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Hearings to impeach Obama would garner sympathy for him and turn attention away from the war.
so you think, the left should start the process?
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Hearings to impeach Obama would garner sympathy for him and turn attention away from the war.
Coulda, Woulda, shoulda...moot...WE were there...as to staying OUT of Syria? Lockstep buddy. Congress had better be paying attention.What is the difference in rationale between Iraq and Syria?
The right wingers will respond that the Prez then was white and a republican.
The Libertarians will reply that we should have not invaded Iraq . We should stay the fuck away from Syria.
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Nope in the old days of Reagan? It was covert...Putin is out in the open. And laughing his ass off at US.Putin is so maxxed though he's already saying point blank that he will give Assad whatever he needs.
Any one ever seen a Russian President give it a go like this ever? ever?
WRONG Obama wants to help defend ONE side of a two sided coin that are BOTH bad.With Iraq, conservatives couldnt wait to go to war, in support of a republican president. Conservatives accused those opposed to invading Iraq as being un-American, weak on terror, terrorist sympathizers, and anti-troop.
Now, all of a sudden, with a democrat in the WH, conservatives are opposed to war.
The fact is conservatives oppose a military strike against Syria solely for partisan reasons, only because Obama support a strike, having nothing to do with the merits and facts of such a military action.
With Syria, conservatives are exhibiting the epitome of partisan hypocrisy.
What is the difference in rationale between Iraq and Syria?
- Dictator/Tyrant has WMD capability
- Fight them there so we don't have to fight them here
- Danger to Israel
- De-stabilize ME
Right-Wing refusal to back strikes proves that Iraq really was only about controlling the oil.
A Democratic President is in office.
He's now in a second term.
Things were supposed to be different.
They're not and that's why you're asking Republicans.
You make your the other sides point.
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Things are completely different.
- He got us out of Iraq
The status of forces agreement that lead to that was in place before he was ever sworn in.- He killed Osama bin Laden
Seal team six did that but he was the CIC so he gets that one.- He went from losing 750,000 jobs per month under Bush to 43 straight months of growth
Minimal growth add the people who have stopped looking for work and dropped out of the workforce and the jobs picture looks far less impressive.- He turned the stock market from 6,000 to 15,000
That happened in spite of him not because of him in any event it's just those evil rich people prospering while the middle class and poor continue to suffer.- He's getting us out of Afghanistan
Yes that should work out very good giving how well things are going in the rest of the middle east.
I don't for a second believe Obama wants to use force, but sometimes the integrity of the United States Of America must be upheld. Not Obama's integrity with his red line comment - the country's. This has been a red line since 1925.
So we have to use force to save the integrity of the country that Obama damaged by making a boast he was not prepared to back up?
We've already violated the Geneva Conventions under Bush - are we going to totally disregard them from this point on?
Ah B.D.S.
If we do, be ready for CW attacks in the U.S., because that's something that can be snuck into this country a hell of a lot easier than conventional explosives.
If Obama is no different than Bush, why aren't conservatives supporting him the way they supported Bush?
because conservative are smarter than libtards( who are a partisan brainwashed crowd) and learn from previous mistakes?
And where do I find the thread where all the conservative Iraq war supporters around here admit that Iraq was a mistake and admit they were wrong to support it?
In fact, they can post that here, now.
We'll be able to tell by how many make that admission whether or not you're full of shit.
A Democratic President is in office.
He's now in a second term.
Things were supposed to be different.
They're not and that's why you're asking Republicans.
You make your the other sides point.
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Things are completely different.
- He got us out of Iraq
The status of forces agreement that lead to that was in place before he was ever sworn in.- He killed Osama bin Laden
Seal team six did that but he was the CIC so he gets that one.- He went from losing 750,000 jobs per month under Bush to 43 straight months of growth
Minimal growth add the people who have stopped looking for work and dropped out of the workforce and the jobs picture looks far less impressive.- He turned the stock market from 6,000 to 15,000
That happened in spite of him not because of him in any event it's just those evil rich people prospering while the middle class and poor continue to suffer.- He's getting us out of Afghanistan
Yes that should work out very good giving how well things are going in the rest of the middle east.
I don't for a second believe Obama wants to use force, but sometimes the integrity of the United States Of America must be upheld. Not Obama's integrity with his red line comment - the country's. This has been a red line since 1925.
So we have to use force to save the integrity of the country that Obama damaged by making a boast he was not prepared to back up?
We've already violated the Geneva Conventions under Bush - are we going to totally disregard them from this point on?
Ah B.D.S.
If we do, be ready for CW attacks in the U.S., because that's something that can be snuck into this country a hell of a lot easier than conventional explosives.
Wow when the right say's stuff like that it's called being paranoid.
