Remember Whining About Cops Taking A Crazy Vet's Guns?

[g5000]

Marine killed in Texas shootings suspected in his wife's slaying

North Carolina police are investigating whether a Marine who was killed after going on a shooting rampage in Texas is also connected to the fatal stabbing of his wife, a police spokeswoman said on Tuesday.

Esteban Smith is suspected in a West Texas shooting rampage that left one woman dead and five others, including Concho County Sheriff Richard Doane, wounded, according to the Texas Department of Public Safety.

After the shooting, police recovered an assault rifle, a handgun and hundreds of rounds of ammunition from Smith's car, according to Texas officials.

Smith served two combat tours in Afghanistan, returning most recently in November 2012, Marine Corps spokeswoman Capt. Maureen Krebs told the Associated Press.

There's a reason why cops take guns away from crazy people, idiots. Using these mad fucks as some kind of "evidence" that Obamazz cummin fer yer gunz is actually proof of mental retardation on your part.

 

[OKTexas]

Only a court of law should have the ability to take someone's rights, period, end of story. Ever heard of due process?

 

[ABikerSailor]

Only a court of law should have the ability to take someone's rights, period, end of story. Ever heard of due process?

So.....................you're cool with a person being diagnosed by a bona fide psychologist, but we've gotta wait until they go off and kill someone and get convicted as a felon before they aren't allowed to have guns?

Why are you in support of crazy people being allowed to have weapons, especially when they do stuff like this?

 

[Zona]

Only a court of law should have the ability to take someone's rights, period, end of story. Ever heard of due process?

Ever hear of back ground checks? That way crazies cant get them in the first place. Period, end of story.

Ever hear of common sense?

 

[Zona]

Only a court of law should have the ability to take someone's rights, period, end of story. Ever heard of due process?

So.....................you're cool with a person being diagnosed by a bona fide psychologist, but we've gotta wait until they go off and kill someone and get convicted as a felon before they aren't allowed to have guns?

Why are you in support of crazy people being allowed to have weapons, especially when they do stuff like this?

 

[whitehall]

Has it become disrespectful to point out that Veterans sometimes commit criminal acts? One of the perps in the infamous Truman Capote account of the horrendous murders in Kansas "In Cold Blood" was awarded a Bronze Star in Korea. Tim McVeigh was a Bronze Star Soldier in Iraq. Shit happens and Veterans are sometimes in the middle of it just like draft dodgers.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Crazy? That "Crazy" vet defended your freedom! You childish liberal prick. Show some freaking respect.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Has it become disrespectful to point out that Veterans sometimes commit criminal acts? One of the perps in the infamous Truman Capote account of the horrendous murders in Kansas "In Cold Blood" was awarded a Bronze Star in Korea. Tim McVeigh was a Bronze Star Soldier in Iraq. Shit happens and Veterans are sometimes in the middle of it just like draft dodgers.

Don't forget about the dude who shot all those people from a tower in Austin back in the 50's, and the dude who shot Kennedy were both Marines.

However..............if someone has been diagnosed with PTSD (meaning that it is possible for them to snap at almost any time), and it had been done by an actual physician and psychologist, they should not be allowed to own guns.

And.................it IS possible to recover from PTSD, and when they can show significant progress towards recovery, their gun rights should be given back.

 

[OKTexas]

Only a court of law should have the ability to take someone's rights, period, end of story. Ever heard of due process?

So.....................you're cool with a person being diagnosed by a bona fide psychologist, but we've gotta wait until they go off and kill someone and get convicted as a felon before they aren't allowed to have guns?

Why are you in support of crazy people being allowed to have weapons, especially when they do stuff like this?

You're not very up to date on how things are supposed to be done are you. If a competent medical authority feels a person is a danger to themselves or others they have an obligation to report it to authorities. At that point the police can legally temporarily confiscate the persons weapons and involuntarily commit the individual for a psyc eval. Then it's up to the courts to initiate a competency procedures and if the person is found incompetent then their rights can be permanently restricted. That is due process.

As for this guy even taking his guns evidently wouldn't have helped his wife, he used a knife on her. And your really stupid statement that I support crazy people having guns is as full of bullshit as you are. Freedom and rights automatically come with a price because we can never prevent human beings from taking advantage and abusing them no matter how many dumb assed laws you pass.

BTW there was nothing in the story that this guy had been diagnosed with anything.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Only a court of law should have the ability to take someone's rights, period, end of story. Ever heard of due process?

So.....................you're cool with a person being diagnosed by a bona fide psychologist, but we've gotta wait until they go off and kill someone and get convicted as a felon before they aren't allowed to have guns?

Why are you in support of crazy people being allowed to have weapons, especially when they do stuff like this?

You're not very up to date on how things are supposed to be done are you. If a competent medical authority feels a person is a danger to themselves or others they have an obligation to report it to authorities. At that point the police can legally temporarily confiscate the persons weapons and involuntarily commit the individual for a psyc eval. Then it's up to the courts to initiate a competency procedures and if the person is found incompetent then their rights can be permanently restricted. That is due process.

