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[Wry Catcher]

Capped and trimmed, not "eliminated forever" improve the honesty of your posts. Yes tax and spend blue states will suffer, as they should.

True, capped and trimmed - BFD: A distinction without a difference.

Why should a blue state suffer?

Exactly!

The Blue states already pay more in than they receive back even with the State tax deduction. The Republicans want the Blue states to be double taxed on the same money to help pay for tax cuts on the wealthy and corps.

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

What about military spending, or ACE spending?

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed.

I come from a "blue state". and what I hope is my rates go down, and combined with the larger standard deduction I come out ahead.

The only people really impacted at really rich blue Staters, and aren't they the ones who always say they are willing to pay more?

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

Please note where NY and CA rank.

View attachment 158179

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed

You mean to say the responsible states who tax accordingly to support their own programs rather than relying on federal aid.

Thank you!

 

[martybegan]

Capped and trimmed, not "eliminated forever" improve the honesty of your posts. Yes tax and spend blue states will suffer, as they should.

True, capped and trimmed - BFD: A distinction without a difference.

Why should a blue state suffer?

Exactly!

The Blue states already pay more in than they receive back even with the State tax deduction. The Republicans want the Blue states to be double taxed on the same money to help pay for tax cuts on the wealthy and corps.

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

What about military spending, or ACE spending?

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed.

I come from a "blue state". and what I hope is my rates go down, and combined with the larger standard deduction I come out ahead.

The only people really impacted at really rich blue Staters, and aren't they the ones who always say they are willing to pay more?

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

Please note where NY and CA rank.

View attachment 158179

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed

You mean to say the responsible states who tax accordingly to support their own programs rather than relying on federal aid.

where is the chart from? what is the math behind it?

Without a link all you did was post a bunch of blue lines.

No, the States that have been not funding their future liabilities and punting massive retirement costs on their recently born children.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Capped and trimmed, not "eliminated forever" improve the honesty of your posts. Yes tax and spend blue states will suffer, as they should.

So taxes for most middle class workers will go up because of the capping of these deductions. BTW - it's those blue states that make it possible for the red states to use welfare to pay for artificially low rates. Without the welfare block grant, provided by revenue from maker states, Conservatives would have to raise taxes in red states because the welfare they used to pay for the tax cuts goes away. Then there's absolutely no reason at all for anyone to live in those states.

Pull the liberal talking points IV from your arm and join us in the real world. Blue states are corrupt, that's why taxes are sky high in those states. So clean up your mess in blue states or suffer its up to you.

fuck em i say

they have it coming

You too are an asshole, non dare call you a patriot.

 

[martybegan]

Capped and trimmed, not "eliminated forever" improve the honesty of your posts. Yes tax and spend blue states will suffer, as they should.

True, capped and trimmed - BFD: A distinction without a difference.

Why should a blue state suffer?

Exactly!

The Blue states already pay more in than they receive back even with the State tax deduction. The Republicans want the Blue states to be double taxed on the same money to help pay for tax cuts on the wealthy and corps.

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

What about military spending, or ACE spending?

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed.

I come from a "blue state". and what I hope is my rates go down, and combined with the larger standard deduction I come out ahead.

The only people really impacted at really rich blue Staters, and aren't they the ones who always say they are willing to pay more?

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

Please note where NY and CA rank.

View attachment 158179

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed

You mean to say the responsible states who tax accordingly to support their own programs rather than relying on federal aid.

Thank you!

for what? an unsourced, un annotated graph of blue lines?

 

[easyt65]

But worry not, Ryan is telling you what you want to hear, so believe him if you want, Just remember, don't bend over.

Politicians, especially Democrats, have been telling Americans what they want to hear for years:
- I did not have sex with that woman.
- It won't cost a dime.
- It will pay for itself.
- If you like your plan / doctor you can keep plan / doctor
- Hi, I'm from the govt, and I'm here to help

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Capped and trimmed, not "eliminated forever" improve the honesty of your posts. Yes tax and spend blue states will suffer, as they should.

True, capped and trimmed - BFD: A distinction without a difference.

Why should a blue state suffer?

Exactly!

The Blue states already pay more in than they receive back even with the State tax deduction. The Republicans want the Blue states to be double taxed on the same money to help pay for tax cuts on the wealthy and corps.

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

What about military spending, or ACE spending?

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed.

I come from a "blue state". and what I hope is my rates go down, and combined with the larger standard deduction I come out ahead.

The only people really impacted at really rich blue Staters, and aren't they the ones who always say they are willing to pay more?

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

Please note where NY and CA rank.

View attachment 158179

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed

You mean to say the responsible states who tax accordingly to support their own programs rather than relying on federal aid.

where is the chart from? what is the math behind it?

Without a link all you did was post a bunch of blue lines.

No, the States that have been not funding their future liabilities and punting massive retirement costs on their recently born children.

The chart simply shows what states receive in federal funding versus what they pay in.

This plan will only further increase the inequity already seen. States like CA and NY will be paying in far more after the state tax deduction is eliminated. For what? To increase revenues to help offset cuts.

 

[martybegan]

True, capped and trimmed - BFD: A distinction without a difference.

Why should a blue state suffer?

Exactly!

The Blue states already pay more in than they receive back even with the State tax deduction. The Republicans want the Blue states to be double taxed on the same money to help pay for tax cuts on the wealthy and corps.

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

What about military spending, or ACE spending?

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed.

I come from a "blue state". and what I hope is my rates go down, and combined with the larger standard deduction I come out ahead.

The only people really impacted at really rich blue Staters, and aren't they the ones who always say they are willing to pay more?

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

Please note where NY and CA rank.

View attachment 158179

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed

You mean to say the responsible states who tax accordingly to support their own programs rather than relying on federal aid.

where is the chart from? what is the math behind it?

Without a link all you did was post a bunch of blue lines.

No, the States that have been not funding their future liabilities and punting massive retirement costs on their recently born children.

The chart simply shows what states receive in federal funding versus what they pay in.

This plan will only further increase the inequity already seen. States like CA and NY will be paying in far more after the state tax deduction is eliminated. For what? To increase revenues to offset cuts.

No, it shows blue lines. No source, no date, not even a link ON the chart to show where the original chart came from.

The only thing shown is South Carolina has the biggest blue line.
That's it.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

True, capped and trimmed - BFD: A distinction without a difference.

Why should a blue state suffer?

Exactly!

The Blue states already pay more in than they receive back even with the State tax deduction. The Republicans want the Blue states to be double taxed on the same money to help pay for tax cuts on the wealthy and corps.

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

What about military spending, or ACE spending?

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed.

I come from a "blue state". and what I hope is my rates go down, and combined with the larger standard deduction I come out ahead.

The only people really impacted at really rich blue Staters, and aren't they the ones who always say they are willing to pay more?

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

Please note where NY and CA rank.

View attachment 158179

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed

You mean to say the responsible states who tax accordingly to support their own programs rather than relying on federal aid.

Thank you!

for what? an unsourced, un annotated graph of blue lines?

You're free to post your own and explain why mine is wrong.

 

[martybegan]

Exactly!

The Blue states already pay more in than they receive back even with the State tax deduction. The Republicans want the Blue states to be double taxed on the same money to help pay for tax cuts on the wealthy and corps.

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

What about military spending, or ACE spending?

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed.

I come from a "blue state". and what I hope is my rates go down, and combined with the larger standard deduction I come out ahead.

The only people really impacted at really rich blue Staters, and aren't they the ones who always say they are willing to pay more?

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

Please note where NY and CA rank.

View attachment 158179

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed

You mean to say the responsible states who tax accordingly to support their own programs rather than relying on federal aid.

Thank you!

for what? an unsourced, un annotated graph of blue lines?

You're free to post your own and explain why mine is wrong.

it' isn't anything. It's a chart of blue lines with no source.

I can post a picture of a kitten in a box and it has the same credibility.

In fact...

 

[jc456]

Listen actively, and put your biases aside. Just be careful and don't bend over for the biggest screwing We the People will have ever experienced, and how the corporate globalists and power elite will receive the largest fiscal benefit in our nation's history.

Remember, the R's promise this reform will put $1,100 dollars in your pocket - Wow - but neglect to explain you costs will go up when the Mortgage Deduction, the taxes you paid for state and local and special districts are eliminated forever. Listen carefully if what you think this is too good to be true, your are correct. Ryan is currently lying to you.

But worry not, Ryan is telling you what you want to hear, so believe him if you want, Just remember, don't bend over.

Conservatives sold their souls to Trump and Russia in order to get their budget-busting, deficit-financed, tax cutting schemes put into law. Conservatives do not care about this country.

huh?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Exactly!

The Blue states already pay more in than they receive back even with the State tax deduction. The Republicans want the Blue states to be double taxed on the same money to help pay for tax cuts on the wealthy and corps.

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

What about military spending, or ACE spending?

