Red Robin is Cutting 570 Jobs. Can You Guess Why?

[yiostheoy]

Red Robin is eliminating bussers at 570 of its locations due to states' hikes in the minimum wage.

"Despite what many people, including policymakers, would argue, this is an altogether painfully predictable response to increased labor costs. It’s basic economics. The “first law of demand” teaches us that when the price of a good or service increases, people will tend to buy fewer units. Conversely, when the price of a good or service decreases, people will tend to buy more. This idea is usually presented no later than chapter 3 in any econ 101 textbook.

"Labor is no exception to this rule. If the cost of employing workers increases, we’d expect companies to hire fewer workers and even to let some go ...

"While we may not like the idea of someone trying to live on $5 or even $7 an hour, we can likely all agree that earning a small wage is better than earning nothing at all due to unemployment. It’s easy to vilify restaurants and other companies when they respond to higher costs with layoffs. But it’s important to place the blame where it belongs. In this case, it’s bad policy—not incompetence, not corporate greed—that’s causing people to lose their jobs."

Red Robin is Cutting 570 Jobs. Can You Guess Why?

I ate at one once and the food was crap.

 

[yiostheoy]

Gee, you mean I was right months ago when I predicted this outcome? <yawn>

Anyone notice some restaurants using ipad menus with nice pictures and descriptions of the food items? Anyone care to guess what is next?

Red Robin is crap and so they need to blame somebody else.

 

[Aldo Raine]

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Nobody here has ever argued that somebody flipping burgers deserves to make what a surgeon makes, that's just a fucking lie. But minimum wage has not even come close to keeping up with COL since way back in the Raygun era. I know you feel most people should make only $5.00/hr, because these businesses need more breaks. Fact is they have had it well since the 80's. Wages for the working class have stagnated badly.

Wages need to be determined between an employer and an employee. The last thing we need is some filthy ass government asshole dictating what wages should be. All that does is fuck up the labor market and result in layoffs, failed businesses, technology improvement to circumvent labor or higher prices.

If you go to a restaurant and you don't think your sever is getting enough money then all you have to do is tip he/she higher. If you think the kitchen staff isn't getting paid enough then leave money for them. Problem solved. We don't need the government to force the business to pay more than prevailing labor market rates.

Your right, we should never do anything to protect that filthy worker from work place abuses. Especially when it comes to wages.

From an old 52 year old guy like me, get a skill , you don't need no one to protect you the world is your oyster ....

Guy we are talking about entry level jobs for Christ sake

[QUO



Your right, we should never do anything to protect that filthy worker from work place abuses. Especially when it comes to wages.

You can "protect them" all you want with your money. Leave me out. I can handle my own wage negotiations. I don't need the government doing it for me. I also don't want or need the government to tell me what I need to pay people.

Of course if I was some sorry ass Democrat voting Moon Bat pot head that couldn't make a living without the the government forcing somebody else to pay me more then I might think differently.

The government establishing wages is absolutely the wrong thing to do. Not only is it bad economics but it is oppressive.

Your right, the very young, old and sickly are often times filling these entry level jobs. Sure they are going to be able to negotiate and strong arm for themselves . You are kidding right. Your not tjat cold are you?

 

[Wyatt earp]

[QU


Nobody here has ever argued that somebody flipping burgers deserves to make what a surgeon makes, that's just a fucking lie. But minimum wage has not even come close to keeping up with COL since way back in the Raygun era. I know you feel most people should make only $5.00/hr, because these businesses need more breaks. Fact is they have had it well since the 80's. Wages for the working class have stagnated badly.

Wages need to be determined between an employer and an employee. The last thing we need is some filthy ass government asshole dictating what wages should be. All that does is fuck up the labor market and result in layoffs, failed businesses, technology improvement to circumvent labor or higher prices.

If you go to a restaurant and you don't think your sever is getting enough money then all you have to do is tip he/she higher. If you think the kitchen staff isn't getting paid enough then leave money for them. Problem solved. We don't need the government to force the business to pay more than prevailing labor market rates.

