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A car is going to move forward when coasting down a hil but if you push the gas or break you are going to effect the speed of the progression.When it comes down to it reduction of pollution and respect for our environment is all we can really do. It doesn't matter if there is a link between mans actions and climate change. We should all be able to agree that the cleaner we live the better for all.trying to understand what is really behind the left's obsession with "man made climate change".
If its reducing man made pollution, I am all in with them. So are 99% of the people of planet earth.
If its an unproven link between pollution and climate, its bunk and not necessary----- if the goal is reducing pollution
If its controlling human activity, which I believe it is, then they can stick it where the sun never shines.
Liberals seem to think that they know how the rest of us should live and want to force us to live as they dictate, where to set our thermostats, what kind of light bulbs, what kind of cars, what kind of food, how our power is generated, where we can travel, and what we must believe---------------because they have all the answers and they are always right.
Listen libs, pollution is bad, everyone wants to stop pollution. You don't need a fake link between pollution and climate to make the case for stopping pollution. Soooooooooo, your real issue has to be control of the actions of others.
Comments?
Now yes, there are wingnuts on the left that point to doomsday and want too much government control/regulations over our daily lives... and there are rightwing nuts that focus on discrediting all environmental discussion because they don't really give a shit what they do as long as they can make a buck. I believe the majority of people fall in the middle. They don't want big business and our government destroying our habitat, they support development of clean energy methods, they support infrastructure that keeps our water and air clean, and they support better education about environmental issues.
It would be great to have a constructive discussion about the best ways to move forward without the voices of the wingnuts taking over.
I am sorry it is not wing nuts as you describe it...
Every major Scientific Organisation and even the major global Oil Companies(Exxon, Shell,...) now admit that man made climate change is real. There is only a handful of scientists who are paid off or relying on unverified or false data... Some of the people who have tried and defend to sceptic view don't even know the difference between Climate and Weather...
wrong, wrong, wrong. What they all agree on is that man made pollution is real. The link between pollution and climate is based on THEORIES AND ASSUMPTIONS.
climate has been changing for hundreds of millions of years and will be changing hundreds of millions of years after the last human lives on earth. Man has never had anything to do with it. Even if there was a nuclear war, the impact on climate would be temporary in terms of the life of our planet.
It baffles me how people like you can't understand and how you can adamantly deny the effects that mans increasing and decreasing elements that effect the homeostasis of our planet, has on our climate
its simple, because the affects of human activity are tiny, almost immeasurable, compared to the affects caused by sun spot activity and the earth's wobble on its axis.
its simple, because the affects of human activity are tiny, almost immeasurable, compared to the affects caused by sun spot activity and the earth's wobble on its axis.
From someone who actually cares, if you want to make the "skeptic" argument, get a clue.
You are fucking lost.
The "solar cycle" stuff was put out by the FRAUD so that idiots like you would parrot it, only to be discredited easily when needed.
Try to THINK about this...
In the past million years, Greenland froze while North America thawed. Did sun spots or axis wobble do that?
NO
So please STFU and don't make any science arguments because you are LOST and hurting the cause with your bs.
Simple question... Is the rate of warming and cooling the same as it was Millions of years ago?A car is going to move forward when coasting down a hil but if you push the gas or break you are going to effect the speed of the progression.When it comes down to it reduction of pollution and respect for our environment is all we can really do. It doesn't matter if there is a link between mans actions and climate change. We should all be able to agree that the cleaner we live the better for all.trying to understand what is really behind the left's obsession with "man made climate change".
If its reducing man made pollution, I am all in with them. So are 99% of the people of planet earth.
If its an unproven link between pollution and climate, its bunk and not necessary----- if the goal is reducing pollution
If its controlling human activity, which I believe it is, then they can stick it where the sun never shines.
Liberals seem to think that they know how the rest of us should live and want to force us to live as they dictate, where to set our thermostats, what kind of light bulbs, what kind of cars, what kind of food, how our power is generated, where we can travel, and what we must believe---------------because they have all the answers and they are always right.
Listen libs, pollution is bad, everyone wants to stop pollution. You don't need a fake link between pollution and climate to make the case for stopping pollution. Soooooooooo, your real issue has to be control of the actions of others.
Comments?
Now yes, there are wingnuts on the left that point to doomsday and want too much government control/regulations over our daily lives... and there are rightwing nuts that focus on discrediting all environmental discussion because they don't really give a shit what they do as long as they can make a buck. I believe the majority of people fall in the middle. They don't want big business and our government destroying our habitat, they support development of clean energy methods, they support infrastructure that keeps our water and air clean, and they support better education about environmental issues.
