Reagan recovery vs Obama recovery? Who wins?

[Stephanie]

Even with Obama stealing a almost a Trillion dollars from us and throwing it at the economy didn't do a damn thing. the only he's grown is THIS GOVERNMENT.

with his MONSTER government namesake called, OscamCare

 

[healthmyths]

You mean Democrat Congress spent like drunken sailors. Oh and one Obama deficit is bigger than Reagan's entire budget. Reagan ran the entire government on less than an Obama deficit

Again, another half-brained right winger steps up showing stupidity and baseless hatred.....

Hey, dingbat.......How did Obama predecessor start two wars (estimated costs $3 TRILLION) gave tax CUTS and unpaid Medicare part D????

WHO PAID FOR THOSE CONSERVATIVE ADVENTURES?

Because dingbats like THESE DEMOCRATS BEGGED to remove Saddam you idiot!!!

WITH all the information at your fingertips as these 32 democrat quotes illustrate what would you do THEN not NOW!!!
Knowing that Saddam was willing to let 100,000 kids starve.. what would you do???

Democratic quotes about Iraq Democratic quotes about Iraq
32 democrat quotes indicate even before GWB that Saddam was a threat!

"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998 WHERE'D SHE GET THIS INFORMATION BEFORE BUSH?
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.

 

[kaz]

You mean Democrat Congress spent like drunken sailors. Oh and one Obama deficit is bigger than Reagan's entire budget. Reagan ran the entire government on less than an Obama deficit

Again, another half-brained right winger steps up showing stupidity and baseless hatred.....

Hey, dingbat.......How did Obama predecessor start two wars (estimated costs $3 TRILLION) gave tax CUTS and unpaid Medicare part D????

WHO PAID FOR THOSE CONSERVATIVE ADVENTURES?

Yes, W clearly spent like a drunken sailor. The guy who never saw a spending bill he vetoed. Then there was the bridge to nowhere, part of a $250 billion Xmas tree with the word "transportation" written on it. W was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and made a career on his daddy's connections. He had no concept people actually worked to earn the money that flowed through is hands like water. And Republicans after finding out what he was ... voted him in again

PROVE with FACTS W spent like a drunken Sailor"!!!!!
HERE are the FACTS you dumb shits who conveniently FORGET WHAT HAPPENED from 2001 to 2008!!
NO other president in history EVER EVER FACED these events and YET the deficit was declining TAX REVENUE was increasing people were working!!!

1) Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?
Source: USATODAY.com - It s official 2001 recession only lasted eight months

A Major $5 trillion market loss
2) Are you aware that the dot.com bust occurred and cost $5 trillion in losses?
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 - and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble How to lose 5 trillion Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
3)Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets.
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade
Year 2001...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others. According to the FBI, the ensuing investigation became "one of the largest and most complex in the history of law enforcement".[1]

4) $1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history.
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of
a) 400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts...
In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property.. IN SPITE of that:

AFTER the tax cuts Federal Tax REVENUES Increased an average of 9.78% per year!!!
Government Revenue Details Federal State Local for 2008 - Charts

WHAT about THESE FACTS!!!
FACTS not fiction! Deficits of Presidents Obama/Bush
Federal deficit falling to lowest in Obama presidency
Total deficits Obama will have left DEFICITS totaling ($6.3 trillion)
Total Deficits BUSH $3.294 trillion! Obama will have increased DEFICITS by 207%!!!
FY 2017 - $458 billion
FY 2016 - $531 billion
FY 2015 - $564 billion
FY 2014 - $649 billion
FY 2013 - $680 billion.
FY 2012 - $1.087 trillion.
FY 2011 - $1.299 trillion.

FY 2010 - $1.546 ($1.293 trillion plus $253 billion from the Obama Stimulus Act that was attached to the FY 2009 budget).

President George W. Bush: Total = $3.294 trillion.
FY 2009 - $1.16 trillion. ($1.416 trillion minus $253 billion from Obama's Stimulus Act)
FY 2008 - $458 billion.
FY 2007 - $161 billion.
FY 2006 - $248 billion.
FY 2005 - $318 billion.
FY 2004 - $413 billion.
FY 2003 - $378 billion.
FY 2002 - $158 billion.

THESE Are the FACTS not f...king guesses ENOUGH of this Drunken sailor charges!!! YOU are idiots that continue EVEN you stupid uninformed conservatives that spout that same stupid phrase! GWB had wars, hurricanes, recessions all occurring in his administration THAT no other president faced!!!!

