Question for all "gun" control advocates.

Look at the bump stock FFS. 90% of you idiots didnt even know what it was before vegas. All it took is ONE TIME.


Yeah....we rely on fuck heads like you to "inform" us on the latest inventions to make you feel all manly inside......LOL

I remember the gun nuts telling us how assault rifles aren't that dangerous and just look mean. I don't hear that after Orlando and Vegas and Texas...
They arent dangerous. Its an inanimate object..

And they sure are used to kill many really quickly.
 
No one wants to ban all guns.

The problem is firepower, both speed and magazine size.

The other problem is that the NRA does not want background checks. The republicans claim they do, but never allocate the funds to get er done. This is how scumbags escape the background checks.

There are no background checks on so called gun shows or when a good guy with a gun needs to get rid of his old toys.

I am willing to bet every gun used in a crime came from a good guy with a gun who got rid of it.

Nothing will change until republicans start to love their children more than the NRA
 
No one wants to ban all guns.

The problem is firepower, both speed and magazine size.

The other problem is that the NRA does not want background checks. The republicans claim they do, but never allocate the funds to get er done. This is how scumbags escape the background checks.

There are no background checks on so called gun shows or when a good guy with a gun needs to get rid of his old toys.

I am willing to bet every gun used in a crime came from a good guy with a gun who got rid of it.

Nothing will change until republicans start to love their children more than the NRA
gun shows = ALL dealers must run background checks.
Saying "gun shows" makes you look retarded because all that means is non dealer transfers. Like giving my son a shotgun.
There is NO gun show loophole.
 
Look at the bump stock FFS. 90% of you idiots didnt even know what it was before vegas. All it took is ONE TIME.


Yeah....we rely on fuck heads like you to "inform" us on the latest inventions to make you feel all manly inside......LOL

I remember the gun nuts telling us how assault rifles aren't that dangerous and just look mean. I don't hear that after Orlando and Vegas and Texas...
They arent dangerous. Its an inanimate object..
Assault rifles are nothing more than murder machines.

Real men don't need them to hunt or target practice on.
 
[B said:
The shooter was mentally defective, discharged from service assaulted 11 month old child and if he didn't have guns he would have used something else!
Don't you understand this is fundamental! There is a solution. You don't seem to comprehend that. You want more gun laws... and look where that has gotten us![/B]

The above IDIOT is trying to blame mass shootings on sane people's desire to have "more gun laws".........How fucked up these right wingers have become...

Yeah, the shooter could have found some other means as to best kill 26 people....BUT, its just a bit tougher with a knife or a broom and THANKS to idiots like you, you make the killer's life EASIER.....
A truck driving down bike path in NY killed 8 people!
 
[B said:
The shooter was mentally defective, discharged from service assaulted 11 month old child and if he didn't have guns he would have used something else!
Don't you understand this is fundamental! There is a solution. You don't seem to comprehend that. You want more gun laws... and look where that has gotten us![/B]

The above IDIOT is trying to blame mass shootings on sane people's desire to have "more gun laws".........How fucked up these right wingers have become...

Yeah, the shooter could have found some other means as to best kill 26 people....BUT, its just a bit tougher with a knife or a broom and THANKS to idiots like you, you make the killer's life EASIER.....
A truck driving down bike path in NY killed 8 people!
Which is larger

8 or 26 or 58?

Hmmmm?
 
With this recent church shooting and 26 dead the controversy regarding "gun control" comes up.
As more information about the shooter comes out the more it appears "gun control" measures weren't suffice.
So given the rise especially from the MSM clamoring for more "gun control"... what is ns"?
Do the advocates for "gun control" want ALL guns confiscated? No more "gun" sales?
Explain what the ultimate solution to 100% elimination of future events like what happened in Texas on Sunday, in Las Vegas, et.al. mass "shootings" would be.

I really honestly want a dialogue as to how to 100% eradicate future mass shootings.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/mass-shootings-in-america-a-historical-review/5355990
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The premise of your question calls for "the ultimate solution to 100% elimination of future events like what happened in Texas on Sunday, in Las Vegas".

That is a false and misleading premise for the arguments concerning gun control. No law is a panacea. We have enacted laws to reduce the incidence of drunk driving, yet it persists. We have enacted laws to reduce violent crime, yet it persists. Don't allow the search for perfection to impede the necessity for the good.
 
With this recent church shooting and 26 dead the controversy regarding "gun control" comes up.
As more information about the shooter comes out the more it appears "gun control" measures weren't suffice.
So given the rise especially from the MSM clamoring for more "gun control"... what is the mechanism that would entirely eliminate ONCE and for ALL theses kinds of incidents done with "guns"?
Do the advocates for "gun control" want ALL guns confiscated? No more "gun" sales?
Explain what the ultimate solution to 100% elimination of future events like what happened in Texas on Sunday, in Las Vegas, et.al. mass "shootings" would be.

I really honestly want a dialogue as to how to 100% eradicate future mass shootings.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/mass-shootings-in-america-a-historical-review/5355990
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MORE GOVT IS NOT THE ANSWER.

