Pro abortionists chant "Hail satan" in response to pro lifer singing Amazing Grace

[CorvusRexus]

If I could push a button and all the people who have ever protested outside an abortion clinic would die, I would do it. And you wouldn't even need to give me the free cable.

Sorry to rally the crowd twice in one day, but we got another Progressives who cracked and admitted his desire to actually carry out their fantasies of genocide. That's 2 Progressives in less than 24 hours on USMB who admitted this.

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Wow. I doubt the left could find two of us saying stuff like that in one day.
Oh. You said some people several times- I see Drifting like 3/4 times.

 

[Pogo]

Obviously history's not your strong suit, Pothead. The poster referred to "civil rights", meaning CRA 1964. So you pulled all pre-'64 people out of your ass. Courageous.

What happens after '64?

Strom Thurmond -- yes.
Trent Lott -- yes.
Jesse Helms -- yes.
Richard Shelby -- yes.
David Duke -- yes.

Google is your friend. And say, for a guy who claims to have no party, you sure devote all your Emmanuel Goldstein erections in one direction.

Just an observation, coincidence I'm sure.

Lying again, Huffer?

Trent Lott switched from demoKKKrat to Republican, right Huffer? Except that he was never a democrat in the first place...

Trent Lott - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

>> Lott was originally a member of the Democrat [sic] Party but switched on the eve of his first campaign in 1972. << (here)

Lying again, Pothead?

Nor was Lott a Segregationist.

"When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we (Mississippians) voted for him. We&#8217;re proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years, either." (your own link)​

Okay, what about Jesse Helms?

Nope, his first run at Senate in 1972 was as a Republican.

Jesse Helms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

>> An unreconstructed Southern conservative, he began his political career in the Democratic Party in the days when many white Southern politicians championed racial segregation and most blacks were disfranchised. He moved to the Republican party in the 1970s << (actually the year 1970, as it says in the sidebar)​

Again ...... your own link. Note the confluence of dates-- 1972... 1970....

Well then, Shelby?

Nope, ran for the Alabama Senate as a Republican in 1970.

Richard Shelby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

>> He was one of the more conservative Democrats in Congress, and a member of the boll weevils, a group of moderate to conservative leaning Democrats who often worked with Republican President Ronald Reagan on defense issues.

... In 1986, Shelby won the Democratic nomination for the Senate seat held by Republican Jeremiah Denton, the first Republican elected to the Senate from Alabama since Reconstruction. He won a very close race as the Democrats regained control of the Senate. He was easily re-elected in 1992 even as Bill Clinton lost Alabama's electoral votes.

On November 9, 1994, Shelby switched his party affiliation to Republican, one day after the Republicans won control of both houses in the midterm elections, giving the Republicans a 53-47 majority in the Senate. <<
​

Yes, once again, all together now...

Your .... Own .... Link ....

Well, at least you have David Duke, the perennial scumbag that he is. And FINALLY you have someone who ran as a democrat.

Except that Duke switch from Republican to democrat.....

Sigh. Once again...

>> In 1988, Duke ran initially in the Democratic presidential primaries. His campaign failed to make much of an impact, with the one notable exception of winning the little-known New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary.[34] Duke, having failed to gain much traction as a Democrat, then successfully sought the Presidential nomination of the Populist Party.[35] He appeared on the ballot for President in eleven states and was a write-in candidate in some other states, some with Trenton Stokes of Arkansas for Vice President, and on other state ballots with Floyd Parker for Vice President. He received just 47,047 votes, for 0.04 percent of the combined, national popular vote.

... In December 1988, Duke changed his political affiliation from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party. <<​

(Wiki, since you didn't provide me a link this time)

I don't just make this shit up, Pothead. On my planet you have to verify.

So that leaves you with Strom Thurmond, the ONLY segregationist to ever switch to the GOP. Hundreds remained democrats, yet y'all LOVE to tell the lie that somehow the positions of the parties changed. That democrats were Republicans and Republicans were democrats, a steaming pile in the best light - but downright stupid when the light of truth is shined on it.

Not the "only" by any stretch --- but the "first". "First" meaning first in the movement as a result of CRA 1964, not that thing in '48. And all of this touches on that GHook tangent conflating "Liberal" with "Democrat", because the term "Democrat" represented vastly different things in the South than elsewhere, in direct ideological opposition within the same party. Southern Dems, the same people who are now Southern Republicans, were conservative, and still are. They weren't getting their conservative fix from Team Blue so they left it and went to Team Red. Which considering the power of longstanding tradition, especially in the conservative mindset, was virtually unthinkable.

