CrusaderFrank
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Biden did the country a big service by publicly admitting how DC really works especially highlighting why "Public servants" stay on for decades and leave worth tens of millions.
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The same liars that lied when they said there was Trump Russian Collusion when no evidence ever existed now lie about some vague quid pro quo that isn't in the transcript and Ukraine denies exists.
The only abuse of power/corruption in "Ukrainegate" begins and ends with Biden and Obama.
If you want a President who works FOR America and FOR Americans vote for Trump. If you want a President who works FOR increasing your taxes, reducing your rights and increasing the number of illegal immigrants, then vote Democrat.
That was easy, I have 15 seconds to spare.
That's not a very convincing elevator speech.The only abuse of power/corruption in "Ukrainegate" begins and ends with Biden and Obama.
If you want a President who works FOR America and FOR Americans vote for Trump. If you want a President who works FOR increasing your taxes, reducing your rights and increasing the number of illegal immigrants, then vote Democrat.
That was easy, I have 15 seconds to spare.
LOL I just love that you think that Trump works for anything or anybody other than himself- and his family.
Oooooh, I found a good one, thanks to .... OMG I can't remember who I just stole this from. In the five minutes it took me to hunt down this thread, I've forgotten. Well, anyway....We've all made up our minds about Trump and the quid pro quo allegation. All we are doing now is spitting and clawing at each other. Pointless.
Maybe most of middle America hasn't made up their minds, but we here on USMB are fanatics about politics, so we're all locked in.
I thought we should all maybe collect our thoughts and provide a 30-second elevator speech to present our case.
Just imagine you are in an elevator with Mr. and Mrs. Middle America, and they haven't made up their minds yet. What would you tell them?
You can be funny. You can be nasty. You can be serene. You can be hyperbolic.
But keep it to 30 seconds.
Mine is in the next post.
The long and the short is that Giuliani and Trump were hand fed a pile of lies by a corrupt prosecutor general looking for a patron as he was about to be fired from his job by an incoming honest reformer.
It is known throughout the world our president has a predilection for believing really outlandish things. Lutsenko saw this and played Trump like a bandura.
Trump is desperate to believe any conspiracy theory which feeds into his desire to disavow the fact Russia helped him get elected, and so Lutsenko ran with that.
All along the way, sane people tried to stop Trump from his own stupidity, but Giuliani is the only person Trump listens to, and Rudy sabotaged all of them every step of the way.
The long and the short is that Giuliani and Trump were hand fed a pile of lies by a corrupt prosecutor general looking for a patron as he was about to be fired from his job by an incoming honest reformer.
It is known throughout the world our president has a predilection for believing really outlandish things. Lutsenko saw this and played Trump like a bandura.
Trump is desperate to believe any conspiracy theory which feeds into his desire to disavow the fact Russia helped him get elected, and so Lutsenko ran with that.
All along the way, sane people tried to stop Trump from his own stupidity, but Giuliani is the only person Trump listens to, and Rudy sabotaged all of them every step of the way.
Since the claims about quid pro quo are lies, there are no grounds for impeachment now.Let me help you out with what is needed for impeachment:
1. The president knew about people breaking in to and stealing from the offices of political opponents, and then covered it up OR
2. The president had a sexual liaison with a very young White House INTERN and then lied about it
All of your stuff is weeds, weeds, weeds. That your own people cannot see it will be their downfall. You enjoy that. I know I will
Oooooh, I found a good one, thanks to .... OMG I can't remember who I just stole this from. In the five minutes it took me to hunt down this thread, I've forgotten. Well, anyway....We've all made up our minds about Trump and the quid pro quo allegation. All we are doing now is spitting and clawing at each other. Pointless.
Maybe most of middle America hasn't made up their minds, but we here on USMB are fanatics about politics, so we're all locked in.
I thought we should all maybe collect our thoughts and provide a 30-second elevator speech to present our case.
Just imagine you are in an elevator with Mr. and Mrs. Middle America, and they haven't made up their minds yet. What would you tell them?
You can be funny. You can be nasty. You can be serene. You can be hyperbolic.
But keep it to 30 seconds.
Mine is in the next post.
And your blather changes nothing He made the call, we know what he said, and the dumb fuck admitted it.
Since the claims about quid pro quo are lies, there are no grounds for impeachment now.Let me help you out with what is needed for impeachment:
1. The president knew about people breaking in to and stealing from the offices of political opponents, and then covered it up OR
2. The president had a sexual liaison with a very young White House INTERN and then lied about it
All of your stuff is weeds, weeds, weeds. That your own people cannot see it will be their downfall. You enjoy that. I know I will
You have not seen any evidence of quid pro quo because you have not read the testimony transcripts.I have yet to see any evidence of quid pro quo. If any evidence does appear, it's likely that Rudy went rogue and took action without Trump's approval.