Rand Paul to reveal replacement to Obamacare this week

[basquebromance]

and now the fake news story that the GOP don't have a replacement is DEAD. rip

 

[AnCap'n_Murica]

Well, Rand has one, anyways. It's no certain bet that the rest of the progressive asswagon establishment GOP will go along with him.

 

[basquebromance]

Well, Rand has one, anyways. It's no certain bet that the rest of the progressive asswagon establishment GOP will go along with him.

did you just imply that Rand Paul is part of the establishment?

that's really fucking stupid!

 

[tigerred59]

Rand Paul, a Ky. senator that made his own wealth through gov. programs....ie Medicaid....can't wait for this welfare king to show us the plan.

 

[AntonToo]

and now the fake news story that the GOP don't have a replacement is DEAD. rip

Ok, lets start with the facts: GOP DOES NOT today have a replacement for Obamacare.

Now they may tomorrow or in some more distant future can finally agree on and propose some sort of alternative, but Rand Paul promising something or other is not proof of that.

 

[AnCap'n_Murica]

did you just imply that Rand Paul is part of the establishment?

that's really fucking stupid!

No more so than his old man was. Paul, Lee, Amash, Massie, among others, clearly aren't your typical republican establishment dweebs.

You really need me to tell you this?

 

[AnCap'n_Murica]

Ok, lets start with the facts: GOP DOES NOT today have a replacement for Obamacare.

Now they may tomorrow or in some more distant future can finally agree on and propose some sort of alternative, but Rand Paul promising something or other is not proof of that.

The only people demanding a replacement are establishment dweeb republicans and every democrat moonbat under the moon.

That steaming shit heap can be replaced with nothing, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[basquebromance]

and now the fake news story that the GOP don't have a replacement is DEAD. rip

Ok, lets start with the facts: GOP DOES NOT today have a replacement for Obamacare.

Now they may tomorrow or in some more distant future can finally agree on and propose some sort of alternative, but Rand Paul promising something or other is not proof of that.

you just tied yourself in knots with your incoherent FAKE NEWS.

and tennis is for pussies!

 

[AntonToo]

and now the fake news story that the GOP don't have a replacement is DEAD. rip

Ok, lets start with the facts: GOP DOES NOT today have a replacement for Obamacare.

Now they may tomorrow or in some more distant future can finally agree on and propose some sort of alternative, but Rand Paul promising something or other is not proof of that.

you just tied yourself in knots with your incoherent FAKE NEWS.

and tennis is for pussies!

...is it a rule that Trumpsters must be so fucking stupid and petty?

 

[Fenton Lum]

No one wants the real news.

Ranking 37th — Measuring the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp0910064

The U.S. Health System in Perspective: A Comparison of Twelve Industrialized Nations
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/~/media/Files/Publications/Issue Brief/2011/Jul/1532_Squires_US_hlt_sys_comparison_12_nations_intl_brief_v2.pdf


U.S. Healthcare Ranked Dead Last Compared To 10 Other Countries


Comparing Health System Performance In OECD Countries

 

[Dschrute3]

Great to hear from Rand again. He's one of the very few politicians i respect. The Republicans would be very wise to listen to him.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Ok, lets start with the facts: GOP DOES NOT today have a replacement for Obamacare.

Now they may tomorrow or in some more distant future can finally agree on and propose some sort of alternative, but Rand Paul promising something or other is not proof of that.

The only people demanding a replacement are establishment dweeb republicans and every democrat moonbat under the moon.

That steaming shit heap can be replaced with nothing, as far as I'm concerned.

Agreed, we're the envy of the world.

Ranking 37th — Measuring the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp0910064

The U.S. Health System in Perspective: A Comparison of Twelve Industrialized Nations
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/~/media/Files/Publications/Issue Brief/2011/Jul/1532_Squires_US_hlt_sys_comparison_12_nations_intl_brief_v2.pdf


U.S. Healthcare Ranked Dead Last Compared To 10 Other Countries


Comparing Health System Performance In OECD Countries

 

[g5000]

Rand Paul rolling out ObamaCare replacement this week

 

[g5000]

Rand Paul: Repeal all of Obamacare and replace immediately

As we repeal Obamacare, we would be wise to vote on its replacement at the same time.


What should we replace Obamacare with? Perhaps we should try freedom:

1. The freedom to choose inexpensive insurance free of government dictates.

2. The freedom to save unlimited amounts in a health savings account.

3. The freedom to buy insurance across state lines.

4. The freedom for all individuals to join together in voluntary associations to gain the leverage of being part of a large insurance pool.

 

[WillReadmore]

Rand Paul: Repeal all of Obamacare and replace immediately

As we repeal Obamacare, we would be wise to vote on its replacement at the same time.


What should we replace Obamacare with? Perhaps we should try freedom:

1. The freedom to choose inexpensive insurance free of government dictates.

2. The freedom to save unlimited amounts in a health savings account.

3. The freedom to buy insurance across state lines.

4. The freedom for all individuals to join together in voluntary associations to gain the leverage of being part of a large insurance pool.

2) There are several states that already allow selling insurance across state lines. But, insurance companies have not shown any interest in that. So, nice talking point - LOL!!

