there EVER been a president that went to jail? thats right,i did not think so.

.

 

[g5000]

I'd love to know how many people who post on USMB aren't posting much on the various Trump crime threads because they they haven't made up their minds yet.

Me, I voted against Trump, and his term has been a mix between a circus and a horror movie for me. But this whole partisan freak show is so loud and ridiculous that I'd rather just wait until the dust has settled.

Just like with Obama and Hillary, every rumor is treated as fact, every day brings "we've got 'em this time", and every hour brings a celebration that the bad guys are going to jail. Like a pack of hungry jackals dancing around a fresh kill. So it's a little difficult to take it seriously, even though the stakes are high.

So, where are you on this?
.

I believe Trump was aware of the collusion going on, but was not an active participant.

I believe Trump committed fraud many, many times before he was President. There's a reason he hired so many crooks and liars to work for him.

I believe Trump fucked Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal and god knows how many other women during his third marriage, just as he did in his first and second marriages.

I believe the pseuedocons have completely chopped off their moral legs across the entire spectrum of human failings and this will come back to bitch slap them over and over and over again in the future.

I believe the Republican party is now just as corrupt, evil, immoral, traitorous, and dangerous to the future of America as the Democratic party is.

I believe the propagandists each side listens to lies constantly and deliberately to their respective rube herds, and I believe Donald Trump lies more than all of them put together. The rubes BEG to be lied to. The last thing any of these tards wants is the truth.

 

[Dragonlady]

I'd love to know how many people who post on USMB aren't posting much on the various Trump crime threads because they they haven't made up their minds yet.

Me, I voted against Trump, and his term has been a mix between a circus and a horror movie for me. But this whole partisan freak show is so loud and ridiculous that I'd rather just wait until the dust has settled.

Just like with Obama and Hillary, every rumor is treated as fact, every day brings "we've got 'em this time", and every hour brings a celebration that the bad guys are going to jail. Like a pack of hungry jackals dancing around a fresh kill. So it's a little difficult to take it seriously, even though the stakes are high.

So, where are you on this?
.

I'm was biased against the Orange Virus 20 years ago. Today's politics are simply treated like a new sport/reality show. Everything is superficial and deeply partisan. It would be hilarious if it was happening to anyone else but us.

What I'm appalled with the media about is their failure to properly inform the American people as to what a slime bucket Trump was BEFORE he started winning primaries. Conservatives here constantly complained that Obama wasn't properly "vetted" by the media, but in fact, there was a lot more media attention paid to bullshit about Obama than there was to facts about Trump.

Trump's history of bankruptcies, which are a record for any American businessman, were glossed over, as was the abject failure of nearly every business or enterprise Trump has started. He had a successful TV show, but all of his construction projects have been plagued with financial problems, and a history of chaotic mismanagement. Every time Donald Trump has invited the public to make money with him, Trump has walked away with millions, and the general public has lost everything.

We have watched Trump install toadies, cronies and criminals in high office. We've watched him loot the public purse via weekends at his golf resorts. He has tried to threaten and intimidate witnesses via Twitter, and the country's finances are now in chaos because of his ill-conceived tax cuts.

None of what has happened since the day Trump rode down the escalator and announced his campaign with a racist diatribe against illegal immigrants in general and Mexicans in particular, is of any surprise to anyone who has watched his career since he was first charged with felony racial discrimination in apartment rentals in NYC in the late 1970's.

As someone who was required to read business gossip as part of my job as a young bank manager back in the late 1970's (quiz during morning coffee), I first started hearing about Donald Trump. I followed his exploits, basically because I was learning the ins and outs of financing the construction business as the time and Trump was entertaining, as I focused on becoming a mortgage specialist. By the time of the Atlantic City bankruptcies, most sensible people had written him off as a rich playboy who was busy convincing people he was a smart businessman, all reasonable evidence to the contrary.

Trump seemed to have found his niche on TV playing a smart businessman. Actually being one, continued to elude him as his projects continued to be plagued with financial problems, years' long delays, and decidedly unspectacular reviews. My friend, the vice-president in charge of marketing for a major online travel group, took me to Sunday brunch at Trump Tower. The ambiance was dark wood and tufted leather masculine, but the gigantic and stunning mural was projected onto the rear wall, not painted.

Sunday brunch with but one cocktail each (and my friend's was alcohol free), was $150. not including tip, and the meal was a buffet. As a friend of mine once said "For $75 per person, they should bring the fucking food to my table". And the food was mediocre, at best. At those prices, I would be unwilling to go back where there are so many better options in that neighbourhood, and they include a view that's every bit as good as Trump Tower, including Canoe, which has a top floor of the Toronto-Dominion Centre, and a 360 degree unobstructed view of Lake Ontario, and the downtown Toronto Skyline. Not quite as spectacular as the view from the restaurant atop the CN Tower, but then Canoe is 1/3 of the price, and has 4.5 stars on trip advisor.

Canoe Restaurant - Inspired by Canada’s Raw, Rich Land

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Guilty of what? Being a jerkass? We already knew that and voted for him anyway.

His hideous hair is like a monstrosity...

...says the person who doesn't own a mirror!

