President Trump BOLDLY walked up St. John's Church with a Bible in his hand.

There is a million things in this world, worth discussing.
Really? How is holding up a Bible, a big deal?
I don't get why this is even an issue worth talking about.
Holding the Bible isn’t the issue. If you don’t know that by now then I can’t help ya

Right, because there is no issue at all. And no, you of all people can't help anyone, let alone me.
Agreed, there is no helping people like you

Sure there is. Just not from someone dumber, and less knowledgeable than me. You have to be the smarter person to help someone else, and for you that simply isn't possible.
Your attempt to insult me caused you to make another idiotic point that isn’t true. We are capable of learning from everybody and every thing we encounter. Not just those who are smarter than us. That was a big swing and a miss. Another lesson that you surely won’t learn anything from. Haha
 
I hold trump to a higher standard than I do the media. The media has always been hyperbolic garbage, that’s baked in. Our elected officials and especially our president don’t get free passes because the media spins. But as I said, once that narrative came out Trump could have easily clarified, or better yet shouldn’t have been trying to detract focus from the horrific killing of a young lady by White suprematists scum. The more I watch how he responded to that situation the more I saw him escalating instead of deescalating. It’s his ego. That’s how he is.


THe media is not spin. THey flat out lied, and it was a horrifically divisive lie.

Trump's behavior in that issue, was nearly perfect. Saying that Trump should have "clarified" to fix the media's lie, is not holding Trump to a higher standard, it is just choosing to side with your side, even when it is clearly in the wrong.

The division in our society, that you are supporting by being a part of, is tearing this country apart.


And is part of the same process that is killing people in the streets right now.



I've seen this coming for quite some time. When you call people "nazis" you are not trying to find a way to work together, but laying the moral justification for the use of violence.


Consider this. It will get worse. Much worse. How many people are you willing to see die, to advance your partisan agenda?
Trumps actions were far from perfect. A woman was killed by a white suprematists after a band of Nazis walked with torches down the streets chanting blood and soil. So when the president speaks speaks about that event he should stay on message and not conflate it with a statue protest to pick a fight with ANTIFA. Some people truly do see the fact that he deflected blame at that moment from the Nazis to change the subject and praise the statue protestors and blame ANTIFA as a racist act. they see it as a cover for the Nazis by minimizing their message. I don’t go that far but I understand the sentiment and Trump doubled down on it by how he then responded.

And I did then and do now correct people who say that he was calling the Nazis very fine people. That has become a dishonest propaganda slogan from the Left and there is no excuse for it


Why is it important to ignore the fact that Antifa was also violent or that some people who were there were there because of a less radical reason?
because the question he was asked wasn’t about that and the focus of the day was regarding a racist who killed a girl. He could talk about the statues and ANTIFA if asked about it or perhaps in a different setting but when emotions are high over a racist killing then the messaging from our leader should be clear. You really don’t understand that? Or how conflating the issues in the way that he did minimizes the actions of the racists?
 
I would love to. And just as soon as liberals stop staring such shit, I will stop giving it back to them.

The fucking cowards. They want to be able to say the most hateful shit about us, and get civil treatment in return.

The most entitled whores imaginable.
Chicken or egg... both sides feel the other side started it and both feel their childish actions are justified. Both sides need to grow up. The only thing you’re in control of is yourself


Bull. Every day I start talking to people, I start out, treating them with standard civility. And every day, fucking libs can't go more than a few sentences, AT MOST, before they start acting like monkeys throwing shit.


Retarded monkeys.
That’s because your on an internet message board where trolls troll. This isn’t real. And youve conflated me plenty of times with those shit throwers when I ask simple question and try to share honest opinions. Don’t play all righteousness we all get sucked down into the mud. It doesn’t make it right


Your willingness to admit that the media lied about what Trump said, is demonstrating an hither to, unseen capacity for individuality from someone from your side of the divide.

YOur credibility in asking questions, or sharing opinions, might increase dramatically, moving forward.
 
But you had to attack him. You couldn't give unity a nod, not for one second.
"Unity"

From a Trumpster.