As for this guy even taking his guns evidently wouldn't have helped his wife, he used a knife on her. And your really stupid statement that I support crazy people having guns is as full of bullshit as you are. Freedom and rights automatically come with a price because we can never prevent human beings from taking advantage and abusing them no matter how many dumb assed laws you pass.

BTW there was nothing in the story that this guy had been diagnosed with anything.

However...............background checks can help us find out who the crazy people are. If this person had PTSD, and it was diagnosed by the military, his gun rights should have been suspended then.

 

[whitehall]

Only a court of law should have the ability to take someone's rights, period, end of story. Ever heard of due process?

So.....................you're cool with a person being diagnosed by a bona fide psychologist, but we've gotta wait until they go off and kill someone and get convicted as a felon before they aren't allowed to have guns?

Why are you in support of crazy people being allowed to have weapons, especially when they do stuff like this?

You're not very up to date on how things are supposed to be done are you. If a competent medical authority feels a person is a danger to themselves or others they have an obligation to report it to authorities. At that point the police can legally temporarily confiscate the persons weapons and involuntarily commit the individual for a psyc eval. Then it's up to the courts to initiate a competency procedures and if the person is found incompetent then their rights can be permanently restricted. That is due process.

As for this guy even taking his guns evidently wouldn't have helped his wife, he used a knife on her. And your really stupid statement that I support crazy people having guns is as full of bullshit as you are. Freedom and rights automatically come with a price because we can never prevent human beings from taking advantage and abusing them no matter how many dumb assed laws you pass.

I don't think the gigantic bureaucracy known as the V.A. is required to "notify authorities" about the mental state of Veterans who are so mentally impaired that the government authorizes disability compensation. The best we can do to protect society is to prevent them from "legally" purchasing weapons.

 

[OKTexas]

So.....................you're cool with a person being diagnosed by a bona fide psychologist, but we've gotta wait until they go off and kill someone and get convicted as a felon before they aren't allowed to have guns?

Why are you in support of crazy people being allowed to have weapons, especially when they do stuff like this?

You're not very up to date on how things are supposed to be done are you. If a competent medical authority feels a person is a danger to themselves or others they have an obligation to report it to authorities. At that point the police can legally temporarily confiscate the persons weapons and involuntarily commit the individual for a psyc eval. Then it's up to the courts to initiate a competency procedures and if the person is found incompetent then their rights can be permanently restricted. That is due process.

As for this guy even taking his guns evidently wouldn't have helped his wife, he used a knife on her. And your really stupid statement that I support crazy people having guns is as full of bullshit as you are. Freedom and rights automatically come with a price because we can never prevent human beings from taking advantage and abusing them no matter how many dumb assed laws you pass.

BTW there was nothing in the story that this guy had been diagnosed with anything.

However...............background checks can help us find out who the crazy people are. If this person had PTSD, and it was diagnosed by the military, his gun rights should have been suspended then.

IF !!!!! LMAO Care to speculate any more? Like I said, there was nothing in the story to indicate he had ANY previous problems.

 

[OKTexas]

So.....................you're cool with a person being diagnosed by a bona fide psychologist, but we've gotta wait until they go off and kill someone and get convicted as a felon before they aren't allowed to have guns?

Why are you in support of crazy people being allowed to have weapons, especially when they do stuff like this?

You're not very up to date on how things are supposed to be done are you. If a competent medical authority feels a person is a danger to themselves or others they have an obligation to report it to authorities. At that point the police can legally temporarily confiscate the persons weapons and involuntarily commit the individual for a psyc eval. Then it's up to the courts to initiate a competency procedures and if the person is found incompetent then their rights can be permanently restricted. That is due process.

As for this guy even taking his guns evidently wouldn't have helped his wife, he used a knife on her. And your really stupid statement that I support crazy people having guns is as full of bullshit as you are. Freedom and rights automatically come with a price because we can never prevent human beings from taking advantage and abusing them no matter how many dumb assed laws you pass.

I don't think the gigantic bureaucracy known as the V.A. is required to "notify authorities" about the mental state of Veterans who are so mentally impaired that the government authorizes disability compensation. The best we can do to protect society is to prevent them from "legally" purchasing weapons.

Do you live under a rock. The VA is doing exactly that without any due process, of course they say there is an administrative appeals process but that does not protect the veterans rights like a court would prior to taking away their ability to have a gun.

 

[g5000]

You're not very up to date on how things are supposed to be done are you. If a competent medical authority feels a person is a danger to themselves or others they have an obligation to report it to authorities. At that point the police can legally temporarily confiscate the persons weapons and involuntarily commit the individual for a psyc eval. Then it's up to the courts to initiate a competency procedures and if the person is found incompetent then their rights can be permanently restricted. That is due process.

As for this guy even taking his guns evidently wouldn't have helped his wife, he used a knife on her. And your really stupid statement that I support crazy people having guns is as full of bullshit as you are. Freedom and rights automatically come with a price because we can never prevent human beings from taking advantage and abusing them no matter how many dumb assed laws you pass.

BTW there was nothing in the story that this guy had been diagnosed with anything.