Wow, that would be a great argument if I'd said W had an easy time as President. Unfortunately ... for you ... I didn't say that. I said he spent like a drunken sailor. After:

- Medicare part D
- No child gets ahead
- Never vetoing a spending bill
- Trillions on wars in the middle east absorbing most of the cost ourselves while our supposed allies in the ME and Europe who were in far greater peril over the threats there stabbed us in the back
- The "transportation" Christmas tree and bridge to nowhere
- Tarp, the mother ship
- Proposing budgets every year that not even counting wars or Tarp grew the federal behemoth we have in DC by every real measure BEFORE starting to negotiate with the Democrats
- Vastly increasing Social Security and Medicare taxes
- Giving amnesty and government services to countless more illegal aliens

And that's just off the top of my head. Even Rush and Hannity attacked him regularly for spending, and you don't see it? Pathetic. You seriously don't think he was fiscally completely irresponsible?

W was worse than Gore would have been, if I had it to do over instead of Harry Brown I'd have voted for Gore. I'm not saying Gore's intent wouldn't have been as bad, but the Republican Congress would not have rolled over and given him his way. W was a horrible President, one of the worst in our history

 

[healthmyths]

You mean Democrat Congress spent like drunken sailors. Oh and one Obama deficit is bigger than Reagan's entire budget. Reagan ran the entire government on less than an Obama deficit

Again, another half-brained right winger steps up showing stupidity and baseless hatred.....

Hey, dingbat.......How did Obama predecessor start two wars (estimated costs $3 TRILLION) gave tax CUTS and unpaid Medicare part D????

WHO PAID FOR THOSE CONSERVATIVE ADVENTURES?

Yes, W clearly spent like a drunken sailor. The guy who never saw a spending bill he vetoed. Then there was the bridge to nowhere, part of a $250 billion Xmas tree with the word "transportation" written on it. W was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and made a career on his daddy's connections. He had no concept people actually worked to earn the money that flowed through is hands like water. And Republicans after finding out what he was ... voted him in again

PROVE with FACTS W spent like a drunken Sailor"!!!!!
HERE are the FACTS you dumb shits who conveniently FORGET WHAT HAPPENED from 2001 to 2008!!
NO other president in history EVER EVER FACED these events and YET the deficit was declining TAX REVENUE was increasing people were working!!!

1) Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?
Source: USATODAY.com - It s official 2001 recession only lasted eight months

A Major $5 trillion market loss
2) Are you aware that the dot.com bust occurred and cost $5 trillion in losses?
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 - and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble How to lose 5 trillion Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
3)Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets.
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade
Year 2001...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others. According to the FBI, the ensuing investigation became "one of the largest and most complex in the history of law enforcement".[1]

4) $1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history.
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of
a) 400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts...
In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property.. IN SPITE of that:

AFTER the tax cuts Federal Tax REVENUES Increased an average of 9.78% per year!!!
Government Revenue Details Federal State Local for 2008 - Charts

WHAT about THESE FACTS!!!
FACTS not fiction! Deficits of Presidents Obama/Bush
Federal deficit falling to lowest in Obama presidency
Total deficits Obama will have left DEFICITS totaling ($6.3 trillion)
Total Deficits BUSH $3.294 trillion! Obama will have increased DEFICITS by 207%!!!
FY 2017 - $458 billion
FY 2016 - $531 billion
FY 2015 - $564 billion
FY 2014 - $649 billion
FY 2013 - $680 billion.
FY 2012 - $1.087 trillion.
FY 2011 - $1.299 trillion.

FY 2010 - $1.546 ($1.293 trillion plus $253 billion from the Obama Stimulus Act that was attached to the FY 2009 budget).

President George W. Bush: Total = $3.294 trillion.
FY 2009 - $1.16 trillion. ($1.416 trillion minus $253 billion from Obama's Stimulus Act)
FY 2008 - $458 billion.
FY 2007 - $161 billion.
FY 2006 - $248 billion.
FY 2005 - $318 billion.
FY 2004 - $413 billion.
FY 2003 - $378 billion.
FY 2002 - $158 billion.

THESE Are the FACTS not f...king guesses ENOUGH of this Drunken sailor charges!!! YOU are idiots that continue EVEN you stupid uninformed conservatives that spout that same stupid phrase! GWB had wars, hurricanes, recessions all occurring in his administration THAT no other president faced!!!!

