Rachel Maddow has this theory...........

[postman]

We are not Germany circa 1932, and Trump is in no way like Hitler…

Germany had the Jews, Trump had the Mexicans.

 

[berg80]

Funny because most of us Americans fighting for America have been here way before Trump.

"Real" Americans will always resist the rule of the WEF.

WEF supporters will own nothing and be happy, in the end.

Do you view Trump's admonition he thinks elements of the Constitution should be suspended for his political gain as fighting for America?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I'm simply asking, as a favor, that you not pollute the thread with worthless manure. Too much to ask?

Dude the thread itself is worthless manure
Typical Madcow rantings that keep the lemmings watching her show.
Do you watch it nude with your hand wrapped round your tool?

Hilarious.

 

[SeaMajor7]

I'm simply asking, as a favor, that you not pollute the thread with worthless manure. Too much to ask?

This thread is POLLUTION, you fucking PSYCHOPATH

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The seeds of todays Republicans were planted by Rush Limbaugh in the late 80s

It goes back further than that.

For hundreds of years conservativism has been reactionary, authoritarian, and illiberal.

The origin of today’s conservative anti-democratic authoritarianism can be found during the civil rights movement of the 50s and 60s, the Warren Court’s rulings such as Brown ending discrimination and recognizing the rights and protected liberties of all Americans, when Americans of color, women, and gay Americans fought to realize their comprehensive civil liberties – the positive, beneficial change conservatives came to fear and now fight against.

 

[Calypso Jones]

That’s exactly what it is – and it long predates Trump.

And conservativism has long been an authoritarian movement, hostile to democracy, frightened of positive, beneficial change, seeking to compel conformity and punish dissent.

Conservative dogma, and its ultimate goals, cannot be accomplished in a liberal democracy where citizens’ rights and individual liberty are paramount.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Do you view Trump's admonition he thinks elements of the Constitution should be suspended for his political gain as fighting for America?

You're retarded.

Trump has already been president once. Only now that Bribin is president, everything you said about trump is coming to pass.

If we have to round up all the democrats and reprogram them, you'll be cool with that right? You'd do the same to MAGA following Hillary.

 

[kyzr]

At its core conservatism is reactionary – fearful of positive, beneficial change, diversity, and inclusion.
Conservatives cannot combat and oppose the change, diversity, and inclusion they fear in a democracy; only a strong, authoritarian leader can preserve white hegemony and return the country to an idealized past that never actually existed.

1. Conservatism: noun,

1. The inclination, especially in politics, to maintain the existing or traditional order.
2. A political philosophy or attitude that emphasizes respect for traditional institutions and opposes the attempt to achieve social change though legislation or publicly funded programs.
3. Caution or moderation, as in behavior or outlook.

2. Conservatism opposes criminality, rioting, flash mobs, shop lifting, DAs who don't prosecute criminals, zero bail so criminals are always out on the streets terrorizing law-abiding citizens.

3. We'll see in 2024 if the US will keep the criminals in power, or if Law and Order will be restored.

 

[Calypso Jones]

"A 2011 Hollywood Reporter profile of Maddow said she was able to deliver news "with agenda, but not hysteria".[71] A Newsweek profile said, "At her best, Maddow debates ideological opponents with civility and persistence ... but for all her eloquence, she can get so wound up ripping Republicans that she sounds like another smug cable partisan." The Baltimore Sun critic David Zurawik accused Maddow of acting like "a lockstep party member".[72] The editors of The New Republic similarly criticized her – naming her among the "most over-rated thinkers" of 2011, they called her program "a textbook example of the intellectual limitations of a perfectly settled perspective".[73]" - wiki

 

[postman]

It goes back further than that.

For hundreds of years conservativism has been reactionary, authoritarian, and illiberal.

The origin of today’s conservative anti-democratic authoritarianism can be found during the civil rights movement of the 50s and 60s, the Warren Court’s rulings such as Brown ending discrimination and recognizing the rights and protected liberties of all Americans, when Americans of color, women, and gay Americans fought to realize their comprehensive civil liberties – the positive, beneficial change conservatives came to fear and now fight against.