Before 1964 the word "Republican" in the deep South was not only rare, it was almost a vulgarity. As was "North". No doubt the DP knew this and strung along these malcontents just for the numbers they provided, even as the party moved in directions their own Southern faction directly opposed. It worked for a couple of decades until Thurmond took the bold move of divorce. It took a few years for others to follow (see above) but eventually once they saw that their emotional attachment of tradition had been silly, they too followed suit.

It took 16 years of intraparty schism for Thurmond to finally take the plunge and do what, in the South I knew as a child, would have been only possible in the Twilight Zone. In the end the ideology held and the political machine changed as practicality dictated. Which is what always happens.

Parties evolve and devolve; ideologies are fixed. The party is a means to power; when party A doesn't suit one's ideology, one moves to Party B. Especially if Party B is handing out free trinkets like "states rights" and, you know, 'saying all the right things' wink wink. That's why it's always so hilarious to watch some wag cherrypick a historical figure from 150, 100 or even 50 years ago and tag them with a label based on their party affiliation --- as if the words "Democrat" and "Republican" mean the same thing now they did then. Hint: they don't.

(/seriously offtopic)

 

[Zmrzlina]

After birth, an infant remains dependent on the mother for survival. I agree that someone here needs an introduction to biology.

Nope. Sure it requires food and nutrients be provided for it but does it require it's mother to be it's host to survive after birth. The answer is no.

Let me ask you, is a fetus a living human?

Nope. Humans are biological independent of a host.

A human fetus is......well, human! It is also alive.... Unless it dies. Are you enjoying making up stuff?

It usually does die without direct support of the host, a woman who has complete dominion of her body, including her womb.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Nope. Sure it requires food and nutrients be provided for it but does it require it's mother to be it's host to survive after birth. The answer is no.

Quite a few infants require the mothers breast milk and cannot digest formula. So again your claim is false.

Further, Premie survival is down to 5 months gestation, so even in this your argument fails. MANY abortions occur after the baby is capable of survival outside the womb.

No medical professional would ever use the term "host," that is a pro-abort buzz-word.

Nope. Humans are biological independent of a host.

Then a DNA test would return what, dog? Hippopotamus?

You make your living from abortion, don't you?

 

[guno]

Jewish law not only permits, but in some circumstances requires abortion. Where the mother's life is in jeopardy because of the unborn child, abortion is mandatory.

An unborn child has the status of "potential human life" until the majority of the body has emerged from the mother. Potential human life is valuable, and may not be terminated casually, but it does not have as much value as a life in existence.

Roman Catholicism and abortion access

Historical abortion beliefs of the Christian church

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Nope. Sure it requires food and nutrients be provided for it but does it require it's mother to be it's host to survive after birth. The answer is no.

Quite a few infants require the mothers breast milk and cannot digest formula. So again your claim is false.

Further, Premie survival is down to 5 months gestation, so even in this your argument fails. MANY abortions occur after the baby is capable of survival outside the womb.

No medical professional would ever use the term "host," that is a pro-abort buzz-word.

Nope. Humans are biological independent of a host.

Then a DNA test would return what, dog? Hippopotamus?

You make your living from abortion, don't you?

He uses the word "host" because it's the gateway towards describing a fetus as a "parasite" which obviously leads to treating pregnancy as a disease, which then allows Progressives to achieve what their Communist brethren have achieved in China - forced abortions.

 

[guno]

Jewish law not only permits, but in some circumstances requires abortion. Where the mother's life is in jeopardy because of the unborn child, abortion is mandatory.

An unborn child has the status of "potential human life" until the majority of the body has emerged from the mother. Potential human life is valuable, and may not be terminated casually, but it does not have as much value as a life in existence.

Roman Catholicism and abortion access

Historical abortion beliefs of the Christian church

Augustine believed that an early abortion is not murder because, according to the Aristotelian concept of delayed ensoulment, the soul of a fetus at an early stage is not present, a belief that passed into canon law.

Thomas Aquinas, Pope Innocent III, and Pope Gregory XIV also believed that a fetus does not have a soul until "quickening," or when the fetus begins to kick and move, and therefore early abortion was not murder, though later abortion was

History of Christian thought on abortion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[GISMYS]

Jewish law not only permits, but in some circumstances requires abortion. Where the mother's life is in jeopardy because of the unborn child, abortion is mandatory.

An unborn child has the status of "potential human life" until the majority of the body has emerged from the mother. Potential human life is valuable, and may not be terminated casually, but it does not have as much value as a life in existence.

Roman Catholicism and abortion access

Historical abortion beliefs of the Christian church

Augustine believed that an early abortion is not murder because, according to the Aristotelian concept of delayed ensoulment, the soul of a fetus at an early stage is not present, a belief that passed into canon law.