It would be great to have a constructive discussion about the best ways to move forward without the voices of the wingnuts taking over.
I am sorry it is not wing nuts as you describe it...
Every major Scientific Organisation and even the major global Oil Companies(Exxon, Shell,...) now admit that man made climate change is real. There is only a handful of scientists who are paid off or relying on unverified or false data... Some of the people who have tried and defend to sceptic view don't even know the difference between Climate and Weather...
wrong, wrong, wrong. What they all agree on is that man made pollution is real. The link between pollution and climate is based on THEORIES AND ASSUMPTIONS.
climate has been changing for hundreds of millions of years and will be changing hundreds of millions of years after the last human lives on earth. Man has never had anything to do with it. Even if there was a nuclear war, the impact on climate would be temporary in terms of the life of our planet.
It baffles me how people like you can't understand and how you can adamantly deny the effects that mans increasing and decreasing elements that effect the homeostasis of our planet, has on our climate
its simple, because the affects of human activity are tiny, almost immeasurable, compared to the affects caused by sun spot activity and the earth's wobble on its axis.
you give man way too much credit. But if man is doing it, how do you explain the warming and cooling that occurred millions of years ago before there were any humans on earth?
then what did cause it?
Is the rate of warming and cooling the same as it was Million of years ago?
Simple question... Is the rate of warming and cooling the same as it was Million of years ago?A car is going to move forward when coasting down a hil but if you push the gas or break you are going to effect the speed of the progression.When it comes down to it reduction of pollution and respect for our environment is all we can really do. It doesn't matter if there is a link between mans actions and climate change. We should all be able to agree that the cleaner we live the better for all.
Now yes, there are wingnuts on the left that point to doomsday and want too much government control/regulations over our daily lives... and there are rightwing nuts that focus on discrediting all environmental discussion because they don't really give a shit what they do as long as they can make a buck. I believe the majority of people fall in the middle. They don't want big business and our government destroying our habitat, they support development of clean energy methods, they support infrastructure that keeps our water and air clean, and they support better education about environmental issues.
It would be great to have a constructive discussion about the best ways to move forward without the voices of the wingnuts taking over.
I am sorry it is not wing nuts as you describe it...
Every major Scientific Organisation and even the major global Oil Companies(Exxon, Shell,...) now admit that man made climate change is real. There is only a handful of scientists who are paid off or relying on unverified or false data... Some of the people who have tried and defend to sceptic view don't even know the difference between Climate and Weather...
wrong, wrong, wrong. What they all agree on is that man made pollution is real. The link between pollution and climate is based on THEORIES AND ASSUMPTIONS.
climate has been changing for hundreds of millions of years and will be changing hundreds of millions of years after the last human lives on earth. Man has never had anything to do with it. Even if there was a nuclear war, the impact on climate would be temporary in terms of the life of our planet.
It baffles me how people like you can't understand and how you can adamantly deny the effects that mans increasing and decreasing elements that effect the homeostasis of our planet, has on our climate
its simple, because the affects of human activity are tiny, almost immeasurable, compared to the affects caused by sun spot activity and the earth's wobble on its axis.
you give man way too much credit. But if man is doing it, how do you explain the warming and cooling that occurred millions of years ago before there were any humans on earth?
then what did cause it?
Greenland's plate moving NW, NA's plate moving SW... actually the same vector on a sphere.
Please stop using "solar cycle" and axis wobble. They do not explain the data. The movement of the plates does...
How does todays rate compare to the rates of the past?Simple question... Is the rate of warming and cooling the same as it was Million of years ago?A car is going to move forward when coasting down a hil but if you push the gas or break you are going to effect the speed of the progression.I am sorry it is not wing nuts as you describe it...
Every major Scientific Organisation and even the major global Oil Companies(Exxon, Shell,...) now admit that man made climate change is real. There is only a handful of scientists who are paid off or relying on unverified or false data... Some of the people who have tried and defend to sceptic view don't even know the difference between Climate and Weather...
wrong, wrong, wrong. What they all agree on is that man made pollution is real. The link between pollution and climate is based on THEORIES AND ASSUMPTIONS.
climate has been changing for hundreds of millions of years and will be changing hundreds of millions of years after the last human lives on earth. Man has never had anything to do with it. Even if there was a nuclear war, the impact on climate would be temporary in terms of the life of our planet.
