President Trump backs new bill to give nationwide right to conceal carry

[Ray From Cleveland]

yep , if you can't make weapons ineffective one way , you will try to make them ineffective in another way eh . Why do my employees the Police and Military carry full capacity Magazines and as many full capacity magazines that they think they might need PTime .

Why do well armed police get shot and killed regularly? Less armed police in the UK are a whole lot safer...

So do you think we would have more or less murdered police officers if they didn't carry weapons?

Being well armed clearly doesn’t help. We would have much less with strong gun control. They would also kill fewer themselves.

It doesn't? Then answer the question. Do you know how many times police have saved their own lives or lives of others because they are armed?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Anyone who needs a gun must be really incompetent at life.

And anybody who believes disarming the public will lead to disarming the criminal is delusional.

Lots of legal ownership guarantees lots of illegal ownership. Have you noticed countries with strong gun control don’t have our problems?

Have you noticed that as those countries get more "diverse" they are getting more of our "type" of problems?
If people want to kill they will, they'll use cars and run down people......you know like in Charlottesville or France or England. Are we going to ban cars?

how about worrying about stopping crime and not on the tools they use.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Anyone who needs a gun must be really incompetent at life.

And anybody who believes disarming the public will lead to disarming the criminal is delusional.

They don't care about disarming criminals. All these laws are designed to do is disarm the law abiding to further control them.

Democrats don't mind guns. What they hate are people being able to use those guns to defend themselves.

Democrats love the helpless. The more helpless people in the country, the more Democrat votes.

However Democrats are not stupid either. They know damn well if they could disarm the public, that would only leave the criminals and police with firearms. The rest of us would be victims just the way they want us.

 

[Brain357]

Anyone who needs a gun must be really incompetent at life.

And anybody who believes disarming the public will lead to disarming the criminal is delusional.

Lots of legal ownership guarantees lots of illegal ownership. Have you noticed countries with strong gun control don’t have our problems?

Have you noticed those countries are not nearly as diverse as our country is?

Keep blaming the inanimate object instead of the people. That will get you everywhere.

Every country has criminals, they just aren’t so well armed. Israel even has a big population of Muslims. Did you notice our gun crime went way down after the Brady bill?

 

[Brain357]

yep , if you can't make weapons ineffective one way , you will try to make them ineffective in another way eh . Why do my employees the Police and Military carry full capacity Magazines and as many full capacity magazines that they think they might need PTime .

Why do well armed police get shot and killed regularly? Less armed police in the UK are a whole lot safer...

So do you think we would have more or less murdered police officers if they didn't carry weapons?

Being well armed clearly doesn’t help. We would have much less with strong gun control. They would also kill fewer themselves.

It doesn't? Then answer the question. Do you know how many times police have saved their own lives or lives of others because they are armed?

Beats me. They sure get shot more and shoot more people here than in countries with strong gun control.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Anyone who needs a gun must be really incompetent at life.

And anybody who believes disarming the public will lead to disarming the criminal is delusional.

They don't care about disarming criminals. All these laws are designed to do is disarm the law abiding to further control them.

Democrats don't mind guns. What they hate are people being able to use those guns to defend themselves.

Democrats love the helpless. The more helpless people in the country, the more Democrat votes.

However Democrats are not stupid either. They know damn well if they could disarm the public, that would only leave the criminals and police with firearms. The rest of us would be victims just the way they want us.

Well said, I cant say it any better

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Anyone who needs a gun must be really incompetent at life.

And anybody who believes disarming the public will lead to disarming the criminal is delusional.

Lots of legal ownership guarantees lots of illegal ownership. Have you noticed countries with strong gun control don’t have our problems?

Have you noticed those countries are not nearly as diverse as our country is?

Keep blaming the inanimate object instead of the people. That will get you everywhere.

Every country has criminals, they just aren’t so well armed. Israel even has a big population of Muslims. Did you notice our gun crime went way down after the Brady bill?

No, our gun crime and violent crime in general went down as more states started to adopt CCW programs and laws that protect the victim instead of the criminal.

Ban on assault weapons didn’t reduce violence

 

[Brain357]

Anyone who needs a gun must be really incompetent at life.

And anybody who believes disarming the public will lead to disarming the criminal is delusional.

They don't care about disarming criminals. All these laws are designed to do is disarm the law abiding to further control them.

Democrats don't mind guns. What they hate are people being able to use those guns to defend themselves.

Democrats love the helpless. The more helpless people in the country, the more Democrat votes.

However Democrats are not stupid either. They know damn well if they could disarm the public, that would only leave the criminals and police with firearms. The rest of us would be victims just the way they want us.

