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If you don't mind doing it every few months, a big downside. And even then it's just more for your own comfort, as the typical car rust will proceed as normal on most of the car.Every word of that is wrong. The best undercoating is non-hardening oil-based spray-on.
Ziebart was a scamThe only way to rust proof a car is to keep it in a vacuum chamber forever.
Or make it out of gold.
It cannot be done.
And for the love of Jesus, DO NOT USE THE ZIEBART SPRAY COATING, unless you do not plan to keep the vehicle for very long. It traps in moisture and results in worse frame rot than if you didn't have it.
If you don't mind doing it every few months, a big downside. And even then it's just more for your own comfort, as the typical car rust will proceed as normal on most of the car.
Also, it's a useless scam on newer vehicles, which already come with corrosion Protection.
You don't understand how iron oxide forms, do you. (That's not a question.)Ziebart was a scam
They promised to prevent rust on your underside by spraying a thick undercoating.
In reality, it trapped moisture between the undercoating and the body. You were better off without it
Yes I doYou don't understand how iron oxide forms, do you. (That's not a question.)
And the oil-based coatings don't really hold up on daily drivers. You will get the same results just cleaning the underbody frequently.Yes I do
You trap moisture between the frame and the rustproof, you are going to get rust
You just proved it. Again. I'll let you try to figure out why you're wrong.Yes I do
You trap moisture between the frame and the rustproof, you are going to get rust
Describe in detail YOUR experience with oil undercoating. Be specific.And the oil-based coatings don't really hold up on daily drivers. You will get the same results just cleaning the underbody frequently.
Now, if you buy a used vehicle with lots of rust already, oil coatings can help slow the process, which will be accelerated if left on its own.
Admittedly, none. Just what I have heard re: newer vehicle vs. Oder vehicles, and the idea that it doest even last the full year between applications on Daly drivers.Describe in detail YOUR experience with oil undercoating. Be specific.
So...the sum total of your knowledge is-exactly-zero. Therefore, everything you post can be disregarded.Admittedly, none. Just what I have heard re: newer vehicle vs. Oder vehicles, and the idea that it doest even last the full year between applications on Daly drivers.
The only gushing over it see are in ads from people who sell it or who charge to apply it.
That's some pretty special and whiny illogic. Let me guess: you work at an auto shop and sell these coatings. Or you have another vaginal infection. Because you sure are grumpy.So...the sum total of your knowledge is-exactly-zero. Therefore, everything you post can be disregarded.
That's some pretty special and whiny illogic. Let me guess: you work at an auto shop and sell these coatings. Or you have another vaginal infection. Because you sure are grumpy.
I don't study quantum physics either. But if I say something correct about it, it is still correct. That's why you sound so whiny and childish.No, I don't sell rustproofing.
Yet again: the sum total of your knowledge is-exactly-zero. Therefore, everything you post can be disregarded. DISMISSED!
You don't know what the fuck you're babbling about. By your own words, you have-exactly-zero experience of any kind with any oil-based undercoating of any kind. Therefore, you know somewhere between nothing and slightly less about the subject and therefore, you should shut your cake flap. Piss off, your betters are talking.I don't study quantum physics either. But if I say something correct about it, it is still correct. That's why you sