Republican or Democrat?

[Two Thumbs]

obama is a prog, far worse than liberals

far more ruthless and freedom hating

 

[Pogo]

lame

name a liberal that is not a democrat

and take your time. I'm certain it hard to sharpen an ax to the point you can split hairs with it.

Me.

Look dood, you posed the question and claimed it to be serious, not a punch line, and now you can't handle the answer.
As I said, too deep.

really? neat

You're a liberal non-dem. are you in any party then?

No. The only reason I could think of to join a political party would be if I lived in an area where that was necessary to have a say in local affairs, like voting in primaries. But that's not the case, so I've never done it.

Anyway your question was "what's a Liberal that's not a Democrat". Et voilà.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

Speaking of definitions pulled out of one's ass....

Easily provable; demonstrated repeatedly.

Easily DISprovable, to wit:
Nothing about the definition of "liberal" --- or any other political persuasion ever known --- has anything to do with "believing what their own eyes tell them". I mean Duh.

And for a bonus track, O'bama ain't no Liberal. He might disagree with that bogus conclusion, but for the same apolitical reason anyone would --- because it's bogus.

Obama has shown that cutting taxes raises revenue; he has simply *stated* otherwise to his base. His base, liberals like you and RW believe what Obama tells them instead of what he has shown them. Again, easily provable.

 

[Pogo]

Easily provable; demonstrated repeatedly.

Easily DISprovable, to wit:
Nothing about the definition of "liberal" --- or any other political persuasion ever known --- has anything to do with "believing what their own eyes tell them". I mean Duh.

And for a bonus track, O'bama ain't no Liberal. He might disagree with that bogus conclusion, but for the same apolitical reason anyone would --- because it's bogus.

Obama has shown that cutting taxes raises revenue; he has simply *stated* otherwise to his base. His base, liberals like you and RW believe what Obama tells them instead of what he has shown them. Again, easily provable.

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[Dirk the Daring]

Easily DISprovable, to wit:
Nothing about the definition of "liberal" --- or any other political persuasion ever known --- has anything to do with "believing what their own eyes tell them". I mean Duh.

And for a bonus track, O'bama ain't no Liberal. He might disagree with that bogus conclusion, but for the same apolitical reason anyone would --- because it's bogus.

Obama has shown that cutting taxes raises revenue; he has simply *stated* otherwise to his base. His base, liberals like you and RW believe what Obama tells them instead of what he has shown them. Again, easily provable.

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I completely agree, you have absolutely no grasp of what I'm trying to explain. That, or, you're actually engaging in a charade in order to prove my point to the rest of the board - in which case, I thank you. You're doing such a fine job in fact, that I'm wondering if we should take this act on the road? I could be the lovable entertainer attempting to explain how the world really works to a half-wit, and you could simply be yourself...

 

[Flopper]

So, you are down to complaining about a few counties in a few states.

This arises out of a tolerant concept called "local rule"...which was an integral part of the administration of the union as conceived by the founding fathers....one that has been mostly stolen away by Big Brother Federal Government which has used bribes to insinuate itself into State and Local Government to the point that it virtually tells you when to go shit.

Whether he knows it or not, Nanny Bloomberg is just doing what Puritans in New England have always done---tell people what to do.

If you are a homosexual in San Francisco, why should you be telling someone in some county in Arkansas what they should do about Civil Union Certificates?

Just don't go there.

It goes back to the original post. Liberals are traditionally intolerant..and its really worse than that.

Their arrogance convinces them that they are both right and righteous...and so they find themselves justified in whatever means accomplish the end...and this makes them capable of lying without shame.

It is the Progressive/Marxist way.

Your definition of a few counties in a few states is over a hundred counties in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia, all red states with counties that prohibit the sale of alcohol. And you call this tolerance.

The Red states are so tolerant toward gays that most of them have banned gay marriage in their constitution and unlike most blue states, not a single red state overturned their anti-gay sodomy laws. The only reason gays aren't arrested for having sex today in red states, is the Supreme Court overturned their sodomy laws. And this is what you call tolerance.