Your right, we should never do anything to protect that filthy worker from work place abuses. Especially when it comes to wages.

From an old 52 year old guy like me, get a skill , you don't need no one to protect you the world is your oyster ....

Guy we are talking about entry level jobs for Christ sake.

I started at a entry level job at browns chicken (a local fast food chain in the Chicago area) worked two jobs the second one for 18 hours a week at a automation factory on work release from high school.


So let's recap my life at 16 years old shall we


I would wake up at 5am

Go to work from 7am till 11 am

Go to high school from 11:30 am till 4 pm

Go to work at browns chicken at 4:30 pm till close (10pm)

Rinse and repeat.


I know own a home in South Carolina on a lake.

 

[Flash]

[QU

From an old 52 year old guy like me, get a skill , you don't need no one to protect you the world is your oyster ....

I am a 70 year old man. I am retired now but I took responsibility for my own job security. I never needed a corrupt politician elected by greedy special interest groups forcing my employer to pay me more money than my labor was worth.

These Moon Bats hate the concept of personal responsibility, don't they?

Yup because you had a skill, you worked your ass off and never ever kissed ass, you owe it to the man upstairs and this




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Well I did have to kis a little ass along the way. Disgusting but it beat the hell out of doing roofing in the summer in Florida for 90 cents an hour.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

[QU

From an old 52 year old guy like me, get a skill , you don't need no one to protect you the world is your oyster ....

I am a 70 year old man. I am retired now but I took responsibility for my own job security. I never needed a corrupt politician elected by greedy special interest groups forcing my employer to pay me more money than my labor was worth.

These Moon Bats hate the concept of personal responsibility, don't they?

Without victims and government dependents, the Democrat party would only be something we read about in history books.

 

[Wyatt earp]

[QU

From an old 52 year old guy like me, get a skill , you don't need no one to protect you the world is your oyster ....

I am a 70 year old man. I am retired now but I took responsibility for my own job security. I never needed a corrupt politician elected by greedy special interest groups forcing my employer to pay me more money than my labor was worth.

These Moon Bats hate the concept of personal responsibility, don't they?

Without victims and government dependents, the Democrat party would only be something we read about in history books.

Exactly, I have been saying that for years

 

[BrokeLoser]

[QU


Nobody here has ever argued that somebody flipping burgers deserves to make what a surgeon makes, that's just a fucking lie. But minimum wage has not even come close to keeping up with COL since way back in the Raygun era. I know you feel most people should make only $5.00/hr, because these businesses need more breaks. Fact is they have had it well since the 80's. Wages for the working class have stagnated badly.

Wages need to be determined between an employer and an employee. The last thing we need is some filthy ass government asshole dictating what wages should be. All that does is fuck up the labor market and result in layoffs, failed businesses, technology improvement to circumvent labor or higher prices.

If you go to a restaurant and you don't think your sever is getting enough money then all you have to do is tip he/she higher. If you think the kitchen staff isn't getting paid enough then leave money for them. Problem solved. We don't need the government to force the business to pay more than prevailing labor market rates.

Your right, we should never do anything to protect that filthy worker from work place abuses. Especially when it comes to wages.

From an old 52 year old guy like me, get a skill , you don't need no one to protect you the world is your oyster ....

Guy we are talking about entry level jobs for Christ sake

[QUO



Your right, we should never do anything to protect that filthy worker from work place abuses. Especially when it comes to wages.

You can "protect them" all you want with your money. Leave me out. I can handle my own wage negotiations. I don't need the government doing it for me. I also don't want or need the government to tell me what I need to pay people.

Of course if I was some sorry ass Democrat voting Moon Bat pot head that couldn't make a living without the the government forcing somebody else to pay me more then I might think differently.

The government establishing wages is absolutely the wrong thing to do. Not only is it bad economics but it is oppressive.

Your right, the very young, old and sickly are often times filling these entry level jobs. Sure they are going to be able to negotiate and strong arm for themselves . You are kidding right. Your not tjat cold are you?

