Question about Noah.

[Hollie]

Such thinking is harmful to humanity. There's no reason to conclude that any gods are going to return to earth in some climactic battle. And as time goes by, and gods don't return to this earth, as gods don't prove salvation, religions will fade. We already see it happening as people revise their religions or re-write them as they go.

But hey, why be concerned about man's negative impact to the environment? Jeebus is coming so none of it will matter. Trying to make the world a better place? Screw that! Jeebus is coming and all those non-Christians who don't accept the coercive threats are going to burn.

Yee haw.

Hollie
That is exactly what the Bible says Hollie. That man will not believe in him because they think that they are too smart to believe and that belief in God is nothing but nonsense.
It has also been proven that the Bible has not been rewritten from the findings of the Dead Sea Scrolls. It is still the very same words written 2,000 years ago as it is today.

You also have it wrong that believers in God are not concerned with Earths environment. God commands us that we must be good stewards and to take care of the Earth. We will still be living on this planet after Jesus returns.

Hollie- Think about the protesters around the world. Who are the ones who clean up after themselves. Lefties or Righties? Who are the ones who are destroying things?
You are believing the lies about believers, they are not haters.

Just last month we had millions show up in New York City to protest over climate change.
They left tons of trash behind and many of them flew in on their private jets.
The Wall Street Protesters left tons of trash and blocked small businesses from their customers.
The Tea Party protesters have always cleaned up after themselves where ever they have protested.

It is not mankind's impact on the environment. It is God who is - because the majority on Earth do not believe in him and refuse to turn to him and accept him and follow his ways.

We are all now, going through the Trumpet Judgments. Believers as well as non believers. All of us right now are experiencing the Trumpet Judgments.
It is up to each and every single one of us who are living right now to see and understand them. These Trumpets judgments are what God is showing us as his proof in him. The words in the Bible are showing us, we who have ears and eyes see it. Those that don't - refuse to see and hear and would rather believe the lies that it is the burning of fossil fuels done by mankind.
Believers will not have to go through the Bowl Judgments. Those who still refuse to see and believe will have to go through the Bowl Judgments and many will still refuse to believe and then they will be forced to see and believe that there is a God the creator but they curse him for it. They have their absolute proof yet they curse him rather than turn to him.

Was there a prior agreement that this thread be used to proselytize?

We have the freedom to do so.
I am telling you facts - believe it or don't.
The Trumpet Judgments are bad enough let alone the Bowl Judgments. They are not going to be very nice to go through , but it is your freedom to do so if you want to.

Of course you have the freedom to do so. I just would have hoped for a bit of honesty and personal integrity to identify that you aren't interested in defending an argument, you're just looking to proselytize.

I am being honest you are the one who is refusing the facts.
I also am not trying to proselytize you.
Proselytizing means to to induce someone to convert to one's faith. I am a Baptist and I am not trying to get you to join the Baptist Church or any other denomination.
Showing proof that there is a God is not proselytizing.

Loading a thread with something about trumpet and bowl judgements has what to do with Ark tales?

 

[RandomVariable]

Hollie
That is exactly what the Bible says Hollie. That man will not believe in him because they think that they are too smart to believe and that belief in God is nothing but nonsense.
It has also been proven that the Bible has not been rewritten from the findings of the Dead Sea Scrolls. It is still the very same words written 2,000 years ago as it is today.

You also have it wrong that believers in God are not concerned with Earths environment. God commands us that we must be good stewards and to take care of the Earth. We will still be living on this planet after Jesus returns.

Hollie- Think about the protesters around the world. Who are the ones who clean up after themselves. Lefties or Righties? Who are the ones who are destroying things?
You are believing the lies about believers, they are not haters.

Just last month we had millions show up in New York City to protest over climate change.
They left tons of trash behind and many of them flew in on their private jets.
The Wall Street Protesters left tons of trash and blocked small businesses from their customers.
The Tea Party protesters have always cleaned up after themselves where ever they have protested.

It is not mankind's impact on the environment. It is God who is - because the majority on Earth do not believe in him and refuse to turn to him and accept him and follow his ways.

We are all now, going through the Trumpet Judgments. Believers as well as non believers. All of us right now are experiencing the Trumpet Judgments.
It is up to each and every single one of us who are living right now to see and understand them. These Trumpets judgments are what God is showing us as his proof in him. The words in the Bible are showing us, we who have ears and eyes see it. Those that don't - refuse to see and hear and would rather believe the lies that it is the burning of fossil fuels done by mankind.
Believers will not have to go through the Bowl Judgments. Those who still refuse to see and believe will have to go through the Bowl Judgments and many will still refuse to believe and then they will be forced to see and believe that there is a God the creator but they curse him for it. They have their absolute proof yet they curse him rather than turn to him.

Was there a prior agreement that this thread be used to proselytize?

We have the freedom to do so.
I am telling you facts - believe it or don't.
The Trumpet Judgments are bad enough let alone the Bowl Judgments. They are not going to be very nice to go through , but it is your freedom to do so if you want to.

Of course you have the freedom to do so. I just would have hoped for a bit of honesty and personal integrity to identify that you aren't interested in defending an argument, you're just looking to proselytize.

I am being honest you are the one who is refusing the facts.
I also am not trying to proselytize you.
Proselytizing means to to induce someone to convert to one's faith. I am a Baptist and I am not trying to get you to join the Baptist Church or any other denomination.
Showing proof that there is a God is not proselytizing.

Loading a thread with something about trumpet and bowl judgements has what to do with Ark tales?

As Hollie grinds to a fail and Taz is never seen from again...

 

[Hollie]

Was there a prior agreement that this thread be used to proselytize?

We have the freedom to do so.
I am telling you facts - believe it or don't.
The Trumpet Judgments are bad enough let alone the Bowl Judgments. They are not going to be very nice to go through , but it is your freedom to do so if you want to.

Of course you have the freedom to do so. I just would have hoped for a bit of honesty and personal integrity to identify that you aren't interested in defending an argument, you're just looking to proselytize.

I am being honest you are the one who is refusing the facts.
I also am not trying to proselytize you.
Proselytizing means to to induce someone to convert to one's faith. I am a Baptist and I am not trying to get you to join the Baptist Church or any other denomination.
Showing proof that there is a God is not proselytizing.

Loading a thread with something about trumpet and bowl judgements has what to do with Ark tales?

As Hollie grinds to a fail and Taz is never seen from again...

I'm still waiting to see the peer reviewed data you're about to post... anytime now, that will give us a comprehensive description of the Ark tale, how this event took place only 4,000 +/- years ago and how we resolve that with biological, chemical, archeological timelines that define a planet somewhere around 3.8 billion years old.

I can't respond to what you're refusing to post as credible evidence of Arks, dinosaurs thereon (yeah, dinosaurs frolicking with humans), and why the gods would allow for incestuous relations as Noah and his immediate family were left to repopulate the planet, all in just a few thousand years.

Witness for me, brotha'

 

[Taz]

I'm agnostic, I see no real proof for or against the possibility of a god existing. Meaning, if someone ever brings me real proof that a god exists, I'd have no problem believing then that a god exists.

Fine, let us start with Noah's flood as told in the Old Testament King James Version. OK?

Go for it.

Excellent. First let us acknowledge that we can not examine the flood itself so what we must focus on is the account of the flood. Agreed?

Actually, if there was a global flood, there would be archeological evidence pinpointing the time... But focus on the account of the flood if you wish.

I wish. Focusing on the account itself should make the process of proving God much quicker. The account can be isolated to the book of Genesis, chapters 6 through 8. 22 + 24 + 22 = 68 verses.

Why does the LORD tell Noah to use gopher wood? There is no such material as far as one anyone knows.

So when do you prove the existence of god? Just keep going...

 

[peach174]

There is archaeological evidence that there was a worldwide flood.

Evidence for Rapid Washout Catastrophic Flood Washouts
Geologists have been forced to admit to catastrophic formation of some of the great landscape scars that occur on every continent. In many cases, geologists have even had their definitions and concept of land formation proven questionable.

Soft Rock Catastrophic Flood Model
another feature often seen in rockstratais extensive folding. The flood model can explain this as contortion induced in soft material during an earthquake or upheaval of a portion of the earth. If each of the layers was hard to begin with it would be impossible for folding such as this to take place.
These examples are anomalies that weaken the evolutionary theory. The Flood model looks more plausible when we study the evidence objectively.

From the "about" section at your link:

"We are committed to sharing the truth about God and His promises. Amazing Discoveries™ began as a way for us to further spread this truth."

So yeah, at the bias is announced.

Can you link to peer reviewed papers published by AD?

No? So once again, this is just a thread for thumping, right?

