President Trump announces new tariffs: 25% for steel, 10% for aluminum

[Correll]

So, you've picked fruit in the Florida or Texas heat for a couple of bucks an hour? Sure you did.

Washed dishes.
Cooked.
Janitor.
And only 2% of Ilegals pick fruits and veggies.
98% are babysitters, cleaning people and lawn keepers.
And what was your profession prior to suffering from PTSD?

I've done two of your three, also.

It is so repulsive the way the Left lies about the jobs illegals do.


And so insulting to the Americans who have or are doing those jobs, to say that Americans won't do them.

I’ll agree. A man used to be able to feed a family being a waiter. And guys could go make good money working at ford or gm. If those jobs don’t exist then I want the maids, landscapers and carpenters to get compensated fairly so Americans can feed their families.

I heard at the meijers they’re paying $15 hr. That’s pretty good

1. I never said I trusted corporations. YOu must have misunderstood what I said. Try reading just what I write and not making assumptions about hidden meanings.

2. I don't trust the government, because the government has demonstrated they are a tool of the Political Class that has nothing but contempt for me.


3. Trump's policies on Trade and Immigration have not yet been fully implemented. And yes, I wish he would move faster.

4. Supply and demand are real. If enough illegals are deported, and are not replaced by returning illegals or legal immigrants, and jobs, especially better jobs keep coming, wages should start to rise.


5. Push back was always going to occur. The question to ask, is why do you think that happened? Anti-tariff people claimed that deficits don't matter. It seems Europeans think they do matter.

The only thing that's gonna rise by pissing on immigration and punishing our allies is costs and interest rates. Watch. Huge deficits and inflation will happen very quickly because of these moronic trade wars. Trump doesn't care, he gets two key things he wants. He gets to act like a moronic bully and he already has the big tax bonanza for himself. Watch in the next 6 months what happens to interest rates and the deficit/national debt and costs to the working folks on goods we rely on. And unless you're independently wealthy, you'll feel it big time too.
And, to think that replacing low wage immigrants with Americans in jobs like harvesting etc is gonna happen is to demonstrate how little you know about economics even at a base level.

I will be watching. Will you? Or will you be just accepting as Gospel whatever spun crap the media hands you?

If I didn't have a mind of my own like you, I'd believe what the conman says but since I do have a mind of my own, I'll trust economists and they're talking inflation because of the tarrifs and other things like withdrawing from every trade agreement ever made and alientaing our staunch allies. And, as I see you've bought the whole fake news mantra from the most fake human on earth. You'll have to live with that moronic decision.

The economists said that the dislocation from "Free Trade" would be a temporary problem, and that workers would either easily retrain for new high tech jobs, or be rehired to the new and more competitive US manufacturers.


They have not admitted that they were wrong. They are still trying to sell the same bullshit that has not worked.


IN this case, the historian trumps the economist. Because we have recent history of those economists being wrong.


They don't get to cite their credentials and expect us to be impressed after the last 40 years.



You told me to watch. I said I would. And I will be.


You will not. YOur mind is made up and nicely closed. Standard for a modern lib.

Economists are paid to paint the circle around the arrow after the arrow's been shot.

That's a good one. I'll remember that one.

 

[Correll]

Gee, you did all that? Was this before or after you became a millionaire wizard of Wall St? LOL
As far as PTSD, I worked at V.A. I just retired last year and I've seen what that can do to veterans. For you to belittle their service is right in line with the asshole you are.
You never answered my question there Warren. What brokerage houses did you work at and in what capacity?

I make it a habit not to give personal information to someone such as yourself who presents as mentally disturbed.

When I've been unemployed I have worked for friends for $10 hr. Under the table of course. Mold removal was the worst job I had. And there were young Americans working for the guy I worked for.

Wicker thinks that Americans won't do those jobs.


A lot of lefties claim that.

Wicker is a flat out, emotionally and mentally disturbed masochistic altruist.

I must have struck a big nerve when I questioned your bullshit claim to be a Wall St whiz. Your silly rant just now contained many multi-syllabic words. You must be exhausted. Your support of Trump makes you an expert at supporting mentally disturbed people, so why don't you love me? Sniff sniff. Tell Warren I said Hi.

ONe sentence is not normally considered a rant.


Your post was garbage. HE is the one that struck a nerve, getting to you consider a one sentence post a "rant".

 

[Correll]

Washed dishes.
Cooked.
Janitor.
And only 2% of Ilegals pick fruits and veggies.
98% are babysitters, cleaning people and lawn keepers.
And what was your profession prior to suffering from PTSD?

I've done two of your three, also.

It is so repulsive the way the Left lies about the jobs illegals do.


And so insulting to the Americans who have or are doing those jobs, to say that Americans won't do them.