Wow, that would be a great argument if I'd said W had an easy time as President. Unfortunately ... for you ... I didn't say that. I said he spent like a drunken sailor. After:

- Medicare part D
- No child gets ahead
- Never vetoing a spending bill
- Trillions on wars in the middle east absorbing most of the cost ourselves while our supposed allies in the ME and Europe who were in far greater peril over the threats there stabbed us in the back
- The "transportation" Christmas tree and bridge to nowhere
- Tarp, the mother ship
- Proposing budgets every year that not even counting wars or Tarp grew the federal behemoth we have in DC by every real measure BEFORE starting to negotiate with the Democrats
- Vastly increasing Social Security and Medicare taxes
- Giving amnesty and government services to countless more illegal aliens

And that's just off the top of my head. Even Rush and Hannity attacked him regularly for spending, and you don't see it? Pathetic. You seriously don't think he was fiscally completely irresponsible?

W was worse than Gore would have been, if I had it to do over instead of Harry Brown I'd have voted for Gore. I'm not saying Gore's intent wouldn't have been as bad, but the Republican Congress would not have rolled over and given him his way. W was a horrible President, one of the worst in our history

NO proof in your above statements!
Give me documentation idiot!
TARP.... why?? Because CRA created by Obama's lawsuit in 1995! Collapsed the housing bubble and these democrats chastened Bush!

GWB's administration was LAUGHED AT BY Democrats Frank and Dodd after 17 times trying to get Fannie/Freddie fixed!
"Over the past six years, the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of failure to reform GSEs but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.
Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
Setting the Record Straight The Three Most Egregious Claims In The New York Times Article On The Housing Crisis

Many prominent Democrats, including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized
the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash, "Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)

Barney Frank s Fannie and Freddie Muddle - US News
So over the years these subprime loans came to a head on 9/18/2008 again NOT mentioned widely by the biased MSM and I'm sure YOU've NEVER heard about this!

September 18, 2008: Edge of Collapse
"The collapse revelation came a few days ago from Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-Pennsylvania) when he was interviewed on C-Span.
On Thursday [the 18th], at about 11 o’clock in the morning, the Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous drawdown of money market accounts in the United States to a tune of $550 billion being drawn out in a matter of an hour or two.

The Treasury opened up its window to help.
They pumped $105 billion into the system and quickly realized that they could not stem the tide.
We were having an electronic run on the banks.
They decided to close the operation, close down the money accounts, and announce a guarantee of $250,000 per account so there wouldn’t be further panic and there.
And that’s what actually happened.
If they had not done that their estimation was that by two o’clock that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the United States, would have collapsed the entire economy of the United States, and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed.
September 18 2008 Edge of Collapse

NOW idiots like YOU blaming Bush for something started in Jimmy Carter' time, blown out of proportion by Clinton and like all other crisis started by those idiots... Bush had to fix!

NOW the STATUS of TARP you dummy!!!
Proof you are really a dummy TARP has turned a Profit!!!

Bailout Scorecard Eye on the Bailout ProPublica
NOTE DUMMY... $615 billion was spent
NOW DUMMY: $670.1 Billion RETURNED...
PROFIT!!! $55.1 Billion!

 

[healthmyths]

I really don't understand idiots that can't seem to get the facts with the Internet so easy to use!
TARP's turned a profit of $55 billion WHAT is wrong with that program???

 

[kaz]

Proof you are really a dummy TARP has turned a Profit!!!

TARP was an abomination to liberty. It doesn't matter what happened. It turned market place losers into winners with money confiscated by force not consumer choice

 

[NYcarbineer]

The two time periods aren't comparable.

And there is NO comparison between Obama's philosophy and background with Reagan.
Obama had NO private experience. Obama hadn't any executive experience. Obama's training was agitation. Obama had NO MILITARY experience
and dislikes the military.
Reagan.. was an actor, and low and behold President of a Union the Screen Actors' Guild!!!
Reagan was a spokesperson for industries.
Reagan was in the military and would NEVER NEVER make a statement like Obama did..."military air-raiding villages, killing civilians"!!!
Reagan WAS A Governor making executive decisions, hiring people smarter then him and encouraging not discouraging capitalism.
Reagan was a uniter who's experience over the years was to get people together from disparate backgrounds.


Obama is a divider. Reagan was a uniter.

