Proud Boys defend communities from Antifa in Oregon.

The Proud boys protected the community in Portland and Salem.




The SOBs should be arrested, they attacked people who were posing no threat to them. They're no better than ANTIFA.

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It was inevitable that as long as the police decide to let one side go full throttle, the other side would end up with people ready to mix it up.

The police can end this by ending any protest that goes riot the SECOND it goes over the line.

People who want no part of the riot are given a chance to leave, and if they don't they get scooped up as part of the remnant staying behind.



Don't try to excuse unprovoked violence, it's not right on either side.

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Antifa provoked the Proud Boys. Rioting needs to be stopped by any means necessary.



Really, I didn't see it in the video. We have law enforcement to stop riots, civilians need to stay out of the mix unless directly threatened. Someone standing 20 feet away and running their mouth is NOT a threat.

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The Proud boys protected the community in Portland and Salem.




The SOBs should be arrested, they attacked people who were posing no threat to them. They're no better than ANTIFA.

.


It was inevitable that as long as the police decide to let one side go full throttle, the other side would end up with people ready to mix it up.

The police can end this by ending any protest that goes riot the SECOND it goes over the line.

People who want no part of the riot are given a chance to leave, and if they don't they get scooped up as part of the remnant staying behind.



Don't try to excuse unprovoked violence, it's not right on either side.

.

Antifa provoked the Proud Boys. Rioting needs to be stopped by any means necessary.



Really, I didn't see it in the video. We have law enforcement to stop riots, civilians need to stay out of the mix unless directly threatened. Someone standing 20 feet away and running their mouth is NOT a threat.

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1. We don't have law enforcement to stop riots, that's why we need lots of volunteers.
2. Antifa does more than run their mouths, they murdered a Trump supporter, blinded law enforcement officers with lasers, committed arson, destroyed businesses and government buildings, and their democrat sponsors stop cops from protecting the citizens from the radical anarchists.
 
I prefer Antifa videos like this one. Short, sweet, and no words necessary. The "CLONG" provides all of the necessary context. Watch the Antifa toughguy scurry away under the fence like a cockroach after getting his clock cleaned. LOL



This one got my vote.

I don't like these clashes.

They both want at each other. They are just looking for an excuse.

We should let them pick the best 50 on each side, have a last man standing fight and sell tickets.

Sooner or later someone will pull out a gun and drop 10 people....then it goes crazy.
 
The Proud boys protected the community in Portland and Salem.




The SOBs should be arrested, they attacked people who were posing no threat to them. They're no better than ANTIFA.

.


It was inevitable that as long as the police decide to let one side go full throttle, the other side would end up with people ready to mix it up.

The police can end this by ending any protest that goes riot the SECOND it goes over the line.

People who want no part of the riot are given a chance to leave, and if they don't they get scooped up as part of the remnant staying behind.



Don't try to excuse unprovoked violence, it's not right on either side.

.

Antifa provoked the Proud Boys. Rioting needs to be stopped by any means necessary.



Really, I didn't see it in the video. We have law enforcement to stop riots, civilians need to stay out of the mix unless directly threatened. Someone standing 20 feet away and running their mouth is NOT a threat.

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1. We don't have law enforcement to stop riots, that's why we need lots of volunteers.
2. Antifa does more than run their mouths, they murdered a Trump supporter, blinded law enforcement officers with lasers, committed arson, destroyed businesses and government buildings, and their democrat sponsors stop cops from protecting the citizens from the radical anarchists.


Just a few questions:
How many people are in Antifa?
Where are their Headquaters?
Who is in charge?
 
But you see unlike the Dems they did not beat the shit out of this guy 10 on 1 they just pushed him around a bit and made fun of him. And sure funny this mild assault had 100 cops respond to it but the real violence happens every day and not a cop in sight.
 
I prefer Antifa videos like this one. Short, sweet, and no words necessary. The "CLONG" provides all of the necessary context. Watch the Antifa toughguy scurry away under the fence like a cockroach after getting his clock cleaned. LOL



This one got my vote.

I don't like these clashes.

They both want at each other. They are just looking for an excuse.

We should let them pick the best 50 on each side, have a last man standing fight and sell tickets.

Sooner or later someone will pull out a gun and drop 10 people....then it goes crazy.