I’ll agree. A man used to be able to feed a family being a waiter. And guys could go make good money working at ford or gm. If those jobs don’t exist then I want the maids, landscapers and carpenters to get compensated fairly so Americans can feed their families.

I heard at the meijers they’re paying $15 hr. That’s pretty good

The only thing that's gonna rise by pissing on immigration and punishing our allies is costs and interest rates. Watch. Huge deficits and inflation will happen very quickly because of these moronic trade wars. Trump doesn't care, he gets two key things he wants. He gets to act like a moronic bully and he already has the big tax bonanza for himself. Watch in the next 6 months what happens to interest rates and the deficit/national debt and costs to the working folks on goods we rely on. And unless you're independently wealthy, you'll feel it big time too.
And, to think that replacing low wage immigrants with Americans in jobs like harvesting etc is gonna happen is to demonstrate how little you know about economics even at a base level.

I will be watching. Will you? Or will you be just accepting as Gospel whatever spun crap the media hands you?

If I didn't have a mind of my own like you, I'd believe what the conman says but since I do have a mind of my own, I'll trust economists and they're talking inflation because of the tarrifs and other things like withdrawing from every trade agreement ever made and alientaing our staunch allies. And, as I see you've bought the whole fake news mantra from the most fake human on earth. You'll have to live with that moronic decision.

The economists said that the dislocation from "Free Trade" would be a temporary problem, and that workers would either easily retrain for new high tech jobs, or be rehired to the new and more competitive US manufacturers.


They have not admitted that they were wrong. They are still trying to sell the same bullshit that has not worked.


IN this case, the historian trumps the economist. Because we have recent history of those economists being wrong.


They don't get to cite their credentials and expect us to be impressed after the last 40 years.



You told me to watch. I said I would. And I will be.


You will not. YOur mind is made up and nicely closed. Standard for a modern lib.

Economists are paid to paint the circle around the arrow after the arrow's been shot.

Yeah, Trump is a much better choice to evaluate the economy. LOL After all, he went to Trump U.

YOu made a point. YOu cited experts in the field and what they say.



I pointed out that they are saying the same shit that did not work the way it was supposed to, over the last 50 years.



You did not respond directly to my response to you.

Instead all you offered was the Logical Fallacy of Appeal to Ridicule and some more Appeal to Authority.


That's a hard fail on your part.


My point stands.



THe economists have been proving wrong. We tried it their way, and it did not work.



YOu don't get to ignore the results of their policy and just keep citing their credentials.

 

[sealybobo]

The legal American community? WTF does that even mean? Did you stick the word legal in there because it makes you sound smart? It doesn't. It makes you look like what you are, a clueless cult member. You don't know what trickle down is or what supply side is and who started it. It's obvious that you should go back to school and pick up in the 7th grade where you left off. LOL

It was a reference to a point made in the post I was replying to, addressing the amount of money that instead of going to American workers, was instead paid to illegal aliens.


I bolded and enlarged that part above for you. Try reading it again.

We’ve become the UCA. United Corporations of America.

You trust them not your government who represents you. I understand why you don’t trust your government but why do you trust corporations? We all know they view labor as a cost not an asset.

Any temporary bumb in wages is just that. Temporary.

You’ll see.

By the way. I see very few threads posted by you cons showing us evidence America is great again. You show us you fucking with illegals but now show us wages going up because of supply and demand.

You show us trump tariffs but then we see Harley is leaving.

Show us a jobs report that’s better than Obama’s. Trump promised 5% growth

1. I never said I trusted corporations. YOu must have misunderstood what I said. Try reading just what I write and not making assumptions about hidden meanings.

2. I don't trust the government, because the government has demonstrated they are a tool of the Political Class that has nothing but contempt for me.


3. Trump's policies on Trade and Immigration have not yet been fully implemented. And yes, I wish he would move faster.

4. Supply and demand are real. If enough illegals are deported, and are not replaced by returning illegals or legal immigrants, and jobs, especially better jobs keep coming, wages should start to rise.


5. Push back was always going to occur. The question to ask, is why do you think that happened? Anti-tariff people claimed that deficits don't matter. It seems Europeans think they do matter.

Stop calling it the political class and start calling it what it is. It's the rich class!!! The government serves the rich and corporations. More now than ever with Trump's Supreme Court picks. Do you know since Alito and Roberts the Supremes have sided with the rich and corporations 100% of the time and NEVER with the citizen who's taking them on. Companies like Trump rule the world now sucker. You'll see when you NEVER retire. Watch. The middle class just took a huge hit with this Trump presidency. You keep entertaining yourself with delusions that Trump is working for you. If he was he wouldn't have passsed that bullshit tax bill and he would nominate a moderate to the Supreme Court.

And you think busting unions is going to bring wages up? You don't realize what the unions have done for you. That's ok I'm not going to convince you. Just know when you never retire, it wasn't the Democrats fault. I know you will blame them but in advance, that's bullshit.