:laugh:
.....

From a Trump supporter. Correct. What part of that is confusing to you?

You people are divisive. Not us, not Trump.


As this example shows to the nth degree.
Unity is a two way street.

Perhaps if you held the posters I quoted (and you deleted) accountable for their words with the same tenacity with which you complain about those who dare to criticize Trump, you could be taken seriously.

Right now, all you can really see is one side of this. Zero empathy, just like Trump.



I'm not asking you to disavow some list of anti-white racists before I accept your support on the controversial stance of NOT BURNING CHURCHES.


Rightwinger is actually quite racist against whites. Have I every shoved quotes from him in your face and demanded that you do "hold him accountable" for his misdeeds?


You have choices and you make them, and then find reasons for them afterwards.


Your side is choosing to tear America apart.


People are dying in the streets and you are continuing to refuse to unite on ANYTHING.


You do realize that this will only get worse, if you continue to do more of the same, right?
Look at all that deflection.

You absolutely refuse to hold your side accountable. I'm not afraid to hold my side accountable.

You're not to be taken seriously.


No deflection. YOu made a point, and I addressed it seriously and honestly.


You are supporting division to the point that you can't support Trump on NOT BURNING CHURCHES.


Unity does not require complete agreement or satisfaction on all issues. If so, unity would never occur.
Holy shit Correll! You’re still on this burning churches narrative?! I addressed that yesterday and you ignored my points. The issue isn’t about a president taking a stance against burning churches. We are unified in being against burning churches. You know damn well what the issues are over with this situation. It’s being laid out for you over and over again. If you can’t have an honest debate then what the hell are you doing here? Trolling? Do better


Too late to walk it back, slade. He took the position and you libs attacked him.

Your excuses for your actions were noted.


YOu choose division and hate.
Whatever you are “noting” is all wrong. I’m not walking anything back, I’m correcting your spin. I’ve explained several times now what the problem is... and the problem is not standing up against burning churches. As I said before, at this point you are either intentionally trolling or not taking the time to listen to what’s being said in critique of Trump



You people can always find some excuse for your division and hate.

THe stated reasons are utter shit. Like your pretend concern about the Constitution. From people who would shit can the first and second amendments in a heartbeat, if they could, and suddenly we are supposed to pretend to take your concern for the Constitution seriously?

LOL!!!!


You are so full of hate, that you can't even support DON'T BURN CHURCHES, if the message comes from the other side.
Wow, changing the subject again?! I haven’t said a word about the constitution. Are you unable to follow the debate or are you that desperate that you need to fling in random subjects to the debate. Come on... do better.

Also, I literally just wrote that we are unified in being against burning churches so your last line there is a complete lie


A lot of you have said a lot of shit, about your "Reasons" for attacking the President on this issue.

I've challenged all of you on your stated reasons and none of you have been able to defend your stated reasons.

You don't gas people to create a photo op.


Yeah, you said that before. I asked you, if it were not for the clearing of the protesters, would you have supported the President, and you did not respond.


Because, like all your people's stated reasons, it is pure bullshit.

I did respond. I clearly stated that if he had actually been leaving a church service I would have gave him a pass.

I'm not impressed by someone using something as a photo op he never supports under any other circumstance.



Your pretense of conflating church attendance with not wanting to see churches burn, is not credible.


YOur stated excuses for your division, are obvious bullshit and you are not fooling anyone.

You can complain all you want but the photo op went over very poorly. It wasn't believable.



You people had the choice of support NOT BURNING CHURCHES, OPPOSING NOT BURNING CHURCHES, or LETTING IT PASS QUIETLY.


You choose, OPPOSE AND DIVIDE.


That is on you.
From now on every time i see you recycling this tired talking point about opposing the Burning of churches which I already explained Was not what people have a problem with, I’m going to simply point out that you’re being a TROLL TROLL TROLL



Except I am not trolling. I have asked ever liberal who has attacked the President on this issue, whether, if their stated reason was NOT there, if they would have supported the President's message.


