Republicans Mock, "It's the Russians!!!" Well Yeah, Actually It Is.

[Lewdog]

Foreign Government Gifts to Clinton Foundation on the Rise
Foreign donations to foundation raise major ethical questions for Hillary Clinton
Clinton Foundation defends foreign donations - CNNPolitics.com

Pardon me for being highly skeptical of a family that has been steeped in scandal for my entire life...

This wasn't an either/or situation. You didn't have to elect Trump in the Primaries to run against Clinton. You could have had REAL candidates like Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, or Bush.

 

[DOTR]

Washington Post has interspaced its crys of "fake news" with a hit piece on the alt right today. Does anyone even read that rag any more?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Washington Post? Fake news spreading fake news....precious....

Fake News reporting on independent studies by multiple organizations... brilliant! You can't attack the information so you attack the source.

The Washington post....if you get it, you don't get it....

You needn't say anymore.....

funny, you don't believe the Washington Post because of all the fake news that was caused by Russia... see how that works?

No, the WP is just fake news.....

Blinded... blinded by the enemy Russia. My God this is what our country has come to? Almost half the population is so dumb they get trolled by fake news from another country to get one candidate elected and they just don't care...

The major problem with this country IS the two party system. So many people focus so much on what party someone is from that they don't use common sense anymore to look at the issues and what's going on around them. Russia worked HARD to get Trump elected... and you just don't care. Why? Because he ran as a Republican.

Almost half the population is so dumb they get trolled by fake news from another country to get one candidate elected and they just don't care...

Was this "fake" news pointing out Hillary's corruption?
Her ill-health?
What exactly did it say that caused people to vote against the Clinton crime family?

The major problem with this country IS the two party system. So many people focus so much on what party someone is from that they don't use common sense anymore

That did explain why Hillary didn't lose honorably to Bernie during the primaries.

 

[EverCurious]

Foreign Government Gifts to Clinton Foundation on the Rise
Foreign donations to foundation raise major ethical questions for Hillary Clinton
Clinton Foundation defends foreign donations - CNNPolitics.com

Pardon me for being highly skeptical of a family that has been steeped in scandal for my entire life...

This wasn't an either/or situation. You didn't have to elect Trump in the Primaries to run against Clinton. You could have had REAL candidates like Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, or Bush.

... What the hell does that have to do with Hillary Clinton accepting money from foreign countries?

The R's nominated Trump, I'm not a registered R so I had no say in that decision...

 

[owebo]

Washington Post has interspaced its crys of "fake news" with a hit piece on the alt right today. Does anyone even read that rag any more?

Only the democrats believe that fake news....

 

[owebo]

The Washington Post? Fake news spreading fake news....precious....

Fake News reporting on independent studies by multiple organizations... brilliant! You can't attack the information so you attack the source.

The Washington post....if you get it, you don't get it....

You needn't say anymore.....

funny, you don't believe the Washington Post because of all the fake news that was caused by Russia... see how that works?

No, the WP is just fake news.....

Blinded... blinded by the enemy Russia. My God this is what our country has come to? Almost half the population is so dumb they get trolled by fake news from another country to get one candidate elected and they just don't care...

The major problem with this country IS the two party system. So many people focus so much on what party someone is from that they don't use common sense anymore to look at the issues and what's going on around them. Russia worked HARD to get Trump elected... and you just don't care. Why? Because he ran as a Republican.

The fake news tell you that??

 

[ding]

All election cycle people have been pointing out how so many fake news stories have been coming out of the media... and many anti-Trump people have blamed it on the Russians only to be mocked by his supporters. Well it is time to reap what you sow, because independent reports are coming out to show just how gullible you were. It WAS the Russians, and all their fake news stories were to help Trump get elected. Not just opinions, they have traced the sites, the tweets, etc. to Russia.

Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say

How is this any different than paid trolls? Everything is propaganda. What you wrote here is propaganda. What I am writing here is propaganda. So what?

propaganda: information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

 

[ding]

Foreign Government Gifts to Clinton Foundation on the Rise
Foreign donations to foundation raise major ethical questions for Hillary Clinton
Clinton Foundation defends foreign donations - CNNPolitics.com

Pardon me for being highly skeptical of a family that has been steeped in scandal for my entire life...

