Right wing militia detains 200 migrants at gun point on New Mexico!! HELL YEAH!

[Correll]

When you open with claiming the President of the United States has "unity of ideology" with an actual, real, klansman, you lose TONS of credibility.

You are out of your damn mind. Both Duke and Trump belonged to the Reform Party at the same time. They believe in the same things. I won't lie to you or for you thinking it has an effect on credibility.

Trump says that some of the Charlottesville protesters were "good people." They were some good people there. To claim that there is no unity of ideology is a straight out lie. David Duke worked behind the scenes to make sure Trump got enough electoral votes in several states.

Publicly, it's cool to denounce one another and pretend we're all enemies. But, there are common interests and only idiots refuse a guaranteed vote. Politicians trash talk each other, but once it's over it's like George Bush agreeing to be Reagan's VP.

The Nazis, white supremacists, conservatives, white separatists, Tea Party, Reform Party, etc. may all have a common interest. They will work together to get what they want. In the instant case, the Nazis came out on top for whatever reason. They want what Correll wants. And I couldn't care less if all the foreigners packed their rags and caught the next train, plane, bus, or van heading out of the United States. My beef with them is not that they care about the culture of this country, but that they deny OUR ownership in the status quo and that we cannot fix the problem with the Nazis solutions. Plausible deniablility, the trash talk like pro - wrestlers, and pretending to be offended by us admitting what the left already knows is not necessary any longer. Without the Nazis and white supremacists, Trump would be cooling his heels in his mansion and Hitlery would be prez.

Don't shit yourself people. It's not the size of the wave; it's the motion of the ocean. I learned this while a lobbyist with the NRA. They would have 3 million members and only 3400 people who actually made the decisions. The wall issue is the same deal - but the head monkeys running the propaganda machine are Nazis... and I do not agree with forfeiting my God given, unalienable Rights for the faulty promise that a wall can save us from our own actions.

1. Many of the Charlottesville people were there to protest the removal of historical statues. There is no reason to think that there were NOT good people. Trump furthermore specifically stated that when he said that, he was NOT talking about the white supremacists. That you cite this as evidence of him sharing ideology with DUke, shows that you are the one who has been duped.


2. DUke might have worked on that. He had no effect. White supremacy is a long dead political force in this country.

3. Mainstream political parties and grassroots movements do NOT work together with or have common interests with Nazis.


4. Explain "thy deny our ownership in the status quo".

5. Nazi have no impact.

I can't figure out if you're that stupid or that dishonest

1) Plausible deniability

2) Everybody that expends any effort has an impact. You've admitted that you are not a researcher, so you should leave the facts to people who HAVE experience

3) Even YOU have the same common interests with Nazis. If you had to make an argument for the wall and you were forbidden to quote any statistic related to John Tanton, you would have little more than your weenie in your hand. Shall I begin repeating the ties between Nazis, Republicans, the Tea Party and the wall idea? Just because you can't read it don't mean the facts don't exist

4) Damn son. How many times do you want to cover the same ground? Are you REALLY that fucking stupid? We just did this once today and many more times in the past. Stay tuned - we can keep repeating it. It isn't going to change and you won't know until you read the thread

5) Nazis had a big impact on your dumb ass. You're one of them and too stupid to recognize it

Okay, here is the proof - YET AGAIN

1. Nope. Makes complete sense to distinguish between the white supremacists and those legitimately concerned about historical statues. What is dishonest is people like you, lumping the two groups together as though they are one.

2. NOt really. Some fringe guy who speaks for a few thousand people, maybe, in a nation of over 300 million, has no impact. Lost in the noise. Out weighted by people too drunk to pull the right lever.

3. I've ridiculed your game of Kevin Bacon to death. If you want to go back to that, I can do it some more. I don't mind beating a dead horse. But, my point stands. Mainstream political parties and grassroots movements do NOT work together with or have common interests with Nazis.

4. Save the histrionics and insults for someone that might be impressed by them. My question stands. Explain "thy deny our ownership in the status quo".

5. Blah, blah, blah, nazi. Blah, blah blah, blah, stupid. Your inability to support your claim is noted. We can drop this now, or I can point that out some more. Your choice.

1) You hang with Nazis. Trying to claim otherwise is dishonest and dishonorable. You could disavow the strategies and solutions, but choose not to. That is hypocritical and dishonest

2) You are uneducated as they come. If voting could change things, it would be illegal. It's not large groups that wield power. That is what you fail to comprehend... though you hang with shitsacks (and then bad mouth them when you don't have plausible deniability

3) You can beat a dead horse, but what you believe in is National Socialism

4) DONE and got your number ... even with you using two profiles, you're no match for me. Your denials do not refute the truth.

1. We were discussing you repeating the lie that the President said that some nazis are fine people. You conveniently got confused on that.... Your confusions like that, often seen to occur at such convenient times. That your confusion led to you simply calling me nazi, is very telling. You need to stop this bullshit.


2. So, which is it? Are nazis a "large group" that put Trump into power? Or does "voting not change anything"? You are all over the place, not making much sense. You do keep on message when it comes to being insulting though. FUnny how that works.


3. Save the histrionics and insults for someone that might be impressed by them. My question stands. Explain "thy deny our ownership in the status quo". You did not answer that. YOu did stay on message with your insults though. Funny how you never lose THAT thread.


4. Blah, blah, blah, nazi. Blah, blah blah, blah, stupid. Your inability to support your claim is noted. We can drop this now, or I can point that out some more. Your choice. And again, you ignore the point but stay on message with the insults.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You are out of your damn mind. Both Duke and Trump belonged to the Reform Party at the same time. They believe in the same things. I won't lie to you or for you thinking it has an effect on credibility.

Trump says that some of the Charlottesville protesters were "good people." They were some good people there. To claim that there is no unity of ideology is a straight out lie. David Duke worked behind the scenes to make sure Trump got enough electoral votes in several states.

Publicly, it's cool to denounce one another and pretend we're all enemies. But, there are common interests and only idiots refuse a guaranteed vote. Politicians trash talk each other, but once it's over it's like George Bush agreeing to be Reagan's VP.

The Nazis, white supremacists, conservatives, white separatists, Tea Party, Reform Party, etc. may all have a common interest. They will work together to get what they want. In the instant case, the Nazis came out on top for whatever reason. They want what Correll wants. And I couldn't care less if all the foreigners packed their rags and caught the next train, plane, bus, or van heading out of the United States. My beef with them is not that they care about the culture of this country, but that they deny OUR ownership in the status quo and that we cannot fix the problem with the Nazis solutions. Plausible deniablility, the trash talk like pro - wrestlers, and pretending to be offended by us admitting what the left already knows is not necessary any longer. Without the Nazis and white supremacists, Trump would be cooling his heels in his mansion and Hitlery would be prez.

Don't shit yourself people. It's not the size of the wave; it's the motion of the ocean. I learned this while a lobbyist with the NRA. They would have 3 million members and only 3400 people who actually made the decisions. The wall issue is the same deal - but the head monkeys running the propaganda machine are Nazis... and I do not agree with forfeiting my God given, unalienable Rights for the faulty promise that a wall can save us from our own actions.

1. Many of the Charlottesville people were there to protest the removal of historical statues. There is no reason to think that there were NOT good people. Trump furthermore specifically stated that when he said that, he was NOT talking about the white supremacists. That you cite this as evidence of him sharing ideology with DUke, shows that you are the one who has been duped.