 

[rightwinger]

Who is going to go on record as vowing to accept the Mueller Investigation findings as fact?

I will.

I will

I doubt if it will provide enough to bring down Trump but I will accept the results

 

[deanrd]

Mueller already has the entire alphabet. He’s just dotting the eyes and crossing the tease.

This post is hilarious.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump's no criminal, as everybody knows. That's why only criminals will talk shit about him.
Who cares if he's *cleared* by the criminals or not? Not me. Let's go to war.

He surrounds himself with criminals to avoid culpability

 

[aaronleland]

In his many years as a real estate mogul has he every committed a financial or ethics violation? Most likely. Has he committed any crimes as President? If everything Cohen says is true there are still a lot of gray areas legally. I don't think acknowledging Roger Stone's Wikileaks contacts can be called collusion. Since the payments to Stormy Daniels came from his personal bank account it can be argued that it's not a campaign finance violation.

Ben Shapiro put it very well yesterday. Lets not pretend Trump is an honest, good person, but not being an honest, good person isn't a crime.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Two years of "look under every rock for something to take down Trump" is enough. At no time in our history has a Party attacked a President from his very first day in office. The attacks are based on NOTHING but their own anger and embarrassment at losing.
They open an FBI led investigation on a non-crime and the "smoking gun" is some Facebook ads from a few Russians. That is completely stupid.

Media and entertainment now serve as propaganda ministers dedicated to the overthrow of Donald Trump and The FBI has revealed itself to be a Secret Police force for the Democrats.

That's embarrassing to be that uninformed of the investigations into Obama's birth, his church, his secret gun confiscation lusts..benghaziiiiii....blahblah....his commie-ness and all the like. Were you watching the golf or fishing channels during those 8 years - or?

Uh, most of that was BEFORE he got elected, dumbass!

 

[DOTR]

I'd love to know how many people who post on USMB aren't posting much on the various Trump crime threads because they they haven't made up their minds yet.

Me, I voted against Trump, and his term has been a mix between a circus and a horror movie for me. But this whole partisan freak show is so loud and ridiculous that I'd rather just wait until the dust has settled.

Just like with Obama and Hillary, every rumor is treated as fact, every day brings "we've got 'em this time", and every hour brings a celebration that the bad guys are going to jail. Like a pack of hungry jackals dancing around a fresh kill. So it's a little difficult to take it seriously, even though the stakes are high.

So, where are you on this?
.

But have to admit it’s pretty entertaining to watch people here scream for years “we got him now...this time...for sure....”

 

[G.T.]

Two years of "look under every rock for something to take down Trump" is enough. At no time in our history has a Party attacked a President from his very first day in office. The attacks are based on NOTHING but their own anger and embarrassment at losing.
They open an FBI led investigation on a non-crime and the "smoking gun" is some Facebook ads from a few Russians. That is completely stupid.

Media and entertainment now serve as propaganda ministers dedicated to the overthrow of Donald Trump and The FBI has revealed itself to be a Secret Police force for the Democrats.

That's embarrassing to be that uninformed of the investigations into Obama's birth, his church, his secret gun confiscation lusts..benghaziiiiii....blahblah....his commie-ness and all the like. Were you watching the golf or fishing channels during those 8 years - or?

Uh, most of that was BEFORE he got elected, dumbass!

Well FUCK me running, I guess I DIDN'T see all the dog & pony hearings that I saw, about it.

 

[Moonglow]

Guilty of what? Being a jerkass? We already knew that and voted for him anyway.

His hideous hair is like a monstrosity...

...says the person who doesn't own a mirror!

I own lots of mirrors they are just in storage.

 

[The Original Tree]

The Poll should read...

"Is your mind made up on Deep State Crimes against Democracy or are you waiting for Lynch, Comey, Rice, Clinton Obama, McCabe, Strozk's Trials First?"

The whole world is catching on to what happened now.

Barak Obama ordered a COUP. Hillary Clinton and her operatives combined forces with Obama political operatives to try to make it happen, because it benefitted both of them.

 

[The Original Tree]

Trump's no criminal, as everybody knows. That's why only criminals will talk shit about him.
Who cares if he's *cleared* by the criminals or not? Not me. Let's go to war.

He surrounds himself with criminals to avoid culpability

You are talking about, Obama Bin Spying, correct?
Or maybe you are talking about Obama Bin Lying?

 

[LilOlLady]

Everyone lies, that's a fact of life that must be accepted as true and unchanging, even if it is unpleasant. Narcissists like Trump are often pathological liars and dangerous because they simply don't care about the truth or others. Mexico is going to pay for the wall?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

I never considered Stormy Daniels an impeachable offense. Campaign violation, but not impeachment worthy
Same goes for the stupid painting Trump made his charity buy at an inflated price

Republicans would impeach over something as trivial as a blow job ......Democrats have higher standards

You do know Bill impeachment was for lying under oath and not the actual blow job in the oval office...

If they can get the Glorious Trump to lie under oath then impeach him like the GOP did to his buddy in the 1990's...

Still lying about a blow job. Worthy of congressional censure but not impeachable

Dems will hold Trump to a higher standard

Democrats and Republicans have no standards...