New Evidence Suggests Biblical Great Flood of Noah s Time Happened Archaeologist Says - ABC News
https://www.icr.org/i/pdf/technical...r-a-Recent-Global-Flood-and-a-Young-Earth.pdf
Just Whose Science Is Todd Wood Stopping Uncommon Descent


Archaeological Science
There is a worldwide tradition among natives of a global flood.
According to current archaeological evidence, civilization appears to have originated in the Ararat/Babylon region.
The genealogical records of many of the European kings can be traced back to Japheth, son of Noah.
An analysis of population growth statistics confirms that there was zero population at the estimated time of the end of the flood. This indicates the global demise of humans by Noah's flood.
Human palaeontological evidence exists even in the earliest geologic 'ages' ( human footprints in Cambrian, Carboniferous, and Cretaceous rocks). If the layers of rock were laid down by a global flood and then interpreted as evolutionary long-ages, human remains and artifact's would appear to be in such positions.
The most ancient human artefacts date to the post-flood era. This indicates that the earlier hardware could have been buried beyond reach by a huge flood.
Calculations have shown that there is nearly the same amount of organic material present today, worldwide, as there would have been if all the fossils were still alive. This indicates the demise of all living things in a single global event.
Palaeontological evidence indicates that the early earth had a warm/humid climate. This is consistent with the destruction of the old atmosphere by the processes of a global flood as described in Genesis.
The glacial period started very quickly. This would require a cataclysmic event such as a global flood to trigger such a rapid climatic change.
Similar geologic formations exist in rocks of all ages ( rifts, folds, faults, thrusts, etc.). These can just as easily be explained as being created in the same cataclysmic global event.
Studies show that much of the world's folded beds of sediment have no compression fractures, indicating that they were contorted while they were still wet and soft. For this to occur on a global scale, and on sediment thousands of metres thick, it would have required a catastrophic global flood.
Rocks of different geologic 'ages' have similar physical features indicating that they could have been created by a single worldwide event - such as a global flood.
There is an absence of physical evidence that indicates a time change between rocks of 'successive ages'. Sedimentary rock layers worldwide appear to have been laid down very quickly, as by a global flood.
Globally, there is an almost complete absence of any evidence of animal and plant root activity within the tiny layers of sediment. Slowly deposited layers should show this activity, flood deposits wouldn't.
All types of rocks (limestone, shale, granite, etc) occur in all geologic 'ages'. This indicates a common formation on a global scale - the situation that would have been created by the mixing of sediment in a global flood.
Many geological processes have a recent geological date. If the long-age evolutionary time scale is ignored, these processes would have occurred in the very recent past - as a result of the flood cataclysm.
Recent volcanic rocks are distributed widely. (see last point above)
There is a lack of correlation between radiometric 'ages' and assumed palaeontological 'ages' . A global flood could easily create an illusion of geologic 'ages'. The consequent conflict between dating methods confirms the illusion.
Fossil 'graveyards' are found worldwide, and in rocks of all 'ages'. Only a catastrophic global flood could achieve this.
The burial of fossil deposits worldwide had to have occurred in a catastrophic event. Only massive flooding could bury in such a fashion.
Marine fossils can be found on the crests of mountains. Apart from mountain uplifting, this can also be explained as the marine animals being washed there and then buried. A global flood could do this.
There is a worldwide distribution of most of the fossil types, indicating transportation on a global scale by a global flood.
Fossils from different 'ages' are often found mixed. This indicates a huge mixing of animal bones that is not consistent with a local flood.
Worldwide, fossils from different 'ages' are often found in the wrong order. This indicates a global mixing of fossils as a consequence of a global flood.
Supposed evolutionary fossil sequences often parallel the ecological zonation that occurs today . If a global flood mixed organisms from different areas, it would create the illusion of a fossil sequence over time.
Dinosaurs and many other prehistoric creatures died out suddenly (Fact). A catastrophe such as a global flood could have produced this result. The theory of a meteorite as well as a flood are both scientific theories and one or the other should not be ignored.
Polystrate fossils ( vertical fossil tree trunks) that are found worldwide indicate turbulent or rapid deposition. A global flood would be required to do this worldwide.
Polystrate fossils also form when water-logged timber sinks in a large body of water. A year long global flood could produce worldwide polystrate fossils formed in this way.
Animal tracks and other ephemeral markings (ripple-marks and raindrop imprints) have been preserved throughout the geological column. Rapid covering of these markings is required for this preservation worldwide - by a global flood.
Meteorites are basically absent from the geologic column. With the large number of meteorites hitting the earth each year, they should be very plentiful throughout the sedimentary rocks - unless much of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down in one year.
Sedimentary rocks contain fossil ripple-marks and raindrop imprints, but no hail imprints. A global flood (with associated rain), that was not caused by storms would not leave hail imprint marks.
Some desert areas show evidence of 'recent' water bodies. Water from a recent global flood would remain in large pools (bodies of water) for some time before evaporating.
There is evidence of a recent drastic rise in sea level. A global flood could easily have created this feature.
Raised shorelines are found worldwide indicating a time when the world had a different sea level. A consistent interpretation of this is that a global flood altered the levels of the oceans and seas.
Mountain-high water level marks found throughout the world are consistent with the recession of a global flood.
River terraces are found worldwide.
There is a universal occurrence of rivers in valleys too large for the present stream. Slow erosion over millions of years could not have created these valleys as the mountains would have eroded, keeping pace with the valley erosion. The drainage of global floodwaters from the land surface could easily create such wide valleys in a short period of time.
Only modern sediments show any evidence of surface drainage systems. If the majority of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down by a global flood there would not be any sign of drainage erosion except for the top layers eroded during the recession of the flood waters off the land.
Hydrologic evidence points to the rapid deposition of sedimentary rock layers. Therefore, the thousand's of metres of sediment must have been deposited by a catastrophic global flood.
Hydrologic evidence points to the world's sedimentary rocks being deposited in one continuous episode. All the layers could have been laid down by a single event, such as a global flood.
Hydrologic experiments show that flowing sediment automatically settles out in distinct layers. Therefore, sedimentary rock layers can be just as easily explained as flood debris, as slow deposition.
There is a worldwide occurrence of deep alluvial deposits and sedimentary rocks consistent with a huge global flood.
There is a near-random deposition of formational sequences.
Nowhere in the world is it possible to see the complete geologic column as a single structure. It is always found in bits and pieces, and mostly with pieces missing. Globally, a worldwide flood could create the illusion of a geologic column.
The oldest organisms still alive on Earth today, the Californian Redwoods, Sequoias and Bristlecone Pines, are around 3,000-4,000 years old. Nothing is older that the date of Noah's flood.

There is plenty of Archaeological evidence for the flood. As for a young earth I am still not convenced of a young earth science. So don't try to paint me as a young Earth believer like you tried to do in a earlier discussion that we had. I believe that the Earth is billions of years old.
I put the links that have carbon dating changes and challenges even though they are scientist's of a young earth. Their science discoveries should not be ignored like the mainstream who are also biased. The mainstream do not want to believe that there is a Creator and when evidence does prove it, it's buried in the college and science buildings basements and or put in the shelves and drawers to be ignored.
There is plenty of scientific evidence on both sides of a Global Flooding.

 

[peach174]

Hollie
That is exactly what the Bible says Hollie. That man will not believe in him because they think that they are too smart to believe and that belief in God is nothing but nonsense.
It has also been proven that the Bible has not been rewritten from the findings of the Dead Sea Scrolls. It is still the very same words written 2,000 years ago as it is today.

You also have it wrong that believers in God are not concerned with Earths environment. God commands us that we must be good stewards and to take care of the Earth. We will still be living on this planet after Jesus returns.

Hollie- Think about the protesters around the world. Who are the ones who clean up after themselves. Lefties or Righties? Who are the ones who are destroying things?
You are believing the lies about believers, they are not haters.

Just last month we had millions show up in New York City to protest over climate change.
They left tons of trash behind and many of them flew in on their private jets.
The Wall Street Protesters left tons of trash and blocked small businesses from their customers.
The Tea Party protesters have always cleaned up after themselves where ever they have protested.

It is not mankind's impact on the environment. It is God who is - because the majority on Earth do not believe in him and refuse to turn to him and accept him and follow his ways.

We are all now, going through the Trumpet Judgments. Believers as well as non believers. All of us right now are experiencing the Trumpet Judgments.
It is up to each and every single one of us who are living right now to see and understand them. These Trumpets judgments are what God is showing us as his proof in him. The words in the Bible are showing us, we who have ears and eyes see it. Those that don't - refuse to see and hear and would rather believe the lies that it is the burning of fossil fuels done by mankind.
Believers will not have to go through the Bowl Judgments. Those who still refuse to see and believe will have to go through the Bowl Judgments and many will still refuse to believe and then they will be forced to see and believe that there is a God the creator but they curse him for it. They have their absolute proof yet they curse him rather than turn to him.

Was there a prior agreement that this thread be used to proselytize?

We have the freedom to do so.
I am telling you facts - believe it or don't.
The Trumpet Judgments are bad enough let alone the Bowl Judgments. They are not going to be very nice to go through , but it is your freedom to do so if you want to.

Of course you have the freedom to do so. I just would have hoped for a bit of honesty and personal integrity to identify that you aren't interested in defending an argument, you're just looking to proselytize.

I am being honest you are the one who is refusing the facts.
I also am not trying to proselytize you.
Proselytizing means to to induce someone to convert to one's faith. I am a Baptist and I am not trying to get you to join the Baptist Church or any other denomination.
Showing proof that there is a God is not proselytizing.

Loading a thread with something about trumpet and bowl judgements has what to do with Ark tales?

You are the one who is ignoring the start of the discussion of what I said, with what you said.
It was an answer to your misguided perceptions of believers and trying to paint Christians as bad.
It was you who deflected the discussion of the Ark.

 

[RandomVariable]

Hollie, I have to admit you are doing pretty well for someone with no knowledge of God but you are boring me. Quit boring people people Hollie! As I have said, knowing God is more than just like some random knowledge like the first twelve digits of pi. Jesus promises salvation but God promises a bountiful harvest. Could be why rulers like Jesus a lot more than God. A note of caution however. Right now we are merely playing with snakes and sticks. And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither harken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign. All of the LORD's prophets have been killed. Elijah is on the way.

 

[Hollie]

There is archaeological evidence that there was a worldwide flood.

Evidence for Rapid Washout Catastrophic Flood Washouts
Geologists have been forced to admit to catastrophic formation of some of the great landscape scars that occur on every continent. In many cases, geologists have even had their definitions and concept of land formation proven questionable.

