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Bull crud...he disparaged them ALL, saying they were all dependent on gvt handouts which is simply a big fat lie.Romney didn't bash any of them. He stated how many there are, and he said there would be no point in pandering to people who are dead set for Obama.
And he was right on all counts.
He said 47% are receiving government aid.. IT'S A FACT. You leftist "gimme mine" groupies own this.. LOL I think it's hilarious you're all screeching and moaning about the truth hitting home now.
I'll say one thing.
It's now base against base. For reals. I'm afraid that the center will go more towards Obama.
I don't think so. With the horrible economy and Obama's complete failure with foreign policy, I'd give the middle to Romney.
I've yet to hear any liberal address Obama's promise to make energy prices, "SKYROCKET" which they have.. and we've seen that people needing assistance with their energy bills have also sky-rocketed. Liberals don't know how to add two plus two.. Why the hell do you think more people need more assistance under this President?? JUST COINCIDENCE???!! The enslavement of the Entitlement nation.. You people are a bunch of ignorant sheep who CHOOSE to remain braindead.
really? Okay dearest, then you tell us all what "being dependent" on the gvt means?bull crap....just because they owe no federal income taxes does not mean they are on the federal welfare dole....many just did not earn enough to owe any income taxes....
but they still paid federal gasoline taxes and federal cigarette taxes and federal social security taxes and federal medicare taxes and other federal excise taxes....all of which these taxes are used to pay for the federal budget and reduces the yearly deficits of the federal budget spending.
Being on the federal welfare dole is not the same as being dependent.
But I don't expect you to understand such fine points. You're too busy scrambling to promote lies and establish a tyranny.
Twice since I began working , the federal gvt has changed what I was promised in social security and reduced benefits...and they are going to do it again...so what we pay in social security and what we were promised to get, there is no guarantee....same with medicare....there is no guarantee....many on the right do not say "income tax" they say they pay no taxes Newby, and in addition to this, income taxes are only 1/3 of the taxes collected to pay for the federal budget. I don't understand this twisting and turning that occurs? Why NOT include what is paid in SS taxes and Medicare taxes when these things are included in all of the federal budget spending that is touted by those on the right...why exclude the tax revenues collected for them while including them in the outlays and spending? It just makes no sense and is only done to twist and turn things so that they are deceiving imo.They're not paying federal income taxes, which I believe is the topic of discussion with regards to taxes? Certainly they're paying social security, unemployments, state, local, etc.. but not federal.
and in addition to those taxes collected by the working class to pay for the budget are cigarette taxes and gasoline taxes of which these lower 50% earners pay as well....which goes towards the federal budget....
and then you take all that they purchase from corporations, of which a good portion of the corporate taxes paid are retrieved from....
these people ARE paying federal taxes that contribute to paying for the federal budget.
As said, it is deceiving to take out payroll taxes and these other taxes that they pay while including the cost of social security and the cost of medicare in the budget...in the federal spending...
and in my opinion it is ONLY DONE to deceive...the averalge voter on the right....it's done to infuriate them...it's done as a lie....imo.
Why exclude what's being paid into SS and medicare?? Well, that's simple, because at some point, you're going to take that money right back out of the system when you're retired. SS and medicare were supposed to be separate funds, kept set aside, but we all know that they're not. And how much of what is collected in SS and medicare every day is going right back out the door to support those who are currently collecting because that fund was pillaged?? It would be different if they were paying into it without the promise of getting it back at retirement, but that's not how it's supposed to work. Not only that, you're paying it and receiveing no ROI for your trouble either, which is why the whole SS system needs revamped. When you pay into SS without the benefit of receiving it back later, then you might have a point that it should be counted as part of their tax contribution, but until then it should not.
And as far as coroporations go, you're right, so why does the left want to hurt the poor by raising taxes on corporations only to have them increase the price of their product or service, causing the poor to pay even more for them? Instead they demonize the corporations and try to get the poor suckers that are buying their goods and services to demonize right along with them since most of them are too ignorant to understand they're raising their own costs. It's brilliant when you think of it.
I don't see the 'deception'? Deception in what regards? The only deception I see is a bunch of elitist, very wealthy leftists that have made their fortunes off of the results of captialism urging those less fortunate to hate those that have succeeded because they only seek to control and use them to t
heir own ends, power and greed.
Reading is not your strong suit is it?
What the quote said was that 2/3 of the 47% pay PAYROLL TAXES
Which for those with reading issues, means they work for a living
Not only they are working for a living, they are paying for a good portion of the federal budget spending that is touted to be too high... left and right.
"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right -- there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent on government, who believe that, that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them. Who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing."
Romney continues by saying:
"they will vote for this president no matter what These are people who pay no income tax. My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
Read more: Romney's closed door comments caught on tape (Includes interview)
Listen to the tape at the link.