Nope in the old days of Reagan? It was covert...Putin is out in the open. And laughing his ass off at US.Putin is so maxxed though he's already saying point blank that he will give Assad whatever he needs.
Any one ever seen a Russian President give it a go like this ever? ever?
I don't know what to say.
With Iraq, conservatives couldnt wait to go to war, in support of a republican president. Conservatives accused those opposed to invading Iraq as being un-American, weak on terror, terrorist sympathizers, and anti-troop.
Now, all of a sudden, with a democrat in the WH, conservatives are opposed to war.
The fact is conservatives oppose a military strike against Syria solely for partisan reasons, only because Obama support a strike, having nothing to do with the merits and facts of such a military action.
With Syria, conservatives are exhibiting the epitome of partisan hypocrisy.
With Iraq, conservatives couldn’t wait to go to war, in support of a republican president. Conservatives accused those opposed to invading Iraq as being ‘un-American,’ ‘weak on terror,’ ‘terrorist sympathizers,’ and ‘anti-troop.’
Now, all of a sudden, with a democrat in the WH, conservatives are ‘opposed to “war.”’
The fact is conservatives oppose a military strike against Syria solely for partisan reasons, only because Obama support a strike, having nothing to do with the merits and facts of such a military action.
With Syria, conservatives are exhibiting the epitome of partisan hypocrisy.
Nope in the old days of Reagan? It was covert...Putin is out in the open. And laughing his ass off at US.
I don't know what to say.
Difficult, isn't it? I LOATHE Obama more than I ever have for putting US in this position...just so he can play politics to save his own ass.
Just wait for the whoppers we will hear on Tuesday night.I don't know what to say.
Difficult, isn't it? I LOATHE Obama more than I ever have for putting US in this position...just so he can play politics to save his own ass.
I'm starting to get really steamed. Pardon my french because I am about to lose it on liars.
I won't have lies.
With Iraq, conservatives couldnt wait to go to war, in support of a republican president. Conservatives accused those opposed to invading Iraq as being un-American, weak on terror, terrorist sympathizers, and anti-troop.
Now, all of a sudden, with a democrat in the WH, conservatives are opposed to war.
The fact is conservatives oppose a military strike against Syria solely for partisan reasons, only because Obama support a strike, having nothing to do with the merits and facts of such a military action.
With Syria, conservatives are exhibiting the epitome of partisan hypocrisy.
As to your former point? Obama pulled out prematurely from Iraq...it is a hotbed for AQ terrorism....Just wait until we leave Astan?With Iraq, conservatives couldnt wait to go to war, in support of a republican president. Conservatives accused those opposed to invading Iraq as being un-American, weak on terror, terrorist sympathizers, and anti-troop.
Now, all of a sudden, with a democrat in the WH, conservatives are opposed to war.
The fact is conservatives oppose a military strike against Syria solely for partisan reasons, only because Obama support a strike, having nothing to do with the merits and facts of such a military action.
With Syria, conservatives are exhibiting the epitome of partisan hypocrisy.
Or maybe invading and defeating Saddam and then routing Al Qaeda was removing two threats while attacking Assad is supporting Al Qaeda.
Now the liberals supporting this war? Well that's just comical and down right sad.
Nope in the old days of Reagan? It was covert...Putin is out in the open. And laughing his ass off at US.
I don't know what to say.
Difficult, isn't it? I LOATHE Obama more than I ever have for putting US in this position...just so he can play politics to save his own ass.
I don't know what to say.
Difficult, isn't it? I LOATHE Obama more than I ever have for putting US in this position...just so he can play politics to save his own ass.
I'm starting to get really steamed. Pardon my french because I am about to lose it on liars.
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Notice how Synthia won't address Al Queada in Syria or why the Dems aren't flocking to Obama's banner?
Difficult, isn't it? I LOATHE Obama more than I ever have for putting US in this position...just so he can play politics to save his own ass.
I'm starting to get really steamed. Pardon my french because I am about to lose it on liars.
.
Don't.
For Putin it is MUCH MORE important than for Obama.
It is his lifeline - if Gasprom loses the monopoly over the natural gas in Eirope - Russia is done. Meaning he, himself and his jerks who rip off the profits and expand their bank accounts.
So for Putin it is all or nothing.
I am a bit surprised that people here expressed "support" for that scumbag.
As much as I despise obama, but, believe me, you don't want to side on this with that stalinist midget.
This standoff, if it goes to standoff might come close to carribean missile crisis - but I am not sure if obama has the balls ( or the drugs in the system) as Kennedy had.
But if it comes that close I will stand with this president, no matter how much I dislike him.
Because you don't even imagine what the other side can mean. Not even close.