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Every Poll I'm seeing places the blame on this retarded shutdown on the GOP...and rightfully so. Pushing your own personal agenda through a blackmail threat since you don't have the votes otherwise is truly evil.
Why should Obamacare be funded when the people in the current congress elected by the people don't want to fund it? It shouldn't. That prior congresses can pass programs and force future congresses to fund them unless they get the votes to defund them is what's evil.
Congress should fund the programs that the votes are there to fund. Period. This is on the Democratic party that they are shutting down government to force funding of a program they don't have the votes to fund.
Not true. America had it's chance to repeal ObamaCare last year when the rightwing put up a candidate for president who ran on repealing it.Right. They were sent to defund Obamacare. Which is what they are doing.
America chose the candidate who was in favor of keeping ObamaCare over the candidate who was in favor of repealing it.
The rigged election was about who could promise more gov't cheese to inner city Negroes. Obama won that contest.
It was not a referendum on Obamacare.
Many of the Republicans now active in Congress ran explicitly on repeal. And the sentiment fro repeal gets bigger each day.
Not true. America had it's chance to repeal ObamaCare last year when the rightwing put up a candidate for president who ran on repealing it.Right. They were sent to defund Obamacare. Which is what they are doing.
America chose the candidate who was in favor of keeping ObamaCare over the candidate who was in favor of repealing it.
it wasn't a one issue election moron
Every Poll I'm seeing places the blame on this retarded shutdown on the GOP...and rightfully so. Pushing your own personal agenda through a blackmail threat since you don't have the votes otherwise is truly evil.
Why should Obamacare be funded when the people in the current congress elected by the people don't want to fund it? It shouldn't. That prior congresses can pass programs and force future congresses to fund them unless they get the votes to defund them is what's evil.
Congress should fund the programs that the votes are there to fund. Period. This is on the Democratic party that they are shutting down government to force funding of a program they don't have the votes to fund.
They should fund it because it's the law. If they don't like it, change the law. Don't unilaterally decide which laws should be supported and which laws should be cut.
The GOP is behaving like babies who are throwing a tantrum because they failed to repeal a law they don't like. Kind of explains why Cruz was quoting Dr. Seuss though.
Shutting down the government, which really won't be shut down anyway, doesn't default on the debt. Neither does refusing to raise the debt ceiling for that matter.
It's lib-speak. If we dont raise the debt ceiling then children will die. Hysteria is all they have.
I've already seen the "grandma is going to be forced to eat cat food" lament.
Why should Obamacare be funded when the people in the current congress elected by the people don't want to fund it? It shouldn't. That prior congresses can pass programs and force future congresses to fund them unless they get the votes to defund them is what's evil.
Congress should fund the programs that the votes are there to fund. Period. This is on the Democratic party that they are shutting down government to force funding of a program they don't have the votes to fund.
They should fund it because it's the law. If they don't like it, change the law. Don't unilaterally decide which laws should be supported and which laws should be cut.
The GOP is behaving like babies who are throwing a tantrum because they failed to repeal a law they don't like. Kind of explains why Cruz was quoting Dr. Seuss though.
you don't have to fund a law moron
see checks and balances
The GOP can't kill ObamaCare by repealing it. They tried a million times.
They want to force the Democrats and Obama to defund it by threatening a govt. shutdown or govt. default.
such scum.
and the American people see what's going on.
How quickly they forget. The Bush tax cuts were passed in 2001 and 2003 by reconciliation.
The GOP chose not to have anything to do with Health Care reform. They chose not to sit at the table to which they were invited.
Forget? Methinks some are liars and some have been brain washed by the liars from the Ministry of Truth.
And some people are simply stupid. Like you, cocksucker.
The bush tax cuts were so unpopular they were extended by a solid Democrat majority in Congress and signed by Barack Obama.
They should fund it because it's the law. If they don't like it, change the law. Don't unilaterally decide which laws should be supported and which laws should be cut.