Let’s be honest here...you don’t give two shits about the “young, old or sickly”....It’s more likely that 38 year old Guadalupe who barely speaks English will hope to make this job her career...that’s who you’re really worried about. Stop lying

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Red Robin is eliminating bussers at 570 of its locations due to states' hikes in the minimum wage.

"Despite what many people, including policymakers, would argue, this is an altogether painfully predictable response to increased labor costs. It’s basic economics. The “first law of demand” teaches us that when the price of a good or service increases, people will tend to buy fewer units. Conversely, when the price of a good or service decreases, people will tend to buy more. This idea is usually presented no later than chapter 3 in any econ 101 textbook.

"Labor is no exception to this rule. If the cost of employing workers increases, we’d expect companies to hire fewer workers and even to let some go ...

"While we may not like the idea of someone trying to live on $5 or even $7 an hour, we can likely all agree that earning a small wage is better than earning nothing at all due to unemployment. It’s easy to vilify restaurants and other companies when they respond to higher costs with layoffs. But it’s important to place the blame where it belongs. In this case, it’s bad policy—not incompetence, not corporate greed—that’s causing people to lose their jobs."

Red Robin is Cutting 570 Jobs. Can You Guess Why?

So a company cuts costs in order to make a profit in light of different circumstances. So what? There are plenty of jobs in the US right now.

Who'd be bitching at the ending of slavery because it'd put some people out of work because the costs of labor went up?

So just worry about how many jobs are out there and screw the business owners? Who cares about them, right???

 

[Wyatt earp]

[QU

From an old 52 year old guy like me, get a skill , you don't need no one to protect you the world is your oyster ....

I am a 70 year old man. I am retired now but I took responsibility for my own job security. I never needed a corrupt politician elected by greedy special interest groups forcing my employer to pay me more money than my labor was worth.

These Moon Bats hate the concept of personal responsibility, don't they?

Yup because you had a skill, you worked your ass off and never ever kissed ass, you owe it to the man upstairs and this




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Well I did have to kis a little ass along the way. Disgusting but it beat the hell out of doing roofing in the summer in Florida for 90 cents an hour.

I forgot about your roofing story, you should of did pipe welding, you never would of went to college.

 

[Flash]

[QU






Your right, the very young, old and sickly are often times filling these entry level jobs. Sure they are going to be able to negotiate and strong arm for themselves . You are kidding right. Your not tjat cold are you?

Who gives a shit?

It is not my problem what other people are able to negotiate with their salary. That is between them and the employer. We sure as hell don't need the government telling the employer what they have to pay.

The government that gives is also the government that takes away. It is best to have limited government and maximum liberty.

Monn Bts don;'t understand that very well, do they?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Red Robin is eliminating bussers at 570 of its locations due to states' hikes in the minimum wage.

"Despite what many people, including policymakers, would argue, this is an altogether painfully predictable response to increased labor costs. It’s basic economics. The “first law of demand” teaches us that when the price of a good or service increases, people will tend to buy fewer units. Conversely, when the price of a good or service decreases, people will tend to buy more. This idea is usually presented no later than chapter 3 in any econ 101 textbook.

"Labor is no exception to this rule. If the cost of employing workers increases, we’d expect companies to hire fewer workers and even to let some go ...

"While we may not like the idea of someone trying to live on $5 or even $7 an hour, we can likely all agree that earning a small wage is better than earning nothing at all due to unemployment. It’s easy to vilify restaurants and other companies when they respond to higher costs with layoffs. But it’s important to place the blame where it belongs. In this case, it’s bad policy—not incompetence, not corporate greed—that’s causing people to lose their jobs."

Red Robin is Cutting 570 Jobs. Can You Guess Why?

So a company cuts costs in order to make a profit in light of different circumstances. So what? There are plenty of jobs in the US right now.

Who'd be bitching at the ending of slavery because it'd put some people out of work because the costs of labor went up?

So just worry about how many jobs are out there and screw the business owners? Who cares about them, right???

Ray, you support fucking over smaller businesses all the time. Don't come on here and act all fucking pious. You promote large multi-national companies at every opportunity.