This wasn't an either/or situation. You didn't have to elect Trump in the Primaries to run against Clinton. You could have had REAL candidates like Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, or Bush.

You want a great example of propaganda? Your propaganda that Republicans are racists and by inference Democrats are not. That's propaganda. First of all there is a distribution of degree. Secondly, we would expect this distribution to exist across all groups regardless of party, race or creed. And lastly the fallacy of your propaganda is that today I could be a Republican - and therefore racist - and tomorrow I could switch parties and not be a racist but in reality I am the exact same person on both days. The reality is that history has recorded the Democratic Party as the party of slavery, racism and segregation and the Republican Party as the party which ended slavery, racism and segregation. I suspect your propaganda is born out of the need rationalize your political heritage and use the lie for political gain. That or you are truly ignorant of your party's racist heritage. Either way... it is a textbook example of propaganda.

 

[Lewdog]

Foreign Government Gifts to Clinton Foundation on the Rise
Foreign donations to foundation raise major ethical questions for Hillary Clinton
Clinton Foundation defends foreign donations - CNNPolitics.com

Pardon me for being highly skeptical of a family that has been steeped in scandal for my entire life...

This wasn't an either/or situation. You didn't have to elect Trump in the Primaries to run against Clinton. You could have had REAL candidates like Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, or Bush.

You want a great example of propaganda? Your propaganda that Republicans are racists and by inference Democrats are not. That's propaganda. First of all there is a distribution of degree. Secondly, we would expect this distribution to exist across all groups regardless of party, race or creed. And lastly the fallacy of your propaganda is that today I could be a Republican - and therefore racist - and tomorrow I could switch parties and not be a racist but in reality I am the exact same person on both days. The reality is that history has recorded the Democratic Party as the party of slavery, racism and segregation and the Republican Party as the party which ended slavery, racism and segregation. I suspect your propaganda is born out of the need rationalize your political heritage and use the lie for political gain. That or you are truly ignorant of your party's racist heritage. Either way... it is a textbook example of propaganda.

I don't call ALL Republicans racist. So you have lost the argument there and I won't read the rest. I call people that make racist remarks and have racist agendas racist.

The comment you just made IS propaganda because someone new to this forum that reads your post without reading any of mine...will think I call everyone racist, which I do not.

 

[irosie91]

All election cycle people have been pointing out how so many fake news stories have been coming out of the media... and many anti-Trump people have blamed it on the Russians only to be mocked by his supporters. Well it is time to reap what you sow, because independent reports are coming out to show just how gullible you were. It WAS the Russians, and all their fake news stories were to help Trump get elected. Not just opinions, they have traced the sites, the tweets, etc. to Russia.

Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say

is THE WASHINGTON POST----the best you can do------it is a propaganda toilet rag

 

[Lewdog]

All election cycle people have been pointing out how so many fake news stories have been coming out of the media... and many anti-Trump people have blamed it on the Russians only to be mocked by his supporters. Well it is time to reap what you sow, because independent reports are coming out to show just how gullible you were. It WAS the Russians, and all their fake news stories were to help Trump get elected. Not just opinions, they have traced the sites, the tweets, etc. to Russia.

Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say

is THE WASHINGTON POST----the best you can do------it is a propaganda toilet rag

You can't refute the points they are making with their sources... so you attack the paper.

Funny you will do this with the Washington Post, but when people posted stuff from The Blaze or crap like that, that was Pro-Trump, you're all over it agreeing with everything it says and liking every pro-Trump post.

Do you NOT see the problem with that?

 

[ding]

Foreign Government Gifts to Clinton Foundation on the Rise
Foreign donations to foundation raise major ethical questions for Hillary Clinton
Clinton Foundation defends foreign donations - CNNPolitics.com

Pardon me for being highly skeptical of a family that has been steeped in scandal for my entire life...

This wasn't an either/or situation. You didn't have to elect Trump in the Primaries to run against Clinton. You could have had REAL candidates like Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, or Bush.

