Questions For Christians: The Trinity

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That is why the Apostle Paul emphasizes that Christians all have the same mind and heart, in the Spirit, being of ONE accord. When the Earth and the ways of the Earth is shouting danger danger, but Christians are shouting, 'safety safety,' then the True Prophets of God say, Danger Danger instead of Safety Safety. God speaks Truth not watered down 'flatteries.'

A good example would be of the Prophet Jeremiah. Jeremiah was sent to preach 'danger danger' if they did not submit to the King of Babylon. Whereas all the other Prophets said that no danger would come upon Israel. And because Jeremiah was seen as 'outside' the general consensus, he was thrown into a mud well and was sought after to be killed. Does this sound like Jesus also?

 

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The reason why the normal class people don't want to believe in any kind of real danger, is because they have not known the 'Fear of the Lord.'

 

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Although God is the Most Beneficent Triune One in the Universe, They also care too much to not correct those They Love.
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
-Genesis 1:26

 

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Although God is the Most Beneficent Triune One in the Universe, They also care too much to not correct those They Love.
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
-Genesis 1:26

So I guess this would answer the original question that was posted...

 

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My next question would be this: Now that they have received the information, what are they going to do?

 

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2 Timothy:

3:5
"Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.


3:6
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,


3:7
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.


3:8
Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.


3:9
But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was."

 

[HaShev]

Note Forum flooding to hide problematic revealing posts is a sign of defeat.=not fooling anyone)

Back on topic the TRINITY.
Their NT says God will give you another with a new name, so thats 4 not 3 and really 5 since they never recognized the body-face of the first return. Of course that would be insulting to Mormons who's faith believed he returned to the Americas that would make 6 in 1, so much for the trinity.
Try similarity reasoning to comprehend:
Daniel receives a message from the angel of the Lord is Daniel 3 in 1?
Moses receives a message from the angel of the lord is he 3 in 1?
Is the burning bush 3 in 1?
If Lord= is King in the Olam Habah thus the high Priest in the Mikdash to come then
1-God (already understood as the Essence), 2-high priest (Lord=king)the highest reflection of that Essence that's 2 not 3 and not 1because the high priest didn't create this world or else you'd call him crazy just as anyone who does make that statement would be silly. Right Christians who claim Jesus the creator yet couldn't create a rope cutter or weapon to defeat Rome.

 

[LittleNipper]

Note Forum flooding to hide problematic revealing posts is a sign of defeat.=not fooling anyone)

Back on topic the TRINITY.
Their NT says God will give you another with a new name, so thats 4 not 3 and really 5 since they never recognized the body-face of the first return. Of course that would be insulting to Mormons who's faith believed he returned to the Americas that would make 6 in 1, so much for the trinity.
Try similarity reasoning to comprehend:
Daniel receives a message from the angel of the Lord is Daniel 3 in 1?
Moses receives a message from the angel of the lord is he 3 in 1?
Is the burning bush 3 in 1?
If Lord= is King in the Olam Habah thus the high Priest in the Mikdash to come then
1-God (already understood as the Essence), 2-high priest (Lord=king)the highest reflection of that Essence that's 2 not 3 and not 1because the high priest didn't create this world or else you'd call him crazy just as anyone who does make that statement would be silly. Right Christians who claim Jesus the creator yet couldn't create a rope cutter or weapon to defeat Rome.

The Messiah came to be the FINAL perfect sacrifice. This is exactly why the curtain was torn in half from the top down in the temple Holy of Holies --- when Jesus gave up His spirit on the cross. He didn't come to end Roman rule. In fact, He came to save even the gentiles. Christianity ended a pagan monopoly among the gentiles. Christ will return with the once dead righteous to set up His Kingdom from Jerusalem to rule for 1 thousand years. It is then that Babylon (World government) will be overthrown and a Theocracy will be instituted. A sign of His return will be One World Government under the Anti-Christ (who by the way has his very own copycat trinity).

 

[LittleNipper]

Hobelim, singular in the Goyisha text or the Hebrew? Used once vs 13times and you choose selectively?
1) Still can't be the man served not serving.
2)Isaiah already calls another Moshiach.
3)Isaiah already calls Jesus the forbidden idol (44)and also the fallen one aka Lucifer(14).