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed.

I come from a "blue state". and what I hope is my rates go down, and combined with the larger standard deduction I come out ahead.

The only people really impacted at really rich blue Staters, and aren't they the ones who always say they are willing to pay more?

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

Please note where NY and CA rank.

View attachment 158179

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed

You mean to say the responsible states who tax accordingly to support their own programs rather than relying on federal aid.

where is the chart from? what is the math behind it?

Without a link all you did was post a bunch of blue lines.

No, the States that have been not funding their future liabilities and punting massive retirement costs on their recently born children.

The chart simply shows what states receive in federal funding versus what they pay in.

This plan will only further increase the inequity already seen. States like CA and NY will be paying in far more after the state tax deduction is eliminated. For what? To increase revenues to offset cuts.

No, it shows blue lines. No source, no date, not even a link ON the chart to show where the original chart came from.

The only thing shown is South Carolina has the biggest blue line.
That's it.

Of course you're being dishonest.

It says across the top that it represents states return on investment. Meaning what they get back versus what they pay in. CA and NY get less than a dollar back for every dollar paid in even with the State tax deduction.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

What about military spending, or ACE spending?

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed.

I come from a "blue state". and what I hope is my rates go down, and combined with the larger standard deduction I come out ahead.

The only people really impacted at really rich blue Staters, and aren't they the ones who always say they are willing to pay more?

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

Please note where NY and CA rank.

View attachment 158179

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed

You mean to say the responsible states who tax accordingly to support their own programs rather than relying on federal aid.

Thank you!

for what? an unsourced, un annotated graph of blue lines?

You're free to post your own and explain why mine is wrong.

it' isn't anything. It's a chart of blue lines with no source.

I can post a picture of a kitten in a box and it has the same credibility.

In fact...

No, it represents exactly what I explained it represents. You can either post your own data and explain why I was wrong or play dumb and post cat pics.

 

[martybegan]

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

What about military spending, or ACE spending?

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed.

I come from a "blue state". and what I hope is my rates go down, and combined with the larger standard deduction I come out ahead.

The only people really impacted at really rich blue Staters, and aren't they the ones who always say they are willing to pay more?

What is the exact breakdown? How much of that spending is due to so much federal land in those "Red" States?

Please note where NY and CA rank.

View attachment 158179

Or maybe the blue states can learn to live within their means without the bloated government structures they have to feed

You mean to say the responsible states who tax accordingly to support their own programs rather than relying on federal aid.

where is the chart from? what is the math behind it?

Without a link all you did was post a bunch of blue lines.

No, the States that have been not funding their future liabilities and punting massive retirement costs on their recently born children.

The chart simply shows what states receive in federal funding versus what they pay in.

This plan will only further increase the inequity already seen. States like CA and NY will be paying in far more after the state tax deduction is eliminated. For what? To increase revenues to offset cuts.

No, it shows blue lines. No source, no date, not even a link ON the chart to show where the original chart came from.

The only thing shown is South Carolina has the biggest blue line.
That's it.

Of course you're being dishonest.

It says across the top that it represents states return on investment. Meaning what they get back versus what they pay in. CA and NY get less than a dollar back for every dollar paid in even with the State tax deduction.

it can say whatever it wants, but where did the data come from? Or at a minimum who made the chart?

Why can't you answer those very simple questions?

Is it because you saw something that agreed with your proposed narrative, presented it, and now only realize it has no information as to the source of the presentation?

 

[martybegan]

Please note where NY and CA rank.

View attachment 158179

You mean to say the responsible states who tax accordingly to support their own programs rather than relying on federal aid.

Thank you!

for what? an unsourced, un annotated graph of blue lines?

You're free to post your own and explain why mine is wrong.

it' isn't anything. It's a chart of blue lines with no source.

I can post a picture of a kitten in a box and it has the same credibility.

In fact...

No, it represents exactly what I explained it represents. You can either post your own data and explain why I was wrong or play dumb and post cat pics.

it represents blue lines showing some undefined value with no support.

You are making excuses, not explaining. Simply link where you got the graph from.

 

[Kosh]

Listen actively, and put your biases aside. Just be careful and don't bend over for the biggest screwing We the People will have ever experienced, and how the corporate globalists and power elite will receive the largest fiscal benefit in our nation's history.

Remember, the R's promise this reform will put $1,100 dollars in your pocket - Wow - but neglect to explain you costs will go up when the Mortgage Deduction, the taxes you paid for state and local and special districts are eliminated forever. Listen carefully if what you think this is too good to be true, your are correct. Ryan is currently lying to you.