The GOP is behaving like babies who are throwing a tantrum because they failed to repeal a law they don't like. Kind of explains why Cruz was quoting Dr. Seuss though.
you don't have to fund a law moron
see checks and balances
The system of checks and balances do not extend to existing laws. No single body of government should have so much power that they get to unilaterally decide which laws should be effectively terminated by defunding them.
In fact, your reference to "checks and balances" is being abrogated by the House in their attempt to defund a law because they don't like it. The reason we have a system of checks and balances is to prevent any one body of government from exercising too much power. Now you're defending one body which is attempting to do just that.
Forget? Methinks some are liars and some have been brain washed by the liars from the Ministry of Truth.
And some people are simply stupid. Like you, cocksucker.
The bush tax cuts were so unpopular they were extended by a solid Democrat majority in Congress and signed by Barack Obama.
As a result of the previous hostage crisis the tax cuts were extended. The GOP was willing to throw the unemployed out on the street, the President was not.
Ok, so you don't know that GDP and unemployment are the leading indicators of the economy. GDP 4 years ago was negative 2.8%. It's up 1.6% during the previous year. Employment is up by 4.2 million jobs over the last 4 years and the unemployment rate has dropped from 9.5% to 7.3%. The workforce participation rate is lower in large part to those who choose not to work. This includes baby boomers who retire, students who choose school over work, and people who choose government handouts over work.The economy is doing better today than it was 4 years ago. Republicans can't handle that, so they are trying to wreck it. Last time they attempted a stunt like this, it led to a down grade in the U.S. credit rating.The Dems have had control of Congress for 4 years, Congress and the Presidency for two, The presidency and the senate for 4. How is the economy the fault of the GOP?
Just think how strong America would be if the GOP loved the United States more than they loved their party?
No that is not correct. Household income is lower today than 4 years ago. Household wealth is lower today than 4 years ago. Welfare and other public assistance is higher today than 4 years ago. Workforce participation is lower than 4 years ago.
Your ignorance is noted, but the downgrade was actually the result of a dysfunctional government and their inability to work together in developing a plan to tackle the debt problem.The downgrade came from the reckless spending policies of Obama&Co.
The GOP does not love America more than they love their party and ideology. In their utopia, Conservative values should be imposed on all of America and they are trying to take America in that direction even at the cost of our economy and our way of life.The GOP does love America. They are not the ones getting played by the Russians, Syrians, and now Iranians. They are not apologizing to America. They are not proposing and enacting measures that have destroyed this economy. That would be the Dems.
you don't have to fund a law moron
see checks and balances
The system of checks and balances do not extend to existing laws. No single body of government should have so much power that they get to unilaterally decide which laws should be effectively terminated by defunding them.
In fact, your reference to "checks and balances" is being abrogated by the House in their attempt to defund a law because they don't like it. The reason we have a system of checks and balances is to prevent any one body of government from exercising too much power. Now you're defending one body which is attempting to do just that.
Who the fuck told you that?.
Each of the two Houses of Congress exists for that very reason.
There is nothing unilateral about that. Not a damned thing.
To write, debate and vote on legislation.
You may believe laws are written in stone. They are not.
Laws can become outdated, obsolete, thought to be unjust or no longer popular.
The process is codified by the balance of having TWO houses of legislation.
This keeps the potential of the tyranny of the majority in check.
You can take your low IQ low information ass back to where ever it was before you decided to open your yapper.
This is no place for you. You are not very good at this.
Why is it that most of the uninformed such as yourself are liberals?
Ok, so you don't know that GDP and unemployment are the leading indicators of the economy. GDP 4 years ago was negative 2.8%. It's up 1.6% during the previous year. Employment is up by 4.2 million jobs over the last 4 years and the unemployment rate has dropped from 9.5% to 7.3%. The workforce participation rate is lower in large part to those who choose not to work. This includes baby boomers who retire, students who choose school over work, and people who choose government handouts over work.The economy is doing better today than it was 4 years ago. Republicans can't handle that, so they are trying to wreck it. Last time they attempted a stunt like this, it led to a down grade in the U.S. credit rating.
