Lysistrata
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You have it backwards. The EVANGELICALS are the ones who shit on the beliefs of others, who denigrate other Christians who don't believe as they do, and who reserve the right to deny service to those they deem unworthy. They ignore Jesus commandment to "Love one another as I have loved you", and his instruction "Judge not lest you be judged" and have determined in their own minds that some sins are worse than others. They have no prohibition on serving second marriages or adulterers, but they draw the line at homosexuals. It makes no theological sense whatsoever. Adultery is prohibited in the 10 Commandments and was punishable by stoning to death in Biblical times. But homosexuality was neither. The obvious logical conclusion is that evangelicals are hiding behind religion to discriminate against gays, just as they hide behind "private religious schools" to ensure their children aren't forced to mix with non-white children at school.
Evangelicals are using "religious freedom" to discriminate against gays and non-whites, and because the Republican agenda lets them control the sexual behaviour of women. That's while they will continue to support Republicans. Racism, misogyny and homophobia. It has nothing to do with religion.
If you actually read some of the cases involving bakers, most of them also don't do halloween cakes, or other things that go against their morals. And it is only recently that they have been forced to do so, because of the SSM thing. You can't bitch about it being the issue when it is what is creating the issue in the first place.
You just can't tolerate others who believe differently than you, and you need to use government force to get your way, like the mewling little coward-twat you are.
You don't get to decide how they follow their religion, and government doesn't either until there there is some compelling, overriding interest.
Human sacrifice would be that, having to go to another baker is not.
Bullshit. If the baker is refusing to bake Halloween cakes, one presumes they wouldn't bake ANY Halloween cakes. The baker is baking wedding cakes for some people and not for others that he deems to be sinners. But he doesn't exclude other sinners either - like adulterers. So if some sinners are OK, why not others? You see how this isn't about religion at all.
Evangelicals are really, really quick to claim that THEIR rights are violated, when in fact it is the evangelicals who are the ones who are violating the rights of others. It is positively amazing how many of the basic tenets of the Christian faith that evangelicals are prepared to violate in order to assert their Constitutional right to hate gays.
Read the case. He doesn't. This is all about religion, but more importantly it's about horrible people like you who need to force others to be like you, think like you, and act like you OR ELSE.
Where in the Constitution does it say a person has a right to a specific cake from a specific baker?
Where it says "all men are created equal, with certain inalienable rights".
Even the Bible says that Christian should obey the laws of the land. These bigots don't have a leg to stand on - not Constitutionally, and certainly not according to the word in the Bible.
There is no inalienable right to insist that everyone honor crazy new ceremonies that are invented, even if they offend people's religion.
America has freedom of religion, you know. Quite a change from England in 1776
Nobody has to "honor" anything other than their legal obligations. I seriously doubt that anyone would agree to enter into a marriage that offends their religious beliefs. Whether or not the marriage might offend some uninvolved member of the general public is entirely immaterial. Each member of the public has freedom of religion.
What "crazy new ceremonies"? The traditional civil ceremony is always available at the courthouse and results in a civil contract only. If a couple wants another type of ceremony they have to find someone to preside over it who is authorized to sign the legal documents.