Question about Noah.

[Taz]

So Randy, where's all my proof of god you were supposed to give me?

 

[Hollie]

This is not the thread for proselytizing.

Still looking up random words to answer the first question? You remember? The first question?, the one you are still dodging.

Come on, Hollow. Make up something. Anything. Just don't keep acting like you don't hear me. Makes you look stupid. We don't want you to make yourself look stupid, do we?

Ah, a name caller. That adds credibility to your posts.

Please, please, please, do not play the victim here. At least walk away with dignity.

You're getting desperate.

Where is the evidence for the Ark tales? Your childish name- calling diminishes you, not me.

You tried to jump on this track to get out of answering the first question once already. I think let you chase your own tail for a while. You are boring me.

So, are we to assume that you've abandoned any attempt to provide credible evidence for Ark tales?

 

[the_human_being]

There is archaeological evidence that there was a worldwide flood.

Evidence for Rapid Washout Catastrophic Flood Washouts
Geologists have been forced to admit to catastrophic formation of some of the great landscape scars that occur on every continent. In many cases, geologists have even had their definitions and concept of land formation proven questionable.

Soft Rock Catastrophic Flood Model
another feature often seen in rockstratais extensive folding. The flood model can explain this as contortion induced in soft material during an earthquake or upheaval of a portion of the earth. If each of the layers was hard to begin with it would be impossible for folding such as this to take place.
These examples are anomalies that weaken the evolutionary theory. The Flood model looks more plausible when we study the evidence objectively.

From the "about" section at your link:

"We are committed to sharing the truth about God and His promises. Amazing Discoveries™ began as a way for us to further spread this truth."

So yeah, at the bias is announced.

Can you link to peer reviewed papers published by AD?

No? So once again, this is just a thread for thumping, right?

New Evidence Suggests Biblical Great Flood of Noah s Time Happened Archaeologist Says - ABC News
https://www.icr.org/i/pdf/technical...r-a-Recent-Global-Flood-and-a-Young-Earth.pdf
Just Whose Science Is Todd Wood Stopping Uncommon Descent