No supply and demand does not always bring wages up. In fact there is a shortage of workers and wages are not going up like they should. So eventually the solution is going to be to import more legal immigrants. The last thing corporations want is for employees to have the power.

Let me know when the job market is a employees market. Do you know the last time that happened? It was when GM, Chrysler and Ford were paying their employees a lot of money. It brought all their wages up. Now you don't have that bar. That $35 hr bar. Now you have Walmart as the bar. So good luck making America great again. Don't hold your breath unless you are rich. If you are rich, it never stopped being great.

Just know you got played and you signed up for Trump U.

What is your alternative to Trump's Trade and Immigration policy as a way to see wages rise?

You know what? I’m going to wish trump luck and hope he makes things more fair for the American people. Same way you guys cheered when obama did away with pre existing conditions.

 

[Correll]

It was a reference to a point made in the post I was replying to, addressing the amount of money that instead of going to American workers, was instead paid to illegal aliens.


I bolded and enlarged that part above for you. Try reading it again.

We’ve become the UCA. United Corporations of America.

You trust them not your government who represents you. I understand why you don’t trust your government but why do you trust corporations? We all know they view labor as a cost not an asset.

Any temporary bumb in wages is just that. Temporary.

You’ll see.

By the way. I see very few threads posted by you cons showing us evidence America is great again. You show us you fucking with illegals but now show us wages going up because of supply and demand.

You show us trump tariffs but then we see Harley is leaving.

Show us a jobs report that’s better than Obama’s. Trump promised 5% growth

1. I never said I trusted corporations. YOu must have misunderstood what I said. Try reading just what I write and not making assumptions about hidden meanings.

2. I don't trust the government, because the government has demonstrated they are a tool of the Political Class that has nothing but contempt for me.


3. Trump's policies on Trade and Immigration have not yet been fully implemented. And yes, I wish he would move faster.

4. Supply and demand are real. If enough illegals are deported, and are not replaced by returning illegals or legal immigrants, and jobs, especially better jobs keep coming, wages should start to rise.


5. Push back was always going to occur. The question to ask, is why do you think that happened? Anti-tariff people claimed that deficits don't matter. It seems Europeans think they do matter.

Stop calling it the political class and start calling it what it is. It's the rich class!!! The government serves the rich and corporations. More now than ever with Trump's Supreme Court picks. Do you know since Alito and Roberts the Supremes have sided with the rich and corporations 100% of the time and NEVER with the citizen who's taking them on. Companies like Trump rule the world now sucker. You'll see when you NEVER retire. Watch. The middle class just took a huge hit with this Trump presidency. You keep entertaining yourself with delusions that Trump is working for you. If he was he wouldn't have passsed that bullshit tax bill and he would nominate a moderate to the Supreme Court.

And you think busting unions is going to bring wages up? You don't realize what the unions have done for you. That's ok I'm not going to convince you. Just know when you never retire, it wasn't the Democrats fault. I know you will blame them but in advance, that's bullshit.

No supply and demand does not always bring wages up. In fact there is a shortage of workers and wages are not going up like they should. So eventually the solution is going to be to import more legal immigrants. The last thing corporations want is for employees to have the power.

Let me know when the job market is a employees market. Do you know the last time that happened? It was when GM, Chrysler and Ford were paying their employees a lot of money. It brought all their wages up. Now you don't have that bar. That $35 hr bar. Now you have Walmart as the bar. So good luck making America great again. Don't hold your breath unless you are rich. If you are rich, it never stopped being great.

Just know you got played and you signed up for Trump U.

What is your alternative to Trump's Trade and Immigration policy as a way to see wages rise?

You know what? I’m going to wish trump luck and hope he makes things more fair for the American people. Same way you guys cheered when obama did away with pre existing conditions.

That's nice, but my question was serious.


I want to know what your alternatives are for improving things for the American Worker.

 

[sealybobo]

I've done two of your three, also.

It is so repulsive the way the Left lies about the jobs illegals do.


And so insulting to the Americans who have or are doing those jobs, to say that Americans won't do them.

I’ll agree. A man used to be able to feed a family being a waiter. And guys could go make good money working at ford or gm. If those jobs don’t exist then I want the maids, landscapers and carpenters to get compensated fairly so Americans can feed their families.

I heard at the meijers they’re paying $15 hr. That’s pretty good

I will be watching. Will you? Or will you be just accepting as Gospel whatever spun crap the media hands you?

If I didn't have a mind of my own like you, I'd believe what the conman says but since I do have a mind of my own, I'll trust economists and they're talking inflation because of the tarrifs and other things like withdrawing from every trade agreement ever made and alientaing our staunch allies. And, as I see you've bought the whole fake news mantra from the most fake human on earth. You'll have to live with that moronic decision.