2. DUke might have worked on that. He had no effect. White supremacy is a long dead political force in this country.

3. Mainstream political parties and grassroots movements do NOT work together with or have common interests with Nazis.


4. Explain "thy deny our ownership in the status quo".

5. Nazi have no impact.

I can't figure out if you're that stupid or that dishonest

1) Plausible deniability

2) Everybody that expends any effort has an impact. You've admitted that you are not a researcher, so you should leave the facts to people who HAVE experience

3) Even YOU have the same common interests with Nazis. If you had to make an argument for the wall and you were forbidden to quote any statistic related to John Tanton, you would have little more than your weenie in your hand. Shall I begin repeating the ties between Nazis, Republicans, the Tea Party and the wall idea? Just because you can't read it don't mean the facts don't exist

4) Damn son. How many times do you want to cover the same ground? Are you REALLY that fucking stupid? We just did this once today and many more times in the past. Stay tuned - we can keep repeating it. It isn't going to change and you won't know until you read the thread

5) Nazis had a big impact on your dumb ass. You're one of them and too stupid to recognize it

Okay, here is the proof - YET AGAIN

1. Nope. Makes complete sense to distinguish between the white supremacists and those legitimately concerned about historical statues. What is dishonest is people like you, lumping the two groups together as though they are one.

2. NOt really. Some fringe guy who speaks for a few thousand people, maybe, in a nation of over 300 million, has no impact. Lost in the noise. Out weighted by people too drunk to pull the right lever.

3. I've ridiculed your game of Kevin Bacon to death. If you want to go back to that, I can do it some more. I don't mind beating a dead horse. But, my point stands. Mainstream political parties and grassroots movements do NOT work together with or have common interests with Nazis.

4. Save the histrionics and insults for someone that might be impressed by them. My question stands. Explain "thy deny our ownership in the status quo".

5. Blah, blah, blah, nazi. Blah, blah blah, blah, stupid. Your inability to support your claim is noted. We can drop this now, or I can point that out some more. Your choice.

1) You hang with Nazis. Trying to claim otherwise is dishonest and dishonorable. You could disavow the strategies and solutions, but choose not to. That is hypocritical and dishonest

2) You are uneducated as they come. If voting could change things, it would be illegal. It's not large groups that wield power. That is what you fail to comprehend... though you hang with shitsacks (and then bad mouth them when you don't have plausible deniability

3) You can beat a dead horse, but what you believe in is National Socialism

4) DONE and got your number ... even with you using two profiles, you're no match for me. Your denials do not refute the truth.

1. We were discussing you repeating the lie that the President said that some nazis are fine people. You conveniently got confused on that.... Your confusions like that, often seen to occur at such convenient times. That your confusion led to you simply calling me nazi, is very telling. You need to stop this bullshit.


2. So, which is it? Are nazis a "large group" that put Trump into power? Or does "voting not change anything"? You are all over the place, not making much sense. You do keep on message when it comes to being insulting though. FUnny how that works.


3. Save the histrionics and insults for someone that might be impressed by them. My question stands. Explain "thy deny our ownership in the status quo". You did not answer that. YOu did stay on message with your insults though. Funny how you never lose THAT thread.


4. Blah, blah, blah, nazi. Blah, blah blah, blah, stupid. Your inability to support your claim is noted. We can drop this now, or I can point that out some more. Your choice. And again, you ignore the point but stay on message with the insults.

1) If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and has webbed feet... however you define yourself is on you. But you are knowingly supporting the policies of Nazis. That is a fact. Period

2) I've NEVER said the Nazis were a numerically powerful force. You just keep avoid reading what I did say. John Tanton, a real pro-Nazi funded at least a dozen non - profits like Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), NumbersUSA, etc. Those think tanks and Political Action Committees are largely funded by ONE man and promoted by a very small number of organizations. BUT, their propaganda constitutes 98 percent of your talking points and you dismiss any other solution

3) You're lying again and in post # 1434 it fairly lists the failures that people such as yourself will not address. If America were not the drug capital of the world, there would be no need to create drug cartels from south of the border. If those drug addicts were not in jail, prison, on probation / parole, drawing welfare, or being judged for their past criminal history, they might be able to get a job (with some incentives and help from volunteers,... like you, presuming you can give up posting every day.) If all that happened, they would be working and if there were no available jobs, there would be no need for foreigners to come here

4) I don't have to insult you. You're an insult to yourself. Anybody with an IQ higher than their shoe size can see that I've provided INDISPUTABLE FACTS. These are facts, by your own admission, you haven't read. You're just pounding your chest, lying and refusing to accept the truth for what it is. But, let's start over just in case you lost your place. Let us start at the beginning...

 

[Porter Rockwell]

A repeat of the FACTS

David Duke organizes Border Watch in 1977:

That time David Duke and KKK patrolled the Mexican border…

David Duke and Donald Trump both belonged to the Reform Party at the same time, which demonstrates a unity of ideology:

“Duke joined the Reform Party in 1999 while working for Pat Buchanan's 2000 presidential campaign”

David Duke - Wikipedia

“Donald Trump's presidential campaign of 2000 for the nomination of the Reform Party began when real estate magnate Donald Trump of New Yorkannounced the creation of a presidential exploratory committee on the October 8, 1999 edition of Larry King Live”

Donald Trump 2000 presidential campaign - Wikipedia

The Real David Duke This info will become very important to the subject



Trump plays stupid and tries to deny his ideological ties to white supremacy:

Trump dodges on David Duke question: ' I know nothing about white supremacists'Trump dodges on David Duke question: ' I know nothing about white supremacists'

Jim Gilchrist, a former newsman and Chris Simcox become the fathers of the “Secure the border / monitor (sic) the flow of Undocumented immigrants effort:

“The Minuteman Project was a vigilante organization started in August 2004[1] by a group of private individuals in the United States to extrajudicially monitor the United States – Mexico border's flow of Undocumented immigrants.[2] Founded by Jim Gilchrist and Chris Simcox,..”

Minuteman Project - Wikipedia


Today, the founder of the wallist religion is proudly displaying his ties to the Tea Party publicly:


Jim Gilchrist's Page


So, who is Jim Gilchrist?

Jim Gilchrist is a former newsman, left of center, who is politically a National Socialist. His views are palatable enough so that Bernie Sanders once voted to Gilchrist’s benefit:

Julian Castro claims Bernie Sanders voted with Republicans to protect a hate group

The top lieutenants of his “Minuteman Project” were exposed as being neo – Nazis and even murderers.

Co-founder Chris Simcox Gilchrist’s most trusted friend) was proven to be both a pedophile as well as a nazi:



Ex-Minuteman Chris Simcox sentenced to 19.5 years in child sex-abuse case


Chris Simcox befriended J.T. Ready who was also mainstream Republican that, on the surface only wanted to fight so – called “illegal immigration,” but was, in reality, a neo-nazi that ended up committing a mass murder before committing suicide:

“Jason Todd "J. T." Ready (February 17, 1973[1][2] – May 2, 2012) was a former American Marine, founder and leader of a border militia group[3]and a former member of the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement

J. T. Ready - Wikipedia


Gilchrist was a very cunning politician type (learning lessons from his newsman days) so he would deny knowing his own officers when they got into trouble. An article I read had this to say in response to one of Gilchrist’s false claims that he knew one of his own top officers “briefly”:

“Well, one of those "brief meetings" with {Shawna}Forde involved a big public Minuteman rally organized by Forde in Everett, Washington, back in 2006, about the same time Forde was appearing onstage representing the Minutemen in public-TV forums, too. Gilchrist was the star attraction at the Everett rally, and he and Forde praised each other onstage.