Just think how strong America would be if the GOP loved the United States more than they loved their party?
No that is not correct. Household income is lower today than 4 years ago. Household wealth is lower today than 4 years ago. Welfare and other public assistance is higher today than 4 years ago. Workforce participation is lower than 4 years ago.
Your ignorance is noted, but the downgrade was actually the result of a dysfunctional government and their inability to work together in developing a plan to tackle the debt problem.The downgrade came from the reckless spending policies of Obama&Co.
The GOP does not love America more than they love their party and ideology. In their utopia, Conservative values should be imposed on all of America and they are trying to take America in that direction even at the cost of our economy and our way of life.The GOP does love America. They are not the ones getting played by the Russians, Syrians, and now Iranians. They are not apologizing to America. They are not proposing and enacting measures that have destroyed this economy. That would be the Dems.
All true. But incomplete.The system of checks and balances do not extend to existing laws. No single body of government should have so much power that they get to unilaterally decide which laws should be effectively terminated by defunding them.
In fact, your reference to "checks and balances" is being abrogated by the House in their attempt to defund a law because they don't like it. The reason we have a system of checks and balances is to prevent any one body of government from exercising too much power. Now you're defending one body which is attempting to do just that.
Who the fuck told you that?.
Each of the two Houses of Congress exists for that very reason.
There is nothing unilateral about that. Not a damned thing.
To write, debate and vote on legislation.
You may believe laws are written in stone. They are not.
Laws can become outdated, obsolete, thought to be unjust or no longer popular.
The process is codified by the balance of having TWO houses of legislation.
This keeps the potential of the tyranny of the majority in check.
You can take your low IQ low information ass back to where ever it was before you decided to open your yapper.
This is no place for you. You are not very good at this.
Why is it that most of the uninformed such as yourself are liberals?
Holy shit!
Here's a civics lesson for you...
Checks and Balances of the Legislative Branch
The Legislative Branch is given the powers to make the laws. It has the following checks over the Executive Branch:
May override presidential vetoes with a two-thirds vote
Has the power over the purse strings to actually fund any executive actions
May remove the president through impeachment
Senate approves treaties
Senate approves presidential appointments
The Legislative Branch has the following checks over the Judicial Branch:
Creates lower courts
May remove judges through impeachment
Senate approves appointments of judges
Checks and Balances of the Executive Branch
The Executive Branch is given the power to carry out the laws. It has the following checks over the Legislative Branch:
Veto power
Ability to call special sessions of Congress
Can recommend legislation
Can appeal to the people concerning legislation and more
The Executive Branch has the following checks over the Judicial Branch:
President appoints Supreme Court and other federal judges
Checks and Balances of the Judicial Branch
The Judicial Branch is given the power to interpret the laws. It has the following checks over the Executive Branch:
Judges, once appointed for life, are free from controls from the executive branch
Courts can judge executive actions to be unconstitutional through the power of judicial review
The Judicial Branch has the following checks over the Legislative Branch:
Courts can judge legislative acts to be unconstitutional.
Checks and Balances - American System of Checks and Balances
Hopefully, even you can recognize that description doesn't include bills passed by both chambers of the Congress and signed into law by the president.
It's designed to prevent any one body of government from strong-arming the law. Not to offer a body the opportunity to abolish an existing law they don't like but failed to repeal through the legislative process.
Can't?...Ok...But the dems are the ones who refuse to negotiate. Obama said that himself. So did Reid.faun, you're dumb
the legislative branch does indeed hold the purse strings, hence, they do not have to fund something
They can't repeal ObamaCare. They don't have the votes.
holding up all other govt. funding because of that, is treasonous.
faun, you're dumb
the legislative branch does indeed hold the purse strings, hence, they do not have to fund something
Can't?...Ok...But the dems are the ones who refuse to negotiate. Obama said that himself. So did Reid.
The dems are the ones who will shut down government.
The House gave the Senate a CR that funds all sectors of government except for ACA.
ACA is a vastly unpopular law and the House is doing its duty to address that.