ALL OF THEM except you, did not answer at all. ONly you stated that in that case, you would support the President.

They did that, because their stated reasons were bullshit. THey choose to oppose the President, because they want to divide America.



I am not the one trolling. They are.

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Except I am not trolling. I have asked ever liberal who has attacked the President on this issue, whether, if their stated reason was NOT there, if they would have supported the President's message.


ALL OF THEM except you, did not answer at all. ONly you stated that in that case, you would support the President.

They did that, because their stated reasons were bullshit. THey choose to oppose the President, because they want to divide America.



I am not the one trolling. They are.
 
I just no longer have words for this, so I'll ask three very serious questions:

First, would someone like to explain what this man did yesterday, holding up Bible and saying "It's a Bible"?

Second, what was the point of that, what was his goal?

Third, do you believe we were witnessing a devout Christian there, holding up a religion's holy book in humble reverence?

Thanks in advance.



First, I'm not sure what sort of explanation you need. Is it that you didn't recognize it until he told you, or that you can't imagine why anyone would hold one?

Second, I'm pretty sure the point would be obvious to anyone who wasn't desperate to find fault with Trump about everything. It was a historic church that was burned by rioters in the nation's capital. As symbolism goes, I'd say that one was about as blatant and clear as it's possible to get.

Third, do you believe that YOU are someone who Trump or anyone else needs to defend their devoutness to, one way or another? The status of Trump's soul is between him and God; you are neither. How about you just take it that he clearly has more respect for Christianity than you do and leave it at that?
 
I imagine there are a lot of REAL Christians who are insulted and ashamed after that stunt.

I imagine you know nothing about "REAL Christians" if you're imagining that. In fact, just the phrase "REAL Christians" tells me you know exactly jack and shit about the religion you started pretending to care about 5 seconds ago when you decided it would make a handy weapon to attack Trump with.
 
Can you really defend something you yourself have never read?
Do you foolishly believe Trump has actually taken the time to read it? Seriously? Every stance he takes and word he speaks, is anti Christ.
The fact that no one has answered my three perfectly reasonable questions so far makes it pretty clear that, at some level, they know what this man is.

Makes it pretty clear to ME that no one is that interested in reading your threads. Frankly, I wouldn't be reading it now if I wasn't waiting for my scanner to finish working.
 
There is a million things in this world, worth discussing.
Really? How is holding up a Bible, a big deal?
I don't get why this is even an issue worth talking about.
Holding the Bible isn’t the issue. If you don’t know that by now then I can’t help ya

Right, because there is no issue at all. And no, you of all people can't help anyone, let alone me.
Agreed, there is no helping people like you

Sure there is. Just not from someone dumber, and less knowledgeable than me. You have to be the smarter person to help someone else, and for you that simply isn't possible.
Your attempt to insult me caused you to make another idiotic point that isn’t true. We are capable of learning from everybody and every thing we encounter. Not just those who are smarter than us. That was a big swing and a miss. Another lesson that you surely won’t learn anything from. Haha

Not from you, no. I have no idea how I could learn something from someone who knows so much less than me. But if you can learn from those who know less than you... that might explain why you know so little.
 
I hold trump to a higher standard than I do the media. The media has always been hyperbolic garbage, that’s baked in. Our elected officials and especially our president don’t get free passes because the media spins. But as I said, once that narrative came out Trump could have easily clarified, or better yet shouldn’t have been trying to detract focus from the horrific killing of a young lady by White suprematists scum. The more I watch how he responded to that situation the more I saw him escalating instead of deescalating. It’s his ego. That’s how he is.


THe media is not spin. THey flat out lied, and it was a horrifically divisive lie.

Trump's behavior in that issue, was nearly perfect. Saying that Trump should have "clarified" to fix the media's lie, is not holding Trump to a higher standard, it is just choosing to side with your side, even when it is clearly in the wrong.

The division in our society, that you are supporting by being a part of, is tearing this country apart.


And is part of the same process that is killing people in the streets right now.



