Republicans Are, And Have Been, Attacking Social Security

[francoHFW]

What income level do you consider rich? The working "rich" pay plenty. You are a fool if you don't know this.

and if you look at the graph you'll see the rich pay the same percentage as you do which is a huge giveaway to the rich and mean and means we don't have enough money to invest in America and Americans.

 

[jc456]

Total tax burden by income group

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As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you're mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that's another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you're omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest. But here is really the only tax graph you need: It's total tax burden by income group.

The one tax graph you really need to know - Washington Post​

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What a bunch of whooie. 57% of the population doesn’t pay federal payroll taxes you fking idiot

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It should be voluntary on where your money goes, not if you have to make a contribution or not. Too many irresponsible people in this country to make decisions for their future. Then we'd all end up supporting them after they paid nothing into the system.

Your choice should be SS or a government approved IRA.

Then when the stock market crashes, everyone will be poor.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Then when the stock market crashes, everyone will be poor.

The stock market will never crash. It will go up and down like it always does, but not crash where you lose everything.

In any case it seems SS is going to crash if we don't do something soon.

 

[Smokin' OP]

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And FYI I never was a republican or a democrat and in case you haven't noticed yet but the so called tea Party hasn't been active in the last 10 years or so

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[Smokin' OP]

Yes, it is worth it, why else would a state choose to do it?

Political bragging by politicians

A slew of new jobs of people paying state tax(in most cases), sales tax and property tax. Think on that a bit and get back to me.

Not to mention the businesses and people that lose their jobs by the mega marts moving to town that pay sales and property tax already.
For a megamart who gets a 10 or 20 year exemption on taxes.

 

[DBA]

like everyone else, 400,000, at least.

Then you would agree that if Biden’s next budget proposes removing the current 160k cap on SS and NOT increasing the benefit, he is raising taxes 6-12% on those making above 160k? By your very definition, NOT the rich.

BTW, working folks making 400k/yr are paying far more than their fair share. That is not the income level that has a team of accountants working to find obscure loopholes. A surgeon, for example, making 400k per year pays plenty of taxes and certainly at least his/her fair share.

The only argument you envious folks have regarding the “rich” not paying their fair share, is perhaps trust fund baby types that live on capital gains taxes, which are less than standard income taxes for the same “income“ level. Ironically enough, there are plenty of woke Democrats that fall into this category.

 

[DBA]

and if you look at the graph you'll see the rich pay the same percentage as you do which is a huge giveaway to the rich and mean and means we don't have enough money to invest in America and Americans.

How would someone paying the same percentage as someone else be a giveaway or in any way unfair? That makes absolutely no sense. And BTW, the “rich” pay a lot more than just a higher federal income tax rate. Property tax is based on percentage of value. The “rich” typically have more valuable property, thus paying more property tax. The “rich” didn’t qualify for ANY stimulus money. The “rich” don’t get child tax credits”…yeah, none. The “rich” can’t invest in personal Roth IRA’s. The list goes on and on. Trust me, I know what I am talking about.

 

[DBA]

Political bragging by politicians

Not to mention the businesses and people that lose their jobs by the mega marts moving to town that pay sales and property tax already.
For a megamart who gets a 10 or 20 year exemption on taxes.

The big business that came to my state with big tax incentives did nothing but increase employment and salaries by a LOT. I am not talking about the Walmarts of hte world, I am talking about large engineering, manufacturing, commercial construction type companies.

 

[Blues Man]

yes, except for the Democrats. You don't think health care is important or Medicare or Medicaid or Social Security et cetera et cetera et cetera. all from the Democrats also basically infrastructure spending for a **** **** change And help bringing down the cost of Healthcare and medicines period of course they are totally obstructed by the GOP because bs emails and pedophilia. they are for day care help and paid parental leave and Cheap college training and great infrastructure and vacations and ID card to end illegal immigration and on and on just like every other modern country. GOP is a catastrophe for a century. Giveaways to the rich, foreign adventurism and Stupid Wars and corrupt deregulation bubble and bust depressions. All they have is total BS. And no they are not better than the Democrats at the economy To say the least

Medicare and SS aren't going anywhere
And democrats haven't improved our infrastructure because the entire bid system is corrupt and the only people making any money on those projects are corrupt union bosses local politicians and the people who get the kickbacks. Why do you think the Big Dig was 700% overbudget?

