Power the U.S. With Solar Panels!

[Toddsterpatriot]

Exactly.

Yup. You repeated your claim again.
I refuted it, again.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The effects of Climate Change on the earth

Can I see the math that backs your claims up? ... we've been using T^4=(S(1-a))/4eo ... obviously you're not ... so what are you using? ... LOL you azzhole. :^) Tommy is the one with the number "285." (and You TWO talking about local Weather no less) I posted the heavily footnoted Wikipedia...

www.usmessageboard.com

Good times.

You like repeating your humiliation.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

See post #918

#918 doesn't refute conservation of energy.
Try again?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Which has been thoroughly debunked.

When was the heat island effect debunked?

 

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When was the heat island effect debunked?

Why was it 2C cooler during the daytime at solar farms again? Magic?

 

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#918 doesn't refute conservation of energy.
Try again?

Didn’t say it did. It’s an incremental analysis, dummy.

 

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You like repeating your humiliation.

What did he tell you to do again? Stuff it? So funny.

 

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You like repeating your humiliation.

You must have been humiliated because you shut up after he told you to stuff it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why was it 2C cooler during the daytime at solar farms again? Magic?

Moving heat from one spot to another isn't cooling the Earth.

You understand that, right?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You must have been humiliated because you shut up after he told you to stuff it.

If that makes you feel better, run with it.

 

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Moving heat from one spot to another isn't cooling the Earth.

You understand that, right?

It is when the waste heat from electricity usage is the same as it was before solar, dummy.

 

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If that makes you feel better, run with it.

He put you in check. It was hilarious.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It is when the waste heat from electricity usage is the same as it was before solar, dummy.

You should make that argument instead.
You'd sound less stupid.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

He put you in check. It was hilarious.

If that makes you feel better, run with it.

Meanwhile, keep claiming that moving 100 watts from one spot to another cools the Earth.

Bacause that's hilarious.

 

[alang1216]

Having smaller coal and natural gas powerplants sounds like a win to me.

More expensive coal and nat gas plants to cover your unreliable solar.

Sounds like we're paying more for your free solar, not less.

How do smaller powerplants equate to being more expensive?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How do smaller powerplants equate to being more expensive?

You've never heard of economies of scale?

 

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If that makes you feel better, run with it.

Meanwhile, keep claiming that moving 100 watts from one spot to another cools the Earth.

Bacause that's hilarious.

Post #918 makes it less funny. It's called an incremental analysis.

There's approximately 18tWh of continuous waste heat from electricity in the world. Hardly any of it comes from solar. So as we replace other generating forms - which don't convert solar radiation into electricity - with solar which does convert solar radiation into electricity there will be an incremental increase in solar radiation that does not warm the surface of the planet but the waste heat won't change. So the decrease in solar radiation warming the surface of the planet won't be offset by an increase in waste heat from electricity use. I know this is a hard concept for you to understand not being good with math and all but it's just math.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Post #918 makes it less funny. It's called an incremental analysis.

There's approximately 18tWh of continuous waste heat from electricity in the world. Hardly any of it comes from solar. So as we replace other generating forms - which don't convert solar radiation into electricity - with solar which does convert solar radiation into electricity there will be an incremental increase in solar radiation that does not warm the surface of the planet but the waste heat won't change. I know this is a hard concept for you to understand not being good with math and all but it's just math.

If you want to claim we need to keep burning fossil fuels, so the waste heat can stop the glaciers from advancing, do that.

with solar which does convert solar radiation into electricity there will be an incremental increase in solar radiation that does not warm the surface of the planet

Running solar radiation thru a solar panel doesn't cool the planet compared to letting that radiation hit the surface. In fact, due to their lower albedo, panels warm the planet.

Claiming they cool the planet is stupid.

 

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You've never heard of economies of scale?

What the difference in efficiency between a power block of less than 500 MW compared to a power blocks larger than 1,000 MW?

And what's the difference in per-unit capital and expense costs between large and small power blocks?

 

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If you want to claim we need to keep burning fossil fuels, so the waste heat can stop the glaciers from advancing, do that.

with solar which does convert solar radiation into electricity there will be an incremental increase in solar radiation that does not warm the surface of the planet

Running solar radiation thru a solar panel doesn't cool the planet compared to letting that radiation hit the surface. In fact, due to their lower albedo, panels warm the planet.

Claiming they cool the planet is stupid.

Other than your statement that solar converts solar radiation into electricity and that there will be an incremental increase in solar radiation that does not warm the surface of the planet everything else was wrong.

The cooling effect was measured by satellites.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356860141_Direct_impact_of_solar_farm_deployment_on_surface_longwave_radiation