Rightwingers: what do you think of Bernie's plan for free tuition?

Rightwingers: what do you think of Bernie's plan for free tuition?

It's not free gawd that was easy, next silly liberal question.

And anytime you get the government involved costs go up....see Obamacare

Wrong...

Are you stating everytime!! Look at VA healthcare costs compared to private.... You're wrong... There is countless times where a society is better to pay for stuff than leave it to private...

Your comment is just plain stupid...
Yeah the VA. An org that killed our veterans. What a great example of government efficiency. Thanks.! /end sarcasm
Independent 2013 Survey Shows Veterans Highly Satisfied with VA Care Veterans Today
Really.

So you are stating that people willing to live in hostile territory while being shot at, sleep in holes in the ground, kiss their children goodbye for months or even years without seeing them, get limbs blown off, kill or ultimately die at the behest of a random CO rate their care better than the people who complain because it is raining outside?

What. A. Fucking. Revelation...
 
Wrong again, Billy.
U.S._Federal_Tax_Receipts_as_a_Percentage_of_GDP_1945%E2%80%932015.jpg

Notice what happened between 2009 and 2014? Yup, that's record revenue for this century flowing to the federal government, even by your own measure. And deficits are still higher than they were before the recession.
I await your next evasion.
You are so dumb. Can you not read a graph? The graph clearly shows that the percentage was higher in 2000.
Note what happened between 2009 and 2014. Revenues are at record levels for this century, which began in 2001.
Lol you are so pathetic.
You surrender on this issue is noted and accepted.
Do you even know what point you're trying to make?
The point is made.
The federal government is taking in record revenue by any measure. It isnt revenue, it's the spending, stupid.
 
The estimated cost per year for the government providing free tuition would be about 60 billion. Bernie would place a tax on Wall Street speculation to pay for it.

Now before you all go into your rants about "liberal free lunch bullshit derp, derp, derp!" you should consider WHY this is a great idea. This isn't about giving individuals hand outs, this is about how higher education benefits the country as a whole. Plenty of intelligent people who cannot afford to go to college or are discouraged by the massive student debt that they would accumulate choose not to attend. Imagine the implications if we had an influx of people getting degrees in science, public policy, or business administration. Don't you think those educated people would bring a great deal of contribution to this country?

Of course it's about "giving individuals handouts." What is wrong with you? There is nothing good to the country about using other people's money to take away people's responsibility to provide for themselves. Government funds it and you just fund a bunch more people who get stupid degrees that don't lead to jobs and continue to skyrocket the cost of education as you pump limitless more unaccountable money into colleges.
 
This will encourage even more ridiculous increases in the cost of tuition.

It will encourage even more degree inflation.

Limit the colleges that are eligible to use the free tuition on, based on their costs.


Oh...so that way they can get sweetheart deals from the politicians and the politicians will decide which schools gets all that government money...and which ones don't........yeah...that won't be a problem....
Meh. That would simply cause there to be another class of college - the one that is utterly worthless as high school diplomas are now. "Free" college degrees would be worth what you spent on them and the remaining colleges would trudge on.

Just like community college is right now - FAR cheaper and basically ignored.
 
It's not free gawd that was easy, next silly liberal question.

And anytime you get the government involved costs go up....see Obamacare

Wrong...

Are you stating everytime!! Look at VA healthcare costs compared to private.... You're wrong... There is countless times where a society is better to pay for stuff than leave it to private...

Your comment is just plain stupid...
Yeah the VA. An org that killed our veterans. What a great example of government efficiency. Thanks.! /end sarcasm
Independent 2013 Survey Shows Veterans Highly Satisfied with VA Care Veterans Today
proving your low education, low IQ credentials.
It doesnt matter how satisfied they are. IT matters what kind of care they get. And the VA scandal demonstrated that the VA is unaccountable and engaged in trickery to meet numbers.

Actually very highly educated having done Actuarial Science (undergraduate) and Software Development (post graduate) in university. I was tested at 155 - 160 IQ.. Actuarial Science has a minimum IQ around 145.

So factually you very wrong...

I showed that the VA don't are highly satisfied with VA care.... You answered with no evidence...

As I said before you probably lack the intellect to gain any advantage in a serious university course.... You continually show that you lack the grasp the difference between sensationalism and conspiracy theories and genuine fact based empirical evidence.

Look at your attitude Climate Change, the body of evidence has ended the discussion but we have seen you jump up and down about sensationalism and conspiracy theories.

You're a joke and you would have been laughed of any serious unversity campus. That is why you don't like education.
 