I've seen this coming for quite some time. When you call people "nazis" you are not trying to find a way to work together, but laying the moral justification for the use of violence.


Consider this. It will get worse. Much worse. How many people are you willing to see die, to advance your partisan agenda?
Trumps actions were far from perfect. A woman was killed by a white suprematists after a band of Nazis walked with torches down the streets chanting blood and soil. So when the president speaks speaks about that event he should stay on message and not conflate it with a statue protest to pick a fight with ANTIFA. Some people truly do see the fact that he deflected blame at that moment from the Nazis to change the subject and praise the statue protestors and blame ANTIFA as a racist act. they see it as a cover for the Nazis by minimizing their message. I don’t go that far but I understand the sentiment and Trump doubled down on it by how he then responded.

And I did then and do now correct people who say that he was calling the Nazis very fine people. That has become a dishonest propaganda slogan from the Left and there is no excuse for it


Why is it important to ignore the fact that Antifa was also violent or that some people who were there were there because of a less radical reason?
because the question he was asked wasn’t about that and the focus of the day was regarding a racist who killed a girl. He could talk about the statues and ANTIFA if asked about it or perhaps in a different setting but when emotions are high over a racist killing then the messaging from our leader should be clear. You really don’t understand that? Or how conflating the issues in the way that he did minimizes the actions of the racists?


The murder took place in the context of a riot between Antifa and White Supremacists.

That the questions from the media were designed to give Antifa and others a pass for their share of responsibility for the events, is not a good thing and not something that any President should support.


Nothing in acknowledging that, minimizes the actions of the racists, or the actual murderer.


Unless, you are arguing that White Supremacists are such bad people that they should be given blame for events and actions even beyond what they actually did?


I'm pretty sure that is not your intent, so..... what is?
 
I would love to. And just as soon as liberals stop staring such shit, I will stop giving it back to them.

The fucking cowards. They want to be able to say the most hateful shit about us, and get civil treatment in return.

The most entitled whores imaginable.
Chicken or egg... both sides feel the other side started it and both feel their childish actions are justified. Both sides need to grow up. The only thing you’re in control of is yourself


Bull. Every day I start talking to people, I start out, treating them with standard civility. And every day, fucking libs can't go more than a few sentences, AT MOST, before they start acting like monkeys throwing shit.


Retarded monkeys.
That’s because your on an internet message board where trolls troll. This isn’t real. And youve conflated me plenty of times with those shit throwers when I ask simple question and try to share honest opinions. Don’t play all righteousness we all get sucked down into the mud. It doesn’t make it right


Your willingness to admit that the media lied about what Trump said, is demonstrating an hither to, unseen capacity for individuality from someone from your side of the divide.

YOur credibility in asking questions, or sharing opinions, might increase dramatically, moving forward.
I’ve always taken the media with a grain of salt. I find it entertaining to see through the spin. Probably listen to conservative radio more than anything where the spin is extremely poignant. Regardless, that does not mean I condone Trumps “Fake News” campaign as he has exploited people’s mistrust in the media to label all of it fake to dismiss his negative press, which is often very accurate. I can’t tell you how many Trump supporters I know who stopped watching the news because they think it’s all fake. Or who I can’t have a conversation with because they think it’s all fake news. No, it’s not all fake. A very small percentage of the stories they get wrong. There is an over abundance of Opinion and pundits on there spinning yes that is true but also easy to see through.
 
There is a million things in this world, worth discussing.
Really? How is holding up a Bible, a big deal?
I don't get why this is even an issue worth talking about.
Holding the Bible isn’t the issue. If you don’t know that by now then I can’t help ya

Right, because there is no issue at all. And no, you of all people can't help anyone, let alone me.
Agreed, there is no helping people like you

Sure there is. Just not from someone dumber, and less knowledgeable than me. You have to be the smarter person to help someone else, and for you that simply isn't possible.
Your attempt to insult me caused you to make another idiotic point that isn’t true. We are capable of learning from everybody and every thing we encounter. Not just those who are smarter than us. That was a big swing and a miss. Another lesson that you surely won’t learn anything from. Haha

Not from you, no. I have no idea how I could learn something from someone who knows so much less than me. But if you can learn from those who know less than you... that might explain why you know so little.
sounds like you just learned something from me. Congrats! Baby steps
 
I just no longer have words for this, so I'll ask three very serious questions:

First, would someone like to explain what this man did yesterday, holding up Bible and saying "It's a Bible"?