And when it comes to religious freedom, 7 states ban atheist from serving in the public office, all red states.

 

[Pogo]

Obama has shown that cutting taxes raises revenue; he has simply *stated* otherwise to his base. His base, liberals like you and RW believe what Obama tells them instead of what he has shown them. Again, easily provable.

::::::: wwwwhhhhoooooooossssshhhhh ::::::::

I completely agree, you have absolutely no grasp of what I'm trying to explain. That, or, you're actually engaging in a charade in order to prove my point to the rest of the board - in which case, I thank you. You're doing such a fine job in fact, that I'm wondering if we should take this act on the road? I could be the lovable entertainer attempting to explain how the world really works to a half-wit, and you could simply be yourself...

Try going back and actually reading the thread.

Dumbass.

 

[Pogo]

So, you are down to complaining about a few counties in a few states.

This arises out of a tolerant concept called "local rule"...which was an integral part of the administration of the union as conceived by the founding fathers....one that has been mostly stolen away by Big Brother Federal Government which has used bribes to insinuate itself into State and Local Government to the point that it virtually tells you when to go shit.

Whether he knows it or not, Nanny Bloomberg is just doing what Puritans in New England have always done---tell people what to do.

If you are a homosexual in San Francisco, why should you be telling someone in some county in Arkansas what they should do about Civil Union Certificates?

Just don't go there.

It goes back to the original post. Liberals are traditionally intolerant..and its really worse than that.

Their arrogance convinces them that they are both right and righteous...and so they find themselves justified in whatever means accomplish the end...and this makes them capable of lying without shame.

It is the Progressive/Marxist way.

Your definition of a few counties in a few states is over a hundred counties in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia, all red states with counties that prohibit the sale of alcohol. And you call this tolerance.

The Red states are so tolerant toward gays that most of them have banned gay marriage in their constitution and unlike most blue states, not a single red state overturned their anti-gay sodomy laws. The only reason gays aren't arrested for having sex today in red states, is the Supreme Court overturned their sodomy laws. And this is what you call tolerance.

And when it comes to religious freedom, 7 states ban atheist from serving in the public office, all red states.

Wow, that's a stunner.
I had to look this up -- sure enough:

>> The constitutions of these seven US states ban atheists from holding public office:

Arkansas:
"No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court."[80]

Maryland:
"That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other oath of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution.”[81]

Mississippi:
"No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this state."[82]

North Carolina:
"The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God."[83]

South Carolina:
"No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution."[84]

Tennessee:
"No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state."[85]

Texas:
"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."[86]

An eighth state constitution discriminates against atheists by affording special protection to theists only.

Pennsylvania:
"No person who acknowledges the being of a God and a future state of rewards and punishments shall, on account of his religious sentiments, be disqualified to hold any office or place of trust or profit under this Commonwealth."[87] << (Wiki)

Just wow.
Uh, Happy Ramadan, seven/eight states.

 

[DiamondDave]

Republicans would rather shut the country down than help the American people

And you would rather force people to help your causes before taking your feelings of charity upon yourself

 

[RetiredGySgt]

As for Clinton his supposed "savings" budget was passed not in 93 but after the republicans took over Congress and forced him to be reasonable.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

::::::: wwwwhhhhoooooooossssshhhhh ::::::::

I completely agree, you have absolutely no grasp of what I'm trying to explain. That, or, you're actually engaging in a charade in order to prove my point to the rest of the board - in which case, I thank you. You're doing such a fine job in fact, that I'm wondering if we should take this act on the road? I could be the lovable entertainer attempting to explain how the world really works to a half-wit, and you could simply be yourself...

Try going back and actually reading the thread.

Dumbass.

Hmm, that is quite the offer.... No. Let's progress this conversation further. At the federal level, do you believe what Obama has said - that tax cuts hurt federal tax revenues or do you believe what he has shown - that tax cuts grow federal tax revenues. Simple question...

 

[Pogo]

I completely agree, you have absolutely no grasp of what I'm trying to explain. That, or, you're actually engaging in a charade in order to prove my point to the rest of the board - in which case, I thank you. You're doing such a fine job in fact, that I'm wondering if we should take this act on the road? I could be the lovable entertainer attempting to explain how the world really works to a half-wit, and you could simply be yourself...

