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I'm waiting for a wingnut to try to debunk this as false, the way that every single anti-Obamacare story has been thoroughly debunked.Nice. Good for them.
. I do realize that by "subsidize" you probably are referring to the use of government funds to offset losses by the insurance companies. I am not certain if that is true or not. However, If only half of the new enrollees are paying premiums averaging 70 bucks a month each, that's no chump change.
"government funds" wtf, are you on drugs? The government doesn't have any "funds", it is taxpayer money that is footing the bill. Anyone getting anything subsidized means someone else is paying for it; anyone who is paying more is paying for it. Period. It's only going to get worse. There is no "probably" about any of that.
Please point to evidence of conservatives going apeshit over taxpayers subsidizing the most profitable company in human history, Exxon/Mobil.
I'm waiting for a wingnut to try to debunk this as false, the way that every single anti-Obamacare story has been thoroughly debunked.Nice. Good for them.
It can be beneficial, but people still want to choose to buy insurance, not be forced by govt.
The policy that I had got cancelled because of Obamcare so yes my premiums and deductibles both rose because of it. If it wasn't law I would have the same insurance policy I had for the past 10 years and was perfectly happy with.
Putting aside your bullshit 3000 figure, your policy wasn't cancelled because of Obamacare.
It was cancelled because your insurance company decided to cancel it instead of modifying it.
We all get statements and notices from banks regularly saying that they are changing their conditions. We get emails saying "eBay is changing their site use terms" and such.
So there was no reason why insurance companies couldn't have just informed you that they have amended your policy so that you are now covered for per-existing conditions, etc.
It was cancelled because the government made up some bullshit minimum coverage mandates.
Show me one, then.I'm waiting for a wingnut to try to debunk this as false, the way that every single anti-Obamacare story has been thoroughly debunked.Nice. Good for them.
You're a liar, and shame on you for quoting the scumbag liar Harry Reid's despicable lies from the Podium of the Senate.
"government funds" wtf, are you on drugs? The government doesn't have any "funds", it is taxpayer money that is footing the bill. Anyone getting anything subsidized means someone else is paying for it; anyone who is paying more is paying for it. Period. It's only going to get worse. There is no "probably" about any of that.
Please point to evidence of conservatives going apeshit over taxpayers subsidizing the most profitable company in human history, Exxon/Mobil.
Subsidizing? Exxon/Mobil gets the same tax incentives as all other corporations, no more, no less. Exxon/Mobil makes less profit than the Government collects in taxes from them. Or, to say it differently, Exxon/Mobil pays over 50% taxes on profits.
Putting aside your bullshit 3000 figure, your policy wasn't cancelled because of Obamacare.
It was cancelled because your insurance company decided to cancel it instead of modifying it.
We all get statements and notices from banks regularly saying that they are changing their conditions. We get emails saying "eBay is changing their site use terms" and such.
So there was no reason why insurance companies couldn't have just informed you that they have amended your policy so that you are now covered for per-existing conditions, etc.
It was cancelled because the government made up some bullshit minimum coverage mandates.
No, it was cancelled because the corporation decided to cancel it instead of modify it.
It's really simple.
Please point to evidence of conservatives going apeshit over taxpayers subsidizing the most profitable company in human history, Exxon/Mobil.
Subsidizing? Exxon/Mobil gets the same tax incentives as all other corporations, no more, no less. Exxon/Mobil makes less profit than the Government collects in taxes from them. Or, to say it differently, Exxon/Mobil pays over 50% taxes on profits.
$7 Billion per year, dope:
America's Most Obvious Tax Reform Idea: Kill the Oil and Gas Subsidies
In a world where $100-a-barrel oil is here to stay, there's no need to pad the industry's bottom line.
Putting aside your bullshit 3000 figure, your policy wasn't cancelled because of Obamacare.
It was cancelled because your insurance company decided to cancel it instead of modifying it.
We all get statements and notices from banks regularly saying that they are changing their conditions. We get emails saying "eBay is changing their site use terms" and such.
So there was no reason why insurance companies couldn't have just informed you that they have amended your policy so that you are now covered for per-existing conditions, etc.
It was cancelled because the government made up some bullshit minimum coverage mandates.
No, it was cancelled because the corporation decided to cancel it instead of modify it.
It's really simple.
You've been properly conditioned.Interesting that you choose to see it that way as opposed to the possibility that he was being way overcharged with COBRA.
Is that because corporations can do no wrong in your eyes?
And where do you get the certainty that he is getting subsidized?
