Romney's Mormon Patriotism: 5 Privileged Sons and No Volunteers?

[JakeStarkey]

Both parties, their leaders, and the presidents were responsible for the melt down.

The American people's greed from bottom to top was responsible for the melt down.

 

[JoeB131]

Both parties, their leaders, and the presidents were responsible for the melt down.

The American people's greed from bottom to top was responsible for the melt down.

That's kind of a cop out, isn't it, Jake.

The homeowner who got stuck in an underwater mortgage (which is where I'm at right now) is not to blame for this mess. Nor is the worker who got his job shipped to China because his corporation wanted to make a few more bucks.

 

[JoeB131]

It isn't a matter of how hard you work, it's a matter of how unethical you are in order to advance yourself. This is not a system where virtue wins... and it should."Who can I fuck over to advance myself. It isn't a matter of how hard you work, it's a matter of how unethical you are in order to advance yourself. These are your rantings.
They certainly imply that anyone who has done well economically did it according to your words.

Ummm, guy, didn't say EVERYONE was like that. Sorry, I just didn't. I did point out there are too many people who do think like that and they are a large part of the problem. The sad thing is, our system rewards them. So when it all did crash, they got bailouts, they got



snipping the "Democrats did it, too whining, we get to this.

I have opposed and continue to oppose any and all bailouts regardless of who is president.
The Banks certainly played a big part in the Financial Melt Down.If the New York Fed, and Barney and Dodd had done their jobs the impact might have been less chaotic.
The New York Fed and Barney and Dodd deserved a thorough and complete investigation. It didn't happen.

So did Chris Cox, who was Bush's boy at the FEC. His staff was too busy watching Porn to actually investigate the banks.

But here's the problem with your whine here. Let's all admit that Cox and Frank and Dodd and the Chairman of the Fed were all very poor watchdogs. At the end of the day, the chickens were still stolen by foxes, and blaming the watchdogs is kind of silly.

To date, none of the Foxes have gone to prison, and that's the problem.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Both parties, their leaders, and the presidents were responsible for the melt down.

The American people's greed from bottom to top was responsible for the melt down.

The homeowner who got stuck in an underwater mortgage (which is where I'm at right now) is not to blame for this mess. Nor is the worker who got his job shipped to China because his corporation wanted to make a few more bucks.

If it is true, which I do believe, first, Americans greed from top to bottom, rooted in the false value of thinking people can receive worth in excess of an item's intrinsic assessment, was responsible for the Recession. Second is the stupidity those Americans held close to their heart with their cupidity that they would be exempt from paying the piper when the debt came due.

For those of us who saw as early as 2002 what was happening, immediately eliminated useless debt as quickly as possible, and waited. We have been buying in four states at proper prices and are making money hands over fist. We were not greedy. We prepared. We prosper. And are preparing for the economy of Europe to shatter, if that comes to pass. We are prepared.

 

[JoeB131]

Both parties, their leaders, and the presidents were responsible for the melt down.

The American people's greed from bottom to top was responsible for the melt down.

The homeowner who got stuck in an underwater mortgage (which is where I'm at right now) is not to blame for this mess. Nor is the worker who got his job shipped to China because his corporation wanted to make a few more bucks.

If it is true, which I do believe, first, Americans greed from top to bottom, rooted in the false value of thinking people can receive worth in excess of an item's intrinsic assessment, was responsible for the Recession. Second is the stupidity those Americans held close to their heart with their cupidity that they would be exempt from paying the piper when the debt came due.

For those of us who saw as early as 2002 what was happening, immediately eliminated useless debt as quickly as possible, and waited. We have been buying in four states at proper prices and are making money hands over fist. We were not greedy. We prepared. We prosper. And are preparing for the economy of Europe to shatter, if that comes to pass. We are prepared.

Well, take care of yourself, that's what your sort is good at.

 

[JakeStarkey]

JoeB, don't be gloomy. You can prepare, too. Economics, finance, human stupidity in history are not opaque mirrors. Boy Scouts are prepared. And they help old ladies across the street. And like the Gerald Fords of the world, they are not afraid of social entitlements for those that need them. Cheer up, Mr. Gloomy.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Republicans are happy to volunteer other people's children to die for them. Just don't ask them to pay taxes - that's too great a sacrifice to make for country.

signed Lyndon Baines Johnson

 

[Trajan]

Romney's Mormon Patriotism: 5 Privileged Sons and No Volunteers?

Is this still the correct age list for the 5 wonder boys: Mitt and Ann Romney have 5 children, all sons: Tagg (37 years old), Matt (36), Josh (32), Ben (29), and Craig (26)?

Is it a religious thing or a class thing that keeps all 5 Romney sons out of harms way, while reaping most of the benefits of being an American?

like you gave a shit when Palins son was in the infantry IN Iraq?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Republicans are happy to volunteer other people's children to die for them. Just don't ask them to pay taxes - that's too great a sacrifice to make for country.

signed Lyndon Baines Johnson

/s/ LBJ /s/ Jack Kennedy /s/ Dick Nixon /s/ Gerald Ford /s/ Jimmy Cater /s/ Ronnie Reagan
/s/ George H. W. Bush /s/ Al Gore /s/ Bob Dole /s/ George Bush /s/ Al Gore /s/ John Kerry /s/ John McCain

Oh, wait, they all served. dems and pubs who don't get it can stick their heads up their butts.