Second, what was the point of that, what was his goal?

Third, do you believe we were witnessing a devout Christian there, holding up a religion's holy book in humble reverence?

Thanks in advance.



First, I'm not sure what sort of explanation you need. Is it that you didn't recognize it until he told you, or that you can't imagine why anyone would hold one?

Second, I'm pretty sure the point would be obvious to anyone who wasn't desperate to find fault with Trump about everything. It was a historic church that was burned by rioters in the nation's capital. As symbolism goes, I'd say that one was about as blatant and clear as it's possible to get.

Third, do you believe that YOU are someone who Trump or anyone else needs to defend their devoutness to, one way or another? The status of Trump's soul is between him and God; you are neither. How about you just take it that he clearly has more respect for Christianity than you do and leave it at that?

There were many Christians who saw this was and were insulted. They don't like their Bible being used as a prop by a salesman to pacify his base.
 
I hold trump to a higher standard than I do the media. The media has always been hyperbolic garbage, that’s baked in. Our elected officials and especially our president don’t get free passes because the media spins. But as I said, once that narrative came out Trump could have easily clarified, or better yet shouldn’t have been trying to detract focus from the horrific killing of a young lady by White suprematists scum. The more I watch how he responded to that situation the more I saw him escalating instead of deescalating. It’s his ego. That’s how he is.


THe media is not spin. THey flat out lied, and it was a horrifically divisive lie.

Trump's behavior in that issue, was nearly perfect. Saying that Trump should have "clarified" to fix the media's lie, is not holding Trump to a higher standard, it is just choosing to side with your side, even when it is clearly in the wrong.

The division in our society, that you are supporting by being a part of, is tearing this country apart.


And is part of the same process that is killing people in the streets right now.



I've seen this coming for quite some time. When you call people "nazis" you are not trying to find a way to work together, but laying the moral justification for the use of violence.


Consider this. It will get worse. Much worse. How many people are you willing to see die, to advance your partisan agenda?
Trumps actions were far from perfect. A woman was killed by a white suprematists after a band of Nazis walked with torches down the streets chanting blood and soil. So when the president speaks speaks about that event he should stay on message and not conflate it with a statue protest to pick a fight with ANTIFA. Some people truly do see the fact that he deflected blame at that moment from the Nazis to change the subject and praise the statue protestors and blame ANTIFA as a racist act. they see it as a cover for the Nazis by minimizing their message. I don’t go that far but I understand the sentiment and Trump doubled down on it by how he then responded.

And I did then and do now correct people who say that he was calling the Nazis very fine people. That has become a dishonest propaganda slogan from the Left and there is no excuse for it


Why is it important to ignore the fact that Antifa was also violent or that some people who were there were there because of a less radical reason?
because the question he was asked wasn’t about that and the focus of the day was regarding a racist who killed a girl. He could talk about the statues and ANTIFA if asked about it or perhaps in a different setting but when emotions are high over a racist killing then the messaging from our leader should be clear. You really don’t understand that? Or how conflating the issues in the way that he did minimizes the actions of the racists?


The murder took place in the context of a riot between Antifa and White Supremacists.

That the questions from the media were designed to give Antifa and others a pass for their share of responsibility for the events, is not a good thing and not something that any President should support.


Nothing in acknowledging that, minimizes the actions of the racists, or the actual murderer.


Unless, you are arguing that White Supremacists are such bad people that they should be given blame for events and actions even beyond what they actually did?


I'm pretty sure that is not your intent, so..... what is?
I watched that presser live as it happened and to hear him take his answer down that road at that time was jaw dropping. I’m fully aware of the timing and context. I agree that discussing ANTIFAs roll is not a bad thing it should be done if they were agitating.... but not then and not how Trump did it.
 