Obviously you don't now that anyone under 18 is considered a minor.
peace...
Twice since I began working , the federal gvt has changed what I was promised in social security and reduced benefits...and they are going to do it again...so what we pay in social security and what we were promised to get, there is no guarantee....same with medicare....there is no guarantee....many on the right do not say "income tax" they say they pay no taxes Newby, and in addition to this, income taxes are only 1/3 of the taxes collected to pay for the federal budget. I don't understand this twisting and turning that occurs? Why NOT include what is paid in SS taxes and Medicare taxes when these things are included in all of the federal budget spending that is touted by those on the right...why exclude the tax revenues collected for them while including them in the outlays and spending? It just makes no sense and is only done to twist and turn things so that they are deceiving imo.
and in addition to those taxes collected by the working class to pay for the budget are cigarette taxes and gasoline taxes of which these lower 50% earners pay as well....which goes towards the federal budget....
and then you take all that they purchase from corporations, of which a good portion of the corporate taxes paid are retrieved from....
these people ARE paying federal taxes that contribute to paying for the federal budget.
As said, it is deceiving to take out payroll taxes and these other taxes that they pay while including the cost of social security and the cost of medicare in the budget...in the federal spending...
and in my opinion it is ONLY DONE to deceive...the averalge voter on the right....it's done to infuriate them...it's done as a lie....imo.
Why exclude what's being paid into SS and medicare?? Well, that's simple, because at some point, you're going to take that money right back out of the system when you're retired. SS and medicare were supposed to be separate funds, kept set aside, but we all know that they're not. And how much of what is collected in SS and medicare every day is going right back out the door to support those who are currently collecting because that fund was pillaged?? It would be different if they were paying into it without the promise of getting it back at retirement, but that's not how it's supposed to work. Not only that, you're paying it and receiveing no ROI for your trouble either, which is why the whole SS system needs revamped. When you pay into SS without the benefit of receiving it back later, then you might have a point that it should be counted as part of their tax contribution, but until then it should not.
And as far as coroporations go, you're right, so why does the left want to hurt the poor by raising taxes on corporations only to have them increase the price of their product or service, causing the poor to pay even more for them? Instead they demonize the corporations and try to get the poor suckers that are buying their goods and services to demonize right along with them since most of them are too ignorant to understand they're raising their own costs. It's brilliant when you think of it.
I don't see the 'deception'? Deception in what regards? The only deception I see is a bunch of elitist, very wealthy leftists that have made their fortunes off of the results of captialism urging those less fortunate to hate those that have succeeded because they only seek to control and use them to t
heir own ends, power and greed.
(I do agree with you that these funds and the spending on these programs should have been kept separate...but they are NOT separate and they are included in the federal SPENDING that is quoted all the time, and IF THEY ARE GOING to be included in the Federal budget spending, which reflects the budget deficit, then they should be included with what taxes are being collected to pay for this spending....to not include them is deceiving) does anyone at all, ever quote the budget spending without social security and medicare? NEVER.
And, when it comes time for repaying those Social security surplus taxes that were used to mask the deficit the past 30 years, our government is going renege or have to raise income taxes big time to repay them.....so we will see if we really get all the money back in excess SS taxes that we have paid....my bet, is that we won't get the money back in full....or they will devalue the dollar so much that it won't matter....
As far as corporate income taxes that the individual that buys their goods are really paying a good portion of....I can agree with you on that....
and romney said that these people not paying income taxes were government dependent people...what does that mean Newby? When MOST of the people who owe nothing in income taxes, owe nothing because they earned too little to owe anything....about 10k a year or 20k a year if married...and you and I and romney pay no income taxes on that first 10k as well, so these people are not getting away with anything that the wealthiest are not also getting away with or that you and I are not getting away with(for the lack of a better term)....they just owe no taxes based on lower incomes.
sooo, to me, the whole statement that these 47% are gvt dependent is simply one of the biggest gaffs of Romney yet....
Awesome! Mitt plans to cut both unemployment and Medicare.And kgrill. I believe Annie has also admitted to getting government handouts in the past.Sure they are. There are plenty of poor idiots or people living off of government checks on this site alone who plan to vote for him.
Warrior
Stephanie
Two Thumbs
Lovebear
etc....
Oh the list goes on. Sniper is on unemployment, Willow is on Medicare, etc.....89% of them may be an understatement.
Awesome! Mitt plans to cut both unemployment and Medicare.And kgrill. I believe Annie has also admitted to getting government handouts in the past.
Oh the list goes on. Sniper is on unemployment, Willow is on Medicare, etc.....89% of them may be an understatement.
Talk about people voting against their own best interests.