Archaeological Science
There is a worldwide tradition among natives of a global flood.
According to current archaeological evidence, civilization appears to have originated in the Ararat/Babylon region.
The genealogical records of many of the European kings can be traced back to Japheth, son of Noah.
An analysis of population growth statistics confirms that there was zero population at the estimated time of the end of the flood. This indicates the global demise of humans by Noah's flood.
Human palaeontological evidence exists even in the earliest geologic 'ages' ( human footprints in Cambrian, Carboniferous, and Cretaceous rocks). If the layers of rock were laid down by a global flood and then interpreted as evolutionary long-ages, human remains and artifact's would appear to be in such positions.
The most ancient human artefacts date to the post-flood era. This indicates that the earlier hardware could have been buried beyond reach by a huge flood.
Calculations have shown that there is nearly the same amount of organic material present today, worldwide, as there would have been if all the fossils were still alive. This indicates the demise of all living things in a single global event.
Palaeontological evidence indicates that the early earth had a warm/humid climate. This is consistent with the destruction of the old atmosphere by the processes of a global flood as described in Genesis.
The glacial period started very quickly. This would require a cataclysmic event such as a global flood to trigger such a rapid climatic change.
Similar geologic formations exist in rocks of all ages ( rifts, folds, faults, thrusts, etc.). These can just as easily be explained as being created in the same cataclysmic global event.
Studies show that much of the world's folded beds of sediment have no compression fractures, indicating that they were contorted while they were still wet and soft. For this to occur on a global scale, and on sediment thousands of metres thick, it would have required a catastrophic global flood.
Rocks of different geologic 'ages' have similar physical features indicating that they could have been created by a single worldwide event - such as a global flood.
There is an absence of physical evidence that indicates a time change between rocks of 'successive ages'. Sedimentary rock layers worldwide appear to have been laid down very quickly, as by a global flood.
Globally, there is an almost complete absence of any evidence of animal and plant root activity within the tiny layers of sediment. Slowly deposited layers should show this activity, flood deposits wouldn't.
All types of rocks (limestone, shale, granite, etc) occur in all geologic 'ages'. This indicates a common formation on a global scale - the situation that would have been created by the mixing of sediment in a global flood.
Many geological processes have a recent geological date. If the long-age evolutionary time scale is ignored, these processes would have occurred in the very recent past - as a result of the flood cataclysm.
Recent volcanic rocks are distributed widely. (see last point above)
There is a lack of correlation between radiometric 'ages' and assumed palaeontological 'ages' . A global flood could easily create an illusion of geologic 'ages'. The consequent conflict between dating methods confirms the illusion.
Fossil 'graveyards' are found worldwide, and in rocks of all 'ages'. Only a catastrophic global flood could achieve this.
The burial of fossil deposits worldwide had to have occurred in a catastrophic event. Only massive flooding could bury in such a fashion.
Marine fossils can be found on the crests of mountains. Apart from mountain uplifting, this can also be explained as the marine animals being washed there and then buried. A global flood could do this.
There is a worldwide distribution of most of the fossil types, indicating transportation on a global scale by a global flood.
Fossils from different 'ages' are often found mixed. This indicates a huge mixing of animal bones that is not consistent with a local flood.
Worldwide, fossils from different 'ages' are often found in the wrong order. This indicates a global mixing of fossils as a consequence of a global flood.
Supposed evolutionary fossil sequences often parallel the ecological zonation that occurs today . If a global flood mixed organisms from different areas, it would create the illusion of a fossil sequence over time.
Dinosaurs and many other prehistoric creatures died out suddenly (Fact). A catastrophe such as a global flood could have produced this result. The theory of a meteorite as well as a flood are both scientific theories and one or the other should not be ignored.
Polystrate fossils ( vertical fossil tree trunks) that are found worldwide indicate turbulent or rapid deposition. A global flood would be required to do this worldwide.
Polystrate fossils also form when water-logged timber sinks in a large body of water. A year long global flood could produce worldwide polystrate fossils formed in this way.
Animal tracks and other ephemeral markings (ripple-marks and raindrop imprints) have been preserved throughout the geological column. Rapid covering of these markings is required for this preservation worldwide - by a global flood.
Meteorites are basically absent from the geologic column. With the large number of meteorites hitting the earth each year, they should be very plentiful throughout the sedimentary rocks - unless much of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down in one year.
Sedimentary rocks contain fossil ripple-marks and raindrop imprints, but no hail imprints. A global flood (with associated rain), that was not caused by storms would not leave hail imprint marks.
Some desert areas show evidence of 'recent' water bodies. Water from a recent global flood would remain in large pools (bodies of water) for some time before evaporating.
There is evidence of a recent drastic rise in sea level. A global flood could easily have created this feature.
Raised shorelines are found worldwide indicating a time when the world had a different sea level. A consistent interpretation of this is that a global flood altered the levels of the oceans and seas.
Mountain-high water level marks found throughout the world are consistent with the recession of a global flood.
River terraces are found worldwide.
There is a universal occurrence of rivers in valleys too large for the present stream. Slow erosion over millions of years could not have created these valleys as the mountains would have eroded, keeping pace with the valley erosion. The drainage of global floodwaters from the land surface could easily create such wide valleys in a short period of time.
Only modern sediments show any evidence of surface drainage systems. If the majority of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down by a global flood there would not be any sign of drainage erosion except for the top layers eroded during the recession of the flood waters off the land.
Hydrologic evidence points to the rapid deposition of sedimentary rock layers. Therefore, the thousand's of metres of sediment must have been deposited by a catastrophic global flood.
Hydrologic evidence points to the world's sedimentary rocks being deposited in one continuous episode. All the layers could have been laid down by a single event, such as a global flood.
Hydrologic experiments show that flowing sediment automatically settles out in distinct layers. Therefore, sedimentary rock layers can be just as easily explained as flood debris, as slow deposition.
There is a worldwide occurrence of deep alluvial deposits and sedimentary rocks consistent with a huge global flood.
There is a near-random deposition of formational sequences.
Nowhere in the world is it possible to see the complete geologic column as a single structure. It is always found in bits and pieces, and mostly with pieces missing. Globally, a worldwide flood could create the illusion of a geologic column.
The oldest organisms still alive on Earth today, the Californian Redwoods, Sequoias and Bristlecone Pines, are around 3,000-4,000 years old. Nothing is older that the date of Noah's flood.

There is plenty of Archaeological evidence for the flood. As for a young earth I am still not convenced of a young earth science. So don't try to paint me as a young Earth believer like you tried to do in a earlier discussion that we had. I believe that the Earth is billions of years old.
I put the links that have carbon dating changes and challenges even though they are scientist's of a young earth. Their science discoveries should not be ignored like the mainstream who are also biased. The mainstream do not want to believe that there is a Creator and when evidence does prove it, it's buried in the college and science buildings basements and or put in the shelves and drawers to be ignored.
There is plenty of scientific evidence on both sides of a Global Flooding.

