Pres. Biden wants $15/hr min wage; Thanks but NOW its not enough

[Norman]

OP can't get over 15 because he is a loser.

Yet wants to tell others how to live. Typical demoncrat.

 

[Lesh]

Dude. Give it up. You already admitted that getting rid of employees you fucked up in hiring in the first place is your job.

If you were more careful about who you hired and then treated (and paid) them well...you wouldn't have a job yourself

Not true. While I've never had the experience hiring people, I do have to do research on potential tenants when they apply. You can check somebody up and down and still end up with a crappy tenant. I've rented to what most would consider the perfect tenant and they ended up being assholes costing me money, and I've rented to people who were in bankruptcy and ended up being my best and longest residing tenants. There is no criteria that guarantees a perfect tenant, just like there is no criteria that will guarantee an employer a good worker. It's really instinct.

Employers like landlords are legally limited to what they can tell another employer or landlord about the applicant, so you really don't find out much when it comes to references.

You're spot on about what former employers can tell someone checking references. Companies run scared of "wrongful termination" lawsuits these days! Generally speaking the worst thing you'll hear from a former employer is that the employee would NOT be eligible for rehire! That says it all.

Why is it that you are so fixated on firing people?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Mandated higher wages will only increase the cost of goods or services produced in the long run, offsetting any true value gain while placating liberal economic-illiterates.

It does more than that. It causes inflation. It causes more companies to move overseas. It causes more companies to see automation as a more attractive investment. It causes job losses.

They don't understand why McDonald's has kisoks and lack of cashiers at Walmart

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Again...MW has been increased many times over the years and it never results in the job losses you people claim.

The fact that you use the pejorative "Dims" tells us that your objectivity id questionable...at best

More Seattle restaurants close doors as $15 minimum wage approaches - Shift Washington

Seattle’s $15 minimum wage law goes into effect on April 1, 2015. As that date approaches, restaurants across the city are making the financial decision to close shop. The Washington Policy Center writes that “closings have occurred across the city, from Grub in the upscale Queen Anne Hill...

shiftwa.org

Fight For $15 Meets Reality: D.C. Restaurants Lost 1,400 Jobs During First Half of 2016

In a shocking twist, D.C. is not exempt to the basic laws of economics.

reason.com

Hike in minimum wage prompts more closings of San Francisco restaurants

San Francisco's higher minimum wage is causing an increasing number of restaurants to go out of business even before it is fully phased in, a new study by the Harvard Business School found.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Not just Seattle. NYC feeling the heat from minimum wage hikes

hotair.com

 

[Eric Stratton]

Dude. Give it up. You already admitted that getting rid of employees you fucked up in hiring in the first place is your job.

If you were more careful about who you hired and then treated (and paid) them well...you wouldn't have a job yourself

Not true. While I've never had the experience hiring people, I do have to do research on potential tenants when they apply. You can check somebody up and down and still end up with a crappy tenant. I've rented to what most would consider the perfect tenant and they ended up being assholes costing me money, and I've rented to people who were in bankruptcy and ended up being my best and longest residing tenants. There is no criteria that guarantees a perfect tenant, just like there is no criteria that will guarantee an employer a good worker. It's really instinct.

Employers like landlords are legally limited to what they can tell another employer or landlord about the applicant, so you really don't find out much when it comes to references.

You're spot on about what former employers can tell someone checking references. Companies run scared of "wrongful termination" lawsuits these days! Generally speaking the worst thing you'll hear from a former employer is that the employee would NOT be eligible for rehire! That says it all.

Why is it that you are so fixated on firing people?

Why can't you admit you don't know anything about hiring, firing or managing people?

 

[Oldestyle]

Don't have a valid response to a simple query...do you, Lesh?

I have suggested that you use actual numbers in your "simple query" what...5-10 times now?

Why is it that you aren't able to do that?

What MW increase are you referring to? Because you know I will find a comparable one that didn't result in what you predict?

Oh....

You're the one claiming that a large national minimum wage increase won't affect jobs. I'm simply asking what you base that claim on?

 

[Uncensored2008]

If you want to eliminate jobs, this will do it.