In an earlier report, moreover, Steller pointed out that Gilchrist was up to his ankles in communicating with Forde right up to the point of her arrest -- and in fact appears to have tried to tip her off that federal authorities were looking for her:



Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project and an early leader of the movement, said last week that he donated $200 to a member of Forde's group, that he called Forde a few days after the murders as investigators closed in, and that his group removed postings by and about Forde from its Web site after the arrests. But he called Forde and her associates "rogues," and denied that he or his group had a formal relationship with her.”

Orcinus: Minuteman leader Jim Gilchrist's ties to Shawna Forde's gang of killers finally catch up with him


“Formal relationship?” Shawna Forde was one of his top organizers! And he had a lot of faith in her:

Jim Gilchrist Speaks on Shawna - Justice for Shawna Forde

Evidently, Minutemen Founder Gilchrist Doesn't Like Us

Shawna Forde was convicted of the murder of a nine year old and her father:

Shawna Forde Guilty of Murder: Exclusive Interview with Arizona Minuteman

Also see this:

5 of Arizona's Most Notorious Racists and Their Crimes

Shawna Forde’s co-conspirator, Jason Bush, was a carbon copy of the kinds of people Gilchrist attracted:

“… Bush was also charged for the murder of a Latino man in Washington state in 1997, and in the murder of an Aryan Nations member he considered to be a “race-traitor”…”

The meltdown of the anti-immigration Minuteman militia


Gilchrist knows how to hide the National Socialist trimmings and then deny those who embarrass the effort. Make no mistake. Jim Gilchrist and Chris Simcox are the founding fathers of the wallist religion – where the wall and so – called “illegal immigration” are the ONLY topics they have any concern with. What are the odds that all the founders of the wallist religion ARE proven Nazis and their followers are not? Then again, that might not be a rhetorical question as I’ve been reading that right now is the first time in history where more people without an education are supporting the Republicans than are supporting them.


Be that as it may, the DADDY of the wallist religion IS a Tea Party member:

Jim Gilchrist's Page

Jim Gilchrist: Illegal Alien Children Being Used As Political Human Shields - Tea Party News


THE IDEOLOGY

The major organizations / think tanks were founded and funded by a single individual by the name of John Tanton. According to Wikipedia:

John H. Tanton (born February 23, 1934)[1] is an American retired ophthalmologist and activist in efforts aimed at reducing immigration levels in the United States. He was the founder and first chairman of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), an anti-immigration organization. He was chairman of U.S. English and ProEnglish. He is the founder of The Social Contract Press, which publishes the quarterly journal The Social Contract. He founded the pro-eugenics organization Society for Genetic Education.

“FAIR, CIS and NumbersUSA are all part of a network of restrictionist organizations conceived and created by John Tanton, the "puppeteer" of the nativist movement and a man with deep racist roots. As the first article in this report shows, Tanton has for decades been at the heart of the white nationalist scene. He has met with leading white supremacists and associated closely with the leaders of a eugenicist foundation once described by a leading newspaper as a "neo-Nazi organization." He has made a series of racist statements about Latinos and worried that they were outbreeding whites. At one point, he wrote candidly that to maintain American culture, "a European-American majority" is required.”[25]

John Tanton - Wikipedia


So, here is the man responsible for the think tanks and the rhetoric that is generated relative to the wallist religion. But what, exactly is eugenics? I’d be a long time explaining it, but Wikipedia did a balanced article on it, so check it out:

Eugenics in the United States - Wikipedia


I only want to point out that the Rockefellers helped finance eugenics research… and the Rockefellers were all about the NEW WORLD ORDER / One World Government. It’s kind of hard to connect the dots until you figure out how the NEW WORLD ORDER types help finance both sides so that they can take each other out liberals v conservatives, right v left, Constitutionalists v National Socialists, etc. But, I digress. Now that I’ve spent over 15 years spreading my research about the David Duke – John Tanton ideologies (and Tanton supplied Duke his talking points back in the 1970s) other researchers have taken note:

Calling Former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke's Bluff


A Look at the Forces Behind the Anti-Immigrant Movement | Democracy Now!

A John Tanton Connect the Dots « American Border Patrol « Immigration « The Pink Flamingo

Team Trump's ties to white supremacy are even deeper than you imagined

https://splinternews.com/the-eugenicist-doctor-and-the-vast-fortune-behind-trump-1827322435


NOTE: It is unfortunate that I have to cite the left, but the Tea Party is never going to admit to who pioneered their political rhetoric. They also make the links to Nazism. Again, I am not getting into the fray over racial issues. I disagree with the current power structure because I oppose National Socialism. And the fact that the right’s think tanks are owned by a guy into eugenics and is pro-abortion signal significant differences of opinion between he and I.


The proposed solutions to the immigration debacle as adopted by those in the Tea Party are National Socialist NOT those of a constitutionalist group

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Correll continues to claim that I've not answered his questions. It must be projection on his part. For we are talking about our legal options - it's how the OP frames this thread. Correll challenged me and he's been reminded of WHERE he was duly responded to. Now let us see if Correll can tell you ANYTHING about the Rule of Law. Let's repeat this post that Correll has failed to answer:

Since Correll keeps typing and ignoring my challenges, I will keep repeating them:

America has had foreigners regulated since the Mayflower hit the shores of the New World in 1620. However, this process has been done by different levels of government at different times. From your own article:

"The federal government assumed control of immigration on April 18, 1890"

Here are the serious questions for you Correll:

A) Where, in the Constitution, does the federal government have the authority to tell the states who can and cannot come to that respective state?

B) PRIOR to 1890 the federal government did not have control over immigration. Obviously if someone were regulating the flow of foreigners and it was not the federal government, somebody did it for that period between 1789 and 1890 A FULL CENTURY OF REGULATION WITHOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY YOUR OWN LINK!

C) HOW did the federal government, after a century end up controlling the flow of foreigners? Which Amendment changed that?

 

[Correll]

AMERICANS OWNERSHIP IN THE STATUS QUO OF IMMIGRATION

Let's just do the top 10 so as to not confuse Koshergirl / Correll

1) America has more prisoners than any nation on this planet

2) Americans consume over 80 percent of the world's opioid supply

3) Over half of all federal prisoners are in prison on drug related charges

4) American children are prescribed Ritalin at a ratio of 3 to 1 over countries like the U.K.

5) With the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify, many Americans are locked out of the job market - and many times for irrelevant B.S. that the general public should NOT be allowed to access

6) Too many mommies think their children are special so you see guys in their 20s, 30s, 40s and beyond living in mommy's house and NOT contributing to society in any way, shape, fashion or form

7) Millions upon millions of Americans are functional illiterates (my critics have admitted they are)

8) Over half of the American people are dependent upon the government for at least a portion of their daily bread

9) Scores of these illiterates support socialist ideology that violates a person's Right to Privacy, their presumption of innocence, and the illiterates think that the private sector owes them a job

10) By complaining about people (and doing so dishonestly) not paying taxes, it is supporting the income tax - which is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.

Pill popping, tattooed, body pierced people with no education, no job skills, a drug habit and a criminal record (that the wallists like Correll want you to have for life) absolutely guarantees that you are virtually unemployable.