3) How many Americans have the income to pay for current health care, save for future health care, AND take advantage of related tax benefits (given that half of America already doesn't pay income tax)? Basically, this is a direction for those with lots of income - NOT working middle American families.

4) That was totally available before the ACA, and nobody did it. Consider the size of the networks and policy holders that insurance companies have (and had before the ACA). There is no evidence that individuals could band together to rival that.

Plus, none of your ideas covers the key benefits of the ACA - benefits that are hugely popular across America. And, it doesn't solve the problem of those without insurance being able to afford it.

 

[WillReadmore]

Rand Paul: Repeal all of Obamacare and replace immediately

As we repeal Obamacare, we would be wise to vote on its replacement at the same time.


What should we replace Obamacare with? Perhaps we should try freedom:

1. The freedom to choose inexpensive insurance free of government dictates.

2. The freedom to save unlimited amounts in a health savings account.

3. The freedom to buy insurance across state lines.

4. The freedom for all individuals to join together in voluntary associations to gain the leverage of being part of a large insurance pool.

I agree with Paul that killing the ACA before having a replacement would be prohibitively irresponsible.

But, he doesn't have a plan any more than Ryan does. All that link does is propose some ideas - confirming Ryan's explicit statement that Republicans have no more than ideas at this point.

So, what DOES he think we should do to those who have pre-existing conditions, or who got sick, causing their insurance company to dump them?

What DOES he think we should do about those who can't pay and are thus left to rely on ER care - the most expensive care we've got?

And, why is it that America citizens should have health care that is consistently reviewed to be more expensive and worse that most or all other first world nations? Can't American citizens expect better than that?

 

[WillReadmore]

Rand Paul: Repeal all of Obamacare and replace immediately

As we repeal Obamacare, we would be wise to vote on its replacement at the same time.


What should we replace Obamacare with? Perhaps we should try freedom:

1. The freedom to choose inexpensive insurance free of government dictates.

2. The freedom to save unlimited amounts in a health savings account.

3. The freedom to buy insurance across state lines.

4. The freedom for all individuals to join together in voluntary associations to gain the leverage of being part of a large insurance pool.

Rand Paul says:
"Obamacare required the brute force of government through the individual mandate to make people buy insurance."

But, this is EXACTLY what we do for auto insurance.

 

[g5000]

Rand Paul: Repeal all of Obamacare and replace immediately

As we repeal Obamacare, we would be wise to vote on its replacement at the same time.


What should we replace Obamacare with? Perhaps we should try freedom:

1. The freedom to choose inexpensive insurance free of government dictates.

2. The freedom to save unlimited amounts in a health savings account.

3. The freedom to buy insurance across state lines.

4. The freedom for all individuals to join together in voluntary associations to gain the leverage of being part of a large insurance pool.

I agree with Paul that killing the ACA before having a replacement would be prohibitively irresponsible.

But, he doesn't have a plan any more than Ryan does. All that link does is propose some ideas - confirming Ryan's explicit statement that Republicans have no more than ideas at this point.

So, what DOES he think we should do to those who have pre-existing conditions, or who got sick, causing their insurance company to dump them?

What DOES he think we should do about those who can't pay and are thus left to rely on ER care - the most expensive care we've got?

And, why is it that America citizens should have health care that is consistently reviewed to be more expensive and worse that most or all other first world nations? Can't American citizens expect better than that?

I have been posing the following question to the pseudocons for as long as I have been on this board: "Repeal Obamacare...AND THEN WHAT!?!?!"

They have never come up with an answer.

The GOP sold us down the river to single payer healthcare decades ago. Everything else is theater for the rubes.

That's why they don't have an alternative plan on the table, and never have.

Now, as sure as Donald Trump is Putin's useful idiot, some pseudocon tard is going to come along and claim the GOP has put a plan on the table in the past. But you know how we can tell they haven't?

Because no one has heard of it. If the GOP had a plan, we'd all be familiar with it.

If the GOP ever had a plan, it is a better kept secret than Obama's Kenyan birth certificate, and just as fictitious.

 

[g5000]

Rand Paul says he will be unveiling his bill this week. I look forward to reading it. I will probably be the only person on this forum who actually reads it.

The tards will drink the piss their propaganda outlets pour for them about it. As usual. Their attention spans have been deliberately shrunk to 140 characters.

Rand Paul is not the man his father was. But who knows, maybe he'll get this one right.

We should be buying our health insurance the same way we buy our auto, life, and home insurance. His "freedom" bullets above sound pretty close to that.

 

[BluesLegend]

Rand Paul: Repeal all of Obamacare and replace immediately

As we repeal Obamacare, we would be wise to vote on its replacement at the same time.


What should we replace Obamacare with? Perhaps we should try freedom:

1. The freedom to choose inexpensive insurance free of government dictates.

2. The freedom to save unlimited amounts in a health savings account.

3. The freedom to buy insurance across state lines.

4. The freedom for all individuals to join together in voluntary associations to gain the leverage of being part of a large insurance pool.

Rand Paul says:
"Obamacare required the brute force of government through the individual mandate to make people buy insurance."

But, this is EXACTLY what we do for auto insurance.

Wrong! I don't have to buy auto insurance, millions of people don't have auto insurance fool. Get a brain.