Republicans call Democrats "weak". Is a WALL a sign of weakness or a sign of strength?

[Yousaidwhat]

At the united Nations, President Obama said that building a wall is building a prison.

Some other examples of "walls".

The Iron Curtain, designed to keep captive people in, not to protect those people from outsiders.

The Great Wall of China. It's estimated that millions worked on it for over 2,000 years. It extended over 6,000 miles, consumed the wealth of a nation and was a failure. Not only did it not stop invaders, it left the Chinese with no place to go. What if that money had been spent instead on military training, education, and diplomacy?

North Korea, Iran, and other countries with dictatorships or a religious theocracy may not have actual walls, but walls built with soldiers and guns. Not to keep threats out, but to keep it's own people hostage.

Our police aren't there to keep Americans hostage, they are there to protect us from the criminal element. To help us do what we can't as individual Americans. And they are as diverse in most communities, as the people they protect.

So walls fail. They always fail. But what hasn't failed? America hasn't failed unless we waste our time and money on building a prison.

Things Republicans don't want you to know:

More Mexicans leave every year that come into to the country.

Only 1 of every 9 jobs were moved overseas. The other jobs were lost to automation. Those jobs are still here, only done by robots. That's why our productivity has skyrocketed even though jobs disapeared. But they didn't all disappear, and many new jobs have been created. There are 5.8 million jobs unfilled because people don't have the skills to do those jobs.

So what would you spend our money on? Building a wall, or retraining Americans to qualify for those high paying skilled jobs? Which makes the most sense to you?

Comparing immigrants to snakes, rapists, a Trojan Horse and poisoned candy is actually a smear to an entire nation of immigrants. To me, that's obvious. We are people. Human beings.

What would our ancestors think? People brave enough to come here and start over? How would they see the wall? As a sign of strength or a sign of weakness? What do you think?

We need to be strong enough to deal with problems. As a veteran, to me, hiding and walls are a sign of weakness, not strength. Running and hiding is what cowards do. Are you a coward?

The first argument of Republicans is: You talk brave enough. Do you want to be blown up by a bomber?

If that's the argument you want to use, the reality is most of those bombs have gone off in Boston, New York and California. Bastions of liberalism.

The terrorists in the south tend to be home grown. Timothy McVeigh, the white guy who ran into a black church and shot it up killing many. Another white guy running into a church and shooting a doctor. I wonder how many are not reported because the media is consumed with Muslims?

Building a wall won't stop those people. Using that money for funding and training police departments and other investigative agencies has a much better chance. To me, that's obvious. There is a delicate balance between safety and civil liberties. But we can do it, but not if we discriminate and build walls.

No matter what you say or how much sense you make, you will have ignorant reactionaries cry "Oh, you want want to flood our country with Muslims" or "You hate our country" or some other such nonsense. That is just one more obstacle we will need to overcome to fulfill the dream of our of founding fathers. The threat isn't just from people coming into the country, but also the ignorance of the chicken littles who are already living here.

The "wall" or Trump's vision of the Wall is a sign of weakness, cowardly ineptness.

And totally contrary to the founding values of our country.

How many have you sponsored?

 

[Uncensored2008]

We don't call you "weak."

We call you traitorous fucking Communist scum.

We strive to be accurate, after all...

 

[occupied]

Why can't lefties see it? Open borders are a sign of weakness. Secure borders are a sign of strength.

A border wall would not secure the border, even a cursory examination of various border walls in history shows them to be quite porous. People still cross, they just have to work a little harder and pay more to the criminals who control the ways across. Just as the drug war created the cartels, a wall would just create another criminal enterprise.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

At the united Nations, President Obama said that building a wall is building a prison.

Some other examples of "walls".

The Iron Curtain, designed to keep captive people in, not to protect those people from outsiders.

The Great Wall of China. It's estimated that millions worked on it for over 2,000 years. It extended over 6,000 miles, consumed the wealth of a nation and was a failure. Not only did it not stop invaders, it left the Chinese with no place to go. What if that money had been spent instead on military training, education, and diplomacy?

North Korea, Iran, and other countries with dictatorships or a religious theocracy may not have actual walls, but walls built with soldiers and guns. Not to keep threats out, but to keep it's own people hostage.

Our police aren't there to keep Americans hostage, they are there to protect us from the criminal element. To help us do what we can't as individual Americans. And they are as diverse in most communities, as the people they protect.