The economists said that the dislocation from "Free Trade" would be a temporary problem, and that workers would either easily retrain for new high tech jobs, or be rehired to the new and more competitive US manufacturers.


They have not admitted that they were wrong. They are still trying to sell the same bullshit that has not worked.


IN this case, the historian trumps the economist. Because we have recent history of those economists being wrong.


They don't get to cite their credentials and expect us to be impressed after the last 40 years.



You told me to watch. I said I would. And I will be.


You will not. YOur mind is made up and nicely closed. Standard for a modern lib.

Economists are paid to paint the circle around the arrow after the arrow's been shot.

Yeah, Trump is a much better choice to evaluate the economy. LOL After all, he went to Trump U.

YOu made a point. YOu cited experts in the field and what they say.



I pointed out that they are saying the same shit that did not work the way it was supposed to, over the last 50 years.



You did not respond directly to my response to you.

Instead all you offered was the Logical Fallacy of Appeal to Ridicule and some more Appeal to Authority.


That's a hard fail on your part.


My point stands.



THe economists have been proving wrong. We tried it their way, and it did not work.



YOu don't get to ignore the results of their policy and just keep citing their credentials.

Just remember this. The rich have been controlling our government all this time. Since the 70s let’s say. So they and their spokesmen can tell you our way didn’t work but it was working just fine. Now it’s working better, for them not you. This is what it’s like when corporations run America. You have no idea how important those Supreme Court picks are going to mean to the middle class. We’re screwed. Buckle up and start saving

 

[sealybobo]

We’ve become the UCA. United Corporations of America.

You trust them not your government who represents you. I understand why you don’t trust your government but why do you trust corporations? We all know they view labor as a cost not an asset.

Any temporary bumb in wages is just that. Temporary.

You’ll see.

By the way. I see very few threads posted by you cons showing us evidence America is great again. You show us you fucking with illegals but now show us wages going up because of supply and demand.

You show us trump tariffs but then we see Harley is leaving.

Show us a jobs report that’s better than Obama’s. Trump promised 5% growth

1. I never said I trusted corporations. YOu must have misunderstood what I said. Try reading just what I write and not making assumptions about hidden meanings.

2. I don't trust the government, because the government has demonstrated they are a tool of the Political Class that has nothing but contempt for me.


3. Trump's policies on Trade and Immigration have not yet been fully implemented. And yes, I wish he would move faster.

4. Supply and demand are real. If enough illegals are deported, and are not replaced by returning illegals or legal immigrants, and jobs, especially better jobs keep coming, wages should start to rise.


5. Push back was always going to occur. The question to ask, is why do you think that happened? Anti-tariff people claimed that deficits don't matter. It seems Europeans think they do matter.

Stop calling it the political class and start calling it what it is. It's the rich class!!! The government serves the rich and corporations. More now than ever with Trump's Supreme Court picks. Do you know since Alito and Roberts the Supremes have sided with the rich and corporations 100% of the time and NEVER with the citizen who's taking them on. Companies like Trump rule the world now sucker. You'll see when you NEVER retire. Watch. The middle class just took a huge hit with this Trump presidency. You keep entertaining yourself with delusions that Trump is working for you. If he was he wouldn't have passsed that bullshit tax bill and he would nominate a moderate to the Supreme Court.

And you think busting unions is going to bring wages up? You don't realize what the unions have done for you. That's ok I'm not going to convince you. Just know when you never retire, it wasn't the Democrats fault. I know you will blame them but in advance, that's bullshit.

No supply and demand does not always bring wages up. In fact there is a shortage of workers and wages are not going up like they should. So eventually the solution is going to be to import more legal immigrants. The last thing corporations want is for employees to have the power.

Let me know when the job market is a employees market. Do you know the last time that happened? It was when GM, Chrysler and Ford were paying their employees a lot of money. It brought all their wages up. Now you don't have that bar. That $35 hr bar. Now you have Walmart as the bar. So good luck making America great again. Don't hold your breath unless you are rich. If you are rich, it never stopped being great.

Just know you got played and you signed up for Trump U.

What is your alternative to Trump's Trade and Immigration policy as a way to see wages rise?

You know what? I’m going to wish trump luck and hope he makes things more fair for the American people. Same way you guys cheered when obama did away with pre existing conditions.

That's nice, but my question was serious.


I want to know what your alternatives are for improving things for the American Worker.

Forget it you won’t like it

 

[sealybobo]

It has to do with a well regulated corporate America. Ceo can’t make 300 x the average worker

 

[Correll]

I’ll agree. A man used to be able to feed a family being a waiter. And guys could go make good money working at ford or gm. If those jobs don’t exist then I want the maids, landscapers and carpenters to get compensated fairly so Americans can feed their families.