Compare to that some foreign kid in his 20s that is fit and ready to work. He has a couple of kids and a mortgage to pay for. Who the Hell do the wallists think the employer is going to hire?

Americans have the right to AMERICAN polices that serve the interests of AMERICANS.


That the lowest dregs of American society have trouble competing against the best that the Turd World has to offer, is a valid point.


But if our policies prevent those Third Worlders, from being IN our labor market, then that gives a chance for those "pill popping, tattooed, body pierced people" to get some job skills and turn their screwed up lives around.


Your point about the criminal records is valid. Employers are so terrified of being sued on discrimination charges, that they go the paper trail more than the actual candidate, imo.

* Americans do have the Right to American policies that serve their interests. That is why we have private property Rights

* The lowest dregs of society are WHY you have an influx of foreigners to fill the jobs they cannot or will not work AND to fill the jobs YOU would deny to them with those endless background checks wherein Americans can never rise above their past

* Employers will not hire the dregs of society at inflated wages and be dictated to by a tyrannical government. If you don't believe that, check to see how much communist China has grown over the last 15 or so years compared to the United States.

* It's sad to say, but it is easier to get into communist China than the U.S. - that is if you want in the U.S. with human registration papers

The right to American policies that serve their interests is not supported by the Property Rights but by voting, and having the elected representatives representing their interests.


Employers WILL hire Americans, at hirer wages, if they are the only ones available. AS WE ARE SEEING HAPPENING MORE AND MORE NOW.


THe Americans we are talking about, are not bad people. They don't need or deserve being punished. You give them a chance and the vast majority of them will be able to benefit from it.

And that is a good thing for them, and for America as a whole.

 

[Correll]

1. Many of the Charlottesville people were there to protest the removal of historical statues. There is no reason to think that there were NOT good people. Trump furthermore specifically stated that when he said that, he was NOT talking about the white supremacists. That you cite this as evidence of him sharing ideology with DUke, shows that you are the one who has been duped.


2. DUke might have worked on that. He had no effect. White supremacy is a long dead political force in this country.

3. Mainstream political parties and grassroots movements do NOT work together with or have common interests with Nazis.


4. Explain "thy deny our ownership in the status quo".

5. Nazi have no impact.

I can't figure out if you're that stupid or that dishonest

1) Plausible deniability

2) Everybody that expends any effort has an impact. You've admitted that you are not a researcher, so you should leave the facts to people who HAVE experience

3) Even YOU have the same common interests with Nazis. If you had to make an argument for the wall and you were forbidden to quote any statistic related to John Tanton, you would have little more than your weenie in your hand. Shall I begin repeating the ties between Nazis, Republicans, the Tea Party and the wall idea? Just because you can't read it don't mean the facts don't exist

4) Damn son. How many times do you want to cover the same ground? Are you REALLY that fucking stupid? We just did this once today and many more times in the past. Stay tuned - we can keep repeating it. It isn't going to change and you won't know until you read the thread

5) Nazis had a big impact on your dumb ass. You're one of them and too stupid to recognize it

Okay, here is the proof - YET AGAIN

1. Nope. Makes complete sense to distinguish between the white supremacists and those legitimately concerned about historical statues. What is dishonest is people like you, lumping the two groups together as though they are one.

2. NOt really. Some fringe guy who speaks for a few thousand people, maybe, in a nation of over 300 million, has no impact. Lost in the noise. Out weighted by people too drunk to pull the right lever.

3. I've ridiculed your game of Kevin Bacon to death. If you want to go back to that, I can do it some more. I don't mind beating a dead horse. But, my point stands. Mainstream political parties and grassroots movements do NOT work together with or have common interests with Nazis.

4. Save the histrionics and insults for someone that might be impressed by them. My question stands. Explain "thy deny our ownership in the status quo".

5. Blah, blah, blah, nazi. Blah, blah blah, blah, stupid. Your inability to support your claim is noted. We can drop this now, or I can point that out some more. Your choice.

1) You hang with Nazis. Trying to claim otherwise is dishonest and dishonorable. You could disavow the strategies and solutions, but choose not to. That is hypocritical and dishonest

2) You are uneducated as they come. If voting could change things, it would be illegal. It's not large groups that wield power. That is what you fail to comprehend... though you hang with shitsacks (and then bad mouth them when you don't have plausible deniability

3) You can beat a dead horse, but what you believe in is National Socialism

4) DONE and got your number ... even with you using two profiles, you're no match for me. Your denials do not refute the truth.

1. We were discussing you repeating the lie that the President said that some nazis are fine people. You conveniently got confused on that.... Your confusions like that, often seen to occur at such convenient times. That your confusion led to you simply calling me nazi, is very telling. You need to stop this bullshit.


2. So, which is it? Are nazis a "large group" that put Trump into power? Or does "voting not change anything"? You are all over the place, not making much sense. You do keep on message when it comes to being insulting though. FUnny how that works.


3. Save the histrionics and insults for someone that might be impressed by them. My question stands. Explain "thy deny our ownership in the status quo". You did not answer that. YOu did stay on message with your insults though. Funny how you never lose THAT thread.


4. Blah, blah, blah, nazi. Blah, blah blah, blah, stupid. Your inability to support your claim is noted. We can drop this now, or I can point that out some more. Your choice. And again, you ignore the point but stay on message with the insults.

1) If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and has webbed feet... however you define yourself is on you. But you are knowingly supporting the policies of Nazis. That is a fact. Period

2) I've NEVER said the Nazis were a numerically powerful force. You just keep avoid reading what I did say. John Tanton, a real pro-Nazi funded at least a dozen non - profits like Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), NumbersUSA, etc. Those think tanks and Political Action Committees are largely funded by ONE man and promoted by a very small number of organizations. BUT, their propaganda constitutes 98 percent of your talking points and you dismiss any other solution

3) You're lying again and in post # 1434 it fairly lists the failures that people such as yourself will not address. If America were not the drug capital of the world, there would be no need to create drug cartels from south of the border. If those drug addicts were not in jail, prison, on probation / parole, drawing welfare, or being judged for their past criminal history, they might be able to get a job (with some incentives and help from volunteers,... like you, presuming you can give up posting every day.) If all that happened, they would be working and if there were no available jobs, there would be no need for foreigners to come here

4) I don't have to insult you. You're an insult to yourself. Anybody with an IQ higher than their shoe size can see that I've provided INDISPUTABLE FACTS. These are facts, by your own admission, you haven't read. You're just pounding your chest, lying and refusing to accept the truth for what it is. But, let's start over just in case you lost your place. Let us start at the beginning...

1. Walking like a duck, in this case, would be launching wars of conquest and genocide, not saying something nice about some people who like historical statues. So, that is you being very, very wrong. And unfair, AND rude.


2. Calling my points, "propaganda" nor making up shit about where you think I got the ideas, is not an counter argument, it is just you being a jerk.

3. Whoa, that is an interesting response. So, somehow in your mind, that we have internal problems, that means we don't have the right to immigration policy? Walk me though that more slowly.

4. Blah, blah, blah, no insult you. Blah, blah, blah, insult you.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

AMERICANS OWNERSHIP IN THE STATUS QUO OF IMMIGRATION

Let's just do the top 10 so as to not confuse Koshergirl / Correll

1) America has more prisoners than any nation on this planet

2) Americans consume over 80 percent of the world's opioid supply

3) Over half of all federal prisoners are in prison on drug related charges

4) American children are prescribed Ritalin at a ratio of 3 to 1 over countries like the U.K.