It baffles me how people like you can't understand and how you can adamantly deny the effects that mans increasing and decreasing elements that effect the homeostasis of our planet, has on our climate
its simple, because the affects of human activity are tiny, almost immeasurable, compared to the affects caused by sun spot activity and the earth's wobble on its axis.
you give man way too much credit. But if man is doing it, how do you explain the warming and cooling that occurred millions of years ago before there were any humans on earth?
the rate has varied over time, sometimes faster, sometimes slower.
But once again, is your goal to reduce man made pollution? or is it something else?
"“Even though Antarctic sea ice reached a new record maximum this past September,"
continental shift is one factor, it is not the only factor
This is hilarious.
Why, Boo, is Antarctic sea ice INCREASING???
LOL. So something that is 0.039 percent of something else cannot affect that something else? I suggest you test that out with 0.039% of your body weight in potassium cyanide.You are a liar. One of the orange clown's first moves was to sign an EO letting the coal companies pollute our watersheds and air.trying to understand what is really behind the left's obsession with "man made climate change".
If its reducing man made pollution, I am all in with them. So are 99% of the people of planet earth.
If its an unproven link between pollution and climate, its bunk and not necessary----- if the goal is reducing pollution
If its controlling human activity, which I believe it is, then they can stick it where the sun never shines.
Liberals seem to think that they know how the rest of us should live and want to force us to live as they dictate, where to set our thermostats, what kind of light bulbs, what kind of cars, what kind of food, how our power is generated, where we can travel, and what we must believe---------------because they have all the answers and they are always right.
Listen libs, pollution is bad, everyone wants to stop pollution. You don't need a fake link between pollution and climate to make the case for stopping pollution. Soooooooooo, your real issue has to be control of the actions of others.
Comments?
The link between the changing climate and GHGs has been known for a long time. Here, actually read what real scientists have to say;
The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect
CO2 makes up .039% of the atmosphere, .039%. think about that.
it was virtually the same % as far back as we can determine using scientific methods, ice cores, etc. Without CO2 there would be no plant life on earth, and with no plant life there would be no animal life.
CO2 is not a pollutant. never was, never will be.
focus on reducing pollution, you don't need to create a fake link between pollution and climate in order to reduce pollution---------------IF, and only if, your real goal is to reduce pollution--------------is it?
LOL. So something that is 0.039 percent of something else cannot affect that something else? I suggest you test that out with 0.039% of your body weight in potassium cyanide.You are a liar. One of the orange clown's first moves was to sign an EO letting the coal companies pollute our watersheds and air.trying to understand what is really behind the left's obsession with "man made climate change".
If its reducing man made pollution, I am all in with them. So are 99% of the people of planet earth.
If its an unproven link between pollution and climate, its bunk and not necessary----- if the goal is reducing pollution
If its controlling human activity, which I believe it is, then they can stick it where the sun never shines.
Liberals seem to think that they know how the rest of us should live and want to force us to live as they dictate, where to set our thermostats, what kind of light bulbs, what kind of cars, what kind of food, how our power is generated, where we can travel, and what we must believe---------------because they have all the answers and they are always right.
Listen libs, pollution is bad, everyone wants to stop pollution. You don't need a fake link between pollution and climate to make the case for stopping pollution. Soooooooooo, your real issue has to be control of the actions of others.
Comments?
The link between the changing climate and GHGs has been known for a long time. Here, actually read what real scientists have to say;
The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect
CO2 makes up .039% of the atmosphere, .039%. think about that.
it was virtually the same % as far back as we can determine using scientific methods, ice cores, etc. Without CO2 there would be no plant life on earth, and with no plant life there would be no animal life.
CO2 is not a pollutant. never was, never will be.
focus on reducing pollution, you don't need to create a fake link between pollution and climate in order to reduce pollution---------------IF, and only if, your real goal is to reduce pollution--------------is it?
continental shift is one factor, it is not the only factor
Name one other than plate movement that caused NA to thaw and Greenland to freeze at the same time....
You got your study by a Yale professor in 2005 and I got NASA. One of them is wrong. I'm gonna go with the guys that put a man on the moonWe did test it. And your side didn't like the data very much, so it FUDGED it...
Key claim against global warming evaporates
"While surface thermometers have clearly shown that the Earth's surface is warming, satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling.
Scientists were left with two choices: either the atmosphere wasn't warming up, or something was wrong with the data."
HHHHMMMM, given their taxpayer funded "jobs" were on the line, would they choose to accept two highly correlated data sets as is, or FUDGE them both with UNCORRELATED "corrections...?"