Lol Dems would not want that. Would have to make it like 10 from Rep side and 50 from dem side to be a fair fight.
 
The Proud boys protected the community in Portland and Salem.




The SOBs should be arrested, they attacked people who were posing no threat to them. They're no better than ANTIFA.

.


It was inevitable that as long as the police decide to let one side go full throttle, the other side would end up with people ready to mix it up.

The police can end this by ending any protest that goes riot the SECOND it goes over the line.

People who want no part of the riot are given a chance to leave, and if they don't they get scooped up as part of the remnant staying behind.

That is not as easy as you make it sound. Portland has a relatively small police force with less officers per thousand residents than most cities it's size. Considering that protests have been going on in Portland for over 3 months, with multiple protests often in different locations during the same day, putting large numbers of police monitoring every protests is not possible while still providing police protection for over 600,000 people in the city. It's hard to determine exactly how many protests have occurred in the last 3 months because they often merge but it is safe to say that there have been hundreds and only a small percentage have turned into riots with serious injuries or property damage.

Of the thousands of protest marches in the US with over 26 million participates, 31 people have died, only one was in Portland.



Sorry to say US cops aren't equipped or trained to handle protests especially if they turn rowdy and then violent.

Just equipment alone, where are the:
  • Water Cannons
  • Cameras (Drones, Hand Held....)
Europe has loads of experience of this type of disturbances (Northern Ireland, French Riots, Football Holigans,....). US Police look like amateurs, $2m in damage (thats next to nothing), film everyone hours before and while going on with drones and then pick them up later... Do that once and there be no more of that crap...
Contain the trouble makers, simple stuff... Northern Ireland are the best rioters and thus the PSNI (Police) are the best on the other side...
 
The Proud boys protected the community in Portland and Salem.




The SOBs should be arrested, they attacked people who were posing no threat to them. They're no better than ANTIFA.

.


It was inevitable that as long as the police decide to let one side go full throttle, the other side would end up with people ready to mix it up.

The police can end this by ending any protest that goes riot the SECOND it goes over the line.

People who want no part of the riot are given a chance to leave, and if they don't they get scooped up as part of the remnant staying behind.



Don't try to excuse unprovoked violence, it's not right on either side.

.

Antifa provoked the Proud Boys. Rioting needs to be stopped by any means necessary.



Really, I didn't see it in the video. We have law enforcement to stop riots, civilians need to stay out of the mix unless directly threatened. Someone standing 20 feet away and running their mouth is NOT a threat.

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1. We don't have law enforcement to stop riots, that's why we need lots of volunteers.
2. Antifa does more than run their mouths, they murdered a Trump supporter, blinded law enforcement officers with lasers, committed arson, destroyed businesses and government buildings, and their democrat sponsors stop cops from protecting the citizens from the radical anarchists.



That has nothing to do with this thread, I'm commenting on the video in the OP, it's not in Portland.

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LOLing at those who think fighting back is bad.
Read that sentence again. Fighting back. There wouldn't be a problem if antifa/blm stopped attacking people and businesses.
 
"The only places where white privilege is truly on display are lily-white, left-wing redoubts like Seattle, Kenosha, Wisconsin, and Portland, Oregon. The latter was recently described by the New York Times as “one of the whitest big cities in America.” In these pale cities, white anarchists are permitted to commit arson, vandalism, assault and even murder with abandon.

Why no antifa activity in mostly black cities, like Baltimore, Ferguson, Missouri, or Chicago?

Evidently, these bad-ass antifa are too afraid to riot in any majority black cities. They claim to be destroying public and private property on behalf of their black brethren, but are terrified of being around actual black people.

White antifa have been rioting in Portland (super white!) for more than three months now. On the rare occasion when they get arrested, they’re immediately released, often bailed out with funds provided by white celebrities like Seth Rogen, Abbi Jacobson and Steve Carell."
 
The Proud boys protected the community in Portland and Salem.




The SOBs should be arrested, they attacked people who were posing no threat to them. They're no better than ANTIFA.

.


It was inevitable that as long as the police decide to let one side go full throttle, the other side would end up with people ready to mix it up.

The police can end this by ending any protest that goes riot the SECOND it goes over the line.

People who want no part of the riot are given a chance to leave, and if they don't they get scooped up as part of the remnant staying behind.



Don't try to excuse unprovoked violence, it's not right on either side.

