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So you deny Iran does pay for, recruit , train and arm terrorists? That Syria does not either, You claim that what I said is wrong?
Several million people are not miniscule no matter the base they come from.
you SAID "there are THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of Iranians that would willingly conduct terror attacks." and I SAID you got nothing to substantiate that wildass claim.
And the fact that the government of Iran supports shiite nationalist groups in Lebanon does NOT mean that every swinging dick in Iran is, therefore a terrorist.
I dispute your "several million" number completely and note that it still smells like warmshit from when you just pulled it out of your well traveled ass.
And once again... you complete inability to distinquish between arab nationalist organizations and islamic extremist organizations is stunningly stupid.
We were talking about Jimmy Carter. Stay on subject, please.That's silliness....
More likely our support of the Shah who was oppressing his people contributed. We have always known that a percentage of the muslim populaton believed in jihad. But giving them a basis to recruit normal people probably didn't help.
It's Bush who didn't listen to the intel reports that his father knew about as far back as Gulf I. The anticipated results of destabilization of Iraq was the reason BushI didn't go to Baghdad. Of course, baby Bush didn't listen to "his father", he asked "THE FATHER" and decided to ignore everything we knew.
When reading the historical record and realizing Carter laid the foundation for radical Islam, the answer is he killed thousands for oil, you were most likely not born when "Desert One" happened or you'd not ask such a silly question, and his refusal to listen to the Intel reports about the rising Islamic problem means he killed thousands. Listen--why don't you go to the used book store and pick up a copy of Guest of the Ayatollah, read it, learn a few things, come back and we can talk about it. Carter is, and was, no saint--regardless what the radical Democratic left says.
The Last Helicopter
Hassan Abbasi, (the maverick and self-appointed Head of the Revolutionary Guards Doctrinal Centre for National Security) has a dream -- a helicopter doing an arabesque in cloudy skies to avoid being shot at from the ground. On board are the last of the "fleeing Americans," forced out of the Dar al-Islam (The Abode of Islam) by "the Army of Muhammad." Presented by his friends as "The Dr. Kissinger of Islam," Mr. Abbasi is "professor of strategy" at the Islamic Republic's Revolutionary Guard Corps University and, according to Tehran sources, the principal foreign policy voice in President Mahmoud Ahmadi Nezhad's new radical administration.
By Amir Taheri
Washington (The Wall Street Journal) Hassan Abbasi, (the maverick and self-appointed Head of the Revolutionary Guards Doctrinal Centre for National Security) has a dream -- a helicopter doing an arabesque in cloudy skies to avoid being shot at from the ground. On board are the last of the "fleeing Americans," forced out of the Dar al-Islam (The Abode of Islam) by "the Army of Muhammad." Presented by his friends as "The Dr. Kissinger of Islam," Mr. Abbasi is "professor of strategy" at the Islamic Republic's Revolutionary Guard Corps University and, according to Tehran sources, the principal foreign policy voice in President Mahmoud Ahmadi Nezhad's new radical administration.
For the past several weeks Mr. Abbasi has been addressing crowds of Guard and Baseej Mostazafin (Mobilization of the Dispossessed) officers in Tehran with a simple theme: The U.S. does not have the stomach for a long conflict and will soon revert to its traditional policy of "running away", leaving Afghanistan and Iraq, indeed the whole of the Middle East, to be reshaped by Iran and its regional allies.
The U.S. does not have the stomach for a long conflict and will soon revert to its traditional policy of "running away".
To hear Mr. Abbasi tell it the entire recent history of the U.S. could be narrated with the help of the image of "the last helicopter". It was that image in Saigon that concluded the Vietnam War under Gerald Ford. Jimmy Carter had five helicopters fleeing from the Iranian desert, leaving behind the charred corpses of eight American soldiers. Under Ronald Reagan the helicopters carried the bodies of 241 Marines murdered in their sleep in a Hezbollah suicide attack. Under the first President Bush, the helicopter flew from Safwan, in southern Iraq, with Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf aboard, leaving behind Saddam Hussein's generals, who could not believe why they had been allowed live to fight their domestic foes, and America, another day. Bill Clinton's helicopter was a Black Hawk, downed in Mogadishu and delivering 16 American soldiers into the hands of a murderous crowd.