Thomas Aquinas, Pope Innocent III, and Pope Gregory XIV also believed that a fetus does not have a soul until "quickening," or when the fetus begins to kick and move, and therefore early abortion was not murder, though later abortion was

History of Christian thought on abortion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Would you want your mother to be told that a few weeks before you were born???

 

[Uncensored2008]

I know that bodily autonomy is a tough subject for some to grasp but you either own your body or you don't.

You don't advocate for suicide here, you advocate for the killing of an independent entity with distinct blood typed and DNA.

Lacking a biological foundation, you do what most zealots do, you bullshit.

 

[Uncensored2008]

After birth, an infant remains dependent on the mother for survival. I agree that someone here needs an introduction to biology.

Nope. Sure it requires food and nutrients be provided for it but does it require it's mother to be it's host to survive after birth. The answer is no.

Let me ask you, is a fetus a living human?

Nope. Humans are biological independent of a host.

A human fetus is......well, human! It is also alive.... Unless it dies. Are you enjoying making up stuff?

You know, sometimes the agenda is too important for facts, so they have to blatantly lie.

 

[BobPlumb]

Nope. Sure it requires food and nutrients be provided for it but does it require it's mother to be it's host to survive after birth. The answer is no.
Nope. Humans are biological independent of a host.

A human fetus is......well, human! It is also alive.... Unless it dies. Are you enjoying making up stuff?

It usually does die without direct support of the host, a woman who has complete dominion of her body, including her womb.

You are starting to come around. In order for a fetus to die it must first be alive.
Likewise the parents/caretakers of newborn infant have domination over their bodies and may leave the newborn infant to die if they so desire.

 

[Pogo]

Close, but not quite.

A "progressive" is someone who doesn't want the Constitution to remain the way it was in 1786, nor the Bill of Rights to remain at all.

This may be the first time anyone's dared to answer that question -- even if it wasn't the poster who invoked it.

On what do you base this? Where have you seen anyone advocating the removal of the Bill of Rights?

Uh, the Hobby Lobby case is entirely about the attempt of the Administration to subvert the 1st Amendment.

The democratic party are engaged in a hot war against the Bill of Rights.

I thought you were defining "Progressive". Now you're on to "the democratic [sic] party" (proper name is capitalized in English). Wtf? Are you abandoning definition then?

I'm not familiar with Hobby Lobby.

 

[Zmrzlina]

Nope. Sure it requires food and nutrients be provided for it but does it require it's mother to be it's host to survive after birth. The answer is no.

Quite a few infants require the mothers breast milk and cannot digest formula. So again your claim is false.

So if the biological mother of a child dies, the child dies as a direct result? Listen to what you are saying. Fetuses require their biological mother's survival for their immediate survival and as a result they require their biological mother's consent for their survival as well.

Further, Premie survival is down to 5 months gestation, so even in this your argument fails. MANY abortions occur after the baby is capable of survival outside the womb.

But it isn't, it is living off the body of an autonomous human being that gets to consent to the fetuses' survival.

No medical professional would ever use the term "host," that is a pro-abort buzz-word.

That's not even remotely true. Read an peer-reviewed sometime, you might actually learn something.

Nope. Humans are biological independent of a host.

Then a DNA test would return what, dog? Hippopotamus?

A DNA test of cancer cells would show human DNA, should there be laws against their removal?

You make your living from abortion, don't you?

No I make most of my money from investments.

 

[Mathbud1]

The living, breathing, person not relying on a host for survival has more rights than a fetus.

I agree with you on that last statement. The innocent and defenseless fetus has no voice and is deprived of the rights of a person post birth. But to deny that a fetus is alive is to deny medical science.

It is unable to live without a host.

And the point when a baby can survive outside its "host" (you know, the person most people call mother) is subject to change based on the technology of the day. What will you say when someone invents an artificial womb that will allow a baby to survive separate from its mother from conception?

 

[sealybobo]

Despite his idiocy, Silly Bonobo demonstrates exactly the attitude of those earlier democrats in the South. It is a callous disregard for life.

If we wonder how the holocaust, purges, and killing fields happened, we need only read the words of Silly Bonobo. The evil of Jim Crow is identical to the evil of the Khmer Rouge, it is ultimately the contempt for life. Jillian and chimp boi demonstrate exactly the same contempt for life here.

Leftism, the desire to strip others of liberty, and concentrate assets in the hands of the central elite, is further manifestation of this same basic contempt for life. The view of the democrats today is identical to the view of the Khmer Rouge, that people are nothing but disposable assets, property of the state, to be disposed of as the state desires. While Jillian may advocate for rights for various groups, as a craftsman will detail the care of various tools, the concept that individuals have rights runs contrary to the view that we are simply cogs, with no value beyond the function we perform in service to the state and the rulers of the state.