You want a great example of propaganda? Your propaganda that Republicans are racists and by inference Democrats are not. That's propaganda. First of all there is a distribution of degree. Secondly, we would expect this distribution to exist across all groups regardless of party, race or creed. And lastly the fallacy of your propaganda is that today I could be a Republican - and therefore racist - and tomorrow I could switch parties and not be a racist but in reality I am the exact same person on both days. The reality is that history has recorded the Democratic Party as the party of slavery, racism and segregation and the Republican Party as the party which ended slavery, racism and segregation. I suspect your propaganda is born out of the need rationalize your political heritage and use the lie for political gain. That or you are truly ignorant of your party's racist heritage. Either way... it is a textbook example of propaganda.

I don't call ALL Republicans racist. So you have lost the argument there and I won't read the rest. I call people that make racist remarks and have racist agendas racist.

The comment you just made IS propaganda because someone new to this forum that reads your post without reading any of mine...will think I call everyone racist, which I do not.

I don't see you making that distinction in your signature. I'm pretty sure they will figure that out without reading my last comment.

 

[Lewdog]

Foreign Government Gifts to Clinton Foundation on the Rise
Foreign donations to foundation raise major ethical questions for Hillary Clinton
Clinton Foundation defends foreign donations - CNNPolitics.com

Pardon me for being highly skeptical of a family that has been steeped in scandal for my entire life...

This wasn't an either/or situation. You didn't have to elect Trump in the Primaries to run against Clinton. You could have had REAL candidates like Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, or Bush.

You want a great example of propaganda? Your propaganda that Republicans are racists and by inference Democrats are not. That's propaganda. First of all there is a distribution of degree. Secondly, we would expect this distribution to exist across all groups regardless of party, race or creed. And lastly the fallacy of your propaganda is that today I could be a Republican - and therefore racist - and tomorrow I could switch parties and not be a racist but in reality I am the exact same person on both days. The reality is that history has recorded the Democratic Party as the party of slavery, racism and segregation and the Republican Party as the party which ended slavery, racism and segregation. I suspect your propaganda is born out of the need rationalize your political heritage and use the lie for political gain. That or you are truly ignorant of your party's racist heritage. Either way... it is a textbook example of propaganda.

I don't call ALL Republicans racist. So you have lost the argument there and I won't read the rest. I call people that make racist remarks and have racist agendas racist.

The comment you just made IS propaganda because someone new to this forum that reads your post without reading any of mine...will think I call everyone racist, which I do not.

I don't see you making that distinction in your signature. I'm pretty sure they will figure that out without reading my last comment.

You don't see the distinction? It's because all the Republicans on this board attack everyone that calls an individual a racist by saying they call EVERYONE racist that is a Republican. I'm pointing out that a Republican IS making a racist statement, and that's why some Republicans get called racist.

 

[ding]

Foreign Government Gifts to Clinton Foundation on the Rise
Foreign donations to foundation raise major ethical questions for Hillary Clinton
Clinton Foundation defends foreign donations - CNNPolitics.com

Pardon me for being highly skeptical of a family that has been steeped in scandal for my entire life...

This wasn't an either/or situation. You didn't have to elect Trump in the Primaries to run against Clinton. You could have had REAL candidates like Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, or Bush.

You want a great example of propaganda? Your propaganda that Republicans are racists and by inference Democrats are not. That's propaganda. First of all there is a distribution of degree. Secondly, we would expect this distribution to exist across all groups regardless of party, race or creed. And lastly the fallacy of your propaganda is that today I could be a Republican - and therefore racist - and tomorrow I could switch parties and not be a racist but in reality I am the exact same person on both days. The reality is that history has recorded the Democratic Party as the party of slavery, racism and segregation and the Republican Party as the party which ended slavery, racism and segregation. I suspect your propaganda is born out of the need rationalize your political heritage and use the lie for political gain. That or you are truly ignorant of your party's racist heritage. Either way... it is a textbook example of propaganda.

I don't call ALL Republicans racist. So you have lost the argument there and I won't read the rest. I call people that make racist remarks and have racist agendas racist.

The comment you just made IS propaganda because someone new to this forum that reads your post without reading any of mine...will think I call everyone racist, which I do not.