Excellent post Peach. I saw a movie on all of this as well as on the formation of the Grand Canyon. What really got to me though was those trees buried upright without having any roots. The is far more coal throughout the world right now even though we have bUnlike many people, een mining it for years than could be produced were all the trees currently present in todays world to be buried. For anyone who claims to believe in science to deny that something very major happened is laughable.

And of course, you know with certainty that:
"The is far more coal throughout the world right now even though we have been mining it for years than could be produced were all the trees currently present in todays world to be buried"

Well, because you just know those things.

Yes Hollie. I actually research a lot of different things. I may be getting on in age but I have never stopped learning. Unlike many people who upon obtaining a college education with a major in ONE subject and immediately conclude that they alone know it all, I continue to search.

 

[PostmodernProph]

did you know there were significant differences between copies of the Gilgamesh story dating from before the Jewish captivity and those dated afterwards?......

actually, there is no such requirement....and if you're going to insist on Biblical literalism, tell me how many people had to drown if Noah lived only 23 'generations' after Adam.....

why would we need a global flood to drown 10,000 to 20,000 people?....

There was no flood as described in the bibles.

were you there?.....did you sleep through it?....

Is it possible for you to read the thread discussion and offer a relevant comment?

It's just pitiable that you YEC'ists will insist your bible tales and fables are true and inerrant Yet we both know that there is not a shred of credible evidence to support such absurdities.

/shrugs...the only possible comment relevant to your posts is that you don't know what you're talking about and have to lie about others to have something to post......even then, its merely repetitive......

So was it a global flood or not? And how do we know that Noah was 600 years old?

it was wide spread enough to kill all the human beings not on the ark........did it touch the top of Mt Everest?......no.......

 

[PostmodernProph]

Problems with denying the occurance of a flood....

And if you want flood tales, everyone has 'em.

Flood Stories from Around the World

 

[PostmodernProph]

Ok. I'll play along. Can we agree that sources other than the bibles can be used to critique biblical claims?

Super!

Problems with a Global Flood 2nd edition


And if you want flood tales, everyone has 'em.

Flood Stories from Around the World

First question please.

Yes. Stop sidestepping the first question you were directed to respond to.

?

That's hardly an answer.

Now you are just slipping into stupid.

she started out knee deep........

 

[Hollie]

There was no flood as described in the bibles.

were you there?.....did you sleep through it?....

Is it possible for you to read the thread discussion and offer a relevant comment?

It's just pitiable that you YEC'ists will insist your bible tales and fables are true and inerrant Yet we both know that there is not a shred of credible evidence to support such absurdities.

/shrugs...the only possible comment relevant to your posts is that you don't know what you're talking about and have to lie about others to have something to post......even then, its merely repetitive......

So was it a global flood or not? And how do we know that Noah was 600 years old?

it was wide spread enough to kill all the human beings not on the ark........did it touch the top of Mt Everest?......no.......

You YEC'ists are a hoot.

 

[Hollie]

First question please.

Yes. Stop sidestepping the first question you were directed to respond to.

?

That's hardly an answer.

Now you are just slipping into stupid.

she started out knee deep........

And you're just angry because you can't string words into coherent sentences.

So tell us about dinosaurs on Noah's pleasure cruise.

 

[PostmodernProph]

were you there?.....did you sleep through it?....

Is it possible for you to read the thread discussion and offer a relevant comment?

It's just pitiable that you YEC'ists will insist your bible tales and fables are true and inerrant Yet we both know that there is not a shred of credible evidence to support such absurdities.

/shrugs...the only possible comment relevant to your posts is that you don't know what you're talking about and have to lie about others to have something to post......even then, its merely repetitive......

So was it a global flood or not? And how do we know that Noah was 600 years old?

it was wide spread enough to kill all the human beings not on the ark........did it touch the top of Mt Everest?......no.......

You YEC'ists are a hoot.

you no longer are......you're just a tiresome troll with no imagination.......

 

[Hollie]

Problems with denying the occurance of a flood....

And if you want flood tales, everyone has 'em.

Flood Stories from Around the World

The only problem is you YEC'ists being unable to document a global flood just 4,000 years ago.

You can't.

 

[PostmodernProph]

Yes. Stop sidestepping the first question you were directed to respond to.

?

That's hardly an answer.

Now you are just slipping into stupid.

she started out knee deep........

And you're just angry because you can't string words into coherent sentences.

So tell us about dinosaurs on Noah's pleasure cruise.

come up with some new material or I just repeat "you're just a tiresome troll with no imagination".......