I heard at the meijers they’re paying $15 hr. That’s pretty good

If I didn't have a mind of my own like you, I'd believe what the conman says but since I do have a mind of my own, I'll trust economists and they're talking inflation because of the tarrifs and other things like withdrawing from every trade agreement ever made and alientaing our staunch allies. And, as I see you've bought the whole fake news mantra from the most fake human on earth. You'll have to live with that moronic decision.

The economists said that the dislocation from "Free Trade" would be a temporary problem, and that workers would either easily retrain for new high tech jobs, or be rehired to the new and more competitive US manufacturers.


They have not admitted that they were wrong. They are still trying to sell the same bullshit that has not worked.


IN this case, the historian trumps the economist. Because we have recent history of those economists being wrong.


They don't get to cite their credentials and expect us to be impressed after the last 40 years.



You told me to watch. I said I would. And I will be.


You will not. YOur mind is made up and nicely closed. Standard for a modern lib.

Economists are paid to paint the circle around the arrow after the arrow's been shot.

Yeah, Trump is a much better choice to evaluate the economy. LOL After all, he went to Trump U.

YOu made a point. YOu cited experts in the field and what they say.



I pointed out that they are saying the same shit that did not work the way it was supposed to, over the last 50 years.



You did not respond directly to my response to you.

Instead all you offered was the Logical Fallacy of Appeal to Ridicule and some more Appeal to Authority.


That's a hard fail on your part.


My point stands.



THe economists have been proving wrong. We tried it their way, and it did not work.



YOu don't get to ignore the results of their policy and just keep citing their credentials.

Just remember this. The rich have been controlling our government all this time. Since the 70s let’s say. So they and their spokesmen can tell you our way didn’t work but it was working just fine. Now it’s working better, for them not you. This is what it’s like when corporations run America. You have no idea how important those Supreme Court picks are going to mean to the middle class. We’re screwed. Buckle up and start saving

Trump's policies, if implemented will be a radical change from the policies since the 70s.


If you didn't like the 70s and 80s, and 90s, and 00s, why are you not happy to see that change?

 

[Correll]

1. I never said I trusted corporations. YOu must have misunderstood what I said. Try reading just what I write and not making assumptions about hidden meanings.

2. I don't trust the government, because the government has demonstrated they are a tool of the Political Class that has nothing but contempt for me.


3. Trump's policies on Trade and Immigration have not yet been fully implemented. And yes, I wish he would move faster.

4. Supply and demand are real. If enough illegals are deported, and are not replaced by returning illegals or legal immigrants, and jobs, especially better jobs keep coming, wages should start to rise.


5. Push back was always going to occur. The question to ask, is why do you think that happened? Anti-tariff people claimed that deficits don't matter. It seems Europeans think they do matter.

Stop calling it the political class and start calling it what it is. It's the rich class!!! The government serves the rich and corporations. More now than ever with Trump's Supreme Court picks. Do you know since Alito and Roberts the Supremes have sided with the rich and corporations 100% of the time and NEVER with the citizen who's taking them on. Companies like Trump rule the world now sucker. You'll see when you NEVER retire. Watch. The middle class just took a huge hit with this Trump presidency. You keep entertaining yourself with delusions that Trump is working for you. If he was he wouldn't have passsed that bullshit tax bill and he would nominate a moderate to the Supreme Court.

And you think busting unions is going to bring wages up? You don't realize what the unions have done for you. That's ok I'm not going to convince you. Just know when you never retire, it wasn't the Democrats fault. I know you will blame them but in advance, that's bullshit.

No supply and demand does not always bring wages up. In fact there is a shortage of workers and wages are not going up like they should. So eventually the solution is going to be to import more legal immigrants. The last thing corporations want is for employees to have the power.

Let me know when the job market is a employees market. Do you know the last time that happened? It was when GM, Chrysler and Ford were paying their employees a lot of money. It brought all their wages up. Now you don't have that bar. That $35 hr bar. Now you have Walmart as the bar. So good luck making America great again. Don't hold your breath unless you are rich. If you are rich, it never stopped being great.

Just know you got played and you signed up for Trump U.

What is your alternative to Trump's Trade and Immigration policy as a way to see wages rise?

You know what? I’m going to wish trump luck and hope he makes things more fair for the American people. Same way you guys cheered when obama did away with pre existing conditions.

That's nice, but my question was serious.


I want to know what your alternatives are for improving things for the American Worker.

Forget it you won’t like it

Surely you aren't a marxist who believes in the state owning and controlling everything?


I'm unlikely to be offended by anything that is not that.

 

[sealybobo]

Stop calling it the political class and start calling it what it is. It's the rich class!!! The government serves the rich and corporations. More now than ever with Trump's Supreme Court picks. Do you know since Alito and Roberts the Supremes have sided with the rich and corporations 100% of the time and NEVER with the citizen who's taking them on. Companies like Trump rule the world now sucker. You'll see when you NEVER retire. Watch. The middle class just took a huge hit with this Trump presidency. You keep entertaining yourself with delusions that Trump is working for you. If he was he wouldn't have passsed that bullshit tax bill and he would nominate a moderate to the Supreme Court.