 

[Trajan]

Republicans are happy to volunteer other people's children to die for them. Just don't ask them to pay taxes - that's too great a sacrifice to make for country.

signed Lyndon Baines Johnson

/s/ LBJ /s/ Jack Kennedy /s/ Dick Nixon /s/ Gerald Ford /s/ Jimmy Cater /s/ Ronnie Reagan
/s/ George H. W. Bush /s/ Al Gore /s/ Bob Dole /s/ George Bush /s/ Al Gore /s/ John Kerry /s/ John McCain

Oh, wait, they all served. dems and pubs who don't get it can stick their heads up their butts.

Johnson's birth year (1908) put him out of the loop for them all, ww1, ww2, korea et al..its not his fault..*shrugs*

 

[JakeStarkey]

I am tired of far right wacks and far left weirdos trying to rewrite our nation's narrative, Trajan.

1941 After the bombing of Pearl Harbor on December 7, Johnson became the first member of Congress to volunteer for active duty in the armed forces (U.S. Navy), reporting for active duty on December 9, 1941.

1942 Johnson received the Silver Star from General Douglas MacArthur for gallantry in action during an aerial combat mission over hostile positions in New Guinea on June 9. President Roosevelt ordered all members of Congress in the armed forces to return to their offices, and Johnson was released from active duty on July 16, 1942.

http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/biographys.hom/lbj_bio.asp

 

[Trajan]

wow, at what 33? good for him..


and I don't think he meant it that way, I think he meant that Johnson put us in Vietnam with both feet.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Reid Uses his Office to Financially Benefit his Sons
Harry Reid has four sons who all work for Nevada’s largest law firm, Lionel, Sawyer & Collins. All of them have benefited from Reid.
Here’s how the Los Angeles Times puts it:
But Harry Reid is in a class by himself. One of his sons and his son-in-law lobby in Washington for companies, trade groups and municipalities seeking Reid’s help in the Senate. A second son has lobbied in Nevada for some of those same interests, and a third has represented a couple of them as a litigator.
In the last four years alone, their firms have collected more than $2 million in lobbying fees from special interests that were represented by the kids and helped by the senator in Washington.
Apparently such activities are not illegal. They should be. They are certainly unethical. The article details half a dozen examples of specific legislation pushed by Reid which benefited his sons.

 

[Listening]

Notice the libs jump all over this one.

 

[Conservative]

Reid Uses his Office to Financially Benefit his Sons
Harry Reid has four sons who all work for Nevada’s largest law firm, Lionel, Sawyer & Collins. All of them have benefited from Reid.
Here’s how the Los Angeles Times puts it:
But Harry Reid is in a class by himself. One of his sons and his son-in-law lobby in Washington for companies, trade groups and municipalities seeking Reid’s help in the Senate. A second son has lobbied in Nevada for some of those same interests, and a third has represented a couple of them as a litigator.
In the last four years alone, their firms have collected more than $2 million in lobbying fees from special interests that were represented by the kids and helped by the senator in Washington.
Apparently such activities are not illegal. They should be. They are certainly unethical. The article details half a dozen examples of specific legislation pushed by Reid which benefited his sons.

a link is customary.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Reid Uses...

Harry is NOT running to represent or lead America. He is a US Senator.

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[Procrustes Stretched]

Dante is invisible

Dante could successfully start his own religion

Cool Romney's Mormon Patriotism: 5 Privileged Sons and No Volunteers?

Is this still the correct age list for the 5 wonder boys: Mitt and Ann Romney have 5 children, all sons: Tagg (37 years old), Matt (36), Josh (32), Ben (29), and Craig (26)?

Is it a religious thing or a class thing that keeps all 5 Romney sons out of harms way, while reaping most of the benefits of being an American?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Romney's Mormon Patriotism: 5 Privileged Sons and No Volunteers?

Is this still the correct age list for the 5 wonder boys: Mitt and Ann Romney have 5 children, all sons: Tagg (37 years old), Matt (36), Josh (32), Ben (29), and Craig (26)?

Is it a religious thing or a class thing that keeps all 5 Romney sons out of harms way, while reaping most of the benefits of being an American?

like you gave a shit when Palins son was in the infantry IN Iraq?

goof ball post

 

[tinydancer]

Dante is invisible

Dante could successfully start his own religion

Cool Romney's Mormon Patriotism: 5 Privileged Sons and No Volunteers?

Is this still the correct age list for the 5 wonder boys: Mitt and Ann Romney have 5 children, all sons: Tagg (37 years old), Matt (36), Josh (32), Ben (29), and Craig (26)?

Is it a religious thing or a class thing that keeps all 5 Romney sons out of harms way, while reaping most of the benefits of being an American?

Obviously I missed the era of Chelsea Clinton serving her country in the military while reaping the benefits of being an American.

Or the Bush's daughters.

And by your standards, hell's bells we better see Obama's two lovely daughters signing up for military service for all the benefits they have reaped as Americans.

Now I'm pointing out all of these President's children that have not served in jest. I don't expect everyone in the nation to have the capability of meeting the requirements for the Armed Forces.

And I don't hold it against them.

It's ridiculous to assume that military service is the only way to serve your country.

It's a bullshit argument.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Romney's Mormon Patriotism: 5 Privileged Sons and No Volunteers?

Is this still the correct age list for the 5 wonder boys: Mitt and Ann Romney have 5 children, all sons: Tagg (37 years old), Matt (36), Josh (32), Ben (29), and Craig (26)?

Is it a religious thing or a class thing that keeps all 5 Romney sons out of harms way, while reaping most of the benefits of being an American?

like you gave a shit when Palins son was in the infantry IN Iraq?

Great call-out.