I openly call the democrats Communists, and refer to them as the Khmer Rouge, i do this because it is the bitter truth, it is the reality of the party. Abortion is but a manifestation of the basic position of the party that life is without value. A baby is an unformed tool, discarding it has no impact on the workings of the machinery of the state, thus the democrat cannot conceive of objections to disposing of the unwanted without a thought. The reality is that leftist is the rejection of the idea that life has value in it's own right, that man qua man is sufficient.

You do realize the Republicans won over the south when the southern democrats went along with civil rights, right? So in essence those "southern democrats" are today's red neck poor hick southern christians.

Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Even Reagan used racism to win elections

Exclusive: Lee Atwater?s Infamous 1981 Interview on the Southern Strategy | The Nation

Yep reagan announced his run for the presidency in Philadelphia Mississippi (where the three civil rights workers were murdered) and he invoked states rights. and Lee atwater the heasd of the republican party in 1981

The only ones who seem to not know the GOP's history are republican voters.

Great example. Some right wing fool said gas was $1.90 under Bush. They totally forgot that it went over $4 on his watch, which was one of the straws that broke the camels back as far as putting us in an official recession. And it only went down to 1.90 because the oil companies couldn't continue getting $4 out of us. They gouged us as much as they possibly could.

But who wants to remember all the details. Lets just say gas was $1.90 when Bush was in office and hope people forgot the actual facts.

What I wonder is do the Republicans who post these lies know they are lies? Did that guy really believe Bush had gas at $1.90 a gallon? Fucking idiots.

Same for when Republicans brag that it was Lincoln a republican who freed the slaves. Do they really not realize that the GOP today is not the same party that their grandfather's belonged to?

I can't believe they are that ignorant. I think they are intentionally being stupid.

 

[Pogo]

They were conservative, you ignorant.

What part is "conservative," the collectivism, or the totalitarianism?

Look, the "Nazis are right wing" is a long standing "big lie" program, promoted by America's own Goebbles, Edward Murrow. But it's fucking stupid - it makes no logical sense at all. The managed economy of Hitler's Reich is exactly the opposite of "conservative."

Yes, you chant this as a mantra, but to the sentient in the room, it is fucking retarded.

Actually it's fucking history, and it's been beaten to death here by you Revisionistas.

But yes, the hypernationalism and obsession with military, and religion, the constant wistful state longing for the glorious past and the hero figure, the top-down hierarchy, the whole "Kinder, Küche, Kirche" song and dance (expressed by SoCons in English as "family values") -- these are all conservative principles. Not to mention the stratification of classes and demonization of groups deemed subversive to the state, including Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, intellectuals and, all together now... communists, who were in fact the first prisoners at Dachau...

 

[Pogo]

Wasn't this thread about abortion?

I thought it was about Beëlzebub. That's the only reason I showed up.

Actually it was dead -- expired, deceased, passed on and run down the curtain to join the choir invisibule -- until 2A came up with the brilliant idea of bumping it with nothing new in his hand. Good move that was.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Wasn't this thread about abortion?

I thought it was about Beëlzebub. That's the only reason I showed up.

Actually it was dead -- expired, deceased, passed on and run down the curtain to join the choir invisibule -- until 2A came up with the brilliant idea of bumping it with nothing new in his hand. Good move that was.

This event had the strongest impact upon me in my entire political life. I knew that day which side I was on.

 

[Pogo]

You have nothing in common with Jefferson, Adams, Payne, et al. You promote a central authoritarian system of collectivist thought more consistent with Marx, Mao, and Ho.

uh - really. Where do I do that?

As I note later, you personally do not. "You" is often used to denote a group, in this case democrats.

Busted. Liar.

What do I have to do with "democrats" [sic]? You used the word "you", second person, addressed to my post.

Squirm squirm squirm saith the weasel....

Dunno. Did I say that? NO...

Yeah, you pretty much did.

No, I pretty much didn't. Once again, as above, so below:

-- liar.

 

[Avatar4321]

Words to Amazing Grace

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This song teaches people to just cope with their shitty lives here and now in hopes of eternal life after we die. Suckers.

Translation. Was the concept of god that taught me to be a good person and to not worry too much about suffering now or death because heaven awaits. Wishful thinking by some old ignorant ancestors of ours who were very superstitious and gullible.

I once was lost too but now I've woken up to the fact there is no god. No biggy. I didn't suffer the billions of years before I was born I'll be fine when I'm dead.

I believed for many years and no grace appeared.

When did the lord promise you anything? You're reading a book that was written 110 years after Christ. The lord never said nothing to you.

If grace is what got you this far, what got me this far?

Grace did. Just because you don't recognize or acknowledge that grace doesn't mean it doesn't work even in your life to some degree.

The grace of God saves all mankind. Especially the believers.