Soft Rock Catastrophic Flood Model
another feature often seen in rockstratais extensive folding. The flood model can explain this as contortion induced in soft material during an earthquake or upheaval of a portion of the earth. If each of the layers was hard to begin with it would be impossible for folding such as this to take place.
These examples are anomalies that weaken the evolutionary theory. The Flood model looks more plausible when we study the evidence objectively.

From the "about" section at your link:

"We are committed to sharing the truth about God and His promises. Amazing Discoveries™ began as a way for us to further spread this truth."

So yeah, at the bias is announced.

Can you link to peer reviewed papers published by AD?

No? So once again, this is just a thread for thumping, right?

New Evidence Suggests Biblical Great Flood of Noah s Time Happened Archaeologist Says - ABC News
https://www.icr.org/i/pdf/technical...r-a-Recent-Global-Flood-and-a-Young-Earth.pdf
Just Whose Science Is Todd Wood Stopping Uncommon Descent


Archaeological Science
There is a worldwide tradition among natives of a global flood.
According to current archaeological evidence, civilization appears to have originated in the Ararat/Babylon region.
The genealogical records of many of the European kings can be traced back to Japheth, son of Noah.
An analysis of population growth statistics confirms that there was zero population at the estimated time of the end of the flood. This indicates the global demise of humans by Noah's flood.
Human palaeontological evidence exists even in the earliest geologic 'ages' ( human footprints in Cambrian, Carboniferous, and Cretaceous rocks). If the layers of rock were laid down by a global flood and then interpreted as evolutionary long-ages, human remains and artifact's would appear to be in such positions.
The most ancient human artefacts date to the post-flood era. This indicates that the earlier hardware could have been buried beyond reach by a huge flood.
Calculations have shown that there is nearly the same amount of organic material present today, worldwide, as there would have been if all the fossils were still alive. This indicates the demise of all living things in a single global event.
Palaeontological evidence indicates that the early earth had a warm/humid climate. This is consistent with the destruction of the old atmosphere by the processes of a global flood as described in Genesis.
The glacial period started very quickly. This would require a cataclysmic event such as a global flood to trigger such a rapid climatic change.
Similar geologic formations exist in rocks of all ages ( rifts, folds, faults, thrusts, etc.). These can just as easily be explained as being created in the same cataclysmic global event.
Studies show that much of the world's folded beds of sediment have no compression fractures, indicating that they were contorted while they were still wet and soft. For this to occur on a global scale, and on sediment thousands of metres thick, it would have required a catastrophic global flood.
Rocks of different geologic 'ages' have similar physical features indicating that they could have been created by a single worldwide event - such as a global flood.
There is an absence of physical evidence that indicates a time change between rocks of 'successive ages'. Sedimentary rock layers worldwide appear to have been laid down very quickly, as by a global flood.
Globally, there is an almost complete absence of any evidence of animal and plant root activity within the tiny layers of sediment. Slowly deposited layers should show this activity, flood deposits wouldn't.
All types of rocks (limestone, shale, granite, etc) occur in all geologic 'ages'. This indicates a common formation on a global scale - the situation that would have been created by the mixing of sediment in a global flood.
Many geological processes have a recent geological date. If the long-age evolutionary time scale is ignored, these processes would have occurred in the very recent past - as a result of the flood cataclysm.
Recent volcanic rocks are distributed widely. (see last point above)
There is a lack of correlation between radiometric 'ages' and assumed palaeontological 'ages' . A global flood could easily create an illusion of geologic 'ages'. The consequent conflict between dating methods confirms the illusion.
Fossil 'graveyards' are found worldwide, and in rocks of all 'ages'. Only a catastrophic global flood could achieve this.
The burial of fossil deposits worldwide had to have occurred in a catastrophic event. Only massive flooding could bury in such a fashion.
Marine fossils can be found on the crests of mountains. Apart from mountain uplifting, this can also be explained as the marine animals being washed there and then buried. A global flood could do this.
There is a worldwide distribution of most of the fossil types, indicating transportation on a global scale by a global flood.
Fossils from different 'ages' are often found mixed. This indicates a huge mixing of animal bones that is not consistent with a local flood.
Worldwide, fossils from different 'ages' are often found in the wrong order. This indicates a global mixing of fossils as a consequence of a global flood.
Supposed evolutionary fossil sequences often parallel the ecological zonation that occurs today . If a global flood mixed organisms from different areas, it would create the illusion of a fossil sequence over time.
Dinosaurs and many other prehistoric creatures died out suddenly (Fact). A catastrophe such as a global flood could have produced this result. The theory of a meteorite as well as a flood are both scientific theories and one or the other should not be ignored.
Polystrate fossils ( vertical fossil tree trunks) that are found worldwide indicate turbulent or rapid deposition. A global flood would be required to do this worldwide.
Polystrate fossils also form when water-logged timber sinks in a large body of water. A year long global flood could produce worldwide polystrate fossils formed in this way.
Animal tracks and other ephemeral markings (ripple-marks and raindrop imprints) have been preserved throughout the geological column. Rapid covering of these markings is required for this preservation worldwide - by a global flood.
Meteorites are basically absent from the geologic column. With the large number of meteorites hitting the earth each year, they should be very plentiful throughout the sedimentary rocks - unless much of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down in one year.
Sedimentary rocks contain fossil ripple-marks and raindrop imprints, but no hail imprints. A global flood (with associated rain), that was not caused by storms would not leave hail imprint marks.
Some desert areas show evidence of 'recent' water bodies. Water from a recent global flood would remain in large pools (bodies of water) for some time before evaporating.
There is evidence of a recent drastic rise in sea level. A global flood could easily have created this feature.
Raised shorelines are found worldwide indicating a time when the world had a different sea level. A consistent interpretation of this is that a global flood altered the levels of the oceans and seas.
Mountain-high water level marks found throughout the world are consistent with the recession of a global flood.
River terraces are found worldwide.
There is a universal occurrence of rivers in valleys too large for the present stream. Slow erosion over millions of years could not have created these valleys as the mountains would have eroded, keeping pace with the valley erosion. The drainage of global floodwaters from the land surface could easily create such wide valleys in a short period of time.
Only modern sediments show any evidence of surface drainage systems. If the majority of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down by a global flood there would not be any sign of drainage erosion except for the top layers eroded during the recession of the flood waters off the land.
Hydrologic evidence points to the rapid deposition of sedimentary rock layers. Therefore, the thousand's of metres of sediment must have been deposited by a catastrophic global flood.
Hydrologic evidence points to the world's sedimentary rocks being deposited in one continuous episode. All the layers could have been laid down by a single event, such as a global flood.
Hydrologic experiments show that flowing sediment automatically settles out in distinct layers. Therefore, sedimentary rock layers can be just as easily explained as flood debris, as slow deposition.
There is a worldwide occurrence of deep alluvial deposits and sedimentary rocks consistent with a huge global flood.
There is a near-random deposition of formational sequences.
Nowhere in the world is it possible to see the complete geologic column as a single structure. It is always found in bits and pieces, and mostly with pieces missing. Globally, a worldwide flood could create the illusion of a geologic column.
The oldest organisms still alive on Earth today, the Californian Redwoods, Sequoias and Bristlecone Pines, are around 3,000-4,000 years old. Nothing is older that the date of Noah's flood.

There is plenty of Archaeological evidence for the flood. As for a young earth I am still not convenced of a young earth science. So don't try to paint me as a young Earth believer like you tried to do in a earlier discussion that we had. I believe that the Earth is billions of years old.
I put the links that have carbon dating changes and challenges even though they are scientist's of a young earth. Their science discoveries should not be ignored like the mainstream who are also biased. The mainstream do not want to believe that there is a Creator and when evidence does prove it, it's buried in the college and science buildings basements and or put in the shelves and drawers to be ignored.
There is plenty of scientific evidence on both sides of a Global Flooding.

No mention of Arks, dinosaurs on boat rides, etc.

No even the timelines that would support Noah's pleasure cruise.

An ice age (which there is hard data for), that gripped the planet 15,000 to 12,000 years would account for Ark tales, tales and fables passed down from generation to generation and becoming embellished with each re-telling.



Bob Ballard explorer who found the Titanic now says he may have found evidence of Noah s flood - NY Daily News

Here’s how he explains it. Around 12,000 years ago, much of the world was covered with glaciers. When they began to melt, excess water rushed into the earth’s oceans and caused disastrous floods.

So in 5,000 B.C., the Black Sea was just a freshwater lake. As the Mediterranean Sea rose, seawater flooded into the Black Sea with a force 200 times that of Niagara Falls, the Guardian reports.

“It probably was a bad day,” Ballard told ABC News. “At some magic moment, it broke through and flooded this place violently, and a lot of real estate, 150,000 square kilometers of land (or 58,000 square miles, about the size of Illinois), went under.”

 

[Hollie]

Hollie, I have to admit you are doing pretty well for someone with no knowledge of God but you are boring me. Quit boring people people Hollie! As I have said, knowing God is more than just like some random knowledge like the first twelve digits of pi. Jesus promises salvation but God promises a bountiful harvest. Could be why rulers like Jesus a lot more than God. A note of caution however. Right now we are merely playing with snakes and sticks. And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither harken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign. All of the LORD's prophets have been killed. Elijah is on the way.

This is not the thread for proselytizing.

 

[the_human_being]

There is archaeological evidence that there was a worldwide flood.

Evidence for Rapid Washout Catastrophic Flood Washouts
Geologists have been forced to admit to catastrophic formation of some of the great landscape scars that occur on every continent. In many cases, geologists have even had their definitions and concept of land formation proven questionable.