5) With the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify, many Americans are locked out of the job market - and many times for irrelevant B.S. that the general public should NOT be allowed to access

6) Too many mommies think their children are special so you see guys in their 20s, 30s, 40s and beyond living in mommy's house and NOT contributing to society in any way, shape, fashion or form

7) Millions upon millions of Americans are functional illiterates (my critics have admitted they are)

8) Over half of the American people are dependent upon the government for at least a portion of their daily bread

9) Scores of these illiterates support socialist ideology that violates a person's Right to Privacy, their presumption of innocence, and the illiterates think that the private sector owes them a job

10) By complaining about people (and doing so dishonestly) not paying taxes, it is supporting the income tax - which is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.

Pill popping, tattooed, body pierced people with no education, no job skills, a drug habit and a criminal record (that the wallists like Correll want you to have for life) absolutely guarantees that you are virtually unemployable.

Compare to that some foreign kid in his 20s that is fit and ready to work. He has a couple of kids and a mortgage to pay for. Who the Hell do the wallists think the employer is going to hire?

Americans have the right to AMERICAN polices that serve the interests of AMERICANS.


That the lowest dregs of American society have trouble competing against the best that the Turd World has to offer, is a valid point.


But if our policies prevent those Third Worlders, from being IN our labor market, then that gives a chance for those "pill popping, tattooed, body pierced people" to get some job skills and turn their screwed up lives around.


Your point about the criminal records is valid. Employers are so terrified of being sued on discrimination charges, that they go the paper trail more than the actual candidate, imo.

* Americans do have the Right to American policies that serve their interests. That is why we have private property Rights

* The lowest dregs of society are WHY you have an influx of foreigners to fill the jobs they cannot or will not work AND to fill the jobs YOU would deny to them with those endless background checks wherein Americans can never rise above their past

* Employers will not hire the dregs of society at inflated wages and be dictated to by a tyrannical government. If you don't believe that, check to see how much communist China has grown over the last 15 or so years compared to the United States.

* It's sad to say, but it is easier to get into communist China than the U.S. - that is if you want in the U.S. with human registration papers

The right to American policies that serve their interests is not supported by the Property Rights but by voting, and having the elected representatives representing their interests.


Employers WILL hire Americans, at hirer wages, if they are the only ones available. AS WE ARE SEEING HAPPENING MORE AND MORE NOW.


THe Americans we are talking about, are not bad people. They don't need or deserve being punished. You give them a chance and the vast majority of them will be able to benefit from it.

And that is a good thing for them, and for America as a whole.

If that made you feel good, I'm glad for you. The people locked out of the job market are the ones I spend my days helping. You lack any knowledge or experience there.

No wall is up and you're claiming wages are rising. Thank you. That is a road to progress.

 

[Correll]

AMERICANS OWNERSHIP IN THE STATUS QUO OF IMMIGRATION

Let's just do the top 10 so as to not confuse Koshergirl / Correll

1) America has more prisoners than any nation on this planet

2) Americans consume over 80 percent of the world's opioid supply

3) Over half of all federal prisoners are in prison on drug related charges

4) American children are prescribed Ritalin at a ratio of 3 to 1 over countries like the U.K.

5) With the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify, many Americans are locked out of the job market - and many times for irrelevant B.S. that the general public should NOT be allowed to access

6) Too many mommies think their children are special so you see guys in their 20s, 30s, 40s and beyond living in mommy's house and NOT contributing to society in any way, shape, fashion or form

7) Millions upon millions of Americans are functional illiterates (my critics have admitted they are)

8) Over half of the American people are dependent upon the government for at least a portion of their daily bread

9) Scores of these illiterates support socialist ideology that violates a person's Right to Privacy, their presumption of innocence, and the illiterates think that the private sector owes them a job

10) By complaining about people (and doing so dishonestly) not paying taxes, it is supporting the income tax - which is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.

Pill popping, tattooed, body pierced people with no education, no job skills, a drug habit and a criminal record (that the wallists like Correll want you to have for life) absolutely guarantees that you are virtually unemployable.

Compare to that some foreign kid in his 20s that is fit and ready to work. He has a couple of kids and a mortgage to pay for. Who the Hell do the wallists think the employer is going to hire?

Americans have the right to AMERICAN polices that serve the interests of AMERICANS.


That the lowest dregs of American society have trouble competing against the best that the Turd World has to offer, is a valid point.


But if our policies prevent those Third Worlders, from being IN our labor market, then that gives a chance for those "pill popping, tattooed, body pierced people" to get some job skills and turn their screwed up lives around.


Your point about the criminal records is valid. Employers are so terrified of being sued on discrimination charges, that they go the paper trail more than the actual candidate, imo.

* Americans do have the Right to American policies that serve their interests. That is why we have private property Rights

* The lowest dregs of society are WHY you have an influx of foreigners to fill the jobs they cannot or will not work AND to fill the jobs YOU would deny to them with those endless background checks wherein Americans can never rise above their past

* Employers will not hire the dregs of society at inflated wages and be dictated to by a tyrannical government. If you don't believe that, check to see how much communist China has grown over the last 15 or so years compared to the United States.

* It's sad to say, but it is easier to get into communist China than the U.S. - that is if you want in the U.S. with human registration papers

The right to American policies that serve their interests is not supported by the Property Rights but by voting, and having the elected representatives representing their interests.


Employers WILL hire Americans, at hirer wages, if they are the only ones available. AS WE ARE SEEING HAPPENING MORE AND MORE NOW.


THe Americans we are talking about, are not bad people. They don't need or deserve being punished. You give them a chance and the vast majority of them will be able to benefit from it.

And that is a good thing for them, and for America as a whole.

If that made you feel good, I'm glad for you. The people locked out of the job market are the ones I spend my days helping. You lack any knowledge or experience there.

No wall is up and you're claiming wages are rising. Thank you. That is a road to progress.

Wages are up, imo, because the labor market has finally tightened, a little bit.


Keeping them rising, will require keep the labor market tight.


The more wages rise, the more of a draw for immigration, legal and illegal. That if allowed, will stop the rise.

Employers who are desperate for workers, are more likely to be open to dropping restrictions against people with criminal records, especially old and/or non violent offenses.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I can't figure out if you're that stupid or that dishonest

1) Plausible deniability

2) Everybody that expends any effort has an impact. You've admitted that you are not a researcher, so you should leave the facts to people who HAVE experience

3) Even YOU have the same common interests with Nazis. If you had to make an argument for the wall and you were forbidden to quote any statistic related to John Tanton, you would have little more than your weenie in your hand. Shall I begin repeating the ties between Nazis, Republicans, the Tea Party and the wall idea? Just because you can't read it don't mean the facts don't exist

4) Damn son. How many times do you want to cover the same ground? Are you REALLY that fucking stupid? We just did this once today and many more times in the past. Stay tuned - we can keep repeating it. It isn't going to change and you won't know until you read the thread

5) Nazis had a big impact on your dumb ass. You're one of them and too stupid to recognize it

Okay, here is the proof - YET AGAIN

1. Nope. Makes complete sense to distinguish between the white supremacists and those legitimately concerned about historical statues. What is dishonest is people like you, lumping the two groups together as though they are one.

2. NOt really. Some fringe guy who speaks for a few thousand people, maybe, in a nation of over 300 million, has no impact. Lost in the noise. Out weighted by people too drunk to pull the right lever.

