Roe v Wade is gone. Who's to blame?

In Maryland voters around 92 voted it in. I think it might be a state constitutional right? It’s at least a function of law.
A whole lot of crazy ass shit has been going on for 3 years and I have to wonder about that in this.
 
Dear Liberals - I vote left wing most of the time, but I would advise you folks not to blame Republicans for this latest Supreme Court decision. A major portion of the blame for this rests squarely on the tens of millions of liberal or left leaning people who never (or rarely) bother to vote. If even 1/2 of these folks had gotten off their rumps and cast a ballot these last dozen years, this mess could have all been avoided. Hopefully this sends a strong message to them. Your rights are not automatic, support them or lose them! :bye1:

The blame is the voting system and the way the Supreme Court is elected.

The last time the Republicans gained more votes in the presidency than the Democrats was 2004. Twenty years ago. The one before that was 1988.

From 1992 onwards, the Republicans have had three terms (Bush twice and Trump once with two elections one with less votes than the opponent.) Democrats have had 4 and a half terms. (Clinton two, Obama two and Biden half)

In that time 9 justices have been appointed. Two for Clinton, two for Bush, two for Obama, three for Trump. So, five Republican and four Democrat.

You get MORE VOTES than the other party, every single time except once, in eight elections, and you get one less Supreme Court justice. How the fuck is that possible?
 
The blame is the voting system and the way the Supreme Court is elected.

The last time the Republicans gained more votes in the presidency than the Democrats was 2004. Twenty years ago. The one before that was 1988.

From 1992 onwards, the Republicans have had three terms (Bush twice and Trump once with two elections one with less votes than the opponent.) Democrats have had 4 and a half terms. (Clinton two, Obama two and Biden half)

In that time 9 justices have been appointed. Two for Clinton, two for Bush, two for Obama, three for Trump. So, five Republican and four Democrat.

You get MORE VOTES than the other party, every single time except once, in eight elections, and you get one less Supreme Court justice. How the fuck is that possible?
It's a lifetime appointment.

People live for different lengths, and retire too.

The fact that the court doesn't reflect the time served by presidents of one party or another is to be expected, and is in no way a negative; quite the contrary.
 
It's a lifetime appointment.

People live for different lengths, and retire too.

The fact that the court doesn't reflect the time served by presidents of one party or another is to be expected, and is in no way a negative; quite the contrary.

You're not convincing me that it's a sound system here.

In fact you're making it out to be pretty bad.

It's not negative if you're in the minority but you're getting what you want because the court is in your favor.

What kind of a democracy has political judges that are blatantly political, and whose appointments are based on a flawed voting system?

It's ridiculous.

The whole system is corrupt.
 
True.

The authoritarian right clearly won’t stop with Roe; indeed, the rights of all Americans are now in jeopardy, as this disastrous, wrongheaded decision will adversely affect far more than the privacy rights of women.
When the rightists brayed they favored "small government", who knew that they meant intrusive, petty politicians so puny that they insinuate themselves into wombs? The ideological fanatics' compulsion to dictate to private enterprise, medicine, science, education and local communities is cancerous.

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Neither voters nor nonvoters overturned Roe v Wade. 6 justices in the Supreme Court did, 5 men and 1 women which included 3 Trump appointees. It will be interesting to see the backlash in Republican states by republican women who do not share the zeal of republican men to take away their freedom of choice. Among republican women, 49% favor overturning Roe v Wade and 48*% do not.


I guess exactly this form to think is to blame. It exists not only form and formalisms like laws - it exists also content and values like life. To destroy a life on not any real reason is a titanic problem. So abortion as a medical method - for example on reason to save the life of the mother - is not the real problem. The problem is to use such a method and to kill with it on not any real reason human beings.
 
The nomination of the despicable Hillary Clinton led directly to the election of Trump who seated three justices.
Couldn't have done it without her.
 
Dear Liberals - I vote left wing most of the time, but I would advise you folks not to blame Republicans for this latest Supreme Court decision. A major portion of the blame for this rests squarely on the tens of millions of liberal or left leaning people who never (or rarely) bother to vote. If even 1/2 of these folks had gotten off their rumps and cast a ballot these last dozen years, this mess could have all been avoided. Hopefully this sends a strong message to them. Your rights are not automatic, support them or lose them! :bye1:
The better question is who do we Thank
 
Reproductive rights belong to each individual woman.
The fanatics failed for decades via proselytization to persuade most Americans, so they resorted to State coercion as the means to impose their personal notions upon everyone.

The authoritarian zealots who are hellbent on arrogating personal liberty in retrogressive states will be confronted with the majority of Americans still supporting Roe v Wade, the reality that the majority of abortions are now of the medical variety via internet and private mail, and the resistance within the judicial system to persecuting women for private decisions.

Americans will not allow these extremists to devolve our nation into an Iraq, an El Salvador, or a Nicaragua where politicians control wombs.


Dozens of elected prosecutors said Friday they would refuse to prosecute those seeking, assisting or providing abortions after the Supreme Court overturned the 1973 ruling that guaranteed a constitutional right to abortion.
Dozens of elected prosecutors say they will refuse to prosecute abortion care
Prosecutors from 29 states, territories and Washington, D.C., signed a joint statement that included signatories from states like Mississippi, Missouri and Wisconsin that have banned or are poised to ban abortion services following the reversal of Roe v. Wade.
“Not all of us agree on a personal or moral level on the issue of abortion,” said the statement signed by 84 prosecutors, a group that included district attorneys and state attorneys general. “But we stand together in our firm belief that prosecutors have a responsibility to refrain from using limited criminal legal system resources to criminalize personal medical decisions. As such, we decline to use our offices’ resources to criminalize reproductive health decisions and commit to exercise our well-settled discretion and refrain from prosecuting those who seek, provide, or support abortions.”
The prosecutors said enforcing abortion bans would also "hinder our ability to hold perpetrators accountable, take resources away from the enforcement of serious crime, and inevitably lead to the re-traumatization and criminalization of victims of sexual violence."
 
When the rightists brayed they favored "small government", who knew that they meant intrusive, petty politicians so puny that they insinuate themselves into wombs? The ideological fanatics' compulsion to dictate to private enterprise, medicine, science, education and local communities is cancerous.

Why not get your legislation done and avoid the courts?
 

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