POLL: Trump vs. Putin

How will the Putin/Trump meeting go?

  • Putin will put Trump on the defensive and play him like a toy fiddle.

    Votes: 9 30.0%
  • Trump will rise to the occasion and be brilliant.

    Votes: 10 33.3%
  • It will essentially be a draw.

    Votes: 5 16.7%
  • Mango. Obviously.

    Votes: 6 20.0%

  • Total voters
    30
and i'm wondering when mrobamas Russian sanctions will be lifted and when the Compounds on USA Soil where the Russians were evicted will be returned to Russia .
 
Putin may be a cruel dictator, but he's highly intelligent. Putin knows all he needs to do is stroke Trump's ego and he'll have him in the palm of his hands.

The Saudia did the same with Trump, they threw him a dance party and praised him, and they convinced him it was the other guys funding terrorism and not them.
 
Unlike Putin meeting with obama, the meeting with Trump will be a meeting between equals.

One of the things that was noted is that Putin looked down when he shook hands with Trump. This was NOT a sign of submission or that Putin was unwilling to meet eye to eye. He was NOT going to be seen looking up at the President who towered above the Russian leader.
 
its pretty funny , i figured that the lefty dems would be all over this thread but very few are too be found and the few that show up are pretty lame and quiet , i think its funny . -------------- just an observation .
 
Did Trump push his way pass any small countries that no one ever heard of?
 
Putin will praise him incessantly and Trump will spill out all our secret nuclear capabilities in response.
Putin has over 20 years experience in International diplomacy. He speaks fluent German, English as well as Russian. He also speaks some French and Arabic languages. He is a trained lawyer with a doctorate in economics, a workaholic, and a student of history including US history. He is regarded as a shrewd political tactician and the strongest leader Russia has had since Stalin. He also has a net worth of at least 40 billion dollars and may be the richest man in the world which is quite an accomplishment for a boy born into poverty. To say he outclasses Trump is an understatement.
 
Well, here we go: Former head of the KGB, master manipulator Putin and President Donald Trump will meet face to face. What is your expectation?

How Ex-Spies Think Putin Will Sucker ‘Sociopathic Narcissist’ Trump
It is their first meeting. Neither is 'going for a win', but just to get an initial impression of the other and feel them out for confirmation of various intell, mostly to see which sources give a better more reliable evaluation.


Honestly, I am amazed how many people are getting suckered into this Pro Wrestling Storyline regarding the meeting of world leaders.
 
Well, here we go: Former head of the KGB, master manipulator Putin and President Donald Trump will meet face to face. What is your expectation? How Ex-Spies Think Putin Will Sucker ‘Sociopathic Narcissist’ Trump
It is their first meeting. Neither is 'going for a win', but just to get an initial impression of the other and feel them out for confirmation of various intell, mostly to see which sources give a better more reliable evaluation. Honestly, I am amazed how many people are getting suckered into this Pro Wrestling Storyline regarding the meeting of world leaders.
Well, since the political environment in this country has devolved into nothing more than Pro Wrestling for political geeks, I think yours is a pretty fair statement.
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Putin will praise him incessantly and Trump will spill out all our secret nuclear capabilities in response.
Putin has over 20 years experience in International diplomacy. He speaks fluent German, English as well as Russian. He also speaks some French and Arabic languages. He is a trained lawyer with a doctorate in economics, a workaholic, and a student of history including US history. He is regarded as a shrewd political tactician and the strongest leader Russia has had since Stalin. He also has a net worth of at least 40 billion dollars and may be the richest man in the world which is quite an accomplishment for a boy born into poverty. To say he outclasses Trump is an understatement.

It is easy to be a billionaire when no one enforces the laws against you when you engage in insider trading, or even simple theft.

Patriots' Robert Kraft: Vladimir Putin stole my Super Bowl ring
In Mother Russia, stealing Super Bowl rings is sign of a good president.

Back in 2005 Patriots owner Robert Kraft was in Russia when a funny thing happened: Russian president Vladimir Putin stole his $25,000 Super Bowl XXXIX ring. Actually for the past eight years, Kraft had let everyone believe he gave the ring to Putin as a gift, but the truth came out this week: Putin stole it -- or took it without asking if 'stole' is too strong of a word for you.