3. I've ridiculed your game of Kevin Bacon to death. If you want to go back to that, I can do it some more. I don't mind beating a dead horse. But, my point stands. Mainstream political parties and grassroots movements do NOT work together with or have common interests with Nazis.

4. Save the histrionics and insults for someone that might be impressed by them. My question stands. Explain "thy deny our ownership in the status quo".

5. Blah, blah, blah, nazi. Blah, blah blah, blah, stupid. Your inability to support your claim is noted. We can drop this now, or I can point that out some more. Your choice.

1) You hang with Nazis. Trying to claim otherwise is dishonest and dishonorable. You could disavow the strategies and solutions, but choose not to. That is hypocritical and dishonest

2) You are uneducated as they come. If voting could change things, it would be illegal. It's not large groups that wield power. That is what you fail to comprehend... though you hang with shitsacks (and then bad mouth them when you don't have plausible deniability

3) You can beat a dead horse, but what you believe in is National Socialism

4) DONE and got your number ... even with you using two profiles, you're no match for me. Your denials do not refute the truth.

1. We were discussing you repeating the lie that the President said that some nazis are fine people. You conveniently got confused on that.... Your confusions like that, often seen to occur at such convenient times. That your confusion led to you simply calling me nazi, is very telling. You need to stop this bullshit.


2. So, which is it? Are nazis a "large group" that put Trump into power? Or does "voting not change anything"? You are all over the place, not making much sense. You do keep on message when it comes to being insulting though. FUnny how that works.


3. Save the histrionics and insults for someone that might be impressed by them. My question stands. Explain "thy deny our ownership in the status quo". You did not answer that. YOu did stay on message with your insults though. Funny how you never lose THAT thread.


4. Blah, blah, blah, nazi. Blah, blah blah, blah, stupid. Your inability to support your claim is noted. We can drop this now, or I can point that out some more. Your choice. And again, you ignore the point but stay on message with the insults.

1) If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and has webbed feet... however you define yourself is on you. But you are knowingly supporting the policies of Nazis. That is a fact. Period

2) I've NEVER said the Nazis were a numerically powerful force. You just keep avoid reading what I did say. John Tanton, a real pro-Nazi funded at least a dozen non - profits like Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), NumbersUSA, etc. Those think tanks and Political Action Committees are largely funded by ONE man and promoted by a very small number of organizations. BUT, their propaganda constitutes 98 percent of your talking points and you dismiss any other solution

3) You're lying again and in post # 1434 it fairly lists the failures that people such as yourself will not address. If America were not the drug capital of the world, there would be no need to create drug cartels from south of the border. If those drug addicts were not in jail, prison, on probation / parole, drawing welfare, or being judged for their past criminal history, they might be able to get a job (with some incentives and help from volunteers,... like you, presuming you can give up posting every day.) If all that happened, they would be working and if there were no available jobs, there would be no need for foreigners to come here

4) I don't have to insult you. You're an insult to yourself. Anybody with an IQ higher than their shoe size can see that I've provided INDISPUTABLE FACTS. These are facts, by your own admission, you haven't read. You're just pounding your chest, lying and refusing to accept the truth for what it is. But, let's start over just in case you lost your place. Let us start at the beginning...

1. Walking like a duck, in this case, would be launching wars of conquest and genocide, not saying something nice about some people who like historical statues. So, that is you being very, very wrong. And unfair, AND rude.


2. Calling my points, "propaganda" nor making up shit about where you think I got the ideas, is not an counter argument, it is just you being a jerk.

3. Whoa, that is an interesting response. So, somehow in your mind, that we have internal problems, that means we don't have the right to immigration policy? Walk me though that more slowly.

4. Blah, blah, blah, no insult you. Blah, blah, blah, insult you.

1) I've been nice about the people who are concerned over our culture. NOW you're switching gears and want to join me in saying the REAL THREAT IS TO OUR CULTURE? How mighty American of you!

2) The John Tanton points that you spew are propaganda that are not supported by facts. You're going to see that if you pay attention to number 3 on this list

3) A right to an immigration policy? I tried to get you to talk about that. You keep dodging it. Watch for my next post and let's REALLY discuss that. Let's leave all the other shit on the back burner and let's talk about immigration policy

4) Open challenge - No insults and no bullshit. Let's debate immigration policy and only immigration policy. See my next post

 

[Porter Rockwell]

America has had foreigners regulated since the Mayflower hit the shores of the New World in 1620. However, this process has been done by different levels of government at different times. From your own article:

"The federal government assumed control of immigration on April 18, 1890"

Here are the serious questions for you Correll:

A) Where, in the Constitution, does the federal government have the authority to tell the states who can and cannot come to that respective state?

B) PRIOR to 1890 the federal government did not have control over immigration. Obviously if someone were regulating the flow of foreigners and it was not the federal government, somebody did it for that period between 1789 and 1890 A FULL CENTURY OF REGULATION WITHOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY YOUR OWN LINK!

C) HOW did the federal government, after a century end up controlling the flow of foreigners? Which Amendment changed that?

 

[Correll]

1. Nope. Makes complete sense to distinguish between the white supremacists and those legitimately concerned about historical statues. What is dishonest is people like you, lumping the two groups together as though they are one.

2. NOt really. Some fringe guy who speaks for a few thousand people, maybe, in a nation of over 300 million, has no impact. Lost in the noise. Out weighted by people too drunk to pull the right lever.

3. I've ridiculed your game of Kevin Bacon to death. If you want to go back to that, I can do it some more. I don't mind beating a dead horse. But, my point stands. Mainstream political parties and grassroots movements do NOT work together with or have common interests with Nazis.

4. Save the histrionics and insults for someone that might be impressed by them. My question stands. Explain "thy deny our ownership in the status quo".

5. Blah, blah, blah, nazi. Blah, blah blah, blah, stupid. Your inability to support your claim is noted. We can drop this now, or I can point that out some more. Your choice.

1) You hang with Nazis. Trying to claim otherwise is dishonest and dishonorable. You could disavow the strategies and solutions, but choose not to. That is hypocritical and dishonest

2) You are uneducated as they come. If voting could change things, it would be illegal. It's not large groups that wield power. That is what you fail to comprehend... though you hang with shitsacks (and then bad mouth them when you don't have plausible deniability

3) You can beat a dead horse, but what you believe in is National Socialism

4) DONE and got your number ... even with you using two profiles, you're no match for me. Your denials do not refute the truth.

1. We were discussing you repeating the lie that the President said that some nazis are fine people. You conveniently got confused on that.... Your confusions like that, often seen to occur at such convenient times. That your confusion led to you simply calling me nazi, is very telling. You need to stop this bullshit.


2. So, which is it? Are nazis a "large group" that put Trump into power? Or does "voting not change anything"? You are all over the place, not making much sense. You do keep on message when it comes to being insulting though. FUnny how that works.


3. Save the histrionics and insults for someone that might be impressed by them. My question stands. Explain "thy deny our ownership in the status quo". You did not answer that. YOu did stay on message with your insults though. Funny how you never lose THAT thread.


4. Blah, blah, blah, nazi. Blah, blah blah, blah, stupid. Your inability to support your claim is noted. We can drop this now, or I can point that out some more. Your choice. And again, you ignore the point but stay on message with the insults.