According to this theory, President George W. Bush is an "aberration", a leader out of sync with his nation's character and no more than a brief nightmare for those who oppose the creation of an "American Middle East". Messrs. Abbasi and Ahmadi Nezhad have concluded that there will be no helicopter as long as George W. Bush is in the White House. But they believe that whoever succeeds him, Democrat or Republican, will revive the helicopter image to extricate the U.S. from a complex situation that few Americans appear to understand.
Mr. Ahmadi Nezhad's defiant rhetoric is based on a strategy known in Middle Eastern capitals as "waiting Bush out." "We are sure the U.S. will return to saner policies," says Manuchehr Motakki, Iran's new Foreign Minister....
Why does it not follow?
So, you agree that those that blame the majority of guns/owners for the misus(es) of the tiny minority are wrong.
Your such an idiot, its a wonder you can walk and chew gum at the same time...
KHARTOUM, Sudan (AP) - Thousands of Sudanese, many armed with clubs and swords and beating drums, burned pictures of a British teacher Friday and demanded her execution for insulting Islam by letting her students name a teddy bear Muhammad.
Sudan's Islamic government, which has long whipped up anti-Western, Muslim hard-line sentiment at home, was balancing between fueling outrage over the case of Gillian Gibbons and containing it.
Many in the protesting crowd shouted "Kill her! Kill her by firing squad!"
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All this over a damn stuffed bear, the rank and file, ordinary Muslims in a freekin uproar, protesting by the thousands......and being the fool you are, think its but a small handful of Muslims that are the fanatics.....
You saw them dance in the streets on 9/11 by the tens of thousands in Muslim cities throughout the ME and saw them march demanding the death of a school teacher because of a trumped up slight to their religion....so your silly claim of only a handful of them are nuts, only shows your stupidity on the subject.....Its moderate Muslims that are the minority and the vast majority of them only differ in the degree of their fanaticism.....
the sudanese would have demanded the death penalty for an islamic school teacher who did the same thing. That is not an example of any deep seated hatred for the west, it is an example of people with strong beliefs about disrespecting THEIR deity in THEIR country. That would never happen in Lebanon or Jordan or Syria or Egypt, by the way.
Bullshit.....but even if they would, it still shows how freekin' radical they are.....
and... if you could show me some evidence of thousands of sudanese training to fly planes into AMERICAN buildings or blow themselves up on AMERICAN street corners, that would we real nice.
Trying to change the subject ain't gonna work
and no... we did NOT see them dance in the streets by the tens of thousands on 9/11. That is pure fantasy.
More Maineman BULLSHIT
and I think it is really hilarious how someone like you who has never been NEAR the middle east can claim to have such an in-depth understanding of the varying beliefs of the muslims in the region. You are, and have always been a fucking blowhard jerk since your days as "write" on politics.com.... hopping around like a little bantam rooster with one foot in your beak.
But, there ARE "many" people targeting 'us'. ~70,000 or so.Okay, once again...just because there aren't many people targeting you doesn't mean you shouldn't defend yourself against the ones who are.
does that mean that "defending oneself against the ones who are" equates to rolling the whole damn population through the coals of scapegoating and demonization, degradation and indignation?
Celebrations of the September 11, 2001 attacks
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Happens to gun owners all the time.
the sudanese would have demanded the death penalty for an islamic school teacher who did the same thing. That is not an example of any deep seated hatred for the west, it is an example of people with strong beliefs about disrespecting THEIR deity in THEIR country. That would never happen in Lebanon or Jordan or Syria or Egypt, by the way.
and... if you could show me some evidence of thousands of sudanese training to fly planes into AMERICAN buildings or blow themselves up on AMERICAN street corners, that would we real nice.
and no... we did NOT see them dance in the streets by the tens of thousands on 9/11. That is pure fantasy.
and I think it is really hilarious how someone like you who has never been NEAR the middle east can claim to have such an in-depth understanding of the varying beliefs of the muslims in the region. You are, and have always been a fucking blowhard jerk since your days as "write" on politics.com.... hopping around like a little bantam rooster with one foot in your beak.
An in-depth understanding, a deep compassion, and enduring empathy is not required to recognize an enemy. And in fact, people who immerse themselves in the culture of an enemy are really likely to get killed.
please highlight, in a color that Kathianne can read, where the tens of thousands figure is listed in your wiki article or is that just more of "write's" sloppy poetic license?
I'll wait.
Actually, no. I think the "ragheads", as you so thoughtfully call them, by and large want us to wipe out the animals that are terrorizing their people and ours....