Soft Rock Catastrophic Flood Model
another feature often seen in rockstratais extensive folding. The flood model can explain this as contortion induced in soft material during an earthquake or upheaval of a portion of the earth. If each of the layers was hard to begin with it would be impossible for folding such as this to take place.
These examples are anomalies that weaken the evolutionary theory. The Flood model looks more plausible when we study the evidence objectively.

From the "about" section at your link:

"We are committed to sharing the truth about God and His promises. Amazing Discoveries™ began as a way for us to further spread this truth."

So yeah, at the bias is announced.

Can you link to peer reviewed papers published by AD?

No? So once again, this is just a thread for thumping, right?

New Evidence Suggests Biblical Great Flood of Noah s Time Happened Archaeologist Says - ABC News
https://www.icr.org/i/pdf/technical...r-a-Recent-Global-Flood-and-a-Young-Earth.pdf
Just Whose Science Is Todd Wood Stopping Uncommon Descent


Archaeological Science
There is a worldwide tradition among natives of a global flood.
According to current archaeological evidence, civilization appears to have originated in the Ararat/Babylon region.
The genealogical records of many of the European kings can be traced back to Japheth, son of Noah.
An analysis of population growth statistics confirms that there was zero population at the estimated time of the end of the flood. This indicates the global demise of humans by Noah's flood.
Human palaeontological evidence exists even in the earliest geologic 'ages' ( human footprints in Cambrian, Carboniferous, and Cretaceous rocks). If the layers of rock were laid down by a global flood and then interpreted as evolutionary long-ages, human remains and artifact's would appear to be in such positions.
The most ancient human artefacts date to the post-flood era. This indicates that the earlier hardware could have been buried beyond reach by a huge flood.
Calculations have shown that there is nearly the same amount of organic material present today, worldwide, as there would have been if all the fossils were still alive. This indicates the demise of all living things in a single global event.
Palaeontological evidence indicates that the early earth had a warm/humid climate. This is consistent with the destruction of the old atmosphere by the processes of a global flood as described in Genesis.
The glacial period started very quickly. This would require a cataclysmic event such as a global flood to trigger such a rapid climatic change.
Similar geologic formations exist in rocks of all ages ( rifts, folds, faults, thrusts, etc.). These can just as easily be explained as being created in the same cataclysmic global event.
Studies show that much of the world's folded beds of sediment have no compression fractures, indicating that they were contorted while they were still wet and soft. For this to occur on a global scale, and on sediment thousands of metres thick, it would have required a catastrophic global flood.
Rocks of different geologic 'ages' have similar physical features indicating that they could have been created by a single worldwide event - such as a global flood.
There is an absence of physical evidence that indicates a time change between rocks of 'successive ages'. Sedimentary rock layers worldwide appear to have been laid down very quickly, as by a global flood.
Globally, there is an almost complete absence of any evidence of animal and plant root activity within the tiny layers of sediment. Slowly deposited layers should show this activity, flood deposits wouldn't.
All types of rocks (limestone, shale, granite, etc) occur in all geologic 'ages'. This indicates a common formation on a global scale - the situation that would have been created by the mixing of sediment in a global flood.
Many geological processes have a recent geological date. If the long-age evolutionary time scale is ignored, these processes would have occurred in the very recent past - as a result of the flood cataclysm.
Recent volcanic rocks are distributed widely. (see last point above)
There is a lack of correlation between radiometric 'ages' and assumed palaeontological 'ages' . A global flood could easily create an illusion of geologic 'ages'. The consequent conflict between dating methods confirms the illusion.
Fossil 'graveyards' are found worldwide, and in rocks of all 'ages'. Only a catastrophic global flood could achieve this.
The burial of fossil deposits worldwide had to have occurred in a catastrophic event. Only massive flooding could bury in such a fashion.
Marine fossils can be found on the crests of mountains. Apart from mountain uplifting, this can also be explained as the marine animals being washed there and then buried. A global flood could do this.
There is a worldwide distribution of most of the fossil types, indicating transportation on a global scale by a global flood.
Fossils from different 'ages' are often found mixed. This indicates a huge mixing of animal bones that is not consistent with a local flood.
Worldwide, fossils from different 'ages' are often found in the wrong order. This indicates a global mixing of fossils as a consequence of a global flood.
Supposed evolutionary fossil sequences often parallel the ecological zonation that occurs today . If a global flood mixed organisms from different areas, it would create the illusion of a fossil sequence over time.
Dinosaurs and many other prehistoric creatures died out suddenly (Fact). A catastrophe such as a global flood could have produced this result. The theory of a meteorite as well as a flood are both scientific theories and one or the other should not be ignored.
Polystrate fossils ( vertical fossil tree trunks) that are found worldwide indicate turbulent or rapid deposition. A global flood would be required to do this worldwide.
Polystrate fossils also form when water-logged timber sinks in a large body of water. A year long global flood could produce worldwide polystrate fossils formed in this way.
Animal tracks and other ephemeral markings (ripple-marks and raindrop imprints) have been preserved throughout the geological column. Rapid covering of these markings is required for this preservation worldwide - by a global flood.
Meteorites are basically absent from the geologic column. With the large number of meteorites hitting the earth each year, they should be very plentiful throughout the sedimentary rocks - unless much of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down in one year.
Sedimentary rocks contain fossil ripple-marks and raindrop imprints, but no hail imprints. A global flood (with associated rain), that was not caused by storms would not leave hail imprint marks.
Some desert areas show evidence of 'recent' water bodies. Water from a recent global flood would remain in large pools (bodies of water) for some time before evaporating.
There is evidence of a recent drastic rise in sea level. A global flood could easily have created this feature.
Raised shorelines are found worldwide indicating a time when the world had a different sea level. A consistent interpretation of this is that a global flood altered the levels of the oceans and seas.
Mountain-high water level marks found throughout the world are consistent with the recession of a global flood.
River terraces are found worldwide.
There is a universal occurrence of rivers in valleys too large for the present stream. Slow erosion over millions of years could not have created these valleys as the mountains would have eroded, keeping pace with the valley erosion. The drainage of global floodwaters from the land surface could easily create such wide valleys in a short period of time.
Only modern sediments show any evidence of surface drainage systems. If the majority of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down by a global flood there would not be any sign of drainage erosion except for the top layers eroded during the recession of the flood waters off the land.
Hydrologic evidence points to the rapid deposition of sedimentary rock layers. Therefore, the thousand's of metres of sediment must have been deposited by a catastrophic global flood.
Hydrologic evidence points to the world's sedimentary rocks being deposited in one continuous episode. All the layers could have been laid down by a single event, such as a global flood.
Hydrologic experiments show that flowing sediment automatically settles out in distinct layers. Therefore, sedimentary rock layers can be just as easily explained as flood debris, as slow deposition.
There is a worldwide occurrence of deep alluvial deposits and sedimentary rocks consistent with a huge global flood.
There is a near-random deposition of formational sequences.
Nowhere in the world is it possible to see the complete geologic column as a single structure. It is always found in bits and pieces, and mostly with pieces missing. Globally, a worldwide flood could create the illusion of a geologic column.
The oldest organisms still alive on Earth today, the Californian Redwoods, Sequoias and Bristlecone Pines, are around 3,000-4,000 years old. Nothing is older that the date of Noah's flood.

There is plenty of Archaeological evidence for the flood. As for a young earth I am still not convenced of a young earth science. So don't try to paint me as a young Earth believer like you tried to do in a earlier discussion that we had. I believe that the Earth is billions of years old.
I put the links that have carbon dating changes and challenges even though they are scientist's of a young earth. Their science discoveries should not be ignored like the mainstream who are also biased. The mainstream do not want to believe that there is a Creator and when evidence does prove it, it's buried in the college and science buildings basements and or put in the shelves and drawers to be ignored.
There is plenty of scientific evidence on both sides of a Global Flooding.

Excellent post Peach. I saw a movie on all of this as well as on the formation of the Grand Canyon. What really got to me though was those trees buried upright without having any roots. The is far more coal throughout the world right now even though we have been mining it for years than could be produced were all the trees currently present in todays world to be buried. For anyone who claims to believe in science to deny that something very major happened is laughable.

 

[Hollie]

Was there a prior agreement that this thread be used to proselytize?

We have the freedom to do so.
I am telling you facts - believe it or don't.
The Trumpet Judgments are bad enough let alone the Bowl Judgments. They are not going to be very nice to go through , but it is your freedom to do so if you want to.

Of course you have the freedom to do so. I just would have hoped for a bit of honesty and personal integrity to identify that you aren't interested in defending an argument, you're just looking to proselytize.

I am being honest you are the one who is refusing the facts.
I also am not trying to proselytize you.
Proselytizing means to to induce someone to convert to one's faith. I am a Baptist and I am not trying to get you to join the Baptist Church or any other denomination.
Showing proof that there is a God is not proselytizing.

Loading a thread with something about trumpet and bowl judgements has what to do with Ark tales?

You are the one who is ignoring the start of the discussion of what I said, with what you said.
It was an answer to your misguided perceptions of believers and trying to paint Christians as bad.
It was you who deflected the discussion of the Ark.

I'm still seeing nothing that supports the biblical tale of Noah and the Ark.

 

[RandomVariable]

Hollie, I have to admit you are doing pretty well for someone with no knowledge of God but you are boring me. Quit boring people people Hollie! As I have said, knowing God is more than just like some random knowledge like the first twelve digits of pi. Jesus promises salvation but God promises a bountiful harvest. Could be why rulers like Jesus a lot more than God. A note of caution however. Right now we are merely playing with snakes and sticks. And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither harken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign. All of the LORD's prophets have been killed. Elijah is on the way.