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It's not excusing it, it's explaining how it happens. Lack of control encourages both sides to take it to the streets, but the left was in the streets first and are the ones targeting the government and civilians.

I don't feel the same anger at right wing counter rioters, not because they are right wing, but because they are only targeting people who are ready and willing participants.



You still don't attack people who are not posing a threat to you, that's exactly what the video in the OP shows. Street violence can only be justified in cases of self defense.

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Agreed. however we all know videos can be edited to show a retaliating party as an aggressor. Just ask any hockey referee how that works.
 
The Proud boys protected the community in Portland and Salem.




The SOBs should be arrested, they attacked people who were posing no threat to them. They're no better than ANTIFA.

.


It was inevitable that as long as the police decide to let one side go full throttle, the other side would end up with people ready to mix it up.

The police can end this by ending any protest that goes riot the SECOND it goes over the line.

People who want no part of the riot are given a chance to leave, and if they don't they get scooped up as part of the remnant staying behind.


They don't take that shit to portland, they get shot

That's why tehy're in salem where no one else is


Yes, big brave sucker-punching and shooting anti-fa.

One on one you are all a bunch of pussies.
 
The Proud boys protected the community in Portland and Salem.




The SOBs should be arrested, they attacked people who were posing no threat to them. They're no better than ANTIFA.

.


It was inevitable that as long as the police decide to let one side go full throttle, the other side would end up with people ready to mix it up.

The police can end this by ending any protest that goes riot the SECOND it goes over the line.

People who want no part of the riot are given a chance to leave, and if they don't they get scooped up as part of the remnant staying behind.



Don't try to excuse unprovoked violence, it's not right on either side.

.

Antifa provoked the Proud Boys. Rioting needs to be stopped by any means necessary.



Really, I didn't see it in the video. We have law enforcement to stop riots, civilians need to stay out of the mix unless directly threatened. Someone standing 20 feet away and running their mouth is NOT a threat.

.

1. We don't have law enforcement to stop riots, that's why we need lots of volunteers.
2. Antifa does more than run their mouths, they murdered a Trump supporter, blinded law enforcement officers with lasers, committed arson, destroyed businesses and government buildings, and their democrat sponsors stop cops from protecting the citizens from the radical anarchists.


Just a few questions:
How many people are in Antifa?
Where are their Headquaters?
Who is in charge?


Yes, because asking for the headquarters of an intentionally cell based organized movement shows they don't exist.....

Stop trying to be slick you fucking moron.
 
The Proud boys protected the community in Portland and Salem.




The SOBs should be arrested, they attacked people who were posing no threat to them. They're no better than ANTIFA.

.


It was inevitable that as long as the police decide to let one side go full throttle, the other side would end up with people ready to mix it up.

The police can end this by ending any protest that goes riot the SECOND it goes over the line.

People who want no part of the riot are given a chance to leave, and if they don't they get scooped up as part of the remnant staying behind.

That is not as easy as you make it sound. Portland has a relatively small police force with less officers per thousand residents than most cities it's size. Considering that protests have been going on in Portland for over 3 months, with multiple protests often in different locations during the same day, putting large numbers of police monitoring every protests is not possible while still providing police protection for over 600,000 people in the city. It's hard to determine exactly how many protests have occurred in the last 3 months because they often merge but it is safe to say that there have been hundreds and only a small percentage have turned into riots with serious injuries or property damage.

Of the thousands of protest marches in the US with over 26 million participates, 31 people have died, only one was in Portland.



Sorry to say US cops aren't equipped or trained to handle protests especially if they turn rowdy and then violent.

Just equipment alone, where are the:
  • Water Cannons
  • Cameras (Drones, Hand Held....)
Europe has loads of experience of this type of disturbances (Northern Ireland, French Riots, Football Holigans,....). US Police look like amateurs, $2m in damage (thats next to nothing), film everyone hours before and while going on with drones and then pick them up later... Do that once and there be no more of that crap...
Contain the trouble makers, simple stuff... Northern Ireland are the best rioters and thus the PSNI (Police) are the best on the other side...


Water as a control method in the US is a no go, brings back too many memories of its use during the civil rights protests, when actual peaceful marches were broken up with it.
 
The Proud boys protected the community in Portland and Salem.




The SOBs should be arrested, they attacked people who were posing no threat to them. They're no better than ANTIFA.