So walls fail. They always fail. But what hasn't failed? America hasn't failed unless we waste our time and money on building a prison.

Things Republicans don't want you to know:

More Mexicans leave every year that come into to the country.

Only 1 of every 9 jobs were moved overseas. The other jobs were lost to automation. Those jobs are still here, only done by robots. That's why our productivity has skyrocketed even though jobs disapeared. But they didn't all disappear, and many new jobs have been created. There are 5.8 million jobs unfilled because people don't have the skills to do those jobs.

So what would you spend our money on? Building a wall, or retraining Americans to qualify for those high paying skilled jobs? Which makes the most sense to you?

Comparing immigrants to snakes, rapists, a Trojan Horse and poisoned candy is actually a smear to an entire nation of immigrants. To me, that's obvious. We are people. Human beings.

What would our ancestors think? People brave enough to come here and start over? How would they see the wall? As a sign of strength or a sign of weakness? What do you think?

We need to be strong enough to deal with problems. As a veteran, to me, hiding and walls are a sign of weakness, not strength. Running and hiding is what cowards do. Are you a coward?

The first argument of Republicans is: You talk brave enough. Do you want to be blown up by a bomber?

If that's the argument you want to use, the reality is most of those bombs have gone off in Boston, New York and California. Bastions of liberalism.

The terrorists in the south tend to be home grown. Timothy McVeigh, the white guy who ran into a black church and shot it up killing many. Another white guy running into a church and shooting a doctor. I wonder how many are not reported because the media is consumed with Muslims?

Building a wall won't stop those people. Using that money for funding and training police departments and other investigative agencies has a much better chance. To me, that's obvious. There is a delicate balance between safety and civil liberties. But we can do it, but not if we discriminate and build walls.

No matter what you say or how much sense you make, you will have ignorant reactionaries cry "Oh, you want want to flood our country with Muslims" or "You hate our country" or some other such nonsense. That is just one more obstacle we will need to overcome to fulfill the dream of our of founding fathers. The threat isn't just from people coming into the country, but also the ignorance of the chicken littles who are already living here.

the ignorant twits are afraid of their own shadows

Empty space between those ears?

 

[rdean]

At the united Nations, President Obama said that building a wall is building a prison.

Some other examples of "walls".

The Iron Curtain, designed to keep captive people in, not to protect those people from outsiders.

The Great Wall of China. It's estimated that millions worked on it for over 2,000 years. It extended over 6,000 miles, consumed the wealth of a nation and was a failure. Not only did it not stop invaders, it left the Chinese with no place to go. What if that money had been spent instead on military training, education, and diplomacy?

North Korea, Iran, and other countries with dictatorships or a religious theocracy may not have actual walls, but walls built with soldiers and guns. Not to keep threats out, but to keep it's own people hostage.

Our police aren't there to keep Americans hostage, they are there to protect us from the criminal element. To help us do what we can't as individual Americans. And they are as diverse in most communities, as the people they protect.

So walls fail. They always fail. But what hasn't failed? America hasn't failed unless we waste our time and money on building a prison.

Things Republicans don't want you to know:

More Mexicans leave every year that come into to the country.

Only 1 of every 9 jobs were moved overseas. The other jobs were lost to automation. Those jobs are still here, only done by robots. That's why our productivity has skyrocketed even though jobs disapeared. But they didn't all disappear, and many new jobs have been created. There are 5.8 million jobs unfilled because people don't have the skills to do those jobs.

So what would you spend our money on? Building a wall, or retraining Americans to qualify for those high paying skilled jobs? Which makes the most sense to you?

Comparing immigrants to snakes, rapists, a Trojan Horse and poisoned candy is actually a smear to an entire nation of immigrants. To me, that's obvious. We are people. Human beings.

What would our ancestors think? People brave enough to come here and start over? How would they see the wall? As a sign of strength or a sign of weakness? What do you think?

We need to be strong enough to deal with problems. As a veteran, to me, hiding and walls are a sign of weakness, not strength. Running and hiding is what cowards do. Are you a coward?

The first argument of Republicans is: You talk brave enough. Do you want to be blown up by a bomber?

If that's the argument you want to use, the reality is most of those bombs have gone off in Boston, New York and California. Bastions of liberalism.

The terrorists in the south tend to be home grown. Timothy McVeigh, the white guy who ran into a black church and shot it up killing many. Another white guy running into a church and shooting a doctor. I wonder how many are not reported because the media is consumed with Muslims?