Little Nipper: you used Satan's own text to argue over the topic of calling one the devil when Satan himself calls Jesus the son of the devil twice.- Acts & Rev 22:16
However you didn't prove your point you only shot yourself in the foot and killed your king, Check mate!
1)There is no historical acct of the
Sanhedrin saying that, even in your own self testimony text.
The commentary leadong people to believe that is done to demonize the ones Rome was stealing and impostering from.
Spmething rhey did with many cultures to claim themselves the new spiritual authority. You being a good little guppy bought the tactic hook line and sinker=thus called the Fosh they the fishers of men reel in.
*insert hitting your own forehead now in embarassment*

Sorry, but Satan is a copycat who is called the morning star, as is the Messiah called the morning star. The difference is Satan was created. The Messiah is eternal. They are both referred to as a devouring lion. Satan is not one to be original when it comes to mimicry of GOD. Satan fancies himself usurping God.

 

[HaShev]

Obviously you have no clue what the
Morning Star is and why it's used symbolically
otherwise you would not state that.
Fact: The planet venus represented both archangels (top prophet messengers) the fallen arc of venus called morning star symbolized lucifers fall while the rising arc of the planet Evening Star represented
Michael's rise-Dan 12:1-4.
The name of the Holy City =Shalem is dedicated to the Evening Star the name David names his 2 sons after.
The legend of how the city of Shalem becomes the city of Shalom is when the NIGHT (star)overturns and removes the Day(star).
But On the subject the adversary
Morning Star was Baal's son and Ishtar's (easter) son. Baal's wife was Isis and she is basically another cultures mimick of Ishtar so said to be the same. Furthermore Morning Star is the adversary to Shalem (Evening Star) thus adversary of God and top messenger. To call yourself Morning Star is to call yourself the fallen false prophet Lucifer son of Baal adversary of God and Michael.
Hence celebration of the Morning Star on Baal's special day(Dec 25th) as father and son are the same Mythology as found through ancient tablets predating the Jesus myth(circa 700bc sitting in the Brittish Museum for display).
So Now we know the secret of the number of his name;
Baal Jesus=666 in ascll used to secret numbers from names.
Claiming to be all knowing and yet calling himself Baal's son Lucifer is priceless and game over unarguable!
They are liars, father of all lies so ypu are trying to deceive people in the same lie even though you kbow nothing about the subject you WILLINGLY spew false info for sake of the adversary. You basically are the Luciferians 1/3 deceived on your first fallen christ.
So we have the prophetic message more fully confirmed. You will do well to be attentive to this *as to a lamp shining in a dark place*, until the day dawns and the morning star (LUCIFER)rises in your hearts.” -- 2 Peter 1:19

“... from my Father. To the one who conquers(DESTROYS) I will also give the morning star(LUCIFER).” -- Revelation 2:28

· Revelation 22:16 I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify these things in the churches.
· I am the bright and Morning Star (lucifer)


bright(top/arch)morning (Baal)
star(angel=messenger/ prophet)

[See Lucifer here etymology of "": "[ the morning star, a fallen rebel archangel, THE Devil, fr. OE. fr. Latin, the morning star, fr. Lucifer light-bearing, fr. luc light + -fer -ferous--more at LIGHT]" (Webster's, p.677)

 

[LittleNipper]

Obviously you have no clue what the
Morning Star is and why it's used symbolically
otherwise you would not state that.
Fact: The planet venus represented both archangels (top prophet messengers) the fallen arc of venus called morning star symbolized lucifers fall while the rising arc of the planet Evening Star represented
Michael's rise-Dan 12:1-4.
The name of the Holy City =Shalem is dedicated to the Evening Star the name David names his 2 sons after.
The legend of how the city of Shalem becomes the city of Shalom is when the NIGHT (star)overturns and removes the Day(star).
But On the subject the adversary
Morning Star was Baal's son and Ishtar's (easter) son. Baal's wife was Isis and she is basically another cultures mimick of Ishtar so said to be the same. Furthermore Morning Star is the adversary to Shalem (Evening Star) thus adversary of God and top messenger. To call yourself Morning Star is to call yourself the fallen false prophet Lucifer son of Baal adversary of God and Michael.
Hence celebration of the Morning Star on Baal's special day(Dec 25th) as father and son are the same Mythology as found through ancient tablets predating the Jesus myth(circa 700bc sitting in the Brittish Museum for display).
So Now we know the secret of the number of his name;
Baal Jesus=666 in ascll used to secret numbers from names.
Claiming to be all knowing and yet calling himself Baal's son Lucifer is priceless and game over unarguable!
They are liars, father of all lies so ypu are trying to deceive people in the same lie even though you kbow nothing about the subject you WILLINGLY spew false info for sake of the adversary. You basically are the Luciferians 1/3 deceived on your first fallen christ.
So we have the prophetic message more fully confirmed. You will do well to be attentive to this *as to a lamp shining in a dark place*, until the day dawns and the morning star (LUCIFER)rises in your hearts.” -- 2 Peter 1:19