Only an idiot is helpless without a gun.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Anyone who needs a gun must be really incompetent at life.

And anybody who believes disarming the public will lead to disarming the criminal is delusional.

Lots of legal ownership guarantees lots of illegal ownership. Have you noticed countries with strong gun control don’t have our problems?

Have you noticed those countries are not nearly as diverse as our country is?

Keep blaming the inanimate object instead of the people. That will get you everywhere.

Every country has criminals, they just aren’t so well armed. Israel even has a big population of Muslims. Did you notice our gun crime went way down after the Brady bill?

Chicago has strong control, as does Illinois, it doesn't help when you have savages. We need crime control, not gun control.

 

[Brain357]

Anyone who needs a gun must be really incompetent at life.

And anybody who believes disarming the public will lead to disarming the criminal is delusional.

Lots of legal ownership guarantees lots of illegal ownership. Have you noticed countries with strong gun control don’t have our problems?

Have you noticed those countries are not nearly as diverse as our country is?

Keep blaming the inanimate object instead of the people. That will get you everywhere.

Every country has criminals, they just aren’t so well armed. Israel even has a big population of Muslims. Did you notice our gun crime went way down after the Brady bill?

No, our gun crime and violent crime in general went down as more states started to adopt CCW programs and laws that protect the victim instead of the criminal.

Ban on assault weapons didn’t reduce violence

That’s a joke. Crime went down drastically after background checks. Your state had no effect from concealed carry.

 

[Brain357]

Anyone who needs a gun must be really incompetent at life.

And anybody who believes disarming the public will lead to disarming the criminal is delusional.

Lots of legal ownership guarantees lots of illegal ownership. Have you noticed countries with strong gun control don’t have our problems?

Have you noticed those countries are not nearly as diverse as our country is?

Keep blaming the inanimate object instead of the people. That will get you everywhere.

Every country has criminals, they just aren’t so well armed. Israel even has a big population of Muslims. Did you notice our gun crime went way down after the Brady bill?

Chicago has strong control, as does Illinois, it doesn't help when you have savages. We need crime control, not gun control.

And they have no walls and are surrounded by weak laws.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

yep , if you can't make weapons ineffective one way , you will try to make them ineffective in another way eh . Why do my employees the Police and Military carry full capacity Magazines and as many full capacity magazines that they think they might need PTime .

Why do well armed police get shot and killed regularly? Less armed police in the UK are a whole lot safer...

So do you think we would have more or less murdered police officers if they didn't carry weapons?

Being well armed clearly doesn’t help. We would have much less with strong gun control. They would also kill fewer themselves.

It doesn't? Then answer the question. Do you know how many times police have saved their own lives or lives of others because they are armed?

Beats me. They sure get shot more and shoot more people here than in countries with strong gun control.

Yes, because the only thing you focus on are the guns and believe people are not the problem.

The Captain's Journal » Do Gun Bans Reduce Violent Crime? Ask the Aussies and Brits

 

[buckeye45_73]

Anyone who needs a gun must be really incompetent at life.

And anybody who believes disarming the public will lead to disarming the criminal is delusional.

They don't care about disarming criminals. All these laws are designed to do is disarm the law abiding to further control them.

Democrats don't mind guns. What they hate are people being able to use those guns to defend themselves.

Democrats love the helpless. The more helpless people in the country, the more Democrat votes.

However Democrats are not stupid either. They know damn well if they could disarm the public, that would only leave the criminals and police with firearms. The rest of us would be victims just the way they want us.

Only an idiot is helpless without a gun.

Talk about a privilege and entitled opinion, you are a piece of shit. what an arrogant statement and a very stupid one at that. Then our military and police shouldn't have guns.......because they should be smart enough not to need them....what a fucking dumb statement

 

[Brain357]

Why do well armed police get shot and killed regularly? Less armed police in the UK are a whole lot safer...

So do you think we would have more or less murdered police officers if they didn't carry weapons?

Being well armed clearly doesn’t help. We would have much less with strong gun control. They would also kill fewer themselves.

It doesn't? Then answer the question. Do you know how many times police have saved their own lives or lives of others because they are armed?

Beats me. They sure get shot more and shoot more people here than in countries with strong gun control.

Yes, because the only thing you focus on are the guns and believe people are not the problem.

The Captain's Journal » Do Gun Bans Reduce Violent Crime? Ask the Aussies and Brits

Yes cause it’s the only thing proven to work.

 

[buckeye45_73]

And anybody who believes disarming the public will lead to disarming the criminal is delusional.