This is not the thread for proselytizing.

Still looking up random words to answer the first question? You remember? The first question?, the one you are still dodging.

Come on, Hollow. Make up something. Anything. Just don't keep acting like you don't hear me. Makes you look stupid. We don't want you to make yourself look stupid, do we?

 

[Hollie]

There is archaeological evidence that there was a worldwide flood.

Evidence for Rapid Washout Catastrophic Flood Washouts
Geologists have been forced to admit to catastrophic formation of some of the great landscape scars that occur on every continent. In many cases, geologists have even had their definitions and concept of land formation proven questionable.

Soft Rock Catastrophic Flood Model
another feature often seen in rockstratais extensive folding. The flood model can explain this as contortion induced in soft material during an earthquake or upheaval of a portion of the earth. If each of the layers was hard to begin with it would be impossible for folding such as this to take place.
These examples are anomalies that weaken the evolutionary theory. The Flood model looks more plausible when we study the evidence objectively.

From the "about" section at your link:

"We are committed to sharing the truth about God and His promises. Amazing Discoveries™ began as a way for us to further spread this truth."

So yeah, at the bias is announced.

Can you link to peer reviewed papers published by AD?

No? So once again, this is just a thread for thumping, right?

New Evidence Suggests Biblical Great Flood of Noah s Time Happened Archaeologist Says - ABC News
https://www.icr.org/i/pdf/technical...r-a-Recent-Global-Flood-and-a-Young-Earth.pdf
Just Whose Science Is Todd Wood Stopping Uncommon Descent


Archaeological Science
There is a worldwide tradition among natives of a global flood.
According to current archaeological evidence, civilization appears to have originated in the Ararat/Babylon region.
The genealogical records of many of the European kings can be traced back to Japheth, son of Noah.
An analysis of population growth statistics confirms that there was zero population at the estimated time of the end of the flood. This indicates the global demise of humans by Noah's flood.
Human palaeontological evidence exists even in the earliest geologic 'ages' ( human footprints in Cambrian, Carboniferous, and Cretaceous rocks). If the layers of rock were laid down by a global flood and then interpreted as evolutionary long-ages, human remains and artifact's would appear to be in such positions.
The most ancient human artefacts date to the post-flood era. This indicates that the earlier hardware could have been buried beyond reach by a huge flood.
Calculations have shown that there is nearly the same amount of organic material present today, worldwide, as there would have been if all the fossils were still alive. This indicates the demise of all living things in a single global event.
Palaeontological evidence indicates that the early earth had a warm/humid climate. This is consistent with the destruction of the old atmosphere by the processes of a global flood as described in Genesis.
The glacial period started very quickly. This would require a cataclysmic event such as a global flood to trigger such a rapid climatic change.
Similar geologic formations exist in rocks of all ages ( rifts, folds, faults, thrusts, etc.). These can just as easily be explained as being created in the same cataclysmic global event.
Studies show that much of the world's folded beds of sediment have no compression fractures, indicating that they were contorted while they were still wet and soft. For this to occur on a global scale, and on sediment thousands of metres thick, it would have required a catastrophic global flood.
Rocks of different geologic 'ages' have similar physical features indicating that they could have been created by a single worldwide event - such as a global flood.
There is an absence of physical evidence that indicates a time change between rocks of 'successive ages'. Sedimentary rock layers worldwide appear to have been laid down very quickly, as by a global flood.
Globally, there is an almost complete absence of any evidence of animal and plant root activity within the tiny layers of sediment. Slowly deposited layers should show this activity, flood deposits wouldn't.
All types of rocks (limestone, shale, granite, etc) occur in all geologic 'ages'. This indicates a common formation on a global scale - the situation that would have been created by the mixing of sediment in a global flood.
Many geological processes have a recent geological date. If the long-age evolutionary time scale is ignored, these processes would have occurred in the very recent past - as a result of the flood cataclysm.
Recent volcanic rocks are distributed widely. (see last point above)
There is a lack of correlation between radiometric 'ages' and assumed palaeontological 'ages' . A global flood could easily create an illusion of geologic 'ages'. The consequent conflict between dating methods confirms the illusion.
Fossil 'graveyards' are found worldwide, and in rocks of all 'ages'. Only a catastrophic global flood could achieve this.
The burial of fossil deposits worldwide had to have occurred in a catastrophic event. Only massive flooding could bury in such a fashion.
Marine fossils can be found on the crests of mountains. Apart from mountain uplifting, this can also be explained as the marine animals being washed there and then buried. A global flood could do this.
There is a worldwide distribution of most of the fossil types, indicating transportation on a global scale by a global flood.
Fossils from different 'ages' are often found mixed. This indicates a huge mixing of animal bones that is not consistent with a local flood.
Worldwide, fossils from different 'ages' are often found in the wrong order. This indicates a global mixing of fossils as a consequence of a global flood.
Supposed evolutionary fossil sequences often parallel the ecological zonation that occurs today . If a global flood mixed organisms from different areas, it would create the illusion of a fossil sequence over time.
Dinosaurs and many other prehistoric creatures died out suddenly (Fact). A catastrophe such as a global flood could have produced this result. The theory of a meteorite as well as a flood are both scientific theories and one or the other should not be ignored.
Polystrate fossils ( vertical fossil tree trunks) that are found worldwide indicate turbulent or rapid deposition. A global flood would be required to do this worldwide.
Polystrate fossils also form when water-logged timber sinks in a large body of water. A year long global flood could produce worldwide polystrate fossils formed in this way.
Animal tracks and other ephemeral markings (ripple-marks and raindrop imprints) have been preserved throughout the geological column. Rapid covering of these markings is required for this preservation worldwide - by a global flood.
Meteorites are basically absent from the geologic column. With the large number of meteorites hitting the earth each year, they should be very plentiful throughout the sedimentary rocks - unless much of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down in one year.
Sedimentary rocks contain fossil ripple-marks and raindrop imprints, but no hail imprints. A global flood (with associated rain), that was not caused by storms would not leave hail imprint marks.
Some desert areas show evidence of 'recent' water bodies. Water from a recent global flood would remain in large pools (bodies of water) for some time before evaporating.
There is evidence of a recent drastic rise in sea level. A global flood could easily have created this feature.
Raised shorelines are found worldwide indicating a time when the world had a different sea level. A consistent interpretation of this is that a global flood altered the levels of the oceans and seas.
Mountain-high water level marks found throughout the world are consistent with the recession of a global flood.
River terraces are found worldwide.
There is a universal occurrence of rivers in valleys too large for the present stream. Slow erosion over millions of years could not have created these valleys as the mountains would have eroded, keeping pace with the valley erosion. The drainage of global floodwaters from the land surface could easily create such wide valleys in a short period of time.
Only modern sediments show any evidence of surface drainage systems. If the majority of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down by a global flood there would not be any sign of drainage erosion except for the top layers eroded during the recession of the flood waters off the land.
Hydrologic evidence points to the rapid deposition of sedimentary rock layers. Therefore, the thousand's of metres of sediment must have been deposited by a catastrophic global flood.
Hydrologic evidence points to the world's sedimentary rocks being deposited in one continuous episode. All the layers could have been laid down by a single event, such as a global flood.
Hydrologic experiments show that flowing sediment automatically settles out in distinct layers. Therefore, sedimentary rock layers can be just as easily explained as flood debris, as slow deposition.
There is a worldwide occurrence of deep alluvial deposits and sedimentary rocks consistent with a huge global flood.
There is a near-random deposition of formational sequences.
Nowhere in the world is it possible to see the complete geologic column as a single structure. It is always found in bits and pieces, and mostly with pieces missing. Globally, a worldwide flood could create the illusion of a geologic column.
The oldest organisms still alive on Earth today, the Californian Redwoods, Sequoias and Bristlecone Pines, are around 3,000-4,000 years old. Nothing is older that the date of Noah's flood.

There is plenty of Archaeological evidence for the flood. As for a young earth I am still not convenced of a young earth science. So don't try to paint me as a young Earth believer like you tried to do in a earlier discussion that we had. I believe that the Earth is billions of years old.
I put the links that have carbon dating changes and challenges even though they are scientist's of a young earth. Their science discoveries should not be ignored like the mainstream who are also biased. The mainstream do not want to believe that there is a Creator and when evidence does prove it, it's buried in the college and science buildings basements and or put in the shelves and drawers to be ignored.
There is plenty of scientific evidence on both sides of a Global Flooding.

Excellent post Peach. I saw a movie on all of this as well as on the formation of the Grand Canyon. What really got to me though was those trees buried upright without having any roots. The is far more coal throughout the world right now even though we have been mining it for years than could be produced were all the trees currently present in todays world to be buried. For anyone who claims to believe in science to deny that something very major happened is laughable.

And of course, you know with certainty that:
"The is far more coal throughout the world right now even though we have been mining it for years than could be produced were all the trees currently present in todays world to be buried"

Well, because you just know those things.

 

[Hollie]

Hollie, I have to admit you are doing pretty well for someone with no knowledge of God but you are boring me. Quit boring people people Hollie! As I have said, knowing God is more than just like some random knowledge like the first twelve digits of pi. Jesus promises salvation but God promises a bountiful harvest. Could be why rulers like Jesus a lot more than God. A note of caution however. Right now we are merely playing with snakes and sticks. And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither harken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign. All of the LORD's prophets have been killed. Elijah is on the way.

This is not the thread for proselytizing.