Reagan expanded Medicare and Medicaid, and saved Social Security.

Those were his good points.

He ended the cold war idiot!!!

What is wrong with people like you that at least admit the facts!
Obviously you were too young to live during the MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) period when triggers were itchy to launch thousands of missiles.
Reagan's maligned "Star Wars" scared Russian generals to admit they couldn't combat. Thus they had to adopt more civilized society and as a result, the
Berlin Wall fell when Reagan challenged...
"General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization, come here to this gate.
Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!
Tear down this wall - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The truth was that Gorbachev beat a forced retreat from Eastern Europe and a hunkered down for a last ditch effort to preserve the Soviet Union. On the day the Berlin Wall came down, Nov. 9, 1989, Gorbachev met with the Communist leadership — the Politburo — to discuss the emerging threat of secessionist movements in the Baltic states and Ukraine. Moscow had given up on Germany. It was not even on the agenda. As the British historian Timothy Garton Ash puts it, Gorbachev was at best "a hero of retreat."
Looking back 20 years Who deserves credit for ending the Cold War MinnPost

He didn't end the Cold War because we're still in a cold war with Russia.

 

[Wyatt earp]

You mean Democrat Congress spent like drunken sailors. Oh and one Obama deficit is bigger than Reagan's entire budget. Reagan ran the entire government on less than an Obama deficit

Again, another half-brained right winger steps up showing stupidity and baseless hatred.....

Hey, dingbat.......How did Obama predecessor start two wars (estimated costs $3 TRILLION) gave tax CUTS and unpaid Medicare part D????

WHO PAID FOR THOSE CONSERVATIVE ADVENTURES?

hey dumb ass, ya know we didn't have a draft right? The military payroll would have been paid regardless of war or no war and you do know moron who restocked the US military of spent tomahawk's , bombs and crap were made mostly by union workers in the states during a recession.


You Libs are dumb as hell

 

[Wyatt earp]

The two time periods aren't comparable.

And there is NO comparison between Obama's philosophy and background with Reagan.
Obama had NO private experience. Obama hadn't any executive experience. Obama's training was agitation. Obama had NO MILITARY experience
and dislikes the military.
Reagan.. was an actor, and low and behold President of a Union the Screen Actors' Guild!!!
Reagan was a spokesperson for industries.
Reagan was in the military and would NEVER NEVER make a statement like Obama did..."military air-raiding villages, killing civilians"!!!
Reagan WAS A Governor making executive decisions, hiring people smarter then him and encouraging not discouraging capitalism.
Reagan was a uniter who's experience over the years was to get people together from disparate backgrounds.


Obama is a divider. Reagan was a uniter.

Reagan expanded Medicare and Medicaid, and saved Social Security.

Those were his good points.

He ended the cold war idiot!!!

What is wrong with people like you that at least admit the facts!
Obviously you were too young to live during the MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) period when triggers were itchy to launch thousands of missiles.
Reagan's maligned "Star Wars" scared Russian generals to admit they couldn't combat. Thus they had to adopt more civilized society and as a result, the
Berlin Wall fell when Reagan challenged...
"General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization, come here to this gate.
Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!
Tear down this wall - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The truth was that Gorbachev beat a forced retreat from Eastern Europe and a hunkered down for a last ditch effort to preserve the Soviet Union. On the day the Berlin Wall came down, Nov. 9, 1989, Gorbachev met with the Communist leadership — the Politburo — to discuss the emerging threat of secessionist movements in the Baltic states and Ukraine. Moscow had given up on Germany. It was not even on the agenda. As the British historian Timothy Garton Ash puts it, Gorbachev was at best "a hero of retreat."
Looking back 20 years Who deserves credit for ending the Cold War MinnPost

He didn't end the Cold War because we're still in a cold war with Russia.

You just get out of jail or something? Cold war 1 ended 24 years ago?, your pussy ass Messiah started it again.

 

[healthmyths]

The two time periods aren't comparable.

And there is NO comparison between Obama's philosophy and background with Reagan.
Obama had NO private experience. Obama hadn't any executive experience. Obama's training was agitation. Obama had NO MILITARY experience
and dislikes the military.
Reagan.. was an actor, and low and behold President of a Union the Screen Actors' Guild!!!
Reagan was a spokesperson for industries.
Reagan was in the military and would NEVER NEVER make a statement like Obama did..."military air-raiding villages, killing civilians"!!!
Reagan WAS A Governor making executive decisions, hiring people smarter then him and encouraging not discouraging capitalism.
Reagan was a uniter who's experience over the years was to get people together from disparate backgrounds.