“... from my Father. To the one who conquers(DESTROYS) I will also give the morning star(LUCIFER).” -- Revelation 2:28

· Revelation 22:16 I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify these things in the churches.
· I am the bright and Morning Star (lucifer)


bright(top/arch)morning (Baal)
star(angel=messenger/ prophet)

[See Lucifer here etymology of "": "[ the morning star, a fallen rebel archangel, THE Devil, fr. OE. fr. Latin, the morning star, fr. Lucifer light-bearing, fr. luc light + -fer -ferous--more at LIGHT]" (Webster's, p.677)

The Bright Morning Star goes to the misnomer of "Lucifer", which is an incorrect title for Satan or the Devil taken from the King James Version of Isaiah 14:12. Were it not for this odd transliteration, "Lucifer" would not exist as a term in English, and there would be no confusion on the matter. As it is, we need to be careful, I would suggest, in using the term to describe who the Bible calls "Satan" or "the Devil". Most Christians are onto this, yet still the term "Lucifer" persists. In any case, the "morning star" is the title of Christ throughout the rest of Scripture.

2Pet 1:19 (NIV) And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
Rev 2:28 (NIV) I will also give him the morning star.
Rev 22:16 (NIV) "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."


Since it is clear that Jesus is the "Bright Morning Star" (even said so Himself) then how should we understand Isaiah 14:12?
Isa 14:12-15 (NIV) How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit.


This should be understood as a sardonic title for the "anti-christ" or beast. He claims to be "christ", right? He claims to be Messiah, and has his moment under the sun, but comes to be brought low ultimately. Contrast the real Bright Morning Star: He lives humbly, does not boast, is not arrogant, is submissive to the Father... even unto death. Then the Father raises Him to the highest place; in the morning so to speak.
Mat 23:12 "For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted."


Jesus lives out the gospel: death first, resurrection second. Satan wants it all now, and will go down ultimately. Satan looks good at night, but goes down in flames in the morning. Jesus is in the tomb, but arises in the morning. Do you see the pattern? Who is your life most like? What are we encouraging in others, to follow Christ in the gospel, or to grab all you can now? The difference is as wide as Jesus and Satan.
In any case, "Lucifer" means "morning star", so it should not be used to describe Satan. Jesus is The Morning Star. Satan tries to look like Jesus and supplant Him sometime in the future, perhaps very near future, even claming to be Him. But let us understand the deception and that the true "Morning Star" told us this in advance through His Apostles and Prophets; and told us to "watch out".
2Th 2:3-5 (NAS) Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things?


A few more verses on the Morning Star, our Jesus Christ:
Nu 24:17 (NIV) "I see him, but not now; I behold him, but not near. A star will come out of Jacob; a sceptre will rise out of Israel..."
Mt 2:2 (NIV) and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him."
Mt 2:7-10 (NIV) Then Herod called the Magi secretly and found out from them the exact time the star had appeared. He sent them to Bethlehem and said, "Go and make a careful search for the child. As soon as you find him, report to me, so that I too may go and worship him." After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen in the east went ahead of them until it stopped over the place where the child was. When they saw the star, they were overjoyed.
Lu 1:76-79 (NIV) [Zechariah concerning John:] "And you, my child, will be called a prophet of the Most High; for you will go on before the Lord to prepare the way for him, to give his people the knowledge of salvation through the forgiveness of their sins, because of the tender mercy of our God, by which the rising sun will come to us from heaven to shine on those living in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the path of peace."
John 1:7-9 (NIV) He [John] came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.
Isa 9:2 (NIV) The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned.
Mt 4:16 (NIV) "The people living in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned."
Isa 60:1-2 (NIV) "Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the Lord rises upon you. See, darkness covers the earth and thick darkness is over the peoples, but the Lord rises upon you and his glory appears over you."
John 8:12 (NIV) Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."