.


It was inevitable that as long as the police decide to let one side go full throttle, the other side would end up with people ready to mix it up.

The police can end this by ending any protest that goes riot the SECOND it goes over the line.

People who want no part of the riot are given a chance to leave, and if they don't they get scooped up as part of the remnant staying behind.



Don't try to excuse unprovoked violence, it's not right on either side.

.

Antifa provoked the Proud Boys. Rioting needs to be stopped by any means necessary.



Really, I didn't see it in the video. We have law enforcement to stop riots, civilians need to stay out of the mix unless directly threatened. Someone standing 20 feet away and running their mouth is NOT a threat.

.

1. We don't have law enforcement to stop riots, that's why we need lots of volunteers.
2. Antifa does more than run their mouths, they murdered a Trump supporter, blinded law enforcement officers with lasers, committed arson, destroyed businesses and government buildings, and their democrat sponsors stop cops from protecting the citizens from the radical anarchists.


Just a few questions:
How many people are in Antifa?
Where are their Headquaters?
Who is in charge?


How many people are in Antifa? Too many
Where are their Headquaters? Next to their head dimes
Who is in charge? Anarchists don't have anyone in charge, that's why they're called "anarchists".
 
The Proud boys protected the community in Portland and Salem.




The SOBs should be arrested, they attacked people who were posing no threat to them. They're no better than ANTIFA.

.


It was inevitable that as long as the police decide to let one side go full throttle, the other side would end up with people ready to mix it up.

The police can end this by ending any protest that goes riot the SECOND it goes over the line.

People who want no part of the riot are given a chance to leave, and if they don't they get scooped up as part of the remnant staying behind.

That is not as easy as you make it sound. Portland has a relatively small police force with less officers per thousand residents than most cities it's size. Considering that protests have been going on in Portland for over 3 months, with multiple protests often in different locations during the same day, putting large numbers of police monitoring every protests is not possible while still providing police protection for over 600,000 people in the city. It's hard to determine exactly how many protests have occurred in the last 3 months because they often merge but it is safe to say that there have been hundreds and only a small percentage have turned into riots with serious injuries or property damage.

Of the thousands of protest marches in the US with over 26 million participates, 31 people have died, only one was in Portland.



it doesn't help to play catch and release and refuse to prosecute. And spare me the "most are peaceful" bullshit. Violence is violence, and the bonus is that the violent ones hide behind the non-violent ones (many who know exactly what type of cover they are giving to the rioters) and then claim "It was peaceful"

Sorry, your bullshit doesn't spread here.

In most of the arrests, catch and release is only option because the district attorney's office does not have the staff to handle all the cases or there is serious lack evidence, often both. The most common arrests are for interfering with the police, disorderly conduct and trespassing, all misdemeanors that typical involve no jail time. There have been only a few arrests for property crimes because most the property crimes are committed by only a few people.

The two most important thing to understand about riots and protests in Portland is they are very common and the public tends to be very supportive. The very first protest in Portland occurred only days after the city was founded and the first major riot only 5 years after the founding. Since then protests and riots have occurred far more often than any city it's size. When I lived there a few years ago there was some kind of demonstration or protest almost everyday and some violence was not uncommon and every so often there would riot but no one seem to be very disturbed. In fact, the one most disturbing thing for Portlanders is stopping the protests. Although Portlanders are about evenly divided on demilitarizing the police, they overwhelming supportive the protests. As one person said, It wouldn't be Portland without the demonstrations and occasional riots.
 
The Proud boys protected the community in Portland and Salem.




The SOBs should be arrested, they attacked people who were posing no threat to them. They're no better than ANTIFA.

.


It was inevitable that as long as the police decide to let one side go full throttle, the other side would end up with people ready to mix it up.

The police can end this by ending any protest that goes riot the SECOND it goes over the line.

People who want no part of the riot are given a chance to leave, and if they don't they get scooped up as part of the remnant staying behind.



Don't try to excuse unprovoked violence, it's not right on either side.

.

Antifa provoked the Proud Boys. Rioting needs to be stopped by any means necessary.



Really, I didn't see it in the video. We have law enforcement to stop riots, civilians need to stay out of the mix unless directly threatened. Someone standing 20 feet away and running their mouth is NOT a threat.

.

Nice to see we can agree on something. Well said.
 

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