Still looking up random words to answer the first question? You remember? The first question?, the one you are still dodging.

Come on, Hollow. Make up something. Anything. Just don't keep acting like you don't hear me. Makes you look stupid. We don't want you to make yourself look stupid, do we?

Ah, a name caller. That adds credibility to your posts.

 

[RandomVariable]

There is archaeological evidence that there was a worldwide flood.

Evidence for Rapid Washout Catastrophic Flood Washouts
Geologists have been forced to admit to catastrophic formation of some of the great landscape scars that occur on every continent. In many cases, geologists have even had their definitions and concept of land formation proven questionable.

Soft Rock Catastrophic Flood Model
another feature often seen in rockstratais extensive folding. The flood model can explain this as contortion induced in soft material during an earthquake or upheaval of a portion of the earth. If each of the layers was hard to begin with it would be impossible for folding such as this to take place.
These examples are anomalies that weaken the evolutionary theory. The Flood model looks more plausible when we study the evidence objectively.

From the "about" section at your link:

"We are committed to sharing the truth about God and His promises. Amazing Discoveries™ began as a way for us to further spread this truth."

So yeah, at the bias is announced.

Can you link to peer reviewed papers published by AD?

No? So once again, this is just a thread for thumping, right?

New Evidence Suggests Biblical Great Flood of Noah s Time Happened Archaeologist Says - ABC News
https://www.icr.org/i/pdf/technical...r-a-Recent-Global-Flood-and-a-Young-Earth.pdf
Just Whose Science Is Todd Wood Stopping Uncommon Descent


Archaeological Science
There is a worldwide tradition among natives of a global flood.
According to current archaeological evidence, civilization appears to have originated in the Ararat/Babylon region.
The genealogical records of many of the European kings can be traced back to Japheth, son of Noah.
An analysis of population growth statistics confirms that there was zero population at the estimated time of the end of the flood. This indicates the global demise of humans by Noah's flood.
Human palaeontological evidence exists even in the earliest geologic 'ages' ( human footprints in Cambrian, Carboniferous, and Cretaceous rocks). If the layers of rock were laid down by a global flood and then interpreted as evolutionary long-ages, human remains and artifact's would appear to be in such positions.
The most ancient human artefacts date to the post-flood era. This indicates that the earlier hardware could have been buried beyond reach by a huge flood.
Calculations have shown that there is nearly the same amount of organic material present today, worldwide, as there would have been if all the fossils were still alive. This indicates the demise of all living things in a single global event.
Palaeontological evidence indicates that the early earth had a warm/humid climate. This is consistent with the destruction of the old atmosphere by the processes of a global flood as described in Genesis.
The glacial period started very quickly. This would require a cataclysmic event such as a global flood to trigger such a rapid climatic change.
Similar geologic formations exist in rocks of all ages ( rifts, folds, faults, thrusts, etc.). These can just as easily be explained as being created in the same cataclysmic global event.
Studies show that much of the world's folded beds of sediment have no compression fractures, indicating that they were contorted while they were still wet and soft. For this to occur on a global scale, and on sediment thousands of metres thick, it would have required a catastrophic global flood.
Rocks of different geologic 'ages' have similar physical features indicating that they could have been created by a single worldwide event - such as a global flood.
There is an absence of physical evidence that indicates a time change between rocks of 'successive ages'. Sedimentary rock layers worldwide appear to have been laid down very quickly, as by a global flood.
Globally, there is an almost complete absence of any evidence of animal and plant root activity within the tiny layers of sediment. Slowly deposited layers should show this activity, flood deposits wouldn't.
All types of rocks (limestone, shale, granite, etc) occur in all geologic 'ages'. This indicates a common formation on a global scale - the situation that would have been created by the mixing of sediment in a global flood.
Many geological processes have a recent geological date. If the long-age evolutionary time scale is ignored, these processes would have occurred in the very recent past - as a result of the flood cataclysm.
Recent volcanic rocks are distributed widely. (see last point above)
There is a lack of correlation between radiometric 'ages' and assumed palaeontological 'ages' . A global flood could easily create an illusion of geologic 'ages'. The consequent conflict between dating methods confirms the illusion.
Fossil 'graveyards' are found worldwide, and in rocks of all 'ages'. Only a catastrophic global flood could achieve this.
The burial of fossil deposits worldwide had to have occurred in a catastrophic event. Only massive flooding could bury in such a fashion.
Marine fossils can be found on the crests of mountains. Apart from mountain uplifting, this can also be explained as the marine animals being washed there and then buried. A global flood could do this.
There is a worldwide distribution of most of the fossil types, indicating transportation on a global scale by a global flood.
Fossils from different 'ages' are often found mixed. This indicates a huge mixing of animal bones that is not consistent with a local flood.
Worldwide, fossils from different 'ages' are often found in the wrong order. This indicates a global mixing of fossils as a consequence of a global flood.
Supposed evolutionary fossil sequences often parallel the ecological zonation that occurs today . If a global flood mixed organisms from different areas, it would create the illusion of a fossil sequence over time.
Dinosaurs and many other prehistoric creatures died out suddenly (Fact). A catastrophe such as a global flood could have produced this result. The theory of a meteorite as well as a flood are both scientific theories and one or the other should not be ignored.
Polystrate fossils ( vertical fossil tree trunks) that are found worldwide indicate turbulent or rapid deposition. A global flood would be required to do this worldwide.
Polystrate fossils also form when water-logged timber sinks in a large body of water. A year long global flood could produce worldwide polystrate fossils formed in this way.
Animal tracks and other ephemeral markings (ripple-marks and raindrop imprints) have been preserved throughout the geological column. Rapid covering of these markings is required for this preservation worldwide - by a global flood.
Meteorites are basically absent from the geologic column. With the large number of meteorites hitting the earth each year, they should be very plentiful throughout the sedimentary rocks - unless much of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down in one year.
Sedimentary rocks contain fossil ripple-marks and raindrop imprints, but no hail imprints. A global flood (with associated rain), that was not caused by storms would not leave hail imprint marks.
Some desert areas show evidence of 'recent' water bodies. Water from a recent global flood would remain in large pools (bodies of water) for some time before evaporating.
There is evidence of a recent drastic rise in sea level. A global flood could easily have created this feature.
Raised shorelines are found worldwide indicating a time when the world had a different sea level. A consistent interpretation of this is that a global flood altered the levels of the oceans and seas.
Mountain-high water level marks found throughout the world are consistent with the recession of a global flood.
River terraces are found worldwide.
There is a universal occurrence of rivers in valleys too large for the present stream. Slow erosion over millions of years could not have created these valleys as the mountains would have eroded, keeping pace with the valley erosion. The drainage of global floodwaters from the land surface could easily create such wide valleys in a short period of time.
Only modern sediments show any evidence of surface drainage systems. If the majority of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down by a global flood there would not be any sign of drainage erosion except for the top layers eroded during the recession of the flood waters off the land.
Hydrologic evidence points to the rapid deposition of sedimentary rock layers. Therefore, the thousand's of metres of sediment must have been deposited by a catastrophic global flood.
Hydrologic evidence points to the world's sedimentary rocks being deposited in one continuous episode. All the layers could have been laid down by a single event, such as a global flood.
Hydrologic experiments show that flowing sediment automatically settles out in distinct layers. Therefore, sedimentary rock layers can be just as easily explained as flood debris, as slow deposition.
There is a worldwide occurrence of deep alluvial deposits and sedimentary rocks consistent with a huge global flood.
There is a near-random deposition of formational sequences.
Nowhere in the world is it possible to see the complete geologic column as a single structure. It is always found in bits and pieces, and mostly with pieces missing. Globally, a worldwide flood could create the illusion of a geologic column.
The oldest organisms still alive on Earth today, the Californian Redwoods, Sequoias and Bristlecone Pines, are around 3,000-4,000 years old. Nothing is older that the date of Noah's flood.

There is plenty of Archaeological evidence for the flood. As for a young earth I am still not convenced of a young earth science. So don't try to paint me as a young Earth believer like you tried to do in a earlier discussion that we had. I believe that the Earth is billions of years old.
I put the links that have carbon dating changes and challenges even though they are scientist's of a young earth. Their science discoveries should not be ignored like the mainstream who are also biased. The mainstream do not want to believe that there is a Creator and when evidence does prove it, it's buried in the college and science buildings basements and or put in the shelves and drawers to be ignored.
There is plenty of scientific evidence on both sides of a Global Flooding.

Excellent post Peach. I saw a movie on all of this as well as on the formation of the Grand Canyon. What really got to me though was those trees buried upright without having any roots. The is far more coal throughout the world right now even though we have been mining it for years than could be produced were all the trees currently present in todays world to be buried. For anyone who claims to believe in science to deny that something very major happened is laughable.

And of course, you know with certainty that:
"The is far more coal throughout the world right now even though we have been mining it for years than could be produced were all the trees currently present in todays world to be buried"

Well, because you just know those things.

You keep digging that hole you'll be able to tell us exactly how much coal there is down there.

 

[RandomVariable]

Hollie, I have to admit you are doing pretty well for someone with no knowledge of God but you are boring me. Quit boring people people Hollie! As I have said, knowing God is more than just like some random knowledge like the first twelve digits of pi. Jesus promises salvation but God promises a bountiful harvest. Could be why rulers like Jesus a lot more than God. A note of caution however. Right now we are merely playing with snakes and sticks. And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither harken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign. All of the LORD's prophets have been killed. Elijah is on the way.

This is not the thread for proselytizing.

Still looking up random words to answer the first question? You remember? The first question?, the one you are still dodging.

