Report: Obama Knew a Year Before ACA Became Law Millions Would Lose Insurance

[S.J.]

These are crap policies being cancelled btw...

Actually, many of them are decent policies; they just do not offer 100% coverage on all preventative care. Costs are being shifted in many cases. For some, the policies under the ACA will be cheaper, but for others they will be more expensive. While I do support the ACA and believe it is a step in the right direction, there need to be some changes.

ACA is a typically paternalistic, condescending, one-size fits all approach to health care. It takes away consumer choice and takes power away from the public that actually has to buy the insurance.

Does a 60 year old women need to pay for annual prostate exams? Does a 30 year old male need to pay for a yearly pelvic, pap smear, and mammogram? Or how about an elder couple paying for well baby exams?

Auditor, you and I have had discussions on this topic, and we generally agree. The system is broken. Obamacare makes it much worse. It is a complete disaster. The plug will be pulled on this monster...it's just a question of when.

It's perfectly in line with the concept of socialism. Everyone is equal (except the government, they're more equal).

 

[Claudette]

Its a work up to single payer. Thats it in a nutshell.

How any moron would want the Govt in charge of HC in this country is beyond me.

The Govt that has never run anything cheaply or well.

The Govt that turns into reams of red tape, paperwork and waits running HC for 300 million Americans?

Talk about a fucking trainwreck.

 

[ScienceRocks]

No lie, just the rational human's inability to foresee mindless Pub, and insurers', dishonesty and obstruction...

I'm not really sure why I'm asking....but why do you think NBC News is lying about the President? Any theories?

You do realize that NBC is owned by a major player in the military industrial complex and they give way, WAY more money to Republicans than Democrats, right?

The media in America is not liberal. It's all owned by Republicans.

MSNBC just happens to be the only space left where truth and facts come into play.

I support the military very strongly and they fight against terrorist that want to turn the world into everything you hate.

 

[Geaux4it]

This is stunning. Absolutely stunning. And the report is from NBC News! Please read this and see how your President lies to you.




Report: Obama administration knew millions wouldn't be able to keep insurance
By Mike Krumboltz, Yahoo News


"Before the Affordable Care Act became law in 2010, President Obama promised Americans they could keep their healthcare plan if they liked it. But already hundreds of thousands of citizens are receiving notification that their plans are being cancelled because they don't comply with the new law, and, according to NBC News, the Obama administration has known for at least three years the cancellations were coming.

While campaigning for health care reform in 2009, Obama went out of his way to make one thing perfectly clear: if you like your current health care plan, you will be able to keep it.

On June 15, 2009, Obama said this: "We will keep this promise to the American people. If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep your healthcare plan. Period.”

In 2012, he echoed that sentiment, saying, "“If [you] already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance.”

However, many are finding that not to be the case. More than 300,000 cancellation notices have been sent out in Florida, according to Kaiser Health News, and another 180,000 in California. In New Jersey, the number of cancellations tops 800,000, the Star-Ledger reports.

According to NBC News, approximately 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million Americans who buy their health insurance individually should expect to receive a cancellation letter over the next year "because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law."

This could result in millions of Americans being forced to purchase different policies, potentially at higher premiums.

So how did the Obama administration know the cancellations would be coming?

The Affordable Care Act states that people who had health insurance prior to March 23, 2010 – the day President Obama signed the bill into law – will be able to keep those policies even if they don't meet the requirements of the new law. However, the Department of Health and Human Services tightened that provision, so that "if any part of a policy was significantly changed since that date -- the deductible, co-pay, or benefits, for example -- the policy would not be grandfathered," NBC News reports.

Because the market for individual insurance experiences significant turnover, the insinuation is the Obama administration had to have known many policies "grandfathered" in would not qualify for the ACA. NBC News claims that the administration knew in 2010 that "more than 40 to 67 percent of those in the individual market would not be able to keep their plans, even if they liked them."

“This says that when they made the promise [that individuals could keep their plans], they knew half the people in this market outright couldn’t keep what they had and then they wrote the rules so that others couldn’t make it either,” Robert Laszewski of Health Policy and Strategy Associates told NBC News.

Monday, former Obama adviser David Axelrod said on MSNBC's Morning Joe that "most people are going to keep their own plan." When asked about Axelrod's admission of "most" as opposed to all, White House spokesman Jay Carney acknowledge that some individual's plans will be cancelled, but countered that the plans they switch to will be better and affordable.

"What the president said and what everybody said all along is that there are going to be changes brought about by the Affordable Care Act to create minimum standards of coverage," Carney said. "… So it's true that there are existing health-care plans on the individual market that don't meet those minimum standards and therefore do not qualify for the Affordable Care Act."

Actually, what the President said back in 2009 was "[the Affordable Care Act] is for people who aren’t happy with their current plan. If you like what you’re getting, keep it. Nobody is forcing you to shift."

Only now, some who like their plans are being forced, including Laszewski. According to NBC News, he has a so-called "Cadillac plan" – "the best health insurance policy you can buy," he said – but recently received notice in the mail that it was being cancelled."

Thats why he is the King A$$hole of all time

-Geaux

 

[Geaux4it]

The medical coverage should have been better at their place of employment.

Says who?

-Geaux

 

[ScienceRocks]

I heard it is because of some of the insurance doesn't meet the standards. So pretty much they're dropped and forced to go over to Obamacare.

 

[Geaux4it]

I heard it is because of some of the insurance doesn't meet the standards. So pretty much they're dropped and forced to go over to Obamacare.

Standards like forcing a 62 year old woman to pay for pregnancy insurance?