 

[Aldo Raine]

[QU


Nobody here has ever argued that somebody flipping burgers deserves to make what a surgeon makes, that's just a fucking lie. But minimum wage has not even come close to keeping up with COL since way back in the Raygun era. I know you feel most people should make only $5.00/hr, because these businesses need more breaks. Fact is they have had it well since the 80's. Wages for the working class have stagnated badly.

Wages need to be determined between an employer and an employee. The last thing we need is some filthy ass government asshole dictating what wages should be. All that does is fuck up the labor market and result in layoffs, failed businesses, technology improvement to circumvent labor or higher prices.

If you go to a restaurant and you don't think your sever is getting enough money then all you have to do is tip he/she higher. If you think the kitchen staff isn't getting paid enough then leave money for them. Problem solved. We don't need the government to force the business to pay more than prevailing labor market rates.

Your right, we should never do anything to protect that filthy worker from work place abuses. Especially when it comes to wages.

From an old 52 year old guy like me, get a skill , you don't need no one to protect you the world is your oyster ....

Guy we are talking about entry level jobs for Christ sake.

I started at a entry level job at browns chicken (a local fast food chain in the Chicago area) worked two jobs the second one for 18 hours a week at a automation factory on work release from high school.


So let's recap my life at 16 years old shall we


I would wake up at 5am

Go to work from 7am till 11 am

Go to high school from 11:30 am till 4 pm

Go to work at browns chicken at 4:30 pm till close (10pm)

Rinse and repeat.


I know own a home in South Carolina on a lake.

Awesome, and your minimum wage job at the time paid you more than what these kids get today because of cost of living. This is not that tough!

 

[Aldo Raine]

[QU


Nobody here has ever argued that somebody flipping burgers deserves to make what a surgeon makes, that's just a fucking lie. But minimum wage has not even come close to keeping up with COL since way back in the Raygun era. I know you feel most people should make only $5.00/hr, because these businesses need more breaks. Fact is they have had it well since the 80's. Wages for the working class have stagnated badly.

Wages need to be determined between an employer and an employee. The last thing we need is some filthy ass government asshole dictating what wages should be. All that does is fuck up the labor market and result in layoffs, failed businesses, technology improvement to circumvent labor or higher prices.

If you go to a restaurant and you don't think your sever is getting enough money then all you have to do is tip he/she higher. If you think the kitchen staff isn't getting paid enough then leave money for them. Problem solved. We don't need the government to force the business to pay more than prevailing labor market rates.

Your right, we should never do anything to protect that filthy worker from work place abuses. Especially when it comes to wages.

From an old 52 year old guy like me, get a skill , you don't need no one to protect you the world is your oyster ....

Guy we are talking about entry level jobs for Christ sake

[QUO



Your right, we should never do anything to protect that filthy worker from work place abuses. Especially when it comes to wages.

You can "protect them" all you want with your money. Leave me out. I can handle my own wage negotiations. I don't need the government doing it for me. I also don't want or need the government to tell me what I need to pay people.

Of course if I was some sorry ass Democrat voting Moon Bat pot head that couldn't make a living without the the government forcing somebody else to pay me more then I might think differently.

The government establishing wages is absolutely the wrong thing to do. Not only is it bad economics but it is oppressive.

Your right, the very young, old and sickly are often times filling these entry level jobs. Sure they are going to be able to negotiate and strong arm for themselves . You are kidding right. Your not tjat cold are you?

Let’s be honest here...you don’t give two shits about the “young, old or sickly”....It’s more likely that 38 year old Guadalupe who barely speaks English will hope to make this job her career...that’s who you’re really worried about. Stop lying

Not really, but I truly don't give a shit for a shit spackled Muppet fart like you!

 

[Flash]

[QU

From an old 52 year old guy like me, get a skill , you don't need no one to protect you the world is your oyster ....

I am a 70 year old man. I am retired now but I took responsibility for my own job security. I never needed a corrupt politician elected by greedy special interest groups forcing my employer to pay me more money than my labor was worth.

These Moon Bats hate the concept of personal responsibility, don't they?