Come on, Hollow. Make up something. Anything. Just don't keep acting like you don't hear me. Makes you look stupid. We don't want you to make yourself look stupid, do we?

Ah, a name caller. That adds credibility to your posts.

Please, please, please, do not play the victim here. At least walk away with dignity.

 

[Hollie]

There is archaeological evidence that there was a worldwide flood.

Evidence for Rapid Washout Catastrophic Flood Washouts
Geologists have been forced to admit to catastrophic formation of some of the great landscape scars that occur on every continent. In many cases, geologists have even had their definitions and concept of land formation proven questionable.

Soft Rock Catastrophic Flood Model
another feature often seen in rockstratais extensive folding. The flood model can explain this as contortion induced in soft material during an earthquake or upheaval of a portion of the earth. If each of the layers was hard to begin with it would be impossible for folding such as this to take place.
These examples are anomalies that weaken the evolutionary theory. The Flood model looks more plausible when we study the evidence objectively.

From the "about" section at your link:

"We are committed to sharing the truth about God and His promises. Amazing Discoveries™ began as a way for us to further spread this truth."

So yeah, at the bias is announced.

Can you link to peer reviewed papers published by AD?

No? So once again, this is just a thread for thumping, right?

New Evidence Suggests Biblical Great Flood of Noah s Time Happened Archaeologist Says - ABC News
https://www.icr.org/i/pdf/technical...r-a-Recent-Global-Flood-and-a-Young-Earth.pdf
Just Whose Science Is Todd Wood Stopping Uncommon Descent


Archaeological Science
There is a worldwide tradition among natives of a global flood.
According to current archaeological evidence, civilization appears to have originated in the Ararat/Babylon region.
The genealogical records of many of the European kings can be traced back to Japheth, son of Noah.
An analysis of population growth statistics confirms that there was zero population at the estimated time of the end of the flood. This indicates the global demise of humans by Noah's flood.
Human palaeontological evidence exists even in the earliest geologic 'ages' ( human footprints in Cambrian, Carboniferous, and Cretaceous rocks). If the layers of rock were laid down by a global flood and then interpreted as evolutionary long-ages, human remains and artifact's would appear to be in such positions.
The most ancient human artefacts date to the post-flood era. This indicates that the earlier hardware could have been buried beyond reach by a huge flood.
Calculations have shown that there is nearly the same amount of organic material present today, worldwide, as there would have been if all the fossils were still alive. This indicates the demise of all living things in a single global event.
Palaeontological evidence indicates that the early earth had a warm/humid climate. This is consistent with the destruction of the old atmosphere by the processes of a global flood as described in Genesis.
The glacial period started very quickly. This would require a cataclysmic event such as a global flood to trigger such a rapid climatic change.
Similar geologic formations exist in rocks of all ages ( rifts, folds, faults, thrusts, etc.). These can just as easily be explained as being created in the same cataclysmic global event.
Studies show that much of the world's folded beds of sediment have no compression fractures, indicating that they were contorted while they were still wet and soft. For this to occur on a global scale, and on sediment thousands of metres thick, it would have required a catastrophic global flood.
Rocks of different geologic 'ages' have similar physical features indicating that they could have been created by a single worldwide event - such as a global flood.
There is an absence of physical evidence that indicates a time change between rocks of 'successive ages'. Sedimentary rock layers worldwide appear to have been laid down very quickly, as by a global flood.
Globally, there is an almost complete absence of any evidence of animal and plant root activity within the tiny layers of sediment. Slowly deposited layers should show this activity, flood deposits wouldn't.
All types of rocks (limestone, shale, granite, etc) occur in all geologic 'ages'. This indicates a common formation on a global scale - the situation that would have been created by the mixing of sediment in a global flood.
Many geological processes have a recent geological date. If the long-age evolutionary time scale is ignored, these processes would have occurred in the very recent past - as a result of the flood cataclysm.
Recent volcanic rocks are distributed widely. (see last point above)
There is a lack of correlation between radiometric 'ages' and assumed palaeontological 'ages' . A global flood could easily create an illusion of geologic 'ages'. The consequent conflict between dating methods confirms the illusion.
Fossil 'graveyards' are found worldwide, and in rocks of all 'ages'. Only a catastrophic global flood could achieve this.
The burial of fossil deposits worldwide had to have occurred in a catastrophic event. Only massive flooding could bury in such a fashion.
Marine fossils can be found on the crests of mountains. Apart from mountain uplifting, this can also be explained as the marine animals being washed there and then buried. A global flood could do this.
There is a worldwide distribution of most of the fossil types, indicating transportation on a global scale by a global flood.
Fossils from different 'ages' are often found mixed. This indicates a huge mixing of animal bones that is not consistent with a local flood.
Worldwide, fossils from different 'ages' are often found in the wrong order. This indicates a global mixing of fossils as a consequence of a global flood.
Supposed evolutionary fossil sequences often parallel the ecological zonation that occurs today . If a global flood mixed organisms from different areas, it would create the illusion of a fossil sequence over time.
Dinosaurs and many other prehistoric creatures died out suddenly (Fact). A catastrophe such as a global flood could have produced this result. The theory of a meteorite as well as a flood are both scientific theories and one or the other should not be ignored.
Polystrate fossils ( vertical fossil tree trunks) that are found worldwide indicate turbulent or rapid deposition. A global flood would be required to do this worldwide.
Polystrate fossils also form when water-logged timber sinks in a large body of water. A year long global flood could produce worldwide polystrate fossils formed in this way.
Animal tracks and other ephemeral markings (ripple-marks and raindrop imprints) have been preserved throughout the geological column. Rapid covering of these markings is required for this preservation worldwide - by a global flood.
Meteorites are basically absent from the geologic column. With the large number of meteorites hitting the earth each year, they should be very plentiful throughout the sedimentary rocks - unless much of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down in one year.
Sedimentary rocks contain fossil ripple-marks and raindrop imprints, but no hail imprints. A global flood (with associated rain), that was not caused by storms would not leave hail imprint marks.
Some desert areas show evidence of 'recent' water bodies. Water from a recent global flood would remain in large pools (bodies of water) for some time before evaporating.
There is evidence of a recent drastic rise in sea level. A global flood could easily have created this feature.
Raised shorelines are found worldwide indicating a time when the world had a different sea level. A consistent interpretation of this is that a global flood altered the levels of the oceans and seas.
Mountain-high water level marks found throughout the world are consistent with the recession of a global flood.
River terraces are found worldwide.
There is a universal occurrence of rivers in valleys too large for the present stream. Slow erosion over millions of years could not have created these valleys as the mountains would have eroded, keeping pace with the valley erosion. The drainage of global floodwaters from the land surface could easily create such wide valleys in a short period of time.
Only modern sediments show any evidence of surface drainage systems. If the majority of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down by a global flood there would not be any sign of drainage erosion except for the top layers eroded during the recession of the flood waters off the land.
Hydrologic evidence points to the rapid deposition of sedimentary rock layers. Therefore, the thousand's of metres of sediment must have been deposited by a catastrophic global flood.
Hydrologic evidence points to the world's sedimentary rocks being deposited in one continuous episode. All the layers could have been laid down by a single event, such as a global flood.
Hydrologic experiments show that flowing sediment automatically settles out in distinct layers. Therefore, sedimentary rock layers can be just as easily explained as flood debris, as slow deposition.
There is a worldwide occurrence of deep alluvial deposits and sedimentary rocks consistent with a huge global flood.
There is a near-random deposition of formational sequences.
Nowhere in the world is it possible to see the complete geologic column as a single structure. It is always found in bits and pieces, and mostly with pieces missing. Globally, a worldwide flood could create the illusion of a geologic column.
The oldest organisms still alive on Earth today, the Californian Redwoods, Sequoias and Bristlecone Pines, are around 3,000-4,000 years old. Nothing is older that the date of Noah's flood.

There is plenty of Archaeological evidence for the flood. As for a young earth I am still not convenced of a young earth science. So don't try to paint me as a young Earth believer like you tried to do in a earlier discussion that we had. I believe that the Earth is billions of years old.
I put the links that have carbon dating changes and challenges even though they are scientist's of a young earth. Their science discoveries should not be ignored like the mainstream who are also biased. The mainstream do not want to believe that there is a Creator and when evidence does prove it, it's buried in the college and science buildings basements and or put in the shelves and drawers to be ignored.
There is plenty of scientific evidence on both sides of a Global Flooding.

Excellent post Peach. I saw a movie on all of this as well as on the formation of the Grand Canyon. What really got to me though was those trees buried upright without having any roots. The is far more coal throughout the world right now even though we have been mining it for years than could be produced were all the trees currently present in todays world to be buried. For anyone who claims to believe in science to deny that something very major happened is laughable.

And of course, you know with certainty that:
"The is far more coal throughout the world right now even though we have been mining it for years than could be produced were all the trees currently present in todays world to be buried"

Well, because you just know those things.

You keep digging that hole you'll be able to tell us exactly how much coal there is down there.

Pointless.

 

[Hollie]

Hollie, I have to admit you are doing pretty well for someone with no knowledge of God but you are boring me. Quit boring people people Hollie! As I have said, knowing God is more than just like some random knowledge like the first twelve digits of pi. Jesus promises salvation but God promises a bountiful harvest. Could be why rulers like Jesus a lot more than God. A note of caution however. Right now we are merely playing with snakes and sticks. And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither harken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign. All of the LORD's prophets have been killed. Elijah is on the way.

This is not the thread for proselytizing.

Still looking up random words to answer the first question? You remember? The first question?, the one you are still dodging.