"I took out the ring and showed it to [Putin], and he put it on and he goes, 'I can kill someone with this ring,'" Kraft said at an event this week, via the New York Post. "I put my hand out and he put it in his pocket, and three KGB guys got around him and walked out."


Kraft might have helped America dodge World War III because instead of going after the ring, Kraft let Putin keep it -- at the insistence of the White House. Yes, someone at the White House called Kraft and insisted he let Putin keep the ring.

"It would really be in the best interest of US-Soviet relations if you meant to give the ring as a present," Kraft said he was told on the White House call. "I really didn't [want to]. I had an emotional tie to the ring, it has my name on it. I don't want to see it on eBay. There was a pause on the other end of the line, and the voice repeated, 'It would really be in the best interest if you meant to give the ring as a present.'"

Like any true Patriot, Kraft did what was best for his country and in this case that meant pretending that the Russian president didn't steal his Super Bowl ring.
Gawd danged George W Bush covering for his Russian mafia pals.
 
Well, since the political environment in this country has devolved into nothing more than Pro Wrestling for political geeks, I think yours is a pretty fair statement.
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But my friend the key question here is WHO BENEFITS from our public's ignorance?

And why have we stopped asking such basic questions?
 
Well, since the political environment in this country has devolved into nothing more than Pro Wrestling for political geeks, I think yours is a pretty fair statement.
But my friend the key question here is WHO BENEFITS from our public's ignorance? And why have we stopped asking such basic questions?
Well, since I firmly believe that most of our problems are cultural at their foundation, I would start there.

Look at us, the Selfie Generation. Narcissistic, hypersensitive, intolerant, Safe Spaces, worried more about where Kim Kardashian buys her shoes than the current geopolitical climate or economics.

We've allowed our priorities to go completely off the rails, and this is what that looks like.
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Well, since I firmly believe that most of our problems are cultural at their foundation, I would start there.

Look at us, the Selfie Generation. Narcissistic, hypersensitive, intolerant, Safe Spaces, worried more about where Kim Kardashian buys her shoes than the current geopolitical climate or economics.

We've allowed our priorities to go completely off the rails, and this is what that looks like.
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This nation no longer consists of a single culture and to the degree that this contributes to our division and confusion, I agree with you.

But the problem exists within the 'popular culture' primarily and that is not the majority culture, not at all, but merely a plurality.

We will survive and thrive, but there must be a winnowing first, as the popular culture collapses and a new secular cultural leadership emerges over the next two decades to replace the current ignorant and self destructive leaders that do not deserve their position in our society.

The collapse of our popular culture is going to be both economic and demographic and we are well into the latter and beginning the former.

By 2040 it will be mostly sorted out and I think you will enjoy what emerges.
 
Well, since I firmly believe that most of our problems are cultural at their foundation, I would start there.

Look at us, the Selfie Generation. Narcissistic, hypersensitive, intolerant, Safe Spaces, worried more about where Kim Kardashian buys her shoes than the current geopolitical climate or economics.

We've allowed our priorities to go completely off the rails, and this is what that looks like.
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This nation no longer consists of a single culture and to the degree that this contributes to our division and confusion, I agree with you.

But the problem exists within the 'popular culture' primarily and that is not the majority culture, not at all, but merely a plurality.

We will survive and thrive, but there must be a winnowing first, as the popular culture collapses and a new secular cultural leadership emerges over the next two decades to replace the current ignorant and self destructive leaders that do not deserve their position in our society.

The collapse of our popular culture is going to be both economic and demographic and we are well into the latter and beginning the former.

By 2040 it will be mostly sorted out and I think you will enjoy what emerges.
Holy shit, I hope you're right. What I don't see is a driving force that can bring this current culture down. Obviously something could rise up, I just can't see it.

When a culture is being split from within, into angry & competing grievance groups/micro-cultures at virtually level, yikes - something pretty powerful would need to happen.
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