1) If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and has webbed feet... however you define yourself is on you. But you are knowingly supporting the policies of Nazis. That is a fact. Period

2) I've NEVER said the Nazis were a numerically powerful force. You just keep avoid reading what I did say. John Tanton, a real pro-Nazi funded at least a dozen non - profits like Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), NumbersUSA, etc. Those think tanks and Political Action Committees are largely funded by ONE man and promoted by a very small number of organizations. BUT, their propaganda constitutes 98 percent of your talking points and you dismiss any other solution

3) You're lying again and in post # 1434 it fairly lists the failures that people such as yourself will not address. If America were not the drug capital of the world, there would be no need to create drug cartels from south of the border. If those drug addicts were not in jail, prison, on probation / parole, drawing welfare, or being judged for their past criminal history, they might be able to get a job (with some incentives and help from volunteers,... like you, presuming you can give up posting every day.) If all that happened, they would be working and if there were no available jobs, there would be no need for foreigners to come here

4) I don't have to insult you. You're an insult to yourself. Anybody with an IQ higher than their shoe size can see that I've provided INDISPUTABLE FACTS. These are facts, by your own admission, you haven't read. You're just pounding your chest, lying and refusing to accept the truth for what it is. But, let's start over just in case you lost your place. Let us start at the beginning...

1. Walking like a duck, in this case, would be launching wars of conquest and genocide, not saying something nice about some people who like historical statues. So, that is you being very, very wrong. And unfair, AND rude.


2. Calling my points, "propaganda" nor making up shit about where you think I got the ideas, is not an counter argument, it is just you being a jerk.

3. Whoa, that is an interesting response. So, somehow in your mind, that we have internal problems, that means we don't have the right to immigration policy? Walk me though that more slowly.

4. Blah, blah, blah, no insult you. Blah, blah, blah, insult you.

1) I've been nice about the people who are concerned over our culture. NOW you're switching gears and want to join me in saying the REAL THREAT IS TO OUR CULTURE? How mighty American of you!

2) The John Tanton points that you spew are propaganda that are not supported by facts. You're going to see that if you pay attention to number 3 on this list

3) A right to an immigration policy? I tried to get you to talk about that. You keep dodging it. Watch for my next post and let's REALLY discuss that. Let's leave all the other shit on the back burner and let's talk about immigration policy

4) Open challenge - No insults and no bullshit. Let's debate immigration policy and only immigration policy. See my next post

1. Trump was discussing NOT white supremacists/nazis, when he said that, and YOU are the one that implied that they were nazis. That is not being nice to them, that is being incredibly insulting to them.

2. If they were really not supported by facts, then call me on those facts. Attacking me because your Kevin Bacon game, is not valid.


3. There is no reason that our internal polices deny US the right to decide who to invite into our community or not.

 

[Correll]

America has had foreigners regulated since the Mayflower hit the shores of the New World in 1620. However, this process has been done by different levels of government at different times. From your own article:

"The federal government assumed control of immigration on April 18, 1890"

Here are the serious questions for you Correll:

A) Where, in the Constitution, does the federal government have the authority to tell the states who can and cannot come to that respective state?

B) PRIOR to 1890 the federal government did not have control over immigration. Obviously if someone were regulating the flow of foreigners and it was not the federal government, somebody did it for that period between 1789 and 1890 A FULL CENTURY OF REGULATION WITHOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY YOUR OWN LINK!

C) HOW did the federal government, after a century end up controlling the flow of foreigners? Which Amendment changed that?

Don't know, don't really care. You let 50 million Mexicans move into California, and this country will no longer be this country.


Also, this does not explain your use of our drug issue as a reason to not have an immigration policy.

 

[danielpalos]

AMERICANS OWNERSHIP IN THE STATUS QUO OF IMMIGRATION

Let's just do the top 10 so as to not confuse Koshergirl / Correll

1) America has more prisoners than any nation on this planet

2) Americans consume over 80 percent of the world's opioid supply

3) Over half of all federal prisoners are in prison on drug related charges

4) American children are prescribed Ritalin at a ratio of 3 to 1 over countries like the U.K.

5) With the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify, many Americans are locked out of the job market - and many times for irrelevant B.S. that the general public should NOT be allowed to access

6) Too many mommies think their children are special so you see guys in their 20s, 30s, 40s and beyond living in mommy's house and NOT contributing to society in any way, shape, fashion or form

7) Millions upon millions of Americans are functional illiterates (my critics have admitted they are)

8) Over half of the American people are dependent upon the government for at least a portion of their daily bread

9) Scores of these illiterates support socialist ideology that violates a person's Right to Privacy, their presumption of innocence, and the illiterates think that the private sector owes them a job

10) By complaining about people (and doing so dishonestly) not paying taxes, it is supporting the income tax - which is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.

Pill popping, tattooed, body pierced people with no education, no job skills, a drug habit and a criminal record (that the wallists like Correll want you to have for life) absolutely guarantees that you are virtually unemployable.

Compare to that some foreign kid in his 20s that is fit and ready to work. He has a couple of kids and a mortgage to pay for. Who the Hell do the wallists think the employer is going to hire?

Americans have the right to AMERICAN polices that serve the interests of AMERICANS.


That the lowest dregs of American society have trouble competing against the best that the Turd World has to offer, is a valid point.


But if our policies prevent those Third Worlders, from being IN our labor market, then that gives a chance for those "pill popping, tattooed, body pierced people" to get some job skills and turn their screwed up lives around.

Your point about the criminal records is valid. Employers are so terrified of being sued on discrimination charges, that they go the paper trail more than the actual candidate, imo.

we simply need better management.

there is no drug war clause. equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States is more cost effective than our current, "police State" regime, for the Poor.

we should be generating revenue from all foreign nationals in the US; they should all be known to the general government and be federally identified for civil purposes. we should have no illegal problem or any illegal underclass.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

America has had foreigners regulated since the Mayflower hit the shores of the New World in 1620. However, this process has been done by different levels of government at different times. From your own article:

"The federal government assumed control of immigration on April 18, 1890"

Here are the serious questions for you Correll:

A) Where, in the Constitution, does the federal government have the authority to tell the states who can and cannot come to that respective state?

B) PRIOR to 1890 the federal government did not have control over immigration. Obviously if someone were regulating the flow of foreigners and it was not the federal government, somebody did it for that period between 1789 and 1890 A FULL CENTURY OF REGULATION WITHOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY YOUR OWN LINK!

C) HOW did the federal government, after a century end up controlling the flow of foreigners? Which Amendment changed that?

Don't know, don't really care. You let 50 million Mexicans move into California, and this country will no longer be this country.


Also, this does not explain your use of our drug issue as a reason to not have an immigration policy.

We have an immigration policy. We also have an unconstitutional Amendment (that allows those mythical "anchor babies" you wail about) which should cause you some consternation. We have illegal policies that are causing the problem AND my biggest stake in the game - the REAL reason you don't like me...

MY RIGHTS ARE NOT FOR SALE AT ANY PRICE.

Now, since you bitched about insults and came up with a straw man argument, I'm going to post my question again. This time, see if you can leave veiled insults, straw man arguments and our differences on the back burner. I'm going to help you understand the issue. Just answer my questions. I'll even repeat this stuff for you again.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

EVERYTHING the federal government touches, they manage to screw up. I continue to ask Correll the following. I think he will not answer this because he does NOT support the Rule of Law. Let's see. Here it is one more time:

America has had foreigners regulated since the Mayflower hit the shores of the New World in 1620. However, this process has been done by different levels of government at different times. From your own article:

"The federal government assumed control of immigration on April 18, 1890"

Here are the serious questions for you Correll:

A) Where, in the Constitution, does the federal government have the authority to tell the states who can and cannot come to that respective state?