Come on, Hollow. Make up something. Anything. Just don't keep acting like you don't hear me. Makes you look stupid. We don't want you to make yourself look stupid, do we?

Ah, a name caller. That adds credibility to your posts.

Please, please, please, do not play the victim here. At least walk away with dignity.

You're getting desperate.

Where is the evidence for the Ark tales? Your childish name- calling diminishes you, not me.

 

[RandomVariable]

From the "about" section at your link:

"We are committed to sharing the truth about God and His promises. Amazing Discoveries™ began as a way for us to further spread this truth."

So yeah, at the bias is announced.

Can you link to peer reviewed papers published by AD?

No? So once again, this is just a thread for thumping, right?

New Evidence Suggests Biblical Great Flood of Noah s Time Happened Archaeologist Says - ABC News
https://www.icr.org/i/pdf/technical...r-a-Recent-Global-Flood-and-a-Young-Earth.pdf
Just Whose Science Is Todd Wood Stopping Uncommon Descent


Archaeological Science
There is a worldwide tradition among natives of a global flood.
According to current archaeological evidence, civilization appears to have originated in the Ararat/Babylon region.
The genealogical records of many of the European kings can be traced back to Japheth, son of Noah.
An analysis of population growth statistics confirms that there was zero population at the estimated time of the end of the flood. This indicates the global demise of humans by Noah's flood.
Human palaeontological evidence exists even in the earliest geologic 'ages' ( human footprints in Cambrian, Carboniferous, and Cretaceous rocks). If the layers of rock were laid down by a global flood and then interpreted as evolutionary long-ages, human remains and artifact's would appear to be in such positions.
The most ancient human artefacts date to the post-flood era. This indicates that the earlier hardware could have been buried beyond reach by a huge flood.
Calculations have shown that there is nearly the same amount of organic material present today, worldwide, as there would have been if all the fossils were still alive. This indicates the demise of all living things in a single global event.
Palaeontological evidence indicates that the early earth had a warm/humid climate. This is consistent with the destruction of the old atmosphere by the processes of a global flood as described in Genesis.
The glacial period started very quickly. This would require a cataclysmic event such as a global flood to trigger such a rapid climatic change.
Similar geologic formations exist in rocks of all ages ( rifts, folds, faults, thrusts, etc.). These can just as easily be explained as being created in the same cataclysmic global event.
Studies show that much of the world's folded beds of sediment have no compression fractures, indicating that they were contorted while they were still wet and soft. For this to occur on a global scale, and on sediment thousands of metres thick, it would have required a catastrophic global flood.
Rocks of different geologic 'ages' have similar physical features indicating that they could have been created by a single worldwide event - such as a global flood.
There is an absence of physical evidence that indicates a time change between rocks of 'successive ages'. Sedimentary rock layers worldwide appear to have been laid down very quickly, as by a global flood.
Globally, there is an almost complete absence of any evidence of animal and plant root activity within the tiny layers of sediment. Slowly deposited layers should show this activity, flood deposits wouldn't.
All types of rocks (limestone, shale, granite, etc) occur in all geologic 'ages'. This indicates a common formation on a global scale - the situation that would have been created by the mixing of sediment in a global flood.
Many geological processes have a recent geological date. If the long-age evolutionary time scale is ignored, these processes would have occurred in the very recent past - as a result of the flood cataclysm.
Recent volcanic rocks are distributed widely. (see last point above)
There is a lack of correlation between radiometric 'ages' and assumed palaeontological 'ages' . A global flood could easily create an illusion of geologic 'ages'. The consequent conflict between dating methods confirms the illusion.
Fossil 'graveyards' are found worldwide, and in rocks of all 'ages'. Only a catastrophic global flood could achieve this.
The burial of fossil deposits worldwide had to have occurred in a catastrophic event. Only massive flooding could bury in such a fashion.
Marine fossils can be found on the crests of mountains. Apart from mountain uplifting, this can also be explained as the marine animals being washed there and then buried. A global flood could do this.
There is a worldwide distribution of most of the fossil types, indicating transportation on a global scale by a global flood.
Fossils from different 'ages' are often found mixed. This indicates a huge mixing of animal bones that is not consistent with a local flood.
Worldwide, fossils from different 'ages' are often found in the wrong order. This indicates a global mixing of fossils as a consequence of a global flood.
Supposed evolutionary fossil sequences often parallel the ecological zonation that occurs today . If a global flood mixed organisms from different areas, it would create the illusion of a fossil sequence over time.
Dinosaurs and many other prehistoric creatures died out suddenly (Fact). A catastrophe such as a global flood could have produced this result. The theory of a meteorite as well as a flood are both scientific theories and one or the other should not be ignored.
Polystrate fossils ( vertical fossil tree trunks) that are found worldwide indicate turbulent or rapid deposition. A global flood would be required to do this worldwide.
Polystrate fossils also form when water-logged timber sinks in a large body of water. A year long global flood could produce worldwide polystrate fossils formed in this way.
Animal tracks and other ephemeral markings (ripple-marks and raindrop imprints) have been preserved throughout the geological column. Rapid covering of these markings is required for this preservation worldwide - by a global flood.
Meteorites are basically absent from the geologic column. With the large number of meteorites hitting the earth each year, they should be very plentiful throughout the sedimentary rocks - unless much of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down in one year.
Sedimentary rocks contain fossil ripple-marks and raindrop imprints, but no hail imprints. A global flood (with associated rain), that was not caused by storms would not leave hail imprint marks.
Some desert areas show evidence of 'recent' water bodies. Water from a recent global flood would remain in large pools (bodies of water) for some time before evaporating.
There is evidence of a recent drastic rise in sea level. A global flood could easily have created this feature.
Raised shorelines are found worldwide indicating a time when the world had a different sea level. A consistent interpretation of this is that a global flood altered the levels of the oceans and seas.
Mountain-high water level marks found throughout the world are consistent with the recession of a global flood.
River terraces are found worldwide.
There is a universal occurrence of rivers in valleys too large for the present stream. Slow erosion over millions of years could not have created these valleys as the mountains would have eroded, keeping pace with the valley erosion. The drainage of global floodwaters from the land surface could easily create such wide valleys in a short period of time.
Only modern sediments show any evidence of surface drainage systems. If the majority of the world's sedimentary rocks were laid down by a global flood there would not be any sign of drainage erosion except for the top layers eroded during the recession of the flood waters off the land.
Hydrologic evidence points to the rapid deposition of sedimentary rock layers. Therefore, the thousand's of metres of sediment must have been deposited by a catastrophic global flood.
Hydrologic evidence points to the world's sedimentary rocks being deposited in one continuous episode. All the layers could have been laid down by a single event, such as a global flood.
Hydrologic experiments show that flowing sediment automatically settles out in distinct layers. Therefore, sedimentary rock layers can be just as easily explained as flood debris, as slow deposition.
There is a worldwide occurrence of deep alluvial deposits and sedimentary rocks consistent with a huge global flood.
There is a near-random deposition of formational sequences.
Nowhere in the world is it possible to see the complete geologic column as a single structure. It is always found in bits and pieces, and mostly with pieces missing. Globally, a worldwide flood could create the illusion of a geologic column.
The oldest organisms still alive on Earth today, the Californian Redwoods, Sequoias and Bristlecone Pines, are around 3,000-4,000 years old. Nothing is older that the date of Noah's flood.

There is plenty of Archaeological evidence for the flood. As for a young earth I am still not convenced of a young earth science. So don't try to paint me as a young Earth believer like you tried to do in a earlier discussion that we had. I believe that the Earth is billions of years old.
I put the links that have carbon dating changes and challenges even though they are scientist's of a young earth. Their science discoveries should not be ignored like the mainstream who are also biased. The mainstream do not want to believe that there is a Creator and when evidence does prove it, it's buried in the college and science buildings basements and or put in the shelves and drawers to be ignored.
There is plenty of scientific evidence on both sides of a Global Flooding.

Excellent post Peach. I saw a movie on all of this as well as on the formation of the Grand Canyon. What really got to me though was those trees buried upright without having any roots. The is far more coal throughout the world right now even though we have been mining it for years than could be produced were all the trees currently present in todays world to be buried. For anyone who claims to believe in science to deny that something very major happened is laughable.

And of course, you know with certainty that:
"The is far more coal throughout the world right now even though we have been mining it for years than could be produced were all the trees currently present in todays world to be buried"

Well, because you just know those things.

You keep digging that hole you'll be able to tell us exactly how much coal there is down there.

Pointless.

You call that throwing the ball back in my court? Or just trying to buy yourself some time.

You should read Song of Solomon. Great stuff.

 

[RandomVariable]

Hollie, I have to admit you are doing pretty well for someone with no knowledge of God but you are boring me. Quit boring people people Hollie! As I have said, knowing God is more than just like some random knowledge like the first twelve digits of pi. Jesus promises salvation but God promises a bountiful harvest. Could be why rulers like Jesus a lot more than God. A note of caution however. Right now we are merely playing with snakes and sticks. And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither harken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign. All of the LORD's prophets have been killed. Elijah is on the way.

This is not the thread for proselytizing.

Still looking up random words to answer the first question? You remember? The first question?, the one you are still dodging.

Come on, Hollow. Make up something. Anything. Just don't keep acting like you don't hear me. Makes you look stupid. We don't want you to make yourself look stupid, do we?

Ah, a name caller. That adds credibility to your posts.

Please, please, please, do not play the victim here. At least walk away with dignity.

You're getting desperate.

Where is the evidence for the Ark tales? Your childish name- calling diminishes you, not me.

You tried to jump on this track to get out of answering the first question once already. I think let you chase your own tail for a while. You are boring me.