Of course he was being over charged for COBRA. And?
wtf?
"the Richardsons only pay $136 a month for health insurance that covers them both." is cheap cheap, they are being subsidized.
It was cancelled because the government made up some bullshit minimum coverage mandates.
No, it was cancelled because the corporation decided to cancel it instead of modify it.
It's really simple.
My brother had an individual policy from BC. It was fairly minimal, very affordable, covered what he needed (and nothing he didn't need), he has used is a lot in the past ten years including hospitalization.
In order for him to keep that policy no changes of any significance could be made to it and even at that, he would only enjoy that grandfather status for a short period of time. Since obama waved his magic wand, my brother gets to keep his original policy till June at which time it will change to comply with the law. However, his premium has doubled and his deductible nearly doubled because the insurance companies don't base their rates on the waving of magic wands, they were based months and months ago on the (un)aca ... that obama has continuously changed/delayed.
Saying that the insurance companies are the ones responsible for cancelling his (and millions of other) policy(ies) is nothing short of ridiculous. The companies have no choice but to comply with the law that is the (un)aca, so they complied and by doing so the original policies were effectively cancelled. Again, the insurance companies have to comply with the law so existing policies that do not meet the 'standards' of the (un)aca have no place to go but away. Cancelled. They are no more. They have ceased to be. They are an ex-policy!
Spin it seven ways to Tuesday if you'd like but you are wrong. This isn't on the insurance companies it's on the Ds, obama and the ever pesky (un)aca that you guys love so much. You wanted it, you voted for it, you got it. Suck it up, buttercup.
No, it was cancelled because the corporation decided to cancel it instead of modify it.
It's really simple.
My brother had an individual policy from BC. It was fairly minimal, very affordable, covered what he needed (and nothing he didn't need), he has used is a lot in the past ten years including hospitalization.
In order for him to keep that policy no changes of any significance could be made to it and even at that, he would only enjoy that grandfather status for a short period of time. Since obama waved his magic wand, my brother gets to keep his original policy till June at which time it will change to comply with the law. However, his premium has doubled and his deductible nearly doubled because the insurance companies don't base their rates on the waving of magic wands, they were based months and months ago on the (un)aca ... that obama has continuously changed/delayed.
Saying that the insurance companies are the ones responsible for cancelling his (and millions of other) policy(ies) is nothing short of ridiculous. The companies have no choice but to comply with the law that is the (un)aca, so they complied and by doing so the original policies were effectively cancelled. Again, the insurance companies have to comply with the law so existing policies that do not meet the 'standards' of the (un)aca have no place to go but away. Cancelled. They are no more. They have ceased to be. They are an ex-policy!
Spin it seven ways to Tuesday if you'd like but you are wrong. This isn't on the insurance companies it's on the Ds, obama and the ever pesky (un)aca that you guys love so much. You wanted it, you voted for it, you got it. Suck it up, buttercup.
You're actually saying that insurance corporation profits are sacrosanct and cannot be part of the equation.
Unbelievable. Every nutter here is (or intimately knows) someone who had a shit health insurance plan. Uncanny!
No, it was cancelled because the corporation decided to cancel it instead of modify it.
It's really simple.
My brother had an individual policy from BC. It was fairly minimal, very affordable, covered what he needed (and nothing he didn't need), he has used is a lot in the past ten years including hospitalization.
In order for him to keep that policy no changes of any significance could be made to it and even at that, he would only enjoy that grandfather status for a short period of time. Since obama waved his magic wand, my brother gets to keep his original policy till June at which time it will change to comply with the law. However, his premium has doubled and his deductible nearly doubled because the insurance companies don't base their rates on the waving of magic wands, they were based months and months ago on the (un)aca ... that obama has continuously changed/delayed.
Saying that the insurance companies are the ones responsible for cancelling his (and millions of other) policy(ies) is nothing short of ridiculous. The companies have no choice but to comply with the law that is the (un)aca, so they complied and by doing so the original policies were effectively cancelled. Again, the insurance companies have to comply with the law so existing policies that do not meet the 'standards' of the (un)aca have no place to go but away. Cancelled. They are no more. They have ceased to be. They are an ex-policy!
Spin it seven ways to Tuesday if you'd like but you are wrong. This isn't on the insurance companies it's on the Ds, obama and the ever pesky (un)aca that you guys love so much. You wanted it, you voted for it, you got it. Suck it up, buttercup.
You're actually saying that insurance corporation profits are sacrosanct and cannot be part of the equation.