I just no longer have words for this, so I'll ask three very serious questions:

First, would someone like to explain what this man did yesterday, holding up Bible and saying "It's a Bible"?

Second, what was the point of that, what was his goal?

Third, do you believe we were witnessing a devout Christian there, holding up a religion's holy book in humble reverence?

Thanks in advance.



First, I'm not sure what sort of explanation you need. Is it that you didn't recognize it until he told you, or that you can't imagine why anyone would hold one?

Second, I'm pretty sure the point would be obvious to anyone who wasn't desperate to find fault with Trump about everything. It was a historic church that was burned by rioters in the nation's capital. As symbolism goes, I'd say that one was about as blatant and clear as it's possible to get.

Third, do you believe that YOU are someone who Trump or anyone else needs to defend their devoutness to, one way or another? The status of Trump's soul is between him and God; you are neither. How about you just take it that he clearly has more respect for Christianity than you do and leave it at that?

There were many Christians who saw this was and were insulted. They don't like their Bible being used as a prop by a salesman to pacify his base.


Were there? Do you know any? Have you considered that maybe THEY aren't "REAL Christians", whatever the Hell that's supposed to mean?

Last time I checked, Christianity teaches that attempting to decide the state of someone else's soul and relationship to God is a pretty major sin, so anyone claiming to be a Christian and making this statement to you needs to hie himself to the nearest church and get praying for his own soul, and quit worrying about the "realness" of Trump's faith.

Again, Trump's relationship to God is known to him and God; I am neither, and you DEFINITELY are neither. All I need to know is that Trump's concern and respect for MY beliefs is far greater than that provided by any Democrat politician in my lifetime.

Why don't you do everyone an enormous favor and stop trying to tell us what we're supposed to think and feel as though we asked you?
 
I just no longer have words for this, so I'll ask three very serious questions:

First, would someone like to explain what this man did yesterday, holding up Bible and saying "It's a Bible"?

Second, what was the point of that, what was his goal?

Third, do you believe we were witnessing a devout Christian there, holding up a religion's holy book in humble reverence?

Thanks in advance.



First, I'm not sure what sort of explanation you need. Is it that you didn't recognize it until he told you, or that you can't imagine why anyone would hold one?

Second, I'm pretty sure the point would be obvious to anyone who wasn't desperate to find fault with Trump about everything. It was a historic church that was burned by rioters in the nation's capital. As symbolism goes, I'd say that one was about as blatant and clear as it's possible to get.

Third, do you believe that YOU are someone who Trump or anyone else needs to defend their devoutness to, one way or another? The status of Trump's soul is between him and God; you are neither. How about you just take it that he clearly has more respect for Christianity than you do and leave it at that?

There were many Christians who saw this was and were insulted. They don't like their Bible being used as a prop by a salesman to pacify his base.


Were there? Do you know any? Have you considered that maybe THEY aren't "REAL Christians", whatever the Hell that's supposed to mean?

Last time I checked, Christianity teaches that attempting to decide the state of someone else's soul and relationship to God is a pretty major sin, so anyone claiming to be a Christian and making this statement to you needs to hie himself to the nearest church and get praying for his own soul, and quit worrying about the "realness" of Trump's faith.

Again, Trump's relationship to God is known to him and God; I am neither, and you DEFINITELY are neither. All I need to know is that Trump's concern and respect for MY beliefs is far greater than that provided by any Democrat politician in my lifetime.

Why don't you do everyone an enormous favor and stop trying to tell us what we're supposed to think and feel as though we asked you?

My goodness. If you don't like my opinions, tough crap. Sheesh.

The reactions my opinions inspire from you Trumpsters is very satisfying, though.
 
Team Trump never regrets anything

What is to regret? Many in the crowd were violent.