But worry not, Ryan is telling you what you want to hear, so believe him if you want, Just remember, don't bend over.

You far left drones can always pay more than into the system, please come back and let us all know that you will not participate in paying lower taxes

Even the far left Washington post is calling your far left dogma not connected to reality:

Analysis | Senate Democrats falsely claim GOP tax plan will raise taxes for most working-class families

 

[jc456]

Listen actively, and put your biases aside. Just be careful and don't bend over for the biggest screwing We the People will have ever experienced, and how the corporate globalists and power elite will receive the largest fiscal benefit in our nation's history.

Remember, the R's promise this reform will put $1,100 dollars in your pocket - Wow - but neglect to explain you costs will go up when the Mortgage Deduction, the taxes you paid for state and local and special districts are eliminated forever. Listen carefully if what you think this is too good to be true, your are correct. Ryan is currently lying to you.

But worry not, Ryan is telling you what you want to hear, so believe him if you want, Just remember, don't bend over.

You far left drones can always pay more than into the system, please come back and let us all know that you will not participate in paying lower taxes

Even the far left Washington post is calling your far left dogma not connect5ed to reality:

Analysis | Senate Democrats falsely claim GOP tax plan will raise taxes for most working-class families

dude right? these fks and their moral equivalencies. It isn't logical that someone would poopoo a tax cut. sorry, it just isn't logical. so what they're really saying to americans is that trump shouldn't do that cause it will convince you to vote for him due to his success at bringing down your tax burdens.

They can't allow success. battle till you die.

 

[BluesLegend]

Capped and trimmed, not "eliminated forever" improve the honesty of your posts. Yes tax and spend blue states will suffer, as they should.

True, capped and trimmed - BFD: A distinction without a difference.

Why should a blue state suffer?

Exactly!

The Blue states already pay more in than they receive back even with the State tax deduction. The Republicans want the Blue states to be double taxed on the same money to help pay for tax cuts on the wealthy and corps.

^^^ debunked talking point alert. I guess on the bright side after this tax reform bill blue states will pay more for real.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Please note where NY and CA rank.

View attachment 158179

You mean to say the responsible states who tax accordingly to support their own programs rather than relying on federal aid.

where is the chart from? what is the math behind it?

Without a link all you did was post a bunch of blue lines.

No, the States that have been not funding their future liabilities and punting massive retirement costs on their recently born children.

The chart simply shows what states receive in federal funding versus what they pay in.

This plan will only further increase the inequity already seen. States like CA and NY will be paying in far more after the state tax deduction is eliminated. For what? To increase revenues to offset cuts.

No, it shows blue lines. No source, no date, not even a link ON the chart to show where the original chart came from.

The only thing shown is South Carolina has the biggest blue line.
That's it.

Of course you're being dishonest.

It says across the top that it represents states return on investment. Meaning what they get back versus what they pay in. CA and NY get less than a dollar back for every dollar paid in even with the State tax deduction.

it can say whatever it wants, but where did the data come from? Or at a minimum who made the chart?

Why can't you answer those very simple questions?

Is it because you saw something that agreed with your proposed narrative, presented it, and now only realize it has no information as to the source of the presentation?

Where it comes from is irrelevant. If you don't agree with it, post your own data and show us all why it's wrong. I know you won't do that because you know it's correct. Attacking the source is just a tactic of the weak.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Capped and trimmed, not "eliminated forever" improve the honesty of your posts. Yes tax and spend blue states will suffer, as they should.

True, capped and trimmed - BFD: A distinction without a difference.

Why should a blue state suffer?

Exactly!

The Blue states already pay more in than they receive back even with the State tax deduction. The Republicans want the Blue states to be double taxed on the same money to help pay for tax cuts on the wealthy and corps.

^^^ debunked talking point alert. I guess on the bright side after this tax reform bill blue states will pay more for real.

Debunk it then. Show us the data.

 

[BluesLegend]

Capped and trimmed, not "eliminated forever" improve the honesty of your posts. Yes tax and spend blue states will suffer, as they should.

True, capped and trimmed - BFD: A distinction without a difference.

Why should a blue state suffer?

Exactly!

The Blue states already pay more in than they receive back even with the State tax deduction. The Republicans want the Blue states to be double taxed on the same money to help pay for tax cuts on the wealthy and corps.

^^^ debunked talking point alert. I guess on the bright side after this tax reform bill blue states will pay more for real.

Debunk it then. Show us the data.

Lib please talk to the hand