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DEAN KEITH SIMONTON

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Renowned for his groundbreaking contributions to the study of genius, Dean Keith Simonton has provided his expertise to over 400 publications on the topic, including a dozen books entitledGenius, Creativity, and Leadership;Scientific Genius; Greatness;Genius and Creativity; Origins of Genius; Great Psychologists and Their Times; Creativity in Science; and Genius 101.

The recipient of several awards, Simonton’s work has been recognized by the William James Book Award, the Sir Francis Galton Award for Outstanding Contributions to the Study of Creativity, the Rudolf Arnheim Award for Outstanding Achievement in Psychology and the Arts, the Theoretical Innovation Prize in Personality and Social Psychology, the George A. Miller Outstanding Article Award, the E. Paul Torrance Award from the National Association for Gifted Children, and the Robert S. Daniel Award for Four-Year College/University Teaching.

A fellow of several professional organizations—including the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the American Psychological Society, and nine divisions of the American Psychological Association (APA)—Simonton has served as president of the International Association of Empirical Aesthetics and the Society for the Psychology of Aesthetics, Creativity and the Arts (APA, Division 10). Currently, he is the president-elect of the Society for General Psychology (APA, Division 1) and a distinguished professor of psychology at the University of California. Dean Simonton obtained his Ph.D. from Harvard University in 1975.

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Dean Keith Simonton has devoted his career as a social psychologist investigating the origins of and evolution of genius, creativity, and leadership. He has researched the personal, social, cultural, developmental, and cognitive factors that contribute to greatness in the arts, the humanities, and especially the sciences.
He uses the tools of historiometrics, a combination of personal histories, biographies, and psychometrics, to build theories and principles of human behavior that might account for the development of pre-eminent individuals.

Starting from the pioneering theories of Donald Campbell, Simonton has developed the Blind Variation and Selective Retention (BVSR) account of the creation of human knowledge, and scientific knowledge in particular.

BVSR is itself a variation on common-sense and ancient notions of trial-and-error, and it seems directly inspired by the two-step process of biological evolution, but Campbell and Simonton see it as more general than these. BVSR is applicable to organic evolution, the learning process in individual organisms, and the social construction of knowledge.

In biological evolution, the original blind variation is preserved by genetic inheritance. In learning, random variations are preserved by individual organisms memories. In social knowledge, chance variation of ideas get preserved as new inventions, new works of art, and new scientific theories. Whether any of these get selected and retained depends on their pragmatic usefulness to the species, the individual and the society.

BVSR also describes the two-stage model for free will. First chance, then choice. First "free," then "will." Thoughts come to us freely. Actions go from us willfully.

The idea that units of cultural knowledge undergo variation and then are selected for is perhaps better known from the recent work of Richard Dawkins, who named the self-replicating unit of cultural evolution the "meme" in his 1976 book The Selfish Gene.

BVSR is widely used in cybernetics. For example, the "general problem solver" programs of Allan Newell and Herbert Simon involve two stages, first the blind generation of theorems and then testing of the theorems for validity.

In the December 2014 issue of the Review of General Psychology, Simonton (a past president of APA) called for the two-stage model of free will to be integrated into his theory of creativity.
http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/gpr/17/4/374/

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Yeah, I'm going to take you guy's word over this guy. (insert rolling eyes emoticon here)

 

[Bassman007]

AND YES I'M AWARE THE FUCKING IQ TEST ITSELF WAS NOT AROUND WHEN MANY OF THESE PRESIDENTS WERE ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are psychologically ill, you are defending something that does not exist, which would be the IQ levels of people who were not tested. Neither you or this idiot of a professor knows that success is not linked to IQ, as all you need to be able to do to graduate from Harvard or Yale is have Daddy donate to the school fund. There is no evidence that any persons IQ can be predicted to a tenth of a point, but since you are delusional you can not understand this,

 

[DigitalDrifter]

AND YES I'M AWARE THE FUCKING IQ TEST ITSELF WAS NOT AROUND WHEN MANY OF THESE PRESIDENTS WERE ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are psychologically ill, you are defending something that does not exist, which would be the IQ levels of people who were not tested. Neither you or this idiot of a professor knows that success is not linked to IQ, as all you need to be able to do to graduate from Harvard or Yale is have Daddy donate to the school fund. There is no evidence that any persons IQ can be predicted to a tenth of a point, but since you are delusional you can not understand this,

Yeah, this guy is the moron, and you're the UC Davis professor who has written several books.