B) PRIOR to 1890 the federal government did not have control over immigration. Obviously if someone were regulating the flow of foreigners and it was not the federal government, somebody did it for that period between 1789 and 1890 A FULL CENTURY OF REGULATION WITHOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY YOUR OWN LINK!

C) HOW did the federal government, after a century end up controlling the flow of foreigners? Which Amendment changed that?

 

[Correll]

America has had foreigners regulated since the Mayflower hit the shores of the New World in 1620. However, this process has been done by different levels of government at different times. From your own article:

"The federal government assumed control of immigration on April 18, 1890"

Here are the serious questions for you Correll:

A) Where, in the Constitution, does the federal government have the authority to tell the states who can and cannot come to that respective state?

B) PRIOR to 1890 the federal government did not have control over immigration. Obviously if someone were regulating the flow of foreigners and it was not the federal government, somebody did it for that period between 1789 and 1890 A FULL CENTURY OF REGULATION WITHOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY YOUR OWN LINK!

C) HOW did the federal government, after a century end up controlling the flow of foreigners? Which Amendment changed that?

Don't know, don't really care. You let 50 million Mexicans move into California, and this country will no longer be this country.


Also, this does not explain your use of our drug issue as a reason to not have an immigration policy.

We have an immigration policy. We also have an unconstitutional Amendment (that allows those mythical "anchor babies" you wail about) which should cause you some consternation. We have illegal policies that are causing the problem AND my biggest stake in the game - the REAL reason you don't like me...

MY RIGHTS ARE NOT FOR SALE AT ANY PRICE.

Now, since you bitched about insults and came up with a straw man argument, I'm going to post my question again. This time, see if you can leave veiled insults, straw man arguments and our differences on the back burner. I'm going to help you understand the issue. Just answer my questions. I'll even repeat this stuff for you again.

I mentioned immigration and you replied with complaints about our internal problems as though that was a reason to NOT control immigration.


That was not a strawman. You brought up the shit about our working poor. Why if not as a reason to let in immigrates, legal and illegal?

 

[Porter Rockwell]

America has had foreigners regulated since the Mayflower hit the shores of the New World in 1620. However, this process has been done by different levels of government at different times. From your own article:

"The federal government assumed control of immigration on April 18, 1890"

Here are the serious questions for you Correll:

A) Where, in the Constitution, does the federal government have the authority to tell the states who can and cannot come to that respective state?

B) PRIOR to 1890 the federal government did not have control over immigration. Obviously if someone were regulating the flow of foreigners and it was not the federal government, somebody did it for that period between 1789 and 1890 A FULL CENTURY OF REGULATION WITHOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY YOUR OWN LINK!

C) HOW did the federal government, after a century end up controlling the flow of foreigners? Which Amendment changed that?

Don't know, don't really care. You let 50 million Mexicans move into California, and this country will no longer be this country.


Also, this does not explain your use of our drug issue as a reason to not have an immigration policy.

We have an immigration policy. We also have an unconstitutional Amendment (that allows those mythical "anchor babies" you wail about) which should cause you some consternation. We have illegal policies that are causing the problem AND my biggest stake in the game - the REAL reason you don't like me...

MY RIGHTS ARE NOT FOR SALE AT ANY PRICE.

Now, since you bitched about insults and came up with a straw man argument, I'm going to post my question again. This time, see if you can leave veiled insults, straw man arguments and our differences on the back burner. I'm going to help you understand the issue. Just answer my questions. I'll even repeat this stuff for you again.

I mentioned immigration and you replied with complaints about our internal problems as though that was a reason to NOT control immigration.


That was not a strawman. You brought up the shit about our working poor. Why if not as a reason to let in immigrates, legal and illegal?

I asked you some questions in a respectful manner. You have chosen NOT to formulate honest answers. Instead you make idiotic allegations and you'll cry like a baby if I insult you. Did it ever dawn on you that my questions are based upon showing you that your straw man arguments are unnecessary and every question you've asked, along with those that have not been asked (which are equally relevant) will be answered.

Now, keep up with the allegations, but quit your bitching when I dish it back out to you. Here is my question to you and I'm damn well due an answer after answering your bullshit as if I were your push button monkey. Let's see if a civil discourse is possible. see my next post....

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I responded to one of Correll's rhetorical questions and have been chasing him for over 20 posts, trying to get an honest answer from him. Let's see if he can answer this time. EVERY one of his answers so far is to avoid the questions and pose straw man arguments and accuse me of B.S. he would never accuse anyone of to their face.

America has had foreigners regulated since the Mayflower hit the shores of the New World in 1620. However, this process has been done by different levels of government at different times. From your own article:

"The federal government assumed control of immigration on April 18, 1890"

Here are the serious questions for you Correll:

A) Where, in the Constitution, does the federal government have the authority to tell the states who can and cannot come to that respective state?

B) PRIOR to 1890 the federal government did not have control over immigration. Obviously if someone were regulating the flow of foreigners and it was not the federal government, somebody did it for that period between 1789 and 1890 A FULL CENTURY OF REGULATION WITHOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY YOUR OWN LINK!

C) HOW did the federal government, after a century end up controlling the flow of foreigners? Which Amendment changed that?

 

[danielpalos]

EVERYTHING the federal government touches, they manage to screw up. I continue to ask Correll the following. I think he will not answer this because he does NOT support the Rule of Law. Let's see. Here it is one more time:

America has had foreigners regulated since the Mayflower hit the shores of the New World in 1620. However, this process has been done by different levels of government at different times. From your own article:

"The federal government assumed control of immigration on April 18, 1890"

Here are the serious questions for you Correll:

A) Where, in the Constitution, does the federal government have the authority to tell the states who can and cannot come to that respective state?

B) PRIOR to 1890 the federal government did not have control over immigration. Obviously if someone were regulating the flow of foreigners and it was not the federal government, somebody did it for that period between 1789 and 1890 A FULL CENTURY OF REGULATION WITHOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY YOUR OWN LINK!

C) HOW did the federal government, after a century end up controlling the flow of foreigners? Which Amendment changed that?

The general government has supreme authority over entry into the Union after 1808.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

EVERYTHING the federal government touches, they manage to screw up. I continue to ask Correll the following. I think he will not answer this because he does NOT support the Rule of Law. Let's see. Here it is one more time:

America has had foreigners regulated since the Mayflower hit the shores of the New World in 1620. However, this process has been done by different levels of government at different times. From your own article:

"The federal government assumed control of immigration on April 18, 1890"

Here are the serious questions for you Correll:

A) Where, in the Constitution, does the federal government have the authority to tell the states who can and cannot come to that respective state?

B) PRIOR to 1890 the federal government did not have control over immigration. Obviously if someone were regulating the flow of foreigners and it was not the federal government, somebody did it for that period between 1789 and 1890 A FULL CENTURY OF REGULATION WITHOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY YOUR OWN LINK!

C) HOW did the federal government, after a century end up controlling the flow of foreigners? Which Amendment changed that?

The general government has supreme authority over entry into the Union after 1808.

Not being a smart ass, danielpalos, but it's time for Correll to answer the question. Since he wants to make accusations, let him show us what's really between his ears.