And you think busting unions is going to bring wages up? You don't realize what the unions have done for you. That's ok I'm not going to convince you. Just know when you never retire, it wasn't the Democrats fault. I know you will blame them but in advance, that's bullshit.

No supply and demand does not always bring wages up. In fact there is a shortage of workers and wages are not going up like they should. So eventually the solution is going to be to import more legal immigrants. The last thing corporations want is for employees to have the power.

Let me know when the job market is a employees market. Do you know the last time that happened? It was when GM, Chrysler and Ford were paying their employees a lot of money. It brought all their wages up. Now you don't have that bar. That $35 hr bar. Now you have Walmart as the bar. So good luck making America great again. Don't hold your breath unless you are rich. If you are rich, it never stopped being great.

Just know you got played and you signed up for Trump U.

What is your alternative to Trump's Trade and Immigration policy as a way to see wages rise?

You know what? I’m going to wish trump luck and hope he makes things more fair for the American people. Same way you guys cheered when obama did away with pre existing conditions.

That's nice, but my question was serious.


I want to know what your alternatives are for improving things for the American Worker.

Forget it you won’t like it

Surely you aren't a marxist who believes in the state owning and controlling everything?


I'm unlikely to be offended by anything that is not that.

In Germany When we stumbled onto the beautiful pool that was free to the people in the community, I compared it to what we have here in the USA. Lifetime fitness. It’s 70 a person per month. Most Americans can’t afford it. So, maybe our government can tax each of us $1 and we can all have a community park that’s free to all citizens.

Or is that unconstitutional?

I like some of the stuff trumps doing. But overall I don’t like his tax cuts to the rich and starting trade wars but he is now my president and I hope what he does works.

I’ll try not to be like you guys in 2016 you gave obama no credit for his success but damn it worked so maybe I’ll say trump sucks even if he doesn’t to win an election. I’ll be petty like you guys were. I’ll ask you what the real unemployment number is. I’ll start worrying about the debt and stock market and sluggish jobs numbers.

The economy should be R.I.P. roaring after that tax break. What happened? Did they sock those gains away or give the ceos a big raise? Then it didn’t do anything. Same thing happened when bush gave his unnecessary tax breaks

 

[Wickerthing]

Gee, you did all that? Was this before or after you became a millionaire wizard of Wall St? LOL
As far as PTSD, I worked at V.A. I just retired last year and I've seen what that can do to veterans. For you to belittle their service is right in line with the asshole you are.
You never answered my question there Warren. What brokerage houses did you work at and in what capacity?

I make it a habit not to give personal information to someone such as yourself who presents as mentally disturbed.

When I've been unemployed I have worked for friends for $10 hr. Under the table of course. Mold removal was the worst job I had. And there were young Americans working for the guy I worked for.

Wicker thinks that Americans won't do those jobs.


A lot of lefties claim that.

No, I said they wouldn't do it at the same wage as migrant workers.

Which was you moving the goal posts, btw.

In the case of replacing those workers with Americans, that's automatically inflationary because the cost of the goods and services would automatically rise to cover the additional expense to business owners.

I don't think that a nurse' aide making 15 bucks an hour instead of 9, is going to break the economy.

And, what is your alternative idea for improving things of the American worker?

Migrant workers have always been a key to our economy and a key to keeping prices under control. Any economist worth his salt will tell you that.

"Migrant" workers? These are not migrants we are talking about. Very few of them are going to be moving home any time soon (unless Trump forces them to).



So, that is nothing but bullshit on your part. That is you still pretending that we are talking about a few thousand strawberry pickers.


For someone who is supposedly so offended by lying, you sure do a lot of it.

Okay, I'll try to be more like Trump. LOL You're hopeless.

 

[Wickerthing]

Gee, you did all that? Was this before or after you became a millionaire wizard of Wall St? LOL
As far as PTSD, I worked at V.A. I just retired last year and I've seen what that can do to veterans. For you to belittle their service is right in line with the asshole you are.
You never answered my question there Warren. What brokerage houses did you work at and in what capacity?

I make it a habit not to give personal information to someone such as yourself who presents as mentally disturbed.

When I've been unemployed I have worked for friends for $10 hr. Under the table of course. Mold removal was the worst job I had. And there were young Americans working for the guy I worked for.

Wicker thinks that Americans won't do those jobs.


A lot of lefties claim that.

Wicker is a flat out, emotionally and mentally disturbed masochistic altruist.

I reject the notions that lefties are motivated by altruism.

They are too fucking mean spirited and full of hate for me to buy that shit.

