Republicans are afraid to propose spending cuts!

[bripat9643]

Obama had put on the table $4 of cuts per $1 of new revenue during the debt limit negotiations. That would be a surrender -- thank God and Grover Norquis, the Reps were too stupid, too arrogant and too scared to take it.

None of those "cuts" would happen in Obama's term by design. Fail.

Seriously? That WAS the subject of the negotiations -- cutting the deficits over the next 10 years!

Supposedly. Obama didn't offer to cut anything. He insisted on tax increases, and that was it.

Republicans wanted to achieve that by spending cuts alone -- and they set this as a condition for their agreeing to rise the debt limit.

Yes it was. All they asked for is some kind of reasonable progress to cutting spending. All Obama offered was bullshit. The imaginary "cuts" over 10 years were purely Obama's idea. That's a con that two previous Republican presidents fell for. Why do you imagine Republicans would be stupid enough to fall for it a third time?

If Obama and his advisers were sensible people, they would answer to Republican demands by telling them to go fuck themselves.

They did.

The US don't have short term debt problems -- and long term issues should be tackled only after the depression is over, and mostly by increasing taxes on the rich.

But the Administration believed then that they would score more points by looking for a bipartisan solution, so they started negotiations by proposing a mix of spending cuts and tax increases. That was already a betrayal.

ROFL! They proposed a con, and Republicans failed to take the bait. Where's the "betrayal?

Then Obama went over the heads of the Congress Democrats by proposing that 4 to 1 capitulation. Pelosi and Reid were furious, but in the end they went along.

Again, the "4 to 1 capitulation" was a con. No one was fooled. That's what really chaps your ass.

Fortunately Republicans were hoping to take the White House and the Senate, so they refused.

What was "fortunate" about it, the fact that Obama and the Dims have no intention of cutting anything?

And now they are left with 1 to 4 proposal -- $1 in cuts for $4 in tax increases. Also it is they who's got to detail the cuts. Also the have to agree to automatic debt limit increases.

Sweet!

ROFL! Thanks for confirming that Obama and his fluffers have no intention of cutting anything.

You're delusional if you think Republicans will agree to that.

 

[bripat9643]

Every time, when the budget put to a vote sucks. Thanks for not passing it, Reid & co!

What "sucked" about them, because the Dims wanted twice as much spending?

Don't lie now.

Nope. They wanted to cut only those programs which benefit the middle class, and thus the economy.

According to Dims, they all benefit the middle class, so you just admitted you don't want to cut anything.

 

[Koios]

What "sucked" about them, because the Dims wanted twice as much spending?

Don't lie now.

Nope. They wanted to cut only those programs which benefit the middle class, and thus the economy.

According to Dims, they all benefit the middle class, so you just admitted you don't want to cut anything.

Which ones don't?

 

[bripat9643]

Nope. They wanted to cut only those programs which benefit the middle class, and thus the economy.

According to Dims, they all benefit the middle class, so you just admitted you don't want to cut anything.

Which ones don't?

All of them. But you obviously believe they all benefit the middle class, so you just admitted that you and the other Obama fluffers have no intention of cutting spending.

 

[ilia25]

The entitlements are the problem.

Your ugly face is the problem.

Most social program spending is going to seniors and disabled. Much less money goes to help working poor and people temporary out of job.

Only 1.5% of the US population is on welfare (excluding food stamps and UI), and it costs 131 billion, or just 3.5% of total government spending. And even those people are not sitting idle, as you can earn $1000 per month and still qualify for welfare.
Welfare Statistics | Statistic Brain

So stop lying. Very few Americans choose not to work because they can get by on welfare.

 

[Koios]

According to Dims, they all benefit the middle class, so you just admitted you don't want to cut anything.

Which ones don't?

All of them. But you obviously believe they all benefit the middle class, so you just admitted that you and the other Obama fluffers have no intention of cutting spending.

So military bases do not support base towns? Welfare does not support small businesses in poorer neighborhoods? Medicare does not help folks who work for scooter and medical supply stores?

 

[bripat9643]

Which ones don't?

All of them. But you obviously believe they all benefit the middle class, so you just admitted that you and the other Obama fluffers have no intention of cutting spending.

So military bases do not support base towns? Welfare does not support small businesses in poorer neighborhoods? Medicare does not help folks who work for scooter and medical supply stores?

Since when is a military base a "spending" program? If the military base had never existed, then there would be no town for it to support. Less spending on the military is more beneficial economically than more spending.

Welfare doesn't benefit the middle class more than it harms them. The same goes for Medicare.

Remember, we are talking about the entire middle class, not a few isolated special interests sucking off the government teat.

 

[ilia25]

Again, the "4 to 1 capitulation" was a con. No one was fooled.

Somebody was:
Obama

The proposed cuts were real, and that is why the proposal was widely criticised on the left as a betrayal.

ROFL! Thanks for confirming that Obama and his fluffers have no intention of cutting anything.

I hope that is the case and he is not going to agree to any cuts.

You're delusional if you think Republicans will agree to that.

You are delusional if you think that anyone cares.

 

[saveliberty]

The entitlements are the problem.

Your ugly face is the problem.

Most social program spending is going to seniors and disabled. Much less money goes to help working poor and people temporary out of job.

Only 1.5% of the US population is on welfare (excluding food stamps and UI), and it costs 131 billion, or just 3.5% of total government spending. And even those people are not sitting idle, as you can earn $1000 per month and still qualify for welfare.
Welfare Statistics | Statistic Brain

So stop lying. Very few Americans choose not to work because they can get by on welfare.