Obama is a divider. Reagan was a uniter.

Reagan expanded Medicare and Medicaid, and saved Social Security.

Those were his good points.

He ended the cold war idiot!!!

What is wrong with people like you that at least admit the facts!
Obviously you were too young to live during the MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) period when triggers were itchy to launch thousands of missiles.
Reagan's maligned "Star Wars" scared Russian generals to admit they couldn't combat. Thus they had to adopt more civilized society and as a result, the
Berlin Wall fell when Reagan challenged...
"General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization, come here to this gate.
Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!
Tear down this wall - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The truth was that Gorbachev beat a forced retreat from Eastern Europe and a hunkered down for a last ditch effort to preserve the Soviet Union. On the day the Berlin Wall came down, Nov. 9, 1989, Gorbachev met with the Communist leadership — the Politburo — to discuss the emerging threat of secessionist movements in the Baltic states and Ukraine. Moscow had given up on Germany. It was not even on the agenda. As the British historian Timothy Garton Ash puts it, Gorbachev was at best "a hero of retreat."
Looking back 20 years Who deserves credit for ending the Cold War MinnPost

He didn't end the Cold War because we're still in a cold war with Russia.

FACTS not guesses or personal hyperbole..OK and not according to YOUR MESSIAH, the cold war is over!!!

On the other hand, the President needs to be somewhat conciliatory. Russia and the U.S. are still dealing with the host of aforementioned problems that require cooperation, and despite their struggles over the past couple decades, Russia is still a global power.

But are all these issues the start of another Cold War? Not so much, Obama indicated last week.

“Our approach as the United States is not to see these as some Cold War chessboard in which we’re in competition with Russia,” Obama said Wednesday at a summit in Mexico.

“Our goal is to make sure that the people of Ukraine are able to make decisions for themselves about their future.”

But Sen. John McCain, a staunch critic of the Obama administration’s foreign policy and in particular its dealings with Russia, said that Obama is the most naïve president of his lifetime and that this situation is the latest example.

"The president said this had nothing to do with the Cold War," the Arizona Republican said on CBS’s “Face The Nation.” "In the eyes of Vladimir Putin, it does. He wants to restore the Russian empire.”

But Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Illinois, said that dealing with Putin is tough, especially given his background.

“Let's remember that each president tries to find a positive track, but let’s not forget that Vladimir Putin wasn't just a member of the KGB, he was the head of the secret police, the Soviet KGB. This is a man that we should take very seriously,” Durbin said on “Fox News Sunday.”

Still, Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-New Hampshire, said that issues in Ukraine give Obama another opportunity to engage Putin and the Russians.
The Cold War is over. Right CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

This one.

ROFLMNAO.... Now THAT is ADORABLE!

 

[RandallFlagg]

Until Barry embraces business - there will be no recovery. Sure, the federal government is growing by leaps and bounds - but that's it. Barry is a faculty lounge communist who believes that it is "government's responsibility" to "care" for us. I believe that he is full of shit.

Apparently you think it is the government's responsibility to cater to big business but to abandon everyone else. Do you like the idea of plutocracy that much?

No. It's GOVERNMENT'S responsibility to make the climate viable for BUSINESS. Why do you suppose it is that business has (in the neighborhood) of 2 trillion dollars off-shore? Can you imagine what would happen if the faculty lounge communist suddenly made business viable again in this country? Can you imagine what would would happen if the Congress suddenly made it "profitable" for business to come BACK to America?

Unfortunately you look to government for your support. I look to the private sector for support. America making things and selling things. As for the government "supporting" us - that was NEVER their job. Take a civics class. Let government make the business environment viable again. We will ALL prosper.

 

[Jarhead]

You right wingers never show much intelligence and, on that count, you don't ever disappoint.....

On one hand you start a thread comparing recoveries between Obama (whom you rabidly hate)....and Reagan (who is your conservative deity.)

However, you then go on preaching the conservative mantra that the federal government has NO ROLE in shaping the economic welfare of our nation....

So, which is it????

pay attention.

Reagan policies involved less government intervention allowing businesses to prosper.....a conservative ideology

Obama policies are all about government intervening and making decisions for businesses.....a progressive ideology

Get it?