Yup because you had a skill, you worked your ass off and never ever kissed ass, you owe it to the man upstairs and this




View attachment 174299

Well I did have to kis a little ass along the way. Disgusting but it beat the hell out of doing roofing in the summer in Florida for 90 cents an hour.

I forgot about your roofing story, you should of did pipe welding, you never would of went to college.

I was a losly roofer but I also learned electrician skills. I often wondered how better my life would have been had I been an hourly electrician instead of an engineer. A 40 hour work week. Overtime. A lot less stress. No managing assholes. No waking up in the middle of the night worrying about an engineering project schedule.

 

[Aldo Raine]

[QU






Your right, the very young, old and sickly are often times filling these entry level jobs. Sure they are going to be able to negotiate and strong arm for themselves . You are kidding right. Your not tjat cold are you?

Who gives a shit?

It is not my problem what other people are able to negotiate with their salary. That is between them and the employer. We sure as hell don't need the government telling the employer what they have to pay.

The government that gives is also the government that takes away. It is best to have limited government and maximum liberty.

Monn Bts don;'t understand that very well, do they?

When talking about a minimum wage, yes we do. I am not talking about it being a living wage, but yes there needs to be a minimum wage!

 

[danielpalos]

Red Robin is eliminating bussers at 570 of its locations due to states' hikes in the minimum wage.

"Despite what many people, including policymakers, would argue, this is an altogether painfully predictable response to increased labor costs. It’s basic economics. The “first law of demand” teaches us that when the price of a good or service increases, people will tend to buy fewer units. Conversely, when the price of a good or service decreases, people will tend to buy more. This idea is usually presented no later than chapter 3 in any econ 101 textbook.

"Labor is no exception to this rule. If the cost of employing workers increases, we’d expect companies to hire fewer workers and even to let some go ...

"While we may not like the idea of someone trying to live on $5 or even $7 an hour, we can likely all agree that earning a small wage is better than earning nothing at all due to unemployment. It’s easy to vilify restaurants and other companies when they respond to higher costs with layoffs. But it’s important to place the blame where it belongs. In this case, it’s bad policy—not incompetence, not corporate greed—that’s causing people to lose their jobs."

Red Robin is Cutting 570 Jobs. Can You Guess Why?

No tariffs to keep them from doing it for the bottom line?

 

[frigidweirdo]

[QU

From an old 52 year old guy like me, get a skill , you don't need no one to protect you the world is your oyster ....

I am a 70 year old man. I am retired now but I took responsibility for my own job security. I never needed a corrupt politician elected by greedy special interest groups forcing my employer to pay me more money than my labor was worth.

These Moon Bats hate the concept of personal responsibility, don't they?

Without victims and government dependents, the Democrat party would only be something we read about in history books.

God forbid that the weakest in society would actually have a voice. Hitler had it right, right Ray? The poor don't need a voice, they need a camp?

 

[Flash]

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When talking about a minimum wage, yes we do. I am not talking about it being a living wage, but yes there needs to be a minimum wage!

Minimum wage was never meant to be "livable". They are entry level part time jobs with minimal skills. Skills that don't demand much pay.

If you are expecting to get the American Dream flipping burgers then you are doing it wrong.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

My local McDonald's has gone from 12 employees and one manager on staff for mornings down to 6... three cooks and three counter and drive up personnel and one manager... they added two new positions but they are order kiosks...6 hard working college students lost their job due to ridiculous minimum wage hikes... Once again a bunch of idiot do gooders doing great harm to make themselves feel good...hey libs!!!!! stop trying to help people you don't know what the hell you are doing!!!!

Automation is going to replace between 28-35% of jobs in the next 10 or so years. You can rail on about it being a minimum wage hike all you want. The truth is you can not stop automaton.

Correct, you cannot stop it, but you can slow it down.

When businesses have to make a decision, it's based on long-term profitability. Automation is expensive, but the question is it more or less expensive than human labor?

When a company finds that humans are more expensive than the investment and maintenance of machines, they buy the machines.

The technology has become far more affordable and reliable over just the last 5 years. It is inevitable.

So the solution is to make human labor more expensive???