Try going back and actually reading the thread.

Dumbass.

Hmm, that is quite the offer.... No. Let's progress this conversation further. At the federal level, do you believe what Obama has said - that tax cuts hurt federal tax revenues or do you believe what he has shown - that tax cuts grow federal tax revenues. Simple question...

"Simple" understates it.

 

[regent]

You might be a Republican if...
You'll spend $20 billion guarding a bridge against the possibility of a terrorist attack, but won't spend 20 cents to keep it from falling down on its own

....and you might be a Democrat if you think it costs 20 cents to repair a bridge.

Speaking of Democrats and bridge building, how many knew that just one agency, the PWA of FDR's New Deal built 124,000 bridges? Of course that same agency also built 651,000 miles of highway ,8000 parks and rebuilt or built 41,300 schools. Wonder if they knew the price of bridges?

 

[Flopper]

So, you are down to complaining about a few counties in a few states.

This arises out of a tolerant concept called "local rule"...which was an integral part of the administration of the union as conceived by the founding fathers....one that has been mostly stolen away by Big Brother Federal Government which has used bribes to insinuate itself into State and Local Government to the point that it virtually tells you when to go shit.

Whether he knows it or not, Nanny Bloomberg is just doing what Puritans in New England have always done---tell people what to do.

If you are a homosexual in San Francisco, why should you be telling someone in some county in Arkansas what they should do about Civil Union Certificates?

Just don't go there.

It goes back to the original post. Liberals are traditionally intolerant..and its really worse than that.

Their arrogance convinces them that they are both right and righteous...and so they find themselves justified in whatever means accomplish the end...and this makes them capable of lying without shame.

It is the Progressive/Marxist way.

Your definition of a few counties in a few states is over a hundred counties in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia, all red states with counties that prohibit the sale of alcohol. And you call this tolerance.

The Red states are so tolerant toward gays that most of them have banned gay marriage in their constitution and unlike most blue states, not a single red state overturned their anti-gay sodomy laws. The only reason gays aren't arrested for having sex today in red states, is the Supreme Court overturned their sodomy laws. And this is what you call tolerance.

And when it comes to religious freedom, 7 states ban atheist from serving in the public office, all red states.

Wow, that's a stunner.
I had to look this up -- sure enough:

>> The constitutions of these seven US states ban atheists from holding public office:

Arkansas:
"No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court."[80]

Maryland:
"That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other oath of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution.”[81]

Mississippi:
"No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this state."[82]

North Carolina:
"The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God."[83]

South Carolina:
"No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution."[84]

Tennessee:
"No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state."[85]

Texas:
"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."[86]

An eighth state constitution discriminates against atheists by affording special protection to theists only.

Pennsylvania:
"No person who acknowledges the being of a God and a future state of rewards and punishments shall, on account of his religious sentiments, be disqualified to hold any office or place of trust or profit under this Commonwealth."[87] << (Wiki)

Just wow.
Uh, Happy Ramadan, seven/eight states.

Although I think the GOP has cultivate a lot of intolerance toward gays, the poor on welfare, and undocumented immigrants to appeal to the the far right, the truth is both parties do whatever is needed to gain the most support regardless of where it comes from.

The vast majority of Americans are intolerant toward some group(s), blacks, gays, undocumented immigrants, Muslims, Jews, Christians, Atheist, the rich, the poor, intellectuals, capitalist, socialist, foreigners, unions, rednecks, government workers, etc... However, as a nation I think the American people are much more tolerant than the world gives us credit. Unlike a lot of nations, we say what we think no matter how biased or uninformed. We take our freedom of speech seriously to say whatever we think. This should be obvious to any USMB member.

 

[Flopper]

You might be a Republican if...
You'll spend $20 billion guarding a bridge against the possibility of a terrorist attack, but won't spend 20 cents to keep it from falling down on its own

....and you might be a Democrat if you think it costs 20 cents to repair a bridge.