Speaking of delusional, haven't you forgotten a few of your meds today ?

I wouldn't worry though, the nurse is bound to be in any time now to strap you down, and place the needle in your arm.

 

[Bassman007]

I would love to see one of you message board pilots debate this guy, and see if you would last for more than one sentence !

Dean Keith Simonton, Ph.D.


Dean Keith Simonton (PhD 1975 Harvard University) is Distinguished Professor of Psychology at the University of California, Davis. His curriculum vitae lists more than 430 publications, including a dozen books. Among the latter are Genius, Creativity, and Leadership; Scientific Genius; Greatness; Genius and Creativity; Origins of Genius; Great Psychologists and Their Times; Creativity in Science; Genius 101; and Great Flicks.

Simonton received the William James Book Award, the Sir Francis Galton Award for Outstanding Contributions to the Study of Creativity, the Rudolf Arnheim Award for Outstanding Achievement in Psychology and the Arts, the Theoretical Innovation Prize in Personality and Social Psychology, the George A. Miller Outstanding Article Award, the E. Paul Torrance and President’s Awards from the National Association for Gifted Children, the Robert S. Daniel Award for Four-Year College/University Teaching, the Farnsworth Award for Outstanding Service to the Society for Aesthetics, Creativity, and the Arts, and the UC Davis Prize for Teaching and Scholarly Achievement.

He is Fellow of several scientific organizations, including the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the Association for Psychological Science, and ten divisions of the American Psychological Association (APA). He has served as President of the International Association of Empirical Aesthetics and the Society for the Psychology of Aesthetics, Creativity and the Arts (APA, Division 10), and is the current President of the Society for General Psychology (APA, Division 1). His research covers diverse manifestations of genius, creativity, leadership, talent, and aesthetics. Simonton’s Google Scholar h-index is 48.

- See more at: Dean Keith Simonton, Ph.D. | The Creativity Post

He could not beat me in a debate about this, because I know that he is a fraud. That said there is no need for debate, all he has to do is predict the IQ's of 100 random people all to within a tenth of a percentage point. Do you know why he refuses to do this to live people that can take the test and prove his con artist ass wrong?

 

[Bassman007]

AND YES I'M AWARE THE FUCKING IQ TEST ITSELF WAS NOT AROUND WHEN MANY OF THESE PRESIDENTS WERE ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are psychologically ill, you are defending something that does not exist, which would be the IQ levels of people who were not tested. Neither you or this idiot of a professor knows that success is not linked to IQ, as all you need to be able to do to graduate from Harvard or Yale is have Daddy donate to the school fund. There is no evidence that any persons IQ can be predicted to a tenth of a point, but since you are delusional you can not understand this,

Yeah, this guy is the moron, and you're the UC Davis professor who has written several books.

Speaking of delusional, haven't you forgotten a few of your meds today ?

I wouldn't worry though, the nurse is bound to be in any time now to strap you down, and place the needle in your arm.

UC Davis hires morons, or the page is a fake and is designed to see how dumb Americans are, and chickydee you didn't fail this dumb test.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

AND YES I'M AWARE THE FUCKING IQ TEST ITSELF WAS NOT AROUND WHEN MANY OF THESE PRESIDENTS WERE ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are psychologically ill, you are defending something that does not exist, which would be the IQ levels of people who were not tested. Neither you or this idiot of a professor knows that success is not linked to IQ, as all you need to be able to do to graduate from Harvard or Yale is have Daddy donate to the school fund. There is no evidence that any persons IQ can be predicted to a tenth of a point, but since you are delusional you can not understand this,

Yeah, this guy is the moron, and you're the UC Davis professor who has written several books.