White males, were the predominant political force for centuries. But that is ending as their numbers are falling, while minority numbers are increasing. That fear of losing their political power is what drives them to the party that believes in winning by hook or by crook.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

 

[TheGreatSatan]

1. Conservatism: noun,

1. The inclination, especially in politics, to maintain the existing or traditional order.
2. A political philosophy or attitude that emphasizes respect for traditional institutions and opposes the attempt to achieve social change though legislation or publicly funded programs.
3. Caution or moderation, as in behavior or outlook.

2. Conservatism opposes criminality, rioting, flash mobs, shop lifting, DAs who don't prosecute criminals, zero bail so criminals are always out on the streets terrorizing law-abiding citizens.

3. We'll see in 2024 if the US will keep the criminals in power, or if Law and Order will be restored.

Conservatives by definition, cannot win a rigged election.

 

[SeaMajor7]

It goes back further than that.

For hundreds of years conservativism has been reactionary, authoritarian, and illiberal.

The origin of today’s conservative anti-democratic authoritarianism can be found during the civil rights movement of the 50s and 60s, the Warren Court’s rulings such as Brown ending discrimination and recognizing the rights and protected liberties of all Americans, when Americans of color, women, and gay Americans fought to realize their comprehensive civil liberties – the positive, beneficial change conservatives came to fear and now fight against.

It was the DEMOCRATS that fought tooth and nail AGAINST Civil Rights legislation throughout the 1960's!!!!!
No amount of your denial or PROJECTION can change that FACT!
Even to this DAY, the demented LEFT are completely OBSESSED with identity politics, it's your #1 political platform!
You people are NUTS!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I agree. 30 years of claiming that the only news that is true is news that agreed with Limbaugh. At the time, he was just lying to keep his listeners, I don't the he ever dreamed that millions would start rejecting elections just because they didn't like the outcome.

he ever dreamed that millions would start rejecting elections just because they didn't like the outcome.

No kidding. Who knew Dems would finally stop fellating commie Russia, after 100 years,
just because that was the only possible way Hillary could lose?

 

[j-mac]

and you can of course find a single post from me saying that?

Here is one of you and your Soros boogieman...

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/mob-looting-justified-by-democrats.932899/page-9#post-29544950

Not playing your liberal games dummy.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

White males, were the predominant political force for centuries. But that is ending as their numbers are falling, while minority numbers are increasing. That fear of losing their political power is what drives them to the party that believes in winning by hook or by crook.

You cling to your racism. It will one day be used against you.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Not playing your liberal games dummy.

I accept your surrender.

Have a great day.

 

[surada]

.......that I thought would be interesting to discuss. Boiled down to its essence it is that Trump is not the essential element animating Trumpery. Trumpery being defined (by me) as the rise of nativism, the advent of power concentrated in the hands of the nation's leader, challenging the prior constitutional order, an isolationist bent, targeting minorities as being responsible for a variety of societal ills, and sloganeering as a substitute for nuanced policy.

She recently did a town hall style meeting with Chris Hayes during which he asked her why it is, in her opinion, that some authoritarian figures in history fail to gain support while others succeed. IOW, can success or failure of these figures be predicted. Her answer was the country, any country, has to be previously receptive to the message being projected. That no one can start from ground zero and orchestrate an authoritarian movement unless citizens in the country, some of them at least, are ready for it.

Probably the best example of this being Germany before Hitler (I'm not comparing Trump to Hitler). The seeds for being receptive to fascism were planted by the onerous terms Germany was forced to submit to after WW I.

So what was happening here that allowed for the sublimated acceptance of, if not desire for, autocracy to bubble to the surface? Technological advances bringing about economic instability? The "browning" of the country causing anxiety among certain factions?

Or is Rachel's theory just wrong?

Yeah. Americans have been concerned about the "browning of America" for 20 years.

 

[j-mac]

No it isn't. It's about whether conditions in a country must exist prior to the rise of authoritarian figures.

IOW, is Trump a Hitler figure…Just stop. You’re not intelligent enough to pull this off…

 

[petro]

Maddow=Stephen Colbert in drag.