Speaking of Democrats and bridge building, how many knew that just one agency, the PWA of FDR's New Deal built 124,000 bridges? Of course that same agency also built 651,000 miles of highway ,8000 parks and rebuilt or built 41,300 schools. Wonder if they knew the price of bridges?

Public works projects are build based on the needs of the people without regard to revenue that might be created by the project. The private sector rarely has any interest in financing these projects because they see not way to make a profit consistent with the risks. Projects such as Hoover Damn that the private sector had no interest in financing profoundly impacted the growth and prosperity of the American Southwest It was obviously a success story but we also have the bridges to nowhere and other boondoggles. What is often forgotten is the millions of workers that got not just a paycheck but gained skills that prepared them for jobs in the private sector.

 

[rightwinger]

A Democrat, a Liberal and a Republican are sitting in a bar reminiscing about home.

"Back in my bar back home,brags the Democrat, "for every four drinks I order, they give me one for free!"

"In my bar back home" says the Liberal,"I pay for two drinks and they give me a third one free!"

"That's nuthin'" says the Republican "In my bar back home, you walk up to the bar, they give the first drink fer free, the second drink fer free, the third drink fer free -- and then they take you upstairs and you have sex for FREE!"

"Is that true?" asks the Democrat. "Has that really happened to you?"

"Well, no," says the Republican, "but it happens to my sister all the time!"

what's a liberal that isn't a democrat? serious question, not a punchline set up

Ever hear of a blue dog?

 

[Lumpy 1]

A Democrat, a Liberal and a Republican are sitting in a bar reminiscing about home.

"Back in my bar back home,brags the Democrat, "for every four drinks I order, they give me one for free!"

"In my bar back home" says the Liberal,"I pay for two drinks and they give me a third one free!"

"That's nuthin'" says the Republican "In my bar back home, you walk up to the bar, they give the first drink fer free, the second drink fer free, the third drink fer free -- and then they take you upstairs and you have sex for FREE!"

"Is that true?" asks the Democrat. "Has that really happened to you?"

"Well, no," says the Republican, "but it happens to my sister all the time!"

what's a liberal that isn't a democrat? serious question, not a punchline set up

Ever hear of a blue dog?

[ame=http://youtu.be/ZaaT6hQM8L8]Rep. Heath Shuler On Leader Nancy Pelosi's Lack Of Outreach To Blue Dog Dems - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Pogo]

what's a liberal that isn't a democrat? serious question, not a punchline set up

Ever hear of a blue dog?

[ame=http://youtu.be/ZaaT6hQM8L8]Rep. Heath Shuler On Leader Nancy Pelosi's Lack Of Outreach To Blue Dog Dems - YouTube[/ame]

I worked on that guy's campaign. We got him in.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

A Democrat, a Liberal and a Republican are sitting in a bar reminiscing about home.

"Back in my bar back home,brags the Democrat, "for every four drinks I order, they give me one for free!"

"In my bar back home" says the Liberal,"I pay for two drinks and they give me a third one free!"

"That's nuthin'" says the Republican "In my bar back home, you walk up to the bar, they give the first drink fer free, the second drink fer free, the third drink fer free -- and then they take you upstairs and you have sex for FREE!"

"Is that true?" asks the Democrat. "Has that really happened to you?"

"Well, no," says the Republican, "but it happens to my sister all the time!"

what's a liberal that isn't a democrat? serious question, not a punchline set up

Ever hear of a blue dog?

A blue dog democrat is a conservative leaning democrat. This is not what was asked.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

Try going back and actually reading the thread.

Dumbass.

Hmm, that is quite the offer.... No. Let's progress this conversation further. At the federal level, do you believe what Obama has said - that tax cuts hurt federal tax revenues or do you believe what he has shown - that tax cuts grow federal tax revenues. Simple question...

"Simple" understates it.

Hey look, I've gone back and read thru the entire thread, and I'm man enough to say, I'm sorry. We apparently have gotten off on the wrong foot and I would very much like to make amends.

From this point forward, I will try my best to only ask questions I feel you have the ability to answer. So... what is your favorite color? Are you happy or are you sad? What did you eat for dinner tonight?