I don't see you making that distinction in your signature. I'm pretty sure they will figure that out without reading my last comment.

You don't see the distinction? It's because all the Republicans on this board attack everyone that calls an individual a racist by saying they call EVERYONE racist that is a Republican. I'm pointing out that a Republican IS making a racist statement, and that's why some Republicans get called racist.

Your signature doesn't say some Republicans.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

All election cycle people have been pointing out how so many fake news stories have been coming out of the media... and many anti-Trump people have blamed it on the Russians only to be mocked by his supporters. Well it is time to reap what you sow, because independent reports are coming out to show just how gullible you were. It WAS the Russians, and all their fake news stories were to help Trump get elected. Not just opinions, they have traced the sites, the tweets, etc. to Russia.

Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say

How gullible are you? Who are these experts? How did they "trace" these tweets or websites?

The Washington Post on Thursday night promoted the claims of a new, shadowy organization that smears dozens of U.S. news sites that are critical of U.S. foreign policy as being “routine peddlers of Russian propaganda.” The article by reporter Craig Timberg – headlined “Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say” – cites a report by a new, anonymous website calling itself “PropOrNot,” which claims that millions of Americans have been deceived this year in a massive Russian “misinformation campaign.”

The group’s list of Russian disinformation outlets includes WikiLeaks and the Drudge Report, as well as Clinton-critical left-wing websites such as Truthout, Black Agenda Report, Truthdig and Naked Capitalism, as well as libertarian venues such as Antiwar.com and the Ron Paul Institute.

This Post report was one of the most widely circulated political news articles on social media over the last 48 hours, with dozens, perhaps hundreds, of U.S. journalists and pundits with large platforms hailing it as an earth-shattering exposé. It was the most-read piece on the entire Post website after it was published on Friday.

Yet the article is rife with obviously reckless and unproven allegations, and fundamentally shaped by shoddy, slothful journalistic tactics. It was not surprising to learn that, as BuzzFeed’s Sheera Frenkel noted, “a lot of reporters passed on this story.” Its huge flaws are self-evident. But the Post gleefully ran with it and then promoted it aggressively, led by its Executive Editor Marty Baron:

Washington Post Disgracefully Promotes a McCarthyite Blacklist From a New, Hidden, and Very Shady Group

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

All election cycle people have been pointing out how so many fake news stories have been coming out of the media... and many anti-Trump people have blamed it on the Russians only to be mocked by his supporters. Well it is time to reap what you sow, because independent reports are coming out to show just how gullible you were. It WAS the Russians, and all their fake news stories were to help Trump get elected. Not just opinions, they have traced the sites, the tweets, etc. to Russia.

Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say

The Washington Post? Fake news spreading fake news....precious....

Fake News reporting on independent studies by multiple organizations... brilliant! You can't attack the information so you attack the source.

"PropOrNot" is suddenly multiple organizations? Many of the organizations they claimed to be "allied" with came out and said they'd never heard of them.

 

[Lewdog]

All election cycle people have been pointing out how so many fake news stories have been coming out of the media... and many anti-Trump people have blamed it on the Russians only to be mocked by his supporters. Well it is time to reap what you sow, because independent reports are coming out to show just how gullible you were. It WAS the Russians, and all their fake news stories were to help Trump get elected. Not just opinions, they have traced the sites, the tweets, etc. to Russia.

Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say

How gullible are you? Who are these experts? How did they "trace" these tweets or websites?

The Washington Post on Thursday night promoted the claims of a new, shadowy organization that smears dozens of U.S. news sites that are critical of U.S. foreign policy as being “routine peddlers of Russian propaganda.” The article by reporter Craig Timberg – headlined “Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say” – cites a report by a new, anonymous website calling itself “PropOrNot,” which claims that millions of Americans have been deceived this year in a massive Russian “misinformation campaign.”

The group’s list of Russian disinformation outlets includes WikiLeaks and the Drudge Report, as well as Clinton-critical left-wing websites such as Truthout, Black Agenda Report, Truthdig and Naked Capitalism, as well as libertarian venues such as Antiwar.com and the Ron Paul Institute.