 

[PostmodernProph]

Problems with denying the occurance of a flood....

And if you want flood tales, everyone has 'em.

Flood Stories from Around the World

The only problem is you YEC'ists being unable to document a global flood just 4,000 years ago.

You can't.

you're just a tiresome troll with no imagination.......

 

[Hollie]

Is it possible for you to read the thread discussion and offer a relevant comment?

It's just pitiable that you YEC'ists will insist your bible tales and fables are true and inerrant Yet we both know that there is not a shred of credible evidence to support such absurdities.

/shrugs...the only possible comment relevant to your posts is that you don't know what you're talking about and have to lie about others to have something to post......even then, its merely repetitive......

So was it a global flood or not? And how do we know that Noah was 600 years old?

it was wide spread enough to kill all the human beings not on the ark........did it touch the top of Mt Everest?......no.......

You YEC'ists are a hoot.

you no longer are......you're just a tiresome troll with no imagination.......

You're angry. I understand challenges to your Ark tales causes you such angst but why get pissy with me when I'm just trying to educate you to the folly of YEC'ism?

 

[PostmodernProph]

/shrugs...the only possible comment relevant to your posts is that you don't know what you're talking about and have to lie about others to have something to post......even then, its merely repetitive......

So was it a global flood or not? And how do we know that Noah was 600 years old?

it was wide spread enough to kill all the human beings not on the ark........did it touch the top of Mt Everest?......no.......

You YEC'ists are a hoot.

you no longer are......you're just a tiresome troll with no imagination.......

You're angry. I understand challenges to your Ark tales causes you such angst but why get pissy with me when I'm just trying to educate you to the folly of YEC'ism?

you're just a tiresome troll with no imagination.......

 

[Hollie]

?

That's hardly an answer.

Now you are just slipping into stupid.

she started out knee deep........

And you're just angry because you can't string words into coherent sentences.

So tell us about dinosaurs on Noah's pleasure cruise.

come up with some new material or I just repeat "you're just a tiresome troll with no imagination".......

Repeat whatever you want. It won't hide your inability to address a single, salient made in contention to your Ark tales.

 

[Hollie]

So was it a global flood or not? And how do we know that Noah was 600 years old?

it was wide spread enough to kill all the human beings not on the ark........did it touch the top of Mt Everest?......no.......

You YEC'ists are a hoot.

you no longer are......you're just a tiresome troll with no imagination.......

You're angry. I understand challenges to your Ark tales causes you such angst but why get pissy with me when I'm just trying to educate you to the folly of YEC'ism?

you're just a tiresome troll with no imagination.......

Well, you're the just repeating tiresome slogans. Most 12 year olds could make better arguments than repeating tired slogans

 

[The Irish Ram]

Never assume. We'll just have to look and see if any books other than the Bible corroborate what the Bible tells us.....

 

[Taz]

There was no flood as described in the bibles.

were you there?.....did you sleep through it?....

Is it possible for you to read the thread discussion and offer a relevant comment?

It's just pitiable that you YEC'ists will insist your bible tales and fables are true and inerrant Yet we both know that there is not a shred of credible evidence to support such absurdities.

/shrugs...the only possible comment relevant to your posts is that you don't know what you're talking about and have to lie about others to have something to post......even then, its merely repetitive......

So was it a global flood or not? And how do we know that Noah was 600 years old?

it was wide spread enough to kill all the human beings not on the ark........did it touch the top of Mt Everest?......no.......

So where did the chinks, spooks, pigmies, bush people... Come from if they weren't on the ark?

 

[Hollie]

Never assume. We'll just have to look and see if any books other than the Bible corroborate what the Bible tells us.....

Ignorance is bliss.

 

[peach174]

There was no flood as described in the bibles.

were you there?.....did you sleep through it?....

Is it possible for you to read the thread discussion and offer a relevant comment?

It's just pitiable that you YEC'ists will insist your bible tales and fables are true and inerrant Yet we both know that there is not a shred of credible evidence to support such absurdities.

/shrugs...the only possible comment relevant to your posts is that you don't know what you're talking about and have to lie about others to have something to post......even then, its merely repetitive......

So was it a global flood or not? And how do we know that Noah was 600 years old?

it was wide spread enough to kill all the human beings not on the ark........did it touch the top of Mt Everest?......no.......

Yes it did.
The Mathisen Corollary Crinoids on Mount Everest

Crinoids on Mount Everest?
Crinoid fossils and other marine fossils have been found on top of almost every mountain range on earth. In fact, crinoid fossils have even been found at the summit of Mount Everest, the highest point on earth.