-Geaux

 

[RandallFlagg]

No lie, just the rational human's inability to foresee mindless Pub, and insurers', dishonesty and obstruction...

I'm not really sure why I'm asking....but why do you think NBC News is lying about the President? Any theories?

Because he has to. Barry was well aware of this (actually) 3 years before this crap began and he continually lied about it to the American people.

This is the state of the the communist left. Do, or say anything to destroy this country.

Congratulations to the left. They are well on their way.

 

[Sarah G]

I heard it is because of some of the insurance doesn't meet the standards. So pretty much they're dropped and forced to go over to Obamacare.

Yes, the cheap insurance is junk insurance, they don't cover people and the costs can be very high if they have to go to the hospital.

The very high cost insurance isn't taking subsidies that you are allowed into consideration.

Here is a link to a good consumer website. Fill in the form, they don't ask for personal info but will help answer questions for your own situation.

Health Law Helper ? Affordable Care Act Interactive Tool

 

[RandallFlagg]

Its a work up to single payer. Thats it in a nutshell.

How any moron would want the Govt in charge of HC in this country is beyond me.

The Govt that has never run anything cheaply or well.

The Govt that turns into reams of red tape, paperwork and waits running HC for 300 million Americans?

Talk about a fucking trainwreck.

Indeed. This will lead up to socialist single payer.

 

[Geaux4it]

No lie, just the rational human's inability to foresee mindless Pub, and insurers', dishonesty and obstruction...

I'm not really sure why I'm asking....but why do you think NBC News is lying about the President? Any theories?

Because he has to. Barry was well aware of this (actually) 3 years before this crap began and he continually lied about it to the American people.

This is the state of the the communist left. Do, or say anything to destroy this country.

Congratulations to the left. They are well on their way.

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[Sarah G]

Research it for yourself above all. It's not ok to just say no, you're not buying it, ACA isn't going anywhere no matter how much it makes Cons/Teapartiers howl.

 

[Geaux4it]

Research it for yourself above all. It's not ok to just say no, you're not buying it, ACA isn't going anywhere no matter how much it makes Cons/Teapartiers howl.

It will fail just like it is now, and just like Obama's Presidency.

His legacy will be how he personally redefined the word

FAIL

They will add his picture in Webster

Sweet

-Geaux

 

[Sarah G]

I'd say the Republican House has failed in the eyes of the American people. They are so low in the polls, they may not be seen again despite the Gerrymandering.

 

[Geaux4it]

I'd say the Republican House has failed in the eyes of the American people. They are so low in the polls, they may not be seen again despite the Gerrymandering.

But with every day the people are realizing that Obama is worthless, just like his socialist healthcare Fubar. Stand -by, good times ahead as the people set their phones down for a minute and look up, King Odummer is toast..... What a loser

-Geaux

 

[RandallFlagg]

Research it for yourself above all. It's not ok to just say no, you're not buying it, ACA isn't going anywhere no matter how much it makes Cons/Teapartiers howl.

It will fail just like it is now, and just like Obama's Presidency.

His legacy will be how he personally redefined the word

FAIL

They will add his picture in Webster

Sweet

-Geaux

Unfortunately, I have to disagree here. It will NOT fail. It will sputter and stumble along, robbing Americans of their healthcare until it is finally scrapped for a single payer system. That is why there is such immediacy to this process. To get as many Americans signed up and paying for this worthless product. Once done, it will be nearly impossible to do away with this nonsense that 90% of America despises.

The only silver lining here is that the dems have cut their own collective throats and WILL be tossed out on their asses soon. Americans, while apathetic as hell, see what is going on and they don't like it.

The republicans keep the House and will take the Senate. Take that to the bank.

 

[Sarah G]

I'd say the Republican House has failed in the eyes of the American people. They are so low in the polls, they may not be seen again despite the Gerrymandering.

But with every day the people are realizing that Obama is worthless, just like his socialist healthcare Fubar. Stand -by, good times ahead as the people set their phones down for a minute and look up, King Odummer is toast..... What a loser

-Geaux

No. What they're seeing is you Teapartiers/Cons resisting and lying about ACA. You, as usual, continue to whine and attempt to make America see things your way but they won't.

Again.

 

[S.J.]

When your opponent is committing suicide, get out of the way. So far, the only people signing up for it are the ones who will be subsidized. Medicare, Medicaid, low income, etc. The ones who they're relying on financing it (young and healthy) aren't signing up. Big problem for Obama. Let it go through and we can all sit back and watch it collapse. This belongs to the Democrats now 100%, and when people start getting fined and coerced into buying this crap, the proverbial shit is gonna hit the proverbial fan.

 

[S.J.]

I'd say the Republican House has failed in the eyes of the American people. They are so low in the polls, they may not be seen again despite the Gerrymandering.

But with every day the people are realizing that Obama is worthless, just like his socialist healthcare Fubar. Stand -by, good times ahead as the people set their phones down for a minute and look up, King Odummer is toast..... What a loser

-Geaux

No. What they're seeing is you Teapartiers/Cons resisting and lying about ACA. You, as usual, continue to whine and attempt to make America see things your way but they won't.

Again.

Yeah, so far it's working great, huh?

 

[Sarah G]

But with every day the people are realizing that Obama is worthless, just like his socialist healthcare Fubar. Stand -by, good times ahead as the people set their phones down for a minute and look up, King Odummer is toast..... What a loser

-Geaux

No. What they're seeing is you Teapartiers/Cons resisting and lying about ACA. You, as usual, continue to whine and attempt to make America see things your way but they won't.

Again.

Yeah, so far it's working great, huh?

You see this as working out great for you? Go figure.