Said every time there is a MW increase and it never happens

As a CPA for over 44 years, I respectfully disagree. Paying an employee $15.00 is only going to increase payroll costs and related payroll taxes. At a time when the economy is being held back by Dim governors and mayors, business owners can not afford it and will cut back on personnel. I've seen it many, many times in the real world. The textbook world of liberal stooges is fantasy.

Again...MW has been increased many times over the years and it never results in the job losses you people claim.

The fact that you use the pejorative "Dims" tells us that your objectivity id questionable...at best

Ah Leech, making shit up again without bothering to check the facts.

 

[Orangecat]

This entire issue is pushed by virtue signaling liberal busybodies and economic illiterates.

 

[Eric Stratton]

Dude. Give it up. You already admitted that getting rid of employees you fucked up in hiring in the first place is your job.

If you were more careful about who you hired and then treated (and paid) them well...you wouldn't have a job yourself

Not true. While I've never had the experience hiring people, I do have to do research on potential tenants when they apply. You can check somebody up and down and still end up with a crappy tenant. I've rented to what most would consider the perfect tenant and they ended up being assholes costing me money, and I've rented to people who were in bankruptcy and ended up being my best and longest residing tenants. There is no criteria that guarantees a perfect tenant, just like there is no criteria that will guarantee an employer a good worker. It's really instinct.

Employers like landlords are legally limited to what they can tell another employer or landlord about the applicant, so you really don't find out much when it comes to references.

You're spot on about what former employers can tell someone checking references. Companies run scared of "wrongful termination" lawsuits these days! Generally speaking the worst thing you'll hear from a former employer is that the employee would NOT be eligible for rehire! That says it all.

Why is it that you are so fixated on firing people?

What do you do exactly... for an income?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They don't understand why McDonald's has kisoks and lack of cashiers at Walmart

Three years ago when I went to see my doctor, I walked up to the counter I always went to and met with lights off and nobody behind the desk. A woman approached me from behind and escorted me to their new kiosks. I told her I had no idea they started using those and didn't bring my reading glasses. She took me to some other lady to check me in.

Elderly people got really pissed about it so now they brought back the people to check them in. You still have the choice to use the kiosks which I'm sure a lot of younger and middle-aged people use, but I just go to the counter because it keeps people working.

 

[progressive hunter]

Been reading that President Biden will make min wage $15/hour. Thanks Mr. President but that was enough in 2010. Not 2020. It needs to be $20/minimum. 40 hours/week after taxes thats like $2300 a month.

A 1 bedroom apt in my city is like $1200/month
Student loan payment $300
Power/cable/phone/water.....another $400
Car $200
(Already $2100 gone)

I could go on but as you can see it rapidly is gone and we havent even gotten to healthcare, food, clothing, recreation

Mr President.....$20 an hour is the minimum

sounds like you live outside your means,,,

 

[Oldestyle]

Dude. Give it up. You already admitted that getting rid of employees you fucked up in hiring in the first place is your job.

If you were more careful about who you hired and then treated (and paid) them well...you wouldn't have a job yourself

Not true. While I've never had the experience hiring people, I do have to do research on potential tenants when they apply. You can check somebody up and down and still end up with a crappy tenant. I've rented to what most would consider the perfect tenant and they ended up being assholes costing me money, and I've rented to people who were in bankruptcy and ended up being my best and longest residing tenants. There is no criteria that guarantees a perfect tenant, just like there is no criteria that will guarantee an employer a good worker. It's really instinct.

Employers like landlords are legally limited to what they can tell another employer or landlord about the applicant, so you really don't find out much when it comes to references.

You're spot on about what former employers can tell someone checking references. Companies run scared of "wrongful termination" lawsuits these days! Generally speaking the worst thing you'll hear from a former employer is that the employee would NOT be eligible for rehire! That says it all.

Why is it that you are so fixated on firing people?

Ah...because it's part of the job of a manager? When you manage people you have to fire some of them. It's unfortunate and the least favorite part of what I did but it IS part of the job! You'd know that if your "business" existed anywhere but in your head!

 

[BS Filter]

Seniors on Social Security need $2000 a month minimum wage.

 

[Eric Stratton]

Been reading that President Biden will make min wage $15/hour. Thanks Mr. President but that was enough in 2010. Not 2020. It needs to be $20/minimum. 40 hours/week after taxes thats like $2300 a month.