Lots of legal ownership guarantees lots of illegal ownership. Have you noticed countries with strong gun control don’t have our problems?

Have you noticed those countries are not nearly as diverse as our country is?

Keep blaming the inanimate object instead of the people. That will get you everywhere.

Every country has criminals, they just aren’t so well armed. Israel even has a big population of Muslims. Did you notice our gun crime went way down after the Brady bill?

Chicago has strong control, as does Illinois, it doesn't help when you have savages. We need crime control, not gun control.

And they have no walls and are surrounded by weak laws.

walls you say? I thought walls were useless?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And anybody who believes disarming the public will lead to disarming the criminal is delusional.

Lots of legal ownership guarantees lots of illegal ownership. Have you noticed countries with strong gun control don’t have our problems?

Have you noticed those countries are not nearly as diverse as our country is?

Keep blaming the inanimate object instead of the people. That will get you everywhere.

Every country has criminals, they just aren’t so well armed. Israel even has a big population of Muslims. Did you notice our gun crime went way down after the Brady bill?

No, our gun crime and violent crime in general went down as more states started to adopt CCW programs and laws that protect the victim instead of the criminal.

Ban on assault weapons didn’t reduce violence

That’s a joke. Crime went down drastically after background checks. Your state had no effect from concealed carry.

So on one hand you claim that crime went down because of background checks and on the other, you claim that criminals get guns and commit crime even with background checks. Which is it?

 

[Brain357]

Anyone who needs a gun must be really incompetent at life.

And anybody who believes disarming the public will lead to disarming the criminal is delusional.

They don't care about disarming criminals. All these laws are designed to do is disarm the law abiding to further control them.

Democrats don't mind guns. What they hate are people being able to use those guns to defend themselves.

Democrats love the helpless. The more helpless people in the country, the more Democrat votes.

However Democrats are not stupid either. They know damn well if they could disarm the public, that would only leave the criminals and police with firearms. The rest of us would be victims just the way they want us.

Only an idiot is helpless without a gun.

Talk about a privilege and entitled opinion, you are a piece of shit. what an arrogant statement and a very stupid one at that. Then our military and police shouldn't have guns.......because they should be smart enough not to need them....what a fucking dumb statement

Sounds like you are an idiot. Shocking.

 

[buckeye45_73]

So do you think we would have more or less murdered police officers if they didn't carry weapons?

Being well armed clearly doesn’t help. We would have much less with strong gun control. They would also kill fewer themselves.

It doesn't? Then answer the question. Do you know how many times police have saved their own lives or lives of others because they are armed?

Beats me. They sure get shot more and shoot more people here than in countries with strong gun control.

Yes, because the only thing you focus on are the guns and believe people are not the problem.

The Captain's Journal » Do Gun Bans Reduce Violent Crime? Ask the Aussies and Brits

Yes cause it’s the only thing proven to work.

what?

 

[buckeye45_73]

And anybody who believes disarming the public will lead to disarming the criminal is delusional.

They don't care about disarming criminals. All these laws are designed to do is disarm the law abiding to further control them.

Democrats don't mind guns. What they hate are people being able to use those guns to defend themselves.

Democrats love the helpless. The more helpless people in the country, the more Democrat votes.

However Democrats are not stupid either. They know damn well if they could disarm the public, that would only leave the criminals and police with firearms. The rest of us would be victims just the way they want us.

Only an idiot is helpless without a gun.

Talk about a privilege and entitled opinion, you are a piece of shit. what an arrogant statement and a very stupid one at that. Then our military and police shouldn't have guns.......because they should be smart enough not to need them....what a fucking dumb statement

Sounds like you are an idiot. Shocking.

nope you made the statement, that only an idiot needs a gun.....that's a really stupid statement.

 

[Brain357]

Lots of legal ownership guarantees lots of illegal ownership. Have you noticed countries with strong gun control don’t have our problems?

Have you noticed those countries are not nearly as diverse as our country is?

Keep blaming the inanimate object instead of the people. That will get you everywhere.

Every country has criminals, they just aren’t so well armed. Israel even has a big population of Muslims. Did you notice our gun crime went way down after the Brady bill?

No, our gun crime and violent crime in general went down as more states started to adopt CCW programs and laws that protect the victim instead of the criminal.

Ban on assault weapons didn’t reduce violence

That’s a joke. Crime went down drastically after background checks. Your state had no effect from concealed carry.

So on one hand you claim that crime went down because of background checks and on the other, you claim that criminals get guns and commit crime even with background checks. Which is it?

With lots of lawful ownership, lots of guns are stolen.