Read your own source idiot. It doesn't say what you said it did.

 

[ilia25]

The entitlements are the problem.

Your ugly face is the problem.

Most social program spending is going to seniors and disabled. Much less money goes to help working poor and people temporary out of job.

Only 1.5% of the US population is on welfare (excluding food stamps and UI), and it costs 131 billion, or just 3.5% of total government spending. And even those people are not sitting idle, as you can earn $1000 per month and still qualify for welfare.
Welfare Statistics | Statistic Brain

So stop lying. Very few Americans choose not to work because they can get by on welfare.

Read your own source idiot. It doesn't say what you said it did.

Sorry, but it is you who are mentally challenged. From the link above:

Total number of Americans on welfare 4,300,000 (that's less than 1.5% of the US population)

Total government spending on welfare annually (not including food stamps or unemployment) $131.9 billion (that's less than 3.5% of the total government spending)

 

[GoneBezerk]

The limp dick argument on display.

Oh, the old people, poor people and disabled are going to die in the streets......bullshit.

Now, hopefully you get run over by a bus in the street.

The entitlements are the problem.

Your ugly face is the problem.

Most social program spending is going to seniors and disabled. Much less money goes to help working poor and people temporary out of job.

Only 1.5% of the US population is on welfare (excluding food stamps and UI), and it costs 131 billion, or just 3.5% of total government spending. And even those people are not sitting idle, as you can earn $1000 per month and still qualify for welfare.
Welfare Statistics | Statistic Brain

So stop lying. Very few Americans choose not to work because they can get by on welfare.

 

[bripat9643]

Sorry, but it is you who are mentally challenged. From the link above:

Total number of Americans on welfare 4,300,000 (that's less than 1.5% of the US population)

Total government spending on welfare annually (not including food stamps or unemployment) $131.9 billion (that's less than 3.5% of the total government spending)

Everything except the defense budget is welfare, moron.

 

[ilia25]

Sorry, but it is you who are mentally challenged. From the link above:

Total number of Americans on welfare 4,300,000 (that's less than 1.5% of the US population)

Total government spending on welfare annually (not including food stamps or unemployment) $131.9 billion (that's less than 3.5% of the total government spending)

Everything except the defense budget is welfare, moron.

Well, that's a typical reaction of a wingnut after being presented with facts. He turns into a monkey, screaming hysterically and throwing his feces around.

 

[saveliberty]

Sorry, but it is you who are mentally challenged. From the link above:

Total number of Americans on welfare 4,300,000 (that's less than 1.5% of the US population)

Total government spending on welfare annually (not including food stamps or unemployment) $131.9 billion (that's less than 3.5% of the total government spending)

So why does your source say this: Percent of the US population on welfare 4.1 %?

P.S. Food stamps is a form of welfare.

 

[saveliberty]

Oh, and you seem to have missed these little factoids:

Total Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than an $8 per hour job 40

Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than a $12 per hour job 7

 

[Koios]

All of them. But you obviously believe they all benefit the middle class, so you just admitted that you and the other Obama fluffers have no intention of cutting spending.

So military bases do not support base towns? Welfare does not support small businesses in poorer neighborhoods? Medicare does not help folks who work for scooter and medical supply stores?

Since when is a military base a "spending" program? If the military base had never existed, then there would be no town for it to support. Less spending on the military is more beneficial economically than more spending.

Welfare doesn't benefit the middle class more than it harms them. The same goes for Medicare.

Remember, we are talking about the entire middle class, not a few isolated special interests sucking off the government teat.

Since after WWII, when we began spending on a standing army. Previously we just called people up in times of war.

 

[saveliberty]

If I remember correctly, we didn't have income tax until some patriotic Americans decided to pay down war debt in the early 1900s. Congress then got the bright idea it could pay for all sorts of neat stuff and kept collecting.

 

[ilia25]

Sorry, but it is you who are mentally challenged. From the link above:

Total number of Americans on welfare 4,300,000 (that's less than 1.5% of the US population)

Total government spending on welfare annually (not including food stamps or unemployment)$131.9 billion (that's less than 3.5% of the total government spending)

So why does your source say this: Percent of the US population on welfare 4.1 %?

I don't know, maybe they are counting UI recipients. But the fact remains -- the overwhelming majority work hard to earn their living.

Even most of those receiving food stamps are getting them not because they are lazy, but because they are working low paying jobs -- and someone has to do those jobs too.

That's actually one of the reasons for rising taxes on the rich -- because the post-industrial economy creates too few high paying jobs and too many low paying ones.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Insane posts like this one started by the nutjob OP is proof liberals are fucking insane.

The DoD makes up 18% of the Federal budget but has taken the brunt of Obamination's budget cuts last year and this looming year....for around $1T.

Meanwhile we have Obamacare coming to add over $2T to the debt and scumbag liberals start these threads claiming the GOP isn't willing to cut anything (uh the DoD), when entitlements like Obamacare go untouched as over 50% of the Federal budget and growing each minute.

The OP should have its brain pulled out by medical authorities for a psych study.

 

[saveliberty]

I don't know, maybe they are counting UI recipients. But the fact remains -- the overwhelming majority work hard to earn their living.

Even most of those receiving food stamps are getting them not because they are lazy, but because they are working low paying jobs -- and someone has to do those jobs too.

That's actually one of the reasons for rising taxes on the rich -- because the post-industrial economy creates too few high paying jobs and too many low paying ones.

Interesting, so unemployed people work now? I have suspected as much.