...
At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.
To curtail the violence that was underway, the USPP, following established policy, issued three warnings over a loudspeaker to alert demonstrators on H Street to evacuate the area. Horse mounted patrol, Civil Disturbance Units and additional personnel were used to clear the area.
As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls. USPP officers and other assisting law enforcement partners did not use tear gas or OC Skat Shells to close the area at Lafayette Park. Subsequently, the fence was installed.





A former St. John's minister, Gini Gerbasi, was among those attending to the protesters in front of the church when the police moved in.

"We were literally DRIVEN OFF of the St. John's, Lafayette Square patio with tear gas and concussion grenades and police in full riot gear," she wrote in a Facebook post. "PEOPLE WERE HURT SO THAT [President Trump] COULD HAVE A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH!!! HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO STEP OVER THE MEDICAL SUPPLIES WE LEFT BEHIND BECAUSE WE WERE BEING TEAR GASSED!!!!"
Trump deciding to go over to the historical church that rioters attempted to burn to the ground, and of course this act being in defiance of the rioters who were still occupying the ground in which they thought they had controlled in defiance of the government or police that day, was definitely appropriate. A jesture of strength in the face of anarchy and chaos was exactly what America needed to see, and his holding up the bible in support of the freedom of religion in this country was also appropriate. No anti-American forces foreign or domestic shall seize control of this nation ever. Trump's actions were in jest of this thinking. When rioters tried to burn down the historical church, it was a direct action against our American traditions, and therefore a direct assault on the nation. MAGA.

What an incredible bullshit story! Your whore trump, a notorious liar and coward, just wanted to go over there for a cheap photo-op so he could wave a bible to phony "Christian assholes like graham, fallwell, and jefress, whom are noticeably absent from the protests while so many Christian and non-Christian clergy have participated. This has absolutely nothing to do with "freedom of religion" as no one even interfered with such a right. In fact, the local clergy are incensed at trump's actions. Moreover, "our American traditions" have always included the right to protest.

Is Archbishop Gregory a hypocrite? Here he is with Nancy Pelosi, who advocates abortions.
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No. Do Christians have to agree on every issue? There is no universal agreement about abortion or any other issue. Incidentally, the church at the center of recent events is Episcopalian, not Catholic. Local clergy are perfectly within their rights to object to attacks on other houses of worship within their jurisdictions. BTW: I have never heard her "advocate[] abortions." However, she is pro-choice, which means only that the decision should rest with the pregnant person, not any level of government, politicians, or somebody else's clergy.
Team Trump never regrets anything

What is to regret? Many in the crowd were violent.

...
At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.
To curtail the violence that was underway, the USPP, following established policy, issued three warnings over a loudspeaker to alert demonstrators on H Street to evacuate the area. Horse mounted patrol, Civil Disturbance Units and additional personnel were used to clear the area.
As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls. USPP officers and other assisting law enforcement partners did not use tear gas or OC Skat Shells to close the area at Lafayette Park. Subsequently, the fence was installed.





A former St. John's minister, Gini Gerbasi, was among those attending to the protesters in front of the church when the police moved in.

"We were literally DRIVEN OFF of the St. John's, Lafayette Square patio with tear gas and concussion grenades and police in full riot gear," she wrote in a Facebook post. "PEOPLE WERE HURT SO THAT [President Trump] COULD HAVE A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH!!! HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO STEP OVER THE MEDICAL SUPPLIES WE LEFT BEHIND BECAUSE WE WERE BEING TEAR GASSED!!!!"
Trump deciding to go over to the historical church that rioters attempted to burn to the ground, and of course this act being in defiance of the rioters who were still occupying the ground in which they thought they had controlled in defiance of the government or police that day, was definitely appropriate. A jesture of strength in the face of anarchy and chaos was exactly what America needed to see, and his holding up the bible in support of the freedom of religion in this country was also appropriate. No anti-American forces foreign or domestic shall seize control of this nation ever. Trump's actions were in jest of this thinking. When rioters tried to burn down the historical church, it was a direct action against our American traditions, and therefore a direct assault on the nation. MAGA.