Building a wall won't stop those people. Using that money for funding and training police departments and other investigative agencies has a much better chance. To me, that's obvious. There is a delicate balance between safety and civil liberties. But we can do it, but not if we discriminate and build walls.

No matter what you say or how much sense you make, you will have ignorant reactionaries cry "Oh, you want want to flood our country with Muslims" or "You hate our country" or some other such nonsense. That is just one more obstacle we will need to overcome to fulfill the dream of our of founding fathers. The threat isn't just from people coming into the country, but also the ignorance of the chicken littles who are already living here.

the ignorant twits are afraid of their own shadows

It really looks that way.

 

[JBond]

Fat butt slap. So fun for both of you.

 

[Pilate]

Is a building a sign of supreme weakness? It has four walls AND a roof!

 

[Skull Pilot]

At the united Nations, President Obama said that building a wall is building a prison.

Some other examples of "walls".

The Iron Curtain, designed to keep captive people in, not to protect those people from outsiders.

The Great Wall of China. It's estimated that millions worked on it for over 2,000 years. It extended over 6,000 miles, consumed the wealth of a nation and was a failure. Not only did it not stop invaders, it left the Chinese with no place to go. What if that money had been spent instead on military training, education, and diplomacy?

North Korea, Iran, and other countries with dictatorships or a religious theocracy may not have actual walls, but walls built with soldiers and guns. Not to keep threats out, but to keep it's own people hostage.

Our police aren't there to keep Americans hostage, they are there to protect us from the criminal element. To help us do what we can't as individual Americans. And they are as diverse in most communities, as the people they protect.

So walls fail. They always fail. But what hasn't failed? America hasn't failed unless we waste our time and money on building a prison.

Things Republicans don't want you to know:

More Mexicans leave every year that come into to the country.

Only 1 of every 9 jobs were moved overseas. The other jobs were lost to automation. Those jobs are still here, only done by robots. That's why our productivity has skyrocketed even though jobs disapeared. But they didn't all disappear, and many new jobs have been created. There are 5.8 million jobs unfilled because people don't have the skills to do those jobs.

So what would you spend our money on? Building a wall, or retraining Americans to qualify for those high paying skilled jobs? Which makes the most sense to you?

Comparing immigrants to snakes, rapists, a Trojan Horse and poisoned candy is actually a smear to an entire nation of immigrants. To me, that's obvious. We are people. Human beings.

What would our ancestors think? People brave enough to come here and start over? How would they see the wall? As a sign of strength or a sign of weakness? What do you think?

We need to be strong enough to deal with problems. As a veteran, to me, hiding and walls are a sign of weakness, not strength. Running and hiding is what cowards do. Are you a coward?

The first argument of Republicans is: You talk brave enough. Do you want to be blown up by a bomber?

If that's the argument you want to use, the reality is most of those bombs have gone off in Boston, New York and California. Bastions of liberalism.

The terrorists in the south tend to be home grown. Timothy McVeigh, the white guy who ran into a black church and shot it up killing many. Another white guy running into a church and shooting a doctor. I wonder how many are not reported because the media is consumed with Muslims?

Building a wall won't stop those people. Using that money for funding and training police departments and other investigative agencies has a much better chance. To me, that's obvious. There is a delicate balance between safety and civil liberties. But we can do it, but not if we discriminate and build walls.

No matter what you say or how much sense you make, you will have ignorant reactionaries cry "Oh, you want want to flood our country with Muslims" or "You hate our country" or some other such nonsense. That is just one more obstacle we will need to overcome to fulfill the dream of our of founding fathers. The threat isn't just from people coming into the country, but also the ignorance of the chicken littles who are already living here.

You do know the iron curtain was a metaphor and not a real giant metal curtain don't you?

Unless you were in Berlin. You know that, right?

The Berlin wall and the Iron curtain were 2 completely different things

The Iron curtain was a metaphor used in a speech by Winston Churchill in 1946 it was not some edifice"designed" by anyone to do anything since it was merely a figure of speech

The Berlin wall OTOH was not built until 1961

I see what you are trying to do here. You want to argue of a metaphor trying to deflect.

Remains of the "iron curtain" in Devínska Nová Ves, Bratislava (Slovakia)

Preserved part of "iron curtain" in the Czech Republic.

See these? They don't exist.

That's called a barbed wire fence

The Iron Curtain is nothing but a metaphor and always has been nothing but a metaphor

You just thought it was real and actually designed by someone

That's hilarious