The Church shooting happened because THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FAILED TO FO ITS JOB.

The US military failed to report the individual's crimes as a felony, thus it was never entered into the system that would have prevented him from purchasing / owning guns.
 


AND to prove his point, the above idiot provides a link to a fellow idiot's opinion..LOL
here you go, nat. I'll do the reading for you:

"Our ultimate goal -- total control of handguns in the United States -- is going to take time. My estimate is from seven to 10 years. The first problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns being produced and sold in this country. The second problem is to get handguns registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition -- except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors -- totally illegal."
~Nelson Shields, founder of Handgun Control, Inc.,

"You will not feel safe, your children will not be safe, until there are almost no guns on the streets and in homes. No guns, period, except for those held by law enforcement officers and a few others, including qualified hunters and collectors. ... We must, as a nation, move toward a very different model, one that presumptively bars private citizens from owning a firearm unless they can demonstrate a special need and ability to do so. ... We think the time has come for Americans to tell the truth about guns. They are not for us; we cannot handle them. They kill people, our children included. It's time to get rid of them. Period."
LA Times Editorial, 1993

"Australia had a huge mass killing about 20, 25 years ago. Canada did as well, so did the UK. In reaction, they passed much stricter gun laws. ... The Australian government as part of trying to clamp down on the availability of automatic weapons, offered a good price for buying hundreds of thousands of guns and basically clamped down going forward, in terms of having more of a background check approach -- more of a permitting approach."
~Hillary Rotten Clinton, 2016
 
I wasn't for or against assault weapons. I am trying to reach a more fundamental solution rather then some archaic, cliched emotionally weak argument "ban all guns" or "ban assault weapons". Fundamentally I guess you still think the assault weapon fires itself. That this weapon has a mind of it's own and the trigger goes off. I guess what I'm pointing out which has gone over your head is that putting more gun laws on the books isn't the answer.
In this case it was a clerical error that the guy was able to acquire guns. But to simplistically as "gun ban" enthusiasts are wont to be, "ban all guns" doesn't solve the fundamental problem of the individual who pulls the trigger or drives the truck in NY killing 8 people... where are you on "banning all trucks"? After all the truck didn't drive itself.
You see how lubricous the argument for "banning all guns" becomes? It's not the guns it's the people and the 24 hour news cycle that blows the rare exception event out of proportion. Where is the similar angst about this fact?
Weekend Violence

Police have also emphasized that most guns used in Chicago crimes were bought outside of the city or state, where regulations are not as strict.
Does Chicago Have The Strictest Gun Laws in the Country?


Again with the straw-man bullshit argument about "BANNING ALL GUNS"????

Yes, the Founding fathers did NOT ban assault weapons with the 2nd amendment, and neither did they ban armed drones...
One has to wonder why???...LOL
You are missing the point entirely!!!! It has nothing to do with an inanimate object that by itself can not go off!
So why are people like you wanting to BAN an inanimate object? Again why not ban trucks? Knives? Etc... all used in mass killings. ONLY guns seem to bring out people like you that think just one more gun law, one more restriction yea that's the ticket! Bullshit! The existing LAWS are not being followed 100% as in this case!
The shooter was mentally defective, discharged from service assaulted 11 month old child and if he didn't have guns he would have used something else!
Don't you understand this is fundamental! There is a solution. You don't seem to comprehend that. You want more gun laws... and look where that has gotten us!
What could he have used to kill or maim the 40+ people in that church in a matter of a few minutes? Don't say a bomb; those are actually tricky to make and most homicidal maniacs don't know how and have no interest in learning.
A truck!
Look at the picture then imagine that truck in the picture driving in the front door, and smashing dozens of people at once!
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pure hackery

the intended purpose of a truck is not to kill.

the intended purpose of a gun IS to kill.

I don't want to get rid of all guns. I just want scum who shouldn't HAVE a gun not to be able to get one.

why are you idiots so dug in on this?

Well see even with the existing laws, this scum got a gun because of a data entry failure! That simple. So your solution though is MORE laws or just get rid of all guns?
But then who will have the guns? People that don't obey the laws! No the reality is we'll have more of these incidents because what the MSM has done with the 24 hr news cycle
is glamorized these killers! It's a sport for them...seeing their names in the limelight.
Accept the fact like the fact 40,000 people were killed in car accidents in 2016. Where is your angst over that?
Let's ban cars as they kill more then these evil dummies have done.
But see the majority of people advocating gun bans don't seem to have the same attitude about cars and why is that? Because you and they have cars!
That's illogical of the "gun ban" crowd... ok to kill 40,000 people but wow less the 100 are killed in gun violence! Doesn't that just seem out of whack?
 
And to prove he is an idiot, the above poster doesn't read the quotes of the leftists stating they want a full ban, but instead attacks the source without justification.


Only a right wing moron would go searching for an equally stupid left winger to DECLARE that such is the belief of all lefties.......

The equivalent of me telling YOU that since both you and KKK members endorsed Trump....you too must be wearing a fucking hood.
 

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