What an incredible bullshit story! Your whore trump, a notorious liar and coward, just wanted to go over there for a cheap photo-op so he could wave a bible to phony "Christian assholes like graham, fallwell, and jefress, whom are noticeably absent from the protests while so many Christian and non-Christian clergy have participated. This has absolutely nothing to do with "freedom of religion" as no one even interfered with such a right. In fact, the local clergy are incensed at trump's actions. Moreover, "our American traditions" have always included the right to protest.

Is Archbishop Gregory a hypocrite? Here he is with Nancy Pelosi, who advocates abortions.
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"advocates" abortions?


would be a lie.

you can't help but lie......because you are a conservative


and human garbage


Pelosi accepts the constitutional right for a woman to CHOOSE.

you are human garbage

Well, you sure are fun.
 
Team Trump never regrets anything

What is to regret? Many in the crowd were violent.

...
At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.
To curtail the violence that was underway, the USPP, following established policy, issued three warnings over a loudspeaker to alert demonstrators on H Street to evacuate the area. Horse mounted patrol, Civil Disturbance Units and additional personnel were used to clear the area.
As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls. USPP officers and other assisting law enforcement partners did not use tear gas or OC Skat Shells to close the area at Lafayette Park. Subsequently, the fence was installed.





A former St. John's minister, Gini Gerbasi, was among those attending to the protesters in front of the church when the police moved in.

"We were literally DRIVEN OFF of the St. John's, Lafayette Square patio with tear gas and concussion grenades and police in full riot gear," she wrote in a Facebook post. "PEOPLE WERE HURT SO THAT [President Trump] COULD HAVE A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH!!! HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO STEP OVER THE MEDICAL SUPPLIES WE LEFT BEHIND BECAUSE WE WERE BEING TEAR GASSED!!!!"
Trump deciding to go over to the historical church that rioters attempted to burn to the ground, and of course this act being in defiance of the rioters who were still occupying the ground in which they thought they had controlled in defiance of the government or police that day, was definitely appropriate. A jesture of strength in the face of anarchy and chaos was exactly what America needed to see, and his holding up the bible in support of the freedom of religion in this country was also appropriate. No anti-American forces foreign or domestic shall seize control of this nation ever. Trump's actions were in jest of this thinking. When rioters tried to burn down the historical church, it was a direct action against our American traditions, and therefore a direct assault on the nation. MAGA.

Trump attacking peaceful protestors is not okay. It was not appropriate. It proves you are a thug. Holding up a bible is a insult. Using the Bible as a political prop. Trump and thugs like you are a direct assault on the nation.
 
Team Trump never regrets anything

What is to regret? Many in the crowd were violent.

...
At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.
To curtail the violence that was underway, the USPP, following established policy, issued three warnings over a loudspeaker to alert demonstrators on H Street to evacuate the area. Horse mounted patrol, Civil Disturbance Units and additional personnel were used to clear the area.
As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls. USPP officers and other assisting law enforcement partners did not use tear gas or OC Skat Shells to close the area at Lafayette Park. Subsequently, the fence was installed.



You are a lying weasel. The protestors were peaceful. All you have is a pack of lies.
 
There is a million things in this world, worth discussing.
Really? How is holding up a Bible, a big deal?
I don't get why this is even an issue worth talking about.
Holding the Bible isn’t the issue. If you don’t know that by now then I can’t help ya

Right, because there is no issue at all. And no, you of all people can't help anyone, let alone me.
Agreed, there is no helping people like you

Sure there is. Just not from someone dumber, and less knowledgeable than me. You have to be the smarter person to help someone else, and for you that simply isn't possible.
Your attempt to insult me caused you to make another idiotic point that isn’t true. We are capable of learning from everybody and every thing we encounter. Not just those who are smarter than us. That was a big swing and a miss. Another lesson that you surely won’t learn anything from. Haha

Not from you, no. I have no idea how I could learn something from someone who knows so much less than me. But if you can learn from those who know less than you... that might explain why you know so little.
sounds like you just learned something from me. Congrats! Baby steps

Yeah. Please, do tell with your enlightened wisdom, what I have learned from you.
 

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