Democrats do everything republicans do when it comes to shady deals and payoffs you just turn a blind eye to it.

BOTH parties are owned by the same big money people. It is the corruption in the duopoly that has fucked this country up continuing to support that corrupt duopoly is only a guarantee for more of the same.

 

[Blues Man]

I doubt they were as rich as they were when they lost everything.

They didn't lose everything. That's the point.

You really think the Board of directors of those corporations went broke?

are you that naive?

 

[Blues Man]

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Yeah when was the last time you saw a Tea party rally on the news?

They are not active in any way but to take money from idiots.

 

[bripat9643]

totally irrelevant, Super Duper. the Fed has helped lessen the number of recessions and depressions, but when the GOP corrupt deregulation and oversight machine get started, it takes 8 years to have a depression bubble and bust....

You have no proof to support that claim, nimrod. It's prayer by the faithful, and nothing more.

 

[francoHFW]

You have no proof to support that claim, nimrod. It's prayer by the faithful, and nothing more.

So 1929 1989 and 2008 did not happen LOL and of course GOP deregulation and oversight had nothing to do with it, just a coincidence.... absolute idiocy, super duper.

 

[francoHFW]

Then you would agree that if Biden’s next budget proposes removing the current 160k cap on SS and NOT increasing the benefit, he is raising taxes 6-12% on those making above 160k? By your very definition, NOT the rich.

BTW, working folks making 400k/yr are paying far more than their fair share. That is not the income level that has a team of accountants working to find obscure loopholes. A surgeon, for example, making 400k per year pays plenty of taxes and certainly at least his/her fair share.

The only argument you envious folks have regarding the “rich” not paying their fair share, is perhaps trust fund baby types that live on capital gains taxes, which are less than standard income taxes for the same “income“ level. Ironically enough, there are plenty of woke Democrats that fall into this category.

read that article and stop being a brainwashed Dupe parroting garbage propaganda. If you count all taxes, everyone is paying about 25%. that is a huge giveaway to the rich and a screw job for everyone else. We're becoming a banana republic after 40 years of that crap.

 

[francoHFW]

How would someone paying the same percentage as someone else be a giveaway or in any way unfair? That makes absolutely no sense. And BTW, the “rich” pay a lot more than just a higher federal income tax rate. Property tax is based on percentage of value. The “rich” typically have more valuable property, thus paying more property tax. The “rich” didn’t qualify for ANY stimulus money. The “rich” don’t get child tax credits”…yeah, none. The “rich” can’t invest in personal Roth IRA’s. The list goes on and on. Trust me, I know what I am talking about.

Because that is what has happened every time with low top tax rates and every economy ever. you have to be a total brainwashed ignoramus to think it's not true And just look at the stats for God's sake.... the worst inequality and upward mobility and homelessness is not a joke, dingbats. blaming Biden for all that is absolutely insane....

 

[bripat9643]

So 1929 1989 and 2008 did not happen LOL and of course GOP deregulation and oversight had nothing to do with it, just a coincidence.... absolute idiocy, super duper.

Don't they disprove what you claim about the Federal Reserve, dumbass? We had the federal reserve, but we still have major recessions.

 

[bripat9643]

Because that is what has happened every time with low top tax rates and every economy ever. you have to be a total brainwashed ignoramus to think it's not true And just look at the stats for God's sake.... the worst inequality and upward mobility and homelessness is not a joke, dingbats. blaming Biden for all that is absolutely insane....

Don't be a total dumbass.

 

[francoHFW]

Don't be a total dumbass.

so tell us what the worst inequality, upward mobility, and homelessness ever anywhere in the modern world means...

 

[francoHFW]

Don't they disprove what you claim about the Federal Reserve, dumbass? We had the federal reserve, but we still have major recessions.

...when we give the CORRUPT GOP the reins, deal is
off, dupe...