 

[Moonglow]

You right wingers never show much intelligence and, on that count, you don't ever disappoint.....

On one hand you start a thread comparing recoveries between Obama (whom you rabidly hate)....and Reagan (who is your conservative deity.)

However, you then go on preaching the conservative mantra that the federal government has NO ROLE in shaping the economic welfare of our nation....

So, which is it????

pay attention.

Reagan policies involved less government intervention allowing businesses to prosper.....a conservative ideology

Obama policies are all about government intervening and making decisions for businesses.....a progressive ideology

Get it?

"Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, as would my dad — they would have a hard time if you define the Republican party — and I don’t — as having an orthodoxy that doesn’t allow for disagreement, doesn’t allow for finding some common ground." - See more at: Why Ronald Reagan Would Not Lead Today s GOP The Fiscal Times

 

[Esmeralda]

Actually..........Reagan dominates!!! In fact, the Obama recovery by comparison is laughable!!

But don't take my word for it.......check the graphs in this LINK >> OBAMA vs. REAGAN on GDP GROWTH NOT EVEN CLOSE The Gateway Pundit

Geez.........even I didn't think the Obama recovery has been that much of a joke!!

You people just amaze me. The recession was world wide. It was a global economic crisis. Countries all over the world are trying to recover, and they are not recovering any faster than is the US. Why do you expect miracles? Why are you so silly and foolish? Why do you expect something out of your leaders that leaders around the world cannot accomplish? You are like little children.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Obama's recovery?

That's an oxymoron.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Actually..........Reagan dominates!!! In fact, the Obama recovery by comparison is laughable!!

But don't take my word for it.......check the graphs in this LINK >> OBAMA vs. REAGAN on GDP GROWTH NOT EVEN CLOSE The Gateway Pundit

Geez.........even I didn't think the Obama recovery has been that much of a joke!!

You people just amaze me. The recession was world wide. It was a global economic crisis. Countries all over the world are trying to recover, and they are not recovering any faster than is the US. Why do you expect miracles? Why are you so silly and foolish? Why do you expect something out of your leaders that leaders around the world cannot accomplish? You are like little children.

Because Obama's the smartest person EVER.

 

[Moonglow]

Actually..........Reagan dominates!!! In fact, the Obama recovery by comparison is laughable!!

But don't take my word for it.......check the graphs in this LINK >> OBAMA vs. REAGAN on GDP GROWTH NOT EVEN CLOSE The Gateway Pundit

Geez.........even I didn't think the Obama recovery has been that much of a joke!!

You people just amaze me. The recession was world wide. It was a global economic crisis. Countries all over the world are trying to recover, and they are not recovering any faster than is the US. Why do you expect miracles? Why are you so silly and foolish? Why do you expect something out of your leaders that leaders around the world cannot accomplish? You are like little children.

Because Obama's the smartest person EVER.

Hardly...........

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Actually..........Reagan dominates!!! In fact, the Obama recovery by comparison is laughable!!

But don't take my word for it.......check the graphs in this LINK >> OBAMA vs. REAGAN on GDP GROWTH NOT EVEN CLOSE The Gateway Pundit

Geez.........even I didn't think the Obama recovery has been that much of a joke!!

You people just amaze me. The recession was world wide. It was a global economic crisis. Countries all over the world are trying to recover, and they are not recovering any faster than is the US. Why do you expect miracles? Why are you so silly and foolish? Why do you expect something out of your leaders that leaders around the world cannot accomplish? You are like little children.

Because Obama's the smartest person EVER.

Obama isn't the smartest man in a one hole outhouse. The turds are more intelligent

 

[Moonglow]

Actually..........Reagan dominates!!! In fact, the Obama recovery by comparison is laughable!!

But don't take my word for it.......check the graphs in this LINK >> OBAMA vs. REAGAN on GDP GROWTH NOT EVEN CLOSE The Gateway Pundit

Geez.........even I didn't think the Obama recovery has been that much of a joke!!

You people just amaze me. The recession was world wide. It was a global economic crisis. Countries all over the world are trying to recover, and they are not recovering any faster than is the US. Why do you expect miracles? Why are you so silly and foolish? Why do you expect something out of your leaders that leaders around the world cannot accomplish? You are like little children.

Because Obama's the smartest person EVER.

Obama isn't the smartest man in a one hole outhouse. The turds are more intelligent

He must be smarter than you,he's president and your??? eh, just a message board poster..........