This Post report was one of the most widely circulated political news articles on social media over the last 48 hours, with dozens, perhaps hundreds, of U.S. journalists and pundits with large platforms hailing it as an earth-shattering exposé. It was the most-read piece on the entire Post website after it was published on Friday.

Yet the article is rife with obviously reckless and unproven allegations, and fundamentally shaped by shoddy, slothful journalistic tactics. It was not surprising to learn that, as BuzzFeed’s Sheera Frenkel noted, “a lot of reporters passed on this story.” Its huge flaws are self-evident. But the Post gleefully ran with it and then promoted it aggressively, led by its Executive Editor Marty Baron:

Washington Post Disgracefully Promotes a McCarthyite Blacklist From a New, Hidden, and Very Shady Group

Who are the experts? Did you read the article? It tells you who they are...

 

[Lewdog]

All election cycle people have been pointing out how so many fake news stories have been coming out of the media... and many anti-Trump people have blamed it on the Russians only to be mocked by his supporters. Well it is time to reap what you sow, because independent reports are coming out to show just how gullible you were. It WAS the Russians, and all their fake news stories were to help Trump get elected. Not just opinions, they have traced the sites, the tweets, etc. to Russia.

Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say

The Washington Post? Fake news spreading fake news....precious....

Fake News reporting on independent studies by multiple organizations... brilliant! You can't attack the information so you attack the source.

"PropOrNot" is suddenly multiple organizations? Many of the organizations they claimed to be "allied" with came out and said they'd never heard of them.

You obviously didn't read the article...it says there is more than one report.

Two teams of independent researchers found that the Russians exploited American-made technology platforms to attack U.S. democracy at a particularly vulnerable moment, as an insurgent candidate harnessed a wide range of grievances to claim the White House.

Watts’s report on this work, with colleagues Andrew Weisburd and J.M. Berger, appeared on the national security online magazine War on the Rocks this month under the headline “Trolling for Trump: How Russia Is Trying to Destroy Our Democracy.” Another group, called PropOrNot, a nonpartisan collection of researchers with foreign policy, military and technology backgrounds, planned to release its own findings Friday showing the startling reach and effectiveness of Russian propaganda campaigns.

If I had a dollar for every person on this forum that responded to a post about an article without actually reading the article...I'd be able to rent a floor at Trump Tower for a day.

 

[irosie91]

All election cycle people have been pointing out how so many fake news stories have been coming out of the media... and many anti-Trump people have blamed it on the Russians only to be mocked by his supporters. Well it is time to reap what you sow, because independent reports are coming out to show just how gullible you were. It WAS the Russians, and all their fake news stories were to help Trump get elected. Not just opinions, they have traced the sites, the tweets, etc. to Russia.

Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say

is THE WASHINGTON POST----the best you can do------it is a propaganda toilet rag

You can't refute the points they are making with their sources... so you attack the paper.

Funny you will do this with the Washington Post, but when people posted stuff from The Blaze or crap like that, that was Pro-Trump, you're all over it agreeing with everything it says and liking every pro-Trump post.

Do you NOT see the problem with that?

I have never read "the blaze" and, CERTAINLY, did not critique it-----I do not remember being "all over" THE BLAZE-----it
it published something with which I agree----that fact is not MY ENDORSEMENT of the paper itself. Do you see something wrong with YUU?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

All election cycle people have been pointing out how so many fake news stories have been coming out of the media... and many anti-Trump people have blamed it on the Russians only to be mocked by his supporters. Well it is time to reap what you sow, because independent reports are coming out to show just how gullible you were. It WAS the Russians, and all their fake news stories were to help Trump get elected. Not just opinions, they have traced the sites, the tweets, etc. to Russia.

Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say

is THE WASHINGTON POST----the best you can do------it is a propaganda toilet rag

You can't refute the points they are making with their sources... so you attack the paper.

Funny you will do this with the Washington Post, but when people posted stuff from The Blaze or crap like that, that was Pro-Trump, you're all over it agreeing with everything it says and liking every pro-Trump post.

Do you NOT see the problem with that?

Refute what? They're simply making claims that these websites work for Putin with no evidence.