A 1 bedroom apt in my city is like $1200/month
Student loan payment $300
Power/cable/phone/water.....another $400
Car $200
(Already $2100 gone)

I could go on but as you can see it rapidly is gone and we havent even gotten to healthcare, food, clothing, recreation

Mr President.....$20 an hour is the minimum

sounds like you live outside your means,,,

I would submit that you should have gotten a business degree. Liberal arts jobs are notorously low-paying

 

[progressive hunter]

Been reading that President Biden will make min wage $15/hour. Thanks Mr. President but that was enough in 2010. Not 2020. It needs to be $20/minimum. 40 hours/week after taxes thats like $2300 a month.

A 1 bedroom apt in my city is like $1200/month
Student loan payment $300
Power/cable/phone/water.....another $400
Car $200
(Already $2100 gone)

I could go on but as you can see it rapidly is gone and we havent even gotten to healthcare, food, clothing, recreation

Mr President.....$20 an hour is the minimum

sounds like you live outside your means,,,

I would submit that you should have gotten a business degree. Liberal arts jobs are notorously low-paying

I got a construction degree from the school of hard knocks,,,

total cost was zero,,,

 

[Orangecat]

Why is it that you are so fixated on firing people?

A successful business fires poor workers and retains productive ones.

 

[Canon Shooter]

If the minimum wage has no negative impact... then why not make the minimum wage $200,000 a year?

If there is no negative impact, then let's all get CEO wages.

Of course that's ridiculous, and impossible. But at low end, for some stupid reason, people just think it magically has no impact.

...who are you erecting these false choices for and why are you addressing them to me?

I've never argued that minimum wage is downside free at any rate.

Here is a 2019 CBO study on effects of raising minimum wage, look it over and let me know what it is you don't think I understand:

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2019-07/CBO-55410-MinimumWage2019.pdf

You need to work the "quote" function better. I never said what you're saying I did...

 

[SmokeALib]

Been reading that President Biden will make min wage $15/hour. Thanks Mr. President but that was enough in 2010. Not 2020. It needs to be $20/minimum. 40 hours/week after taxes thats like $2300 a month.

A 1 bedroom apt in my city is like $1200/month
Student loan payment $300
Power/cable/phone/water.....another $400
Car $200
(Already $2100 gone)

I could go on but as you can see it rapidly is gone and we havent even gotten to healthcare, food, clothing, recreation

Mr President.....$20 an hour is the minimum

Flipping burgers is gonna make skilled trades obsolete.

 

[Eric Stratton]

Been reading that President Biden will make min wage $15/hour. Thanks Mr. President but that was enough in 2010. Not 2020. It needs to be $20/minimum. 40 hours/week after taxes thats like $2300 a month.

A 1 bedroom apt in my city is like $1200/month
Student loan payment $300
Power/cable/phone/water.....another $400
Car $200
(Already $2100 gone)

I could go on but as you can see it rapidly is gone and we havent even gotten to healthcare, food, clothing, recreation

Mr President.....$20 an hour is the minimum

sounds like you live outside your means,,,

I would submit that you should have gotten a business degree. Liberal arts jobs are notorously low-paying

I got a construction degree from the school of hard knocks,,,

total cost was zero,,,

Hard knocks is notoriously low-paying as well. But where I live a good construction worker can make $25 to $30 an hour easily. You got what you paid for it sounds like.

 

[progressive hunter]

Been reading that President Biden will make min wage $15/hour. Thanks Mr. President but that was enough in 2010. Not 2020. It needs to be $20/minimum. 40 hours/week after taxes thats like $2300 a month.

A 1 bedroom apt in my city is like $1200/month
Student loan payment $300
Power/cable/phone/water.....another $400
Car $200
(Already $2100 gone)

I could go on but as you can see it rapidly is gone and we havent even gotten to healthcare, food, clothing, recreation

Mr President.....$20 an hour is the minimum

sounds like you live outside your means,,,

I would submit that you should have gotten a business degree. Liberal arts jobs are notorously low-paying

I got a construction degree from the school of hard knocks,,,

total cost was zero,,,

Hard knocks is notoriously low-paying as well. But where I live a good construction worker can make $25 to $30 an hour easily

in fact they paid me for my education that is making me close to $100 an hr,,