Yeah, mean spirited. Like the way we tore kids away from their parents who dared dream the American dream. Blindness has cure, open your fuckin' eyes. LOL

 

[Wickerthing]

Me too.

So, you've picked fruit in the Florida or Texas heat for a couple of bucks an hour? Sure you did.

Washed dishes.
Cooked.
Janitor.
And only 2% of Ilegals pick fruits and veggies.
98% are babysitters, cleaning people and lawn keepers.
And what was your profession prior to suffering from PTSD?

I've done two of your three, also.

It is so repulsive the way the Left lies about the jobs illegals do.


And so insulting to the Americans who have or are doing those jobs, to say that Americans won't do them.

You're repulsed by lies? Really? LOL.

THis one is pretty repulsive. Let's break it down some.


1. It is very damaging to America and Americans. You lefties have successfully used this to support a policy that has caused terrible suffering to American and Americans, when it comes to jobs and crime and just dividing US up.


2. It is so incredibly and obviously untrue, that just saying it, is an insult to the intelligence of those you are lying to.

3. You lefties are so smug and confident about this utterly stupid lie you are telling. It literally disgusts me to see some one being such a lying ass, and hurting so many people, and managing to to somehow feel good about it.


4. It is insulting to the tens of millions, if not more, of Americans who have or ARE doing those jobs that you say Americans won't do. The implication is that those people are so poor or low class that they are not REAL Americans. That level of Classism, actually holding weight in American politics is disgusting to me.

You get more delusional by the minute. You hate classism? (that's not a word) yet you defend the white grand wizard in the oval office. That's called hypocrisy and Stupidism.

 

[Wickerthing]

What is your alternative to Trump's Trade and Immigration policy as a way to see wages rise?

You know what? I’m going to wish trump luck and hope he makes things more fair for the American people. Same way you guys cheered when obama did away with pre existing conditions.

That's nice, but my question was serious.


I want to know what your alternatives are for improving things for the American Worker.

Forget it you won’t like it

Surely you aren't a marxist who believes in the state owning and controlling everything?


I'm unlikely to be offended by anything that is not that.

In Germany When we stumbled onto the beautiful pool that was free to the people in the community, I compared it to what we have here in the USA. Lifetime fitness. It’s 70 a person per month. Most Americans can’t afford it. So, maybe our government can tax each of us $1 and we can all have a community park that’s free to all citizens.

Or is that unconstitutional?

I like some of the stuff trumps doing. But overall I don’t like his tax cuts to the rich and starting trade wars but he is now my president and I hope what he does works.

I’ll try not to be like you guys in 2016 you gave obama no credit for his success but damn it worked so maybe I’ll say trump sucks even if he doesn’t to win an election. I’ll be petty like you guys were. I’ll ask you what the real unemployment number is. I’ll start worrying about the debt and stock market and sluggish jobs numbers.

The economy should be R.I.P. roaring after that tax break. What happened? Did they sock those gains away or give the ceos a big raise? Then it didn’t do anything. Same thing happened when bush gave his unnecessary tax breaks

CEOs at a symposium before the tax bill passed were polled with the question, "How many here will expand their businesses when the tax bill passes?" Not a single hand went up. There were a few hundred in attendance. They did what they said they'd do. Enjoyed the raise that they didn't deserve or need.

 

[Unkotare]

..... So, maybe our government can tax each of us $1 and we can all have a community park that’s free to all citizens.....

The free public parks in America together are far, far larger than the entire nation of Germany, tourist. Every major city has municipal pools free to the public in the summer months. Stop playing the ugly anti-American.

 

[Correll]

What is your alternative to Trump's Trade and Immigration policy as a way to see wages rise?

You know what? I’m going to wish trump luck and hope he makes things more fair for the American people. Same way you guys cheered when obama did away with pre existing conditions.

That's nice, but my question was serious.


I want to know what your alternatives are for improving things for the American Worker.

Forget it you won’t like it

Surely you aren't a marxist who believes in the state owning and controlling everything?


I'm unlikely to be offended by anything that is not that.

In Germany When we stumbled onto the beautiful pool that was free to the people in the community, I compared it to what we have here in the USA. Lifetime fitness. It’s 70 a person per month. Most Americans can’t afford it. So, maybe our government can tax each of us $1 and we can all have a community park that’s free to all citizens.

Or is that unconstitutional?

I like some of the stuff trumps doing. But overall I don’t like his tax cuts to the rich and starting trade wars but he is now my president and I hope what he does works.

I’ll try not to be like you guys in 2016 you gave obama no credit for his success but damn it worked so maybe I’ll say trump sucks even if he doesn’t to win an election. I’ll be petty like you guys were. I’ll ask you what the real unemployment number is. I’ll start worrying about the debt and stock market and sluggish jobs numbers.