I'm no "rightwinger" but I'll say this, there is nothing "free" bout this idea. Someone has to pay for it somehow.


Who do you think that will be?
 
You are so dumb. Can you not read a graph? The graph clearly shows that the percentage was higher in 2000.
Note what happened between 2009 and 2014. Revenues are at record levels for this century, which began in 2001.
Lol you are so pathetic.
You surrender on this issue is noted and accepted.
Do you even know what point you're trying to make?
The point is made.
The federal government is taking in record revenue by any measure. It isnt revenue, it's the spending, stupid.

Record revenue after ending the Bush tax cuts on the highest earners? I thought that was impossible.

lol
 
You are so dumb. Can you not read a graph? The graph clearly shows that the percentage was higher in 2000.
Note what happened between 2009 and 2014. Revenues are at record levels for this century, which began in 2001.
Lol you are so pathetic.
You surrender on this issue is noted and accepted.
Do you even know what point you're trying to make?
The point is made.
The federal government is taking in record revenue by any measure. It isnt revenue, it's the spending, stupid.
No idiot because the debt still skyrocketed under Bush and look how low it was when. This isn't complicated to figure out.
 
The estimated cost per year for the government providing free tuition would be about 60 billion. Bernie would place a tax on Wall Street speculation to pay for it.

Now before you all go into your rants about "liberal free lunch bullshit derp, derp, derp!" you should consider WHY this is a great idea. This isn't about giving individuals hand outs, this is about how higher education benefits the country as a whole. Plenty of intelligent people who cannot afford to go to college or are discouraged by the massive student debt that they would accumulate choose not to attend. Imagine the implications if we had an influx of people getting degrees in science, public policy, or business administration. Don't you think those educated people would bring a great deal of contribution to this country?

Of course it's about "giving individuals handouts." What is wrong with you? There is nothing good to the country about using other people's money to take away people's responsibility to provide for themselves. Government funds it and you just fund a bunch more people who get stupid degrees that don't lead to jobs and continue to skyrocket the cost of education as you pump limitless more unaccountable money into colleges.
Millions of people going to college over time benefits the country as a whole. That is the truth.
 
The estimated cost per year for the government providing free tuition would be about 60 billion. Bernie would place a tax on Wall Street speculation to pay for it.

Now before you all go into your rants about "liberal free lunch bullshit derp, derp, derp!" you should consider WHY this is a great idea. This isn't about giving individuals hand outs, this is about how higher education benefits the country as a whole. Plenty of intelligent people who cannot afford to go to college or are discouraged by the massive student debt that they would accumulate choose not to attend. Imagine the implications if we had an influx of people getting degrees in science, public policy, or business administration. Don't you think those educated people would bring a great deal of contribution to this country?

Of course it's about "giving individuals handouts." What is wrong with you? There is nothing good to the country about using other people's money to take away people's responsibility to provide for themselves. Government funds it and you just fund a bunch more people who get stupid degrees that don't lead to jobs and continue to skyrocket the cost of education as you pump limitless more unaccountable money into colleges.
Millions of people going to college over time benefits the country as a whole. That is the truth.

Nothing benefits the country as a whole when you remove personal responsibility. You just create inefficient, corrupt wasteful systems
 
The estimated cost per year for the government providing free tuition would be about 60 billion. Bernie would place a tax on Wall Street speculation to pay for it.

Now before you all go into your rants about "liberal free lunch bullshit derp, derp, derp!" you should consider WHY this is a great idea. This isn't about giving individuals hand outs, this is about how higher education benefits the country as a whole. Plenty of intelligent people who cannot afford to go to college or are discouraged by the massive student debt that they would accumulate choose not to attend. Imagine the implications if we had an influx of people getting degrees in science, public policy, or business administration. Don't you think those educated people would bring a great deal of contribution to this country?
Liberal free lunch bullshit. Derp derp derp


Pretty much sums it up
 
This will encourage even more ridiculous increases in the cost of tuition.

It will encourage even more degree inflation.
You can almost use a Bachelor's Degree as toilet paper now as it is. This would almost certainly complete the cheapening process.
 
This will encourage even more ridiculous increases in the cost of tuition.

It will encourage even more degree inflation.
You can almost use a Bachelor's Degree as toilet paper now as it is. This would almost certainly complete the cheapening process.

Yes, and soar costs as unaccountable money floods into universities
 
[/QUOTE]You give the consumer free money to pay for products, the producers will find products to take all the money that is available.[/QUOTE]


You give the school more money through inflated tuitions, the schools will find more excuses to take all the money that is available.
 

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