However...............background checks can help us find out who the crazy people are. If this person had PTSD, and it was diagnosed by the military, his gun rights should have been suspended then.

IF !!!!! LMAO Care to speculate any more? Like I said, there was nothing in the story to indicate he had ANY previous problems.

However, it does vindicate removing weapons from people who DO have a history or who make threats against themselves or others. And the people who whine about such instances are mentally retarded.

 

[g5000]

Crazy? That "Crazy" vet defended your freedom! You childish liberal prick. Show some freaking respect.

I'm a retired vet, retard.

 

[OKTexas]

However...............background checks can help us find out who the crazy people are. If this person had PTSD, and it was diagnosed by the military, his gun rights should have been suspended then.

IF !!!!! LMAO Care to speculate any more? Like I said, there was nothing in the story to indicate he had ANY previous problems.

However, it does vindicate removing weapons from people who DO have a history or who make threats against themselves or others. And the people who whine about such instances are mentally retarded.

If you seriously think this vindicates anything you're the retarded one. You got a guy that went nuts with no apparent previous history of problems. It was a law enforcement matter with no political bearing at all. And trying to politicize a tragedy is a very poor reflection on YOU.

 

[g5000]

IF !!!!! LMAO Care to speculate any more? Like I said, there was nothing in the story to indicate he had ANY previous problems.

However, it does vindicate removing weapons from people who DO have a history or who make threats against themselves or others. And the people who whine about such instances are mentally retarded.

If you seriously think this vindicates anything you're the retarded one. You got a guy that went nuts with no apparent previous history of problems. It was a law enforcement matter with no political bearing at all. And trying to politicize a tragedy is a very poor reflection on YOU.

The mentally retarded have been politicizing the shit out of the taking of weapons away from imbalanced whackjobs. Whining their asses off as if this was something new. It isn't. This is what cops and the medical community have been doing practically forever, and rightfully so.

It just goes to show just how retarded you all are. Only when Obama is President are you like, "DUuuuuhhhh, deyz cummin fer our gunz!"

 

[g5000]

You're not very up to date on how things are supposed to be done are you. If a competent medical authority feels a person is a danger to themselves or others they have an obligation to report it to authorities. At that point the police can legally temporarily confiscate the persons weapons and involuntarily commit the individual for a psyc eval. Then it's up to the courts to initiate a competency procedures and if the person is found incompetent then their rights can be permanently restricted. That is due process.

As for this guy even taking his guns evidently wouldn't have helped his wife, he used a knife on her. And your really stupid statement that I support crazy people having guns is as full of bullshit as you are. Freedom and rights automatically come with a price because we can never prevent human beings from taking advantage and abusing them no matter how many dumb assed laws you pass.

I don't think the gigantic bureaucracy known as the V.A. is required to "notify authorities" about the mental state of Veterans who are so mentally impaired that the government authorizes disability compensation. The best we can do to protect society is to prevent them from "legally" purchasing weapons.

Do you live under a rock. The VA is doing exactly that without any due process, of course they say there is an administrative appeals process but that does not protect the veterans rights like a court would prior to taking away their ability to have a gun.

You clearly have no clue what the words "due process" even mean. If the medical authorities and the police are following THE LAW, then due process is being observed. If THE LAW directs them to confiscate the weapons of a person who they consider an imminent threat to themselves or others, then due process has been observed.

 

[ABikerSailor]

IF !!!!! LMAO Care to speculate any more? Like I said, there was nothing in the story to indicate he had ANY previous problems.

However, it does vindicate removing weapons from people who DO have a history or who make threats against themselves or others. And the people who whine about such instances are mentally retarded.

If you seriously think this vindicates anything you're the retarded one. You got a guy that went nuts with no apparent previous history of problems. It was a law enforcement matter with no political bearing at all. And trying to politicize a tragedy is a very poor reflection on YOU.

Got anything that says he was mentally stable?

 

[whitehall]

You're not very up to date on how things are supposed to be done are you. If a competent medical authority feels a person is a danger to themselves or others they have an obligation to report it to authorities. At that point the police can legally temporarily confiscate the persons weapons and involuntarily commit the individual for a psyc eval. Then it's up to the courts to initiate a competency procedures and if the person is found incompetent then their rights can be permanently restricted. That is due process.

As for this guy even taking his guns evidently wouldn't have helped his wife, he used a knife on her. And your really stupid statement that I support crazy people having guns is as full of bullshit as you are. Freedom and rights automatically come with a price because we can never prevent human beings from taking advantage and abusing them no matter how many dumb assed laws you pass.

I don't think the gigantic bureaucracy known as the V.A. is required to "notify authorities" about the mental state of Veterans who are so mentally impaired that the government authorizes disability compensation. The best we can do to protect society is to prevent them from "legally" purchasing weapons.

Do you live under a rock. The VA is doing exactly that without any due process, of course they say there is an administrative appeals process but that does not protect the veterans rights like a court would prior to taking away their ability to have a gun.

Just what is the V.A. doing that bothers you so much about the mental stability of Veterans?