The economy should be R.I.P. roaring after that tax break. What happened? Did they sock those gains away or give the ceos a big raise? Then it didn’t do anything. Same thing happened when bush gave his unnecessary tax breaks

I live in a rust belt city. Lot of parks free to the public. Public pools that do cost something. Not 70 bucks a month.


I keep asking for what you want. You don't seem to have a real alternative.

The Tax cuts don't matter to wages. Higher taxes don't cause higher wages.

 

[Correll]

I make it a habit not to give personal information to someone such as yourself who presents as mentally disturbed.

When I've been unemployed I have worked for friends for $10 hr. Under the table of course. Mold removal was the worst job I had. And there were young Americans working for the guy I worked for.

Wicker thinks that Americans won't do those jobs.


A lot of lefties claim that.

No, I said they wouldn't do it at the same wage as migrant workers.

Which was you moving the goal posts, btw.

In the case of replacing those workers with Americans, that's automatically inflationary because the cost of the goods and services would automatically rise to cover the additional expense to business owners.

I don't think that a nurse' aide making 15 bucks an hour instead of 9, is going to break the economy.

And, what is your alternative idea for improving things of the American worker?

Migrant workers have always been a key to our economy and a key to keeping prices under control. Any economist worth his salt will tell you that.

"Migrant" workers? These are not migrants we are talking about. Very few of them are going to be moving home any time soon (unless Trump forces them to).



So, that is nothing but bullshit on your part. That is you still pretending that we are talking about a few thousand strawberry pickers.


For someone who is supposedly so offended by lying, you sure do a lot of it.

Okay, I'll try to be more like Trump. LOL You're hopeless.

Your admission of defeat is accepted.


Let's keep an eye out for reports of rising wages. SHould not be too long now.

 

[Correll]

I make it a habit not to give personal information to someone such as yourself who presents as mentally disturbed.

When I've been unemployed I have worked for friends for $10 hr. Under the table of course. Mold removal was the worst job I had. And there were young Americans working for the guy I worked for.

Wicker thinks that Americans won't do those jobs.


A lot of lefties claim that.

Wicker is a flat out, emotionally and mentally disturbed masochistic altruist.

I reject the notions that lefties are motivated by altruism.

They are too fucking mean spirited and full of hate for me to buy that shit.

Yeah, mean spirited. Like the way we tore kids away from their parents who dared dream the American dream. Blindness has cure, open your fuckin' eyes. LOL

No. I don't really blame you libs for that. Sure Obama did it. That's when the photo was from.


But really the parents are to blame.


No, your hate and meanness are expressed in other ways. Lots of other ways.

 

[Correll]

So, you've picked fruit in the Florida or Texas heat for a couple of bucks an hour? Sure you did.

Washed dishes.
Cooked.
Janitor.
And only 2% of Ilegals pick fruits and veggies.
98% are babysitters, cleaning people and lawn keepers.
And what was your profession prior to suffering from PTSD?

I've done two of your three, also.

It is so repulsive the way the Left lies about the jobs illegals do.


And so insulting to the Americans who have or are doing those jobs, to say that Americans won't do them.

You're repulsed by lies? Really? LOL.

THis one is pretty repulsive. Let's break it down some.


1. It is very damaging to America and Americans. You lefties have successfully used this to support a policy that has caused terrible suffering to American and Americans, when it comes to jobs and crime and just dividing US up.


2. It is so incredibly and obviously untrue, that just saying it, is an insult to the intelligence of those you are lying to.

3. You lefties are so smug and confident about this utterly stupid lie you are telling. It literally disgusts me to see some one being such a lying ass, and hurting so many people, and managing to to somehow feel good about it.


4. It is insulting to the tens of millions, if not more, of Americans who have or ARE doing those jobs that you say Americans won't do. The implication is that those people are so poor or low class that they are not REAL Americans. That level of Classism, actually holding weight in American politics is disgusting to me.

You get more delusional by the minute. You hate classism? (that's not a word) yet you defend the white grand wizard in the oval office. That's called hypocrisy and Stupidism.

Your race baiting is noted and held against you. You are a race baiting asshole.


Other than that, you did nothing to address my points about your lie, so they all stand.


THis one is pretty repulsive. Let's break it down some.


1. It is very damaging to America and Americans. You lefties have successfully used this to support a policy that has caused terrible suffering to American and Americans, when it comes to jobs and crime and just dividing US up.


2. It is so incredibly and obviously untrue, that just saying it, is an insult to the intelligence of those you are lying to.

3. You lefties are so smug and confident about this utterly stupid lie you are telling. It literally disgusts me to see some one being such a lying ass, and hurting so many people, and managing to to somehow feel good about it.


4. It is insulting to the tens of millions, if not more, of Americans who have or ARE doing those jobs that you say Americans won't do. The implication is that those people are so poor or low class that they are not REAL Americans. That level of Classism, actually holding weight in American politics is disgusting to me.