Speaking of delusional, haven't you forgotten a few of your meds today ?

I wouldn't worry though, the nurse is bound to be in any time now to strap you down, and place the needle in your arm.

UC Davis hires morons, or the page is a fake and is designed to see how dumb Americans are, and chickydee you didn't fail this dumb test.

Lol ! Ok Basementman, you go right on believing what you want !

 

[The Rabbi]

AND YES I'M AWARE THE FUCKING IQ TEST ITSELF WAS NOT AROUND WHEN MANY OF THESE PRESIDENTS WERE ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are psychologically ill, you are defending something that does not exist, which would be the IQ levels of people who were not tested. Neither you or this idiot of a professor knows that success is not linked to IQ, as all you need to be able to do to graduate from Harvard or Yale is have Daddy donate to the school fund. There is no evidence that any persons IQ can be predicted to a tenth of a point, but since you are delusional you can not understand this,

So people didnt have IQs before the test existed? Did you really mean to say that?

 

[Bassman007]

AND YES I'M AWARE THE FUCKING IQ TEST ITSELF WAS NOT AROUND WHEN MANY OF THESE PRESIDENTS WERE ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are psychologically ill, you are defending something that does not exist, which would be the IQ levels of people who were not tested. Neither you or this idiot of a professor knows that success is not linked to IQ, as all you need to be able to do to graduate from Harvard or Yale is have Daddy donate to the school fund. There is no evidence that any persons IQ can be predicted to a tenth of a point, but since you are delusional you can not understand this,

So people didnt have IQs before the test existed? Did you really mean to say that?

Actually I said what I meant, the IQ level of a person, is the ranking that the test provides, so if there is no test, there is no rank or level, this does not mean there is no IQ, just no ranking of that persons IQ.

 

[The Rabbi]

AND YES I'M AWARE THE FUCKING IQ TEST ITSELF WAS NOT AROUND WHEN MANY OF THESE PRESIDENTS WERE ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are psychologically ill, you are defending something that does not exist, which would be the IQ levels of people who were not tested. Neither you or this idiot of a professor knows that success is not linked to IQ, as all you need to be able to do to graduate from Harvard or Yale is have Daddy donate to the school fund. There is no evidence that any persons IQ can be predicted to a tenth of a point, but since you are delusional you can not understand this,

So people didnt have IQs before the test existed? Did you really mean to say that?

Actually I said what I meant, the IQ level of a person, is the ranking that the test provides, so if there is no test, there is no rank or level, this does not mean there is no IQ, just no ranking of that persons IQ.

The IQ test is a ranking? What is it a ranking of?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

AND YES I'M AWARE THE FUCKING IQ TEST ITSELF WAS NOT AROUND WHEN MANY OF THESE PRESIDENTS WERE ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are psychologically ill, you are defending something that does not exist, which would be the IQ levels of people who were not tested. Neither you or this idiot of a professor knows that success is not linked to IQ, as all you need to be able to do to graduate from Harvard or Yale is have Daddy donate to the school fund. There is no evidence that any persons IQ can be predicted to a tenth of a point, but since you are delusional you can not understand this,

So people didnt have IQs before the test existed? Did you really mean to say that?

You do understand you're attempting to communicate with, uh, shall we say a "gifted" poster ?

 

[Bassman007]

AND YES I'M AWARE THE FUCKING IQ TEST ITSELF WAS NOT AROUND WHEN MANY OF THESE PRESIDENTS WERE ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are psychologically ill, you are defending something that does not exist, which would be the IQ levels of people who were not tested. Neither you or this idiot of a professor knows that success is not linked to IQ, as all you need to be able to do to graduate from Harvard or Yale is have Daddy donate to the school fund. There is no evidence that any persons IQ can be predicted to a tenth of a point, but since you are delusional you can not understand this,

So people didnt have IQs before the test existed? Did you really mean to say that?

Actually I said what I meant, the IQ level of a person, is the ranking that the test provides, so if there is no test, there is no rank or level, this does not mean there is no IQ, just no ranking of that persons IQ.

The IQ test is a ranking? What is it a ranking of?

The IQ is a ranking of how a particular person compares to their peers, thus without IQ test then there actually are no IQ rankings or IQ's.

 

[The Rabbi]

AND YES I'M AWARE THE FUCKING IQ TEST ITSELF WAS NOT AROUND WHEN MANY OF THESE PRESIDENTS WERE ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are psychologically ill, you are defending something that does not exist, which would be the IQ levels of people who were not tested. Neither you or this idiot of a professor knows that success is not linked to IQ, as all you need to be able to do to graduate from Harvard or Yale is have Daddy donate to the school fund. There is no evidence that any persons IQ can be predicted to a tenth of a point, but since you are delusional you can not understand this,

So people didnt have IQs before the test existed? Did you really mean to say that?

Actually I said what I meant, the IQ level of a person, is the ranking that the test provides, so if there is no test, there is no rank or level, this does not mean there is no IQ, just no ranking of that persons IQ.

The IQ test is a ranking? What is it a ranking of?

The IQ is a ranking of how a particular person compares to their peers, thus without IQ test then there actually are no IQ rankings or IQ's.

OK point taken.
But he describes the method of interpolating the scores from various artifacts. At best it's a guess.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

You are psychologically ill, you are defending something that does not exist, which would be the IQ levels of people who were not tested. Neither you or this idiot of a professor knows that success is not linked to IQ, as all you need to be able to do to graduate from Harvard or Yale is have Daddy donate to the school fund. There is no evidence that any persons IQ can be predicted to a tenth of a point, but since you are delusional you can not understand this,

So people didnt have IQs before the test existed? Did you really mean to say that?

Actually I said what I meant, the IQ level of a person, is the ranking that the test provides, so if there is no test, there is no rank or level, this does not mean there is no IQ, just no ranking of that persons IQ.

The IQ test is a ranking? What is it a ranking of?

The IQ is a ranking of how a particular person compares to their peers, thus without IQ test then there actually are no IQ rankings or IQ's.

OK point taken.
But he describes the method of interpolating the scores from various artifacts. At best it's a guess.

It's a very researched and educated "guess" from someone with quite the accomplished background. I wouldn't blow it off as simply "at best it's a guess".

 

[Bassman007]

So people didnt have IQs before the test existed? Did you really mean to say that?

Actually I said what I meant, the IQ level of a person, is the ranking that the test provides, so if there is no test, there is no rank or level, this does not mean there is no IQ, just no ranking of that persons IQ.

The IQ test is a ranking? What is it a ranking of?

The IQ is a ranking of how a particular person compares to their peers, thus without IQ test then there actually are no IQ rankings or IQ's.

OK point taken.
But he describes the method of interpolating the scores from various artifacts. At best it's a guess.

It's a very researched and educated "guess" from someone with quite the accomplished background. I wouldn't blow it off as simply "at best it's a guess".

If his guess of what George Washington's IQ was, is not a guess, then what is it? Please tell us how accurate your moron is at predicting the IQ's of living people, who can verify his moronic results, or prove me right once again.

 

[Bassman007]

AND YES I'M AWARE THE FUCKING IQ TEST ITSELF WAS NOT AROUND WHEN MANY OF THESE PRESIDENTS WERE ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are psychologically ill, you are defending something that does not exist, which would be the IQ levels of people who were not tested. Neither you or this idiot of a professor knows that success is not linked to IQ, as all you need to be able to do to graduate from Harvard or Yale is have Daddy donate to the school fund. There is no evidence that any persons IQ can be predicted to a tenth of a point, but since you are delusional you can not understand this,

So people didnt have IQs before the test existed? Did you really mean to say that?

You do understand you're attempting to communicate with, uh, shall we say a "gifted" poster ?

The moron with experience speaks............................

 

[Delta4Embassy]

what about Dan Qauyle! The Scholar!

Did they normalize the results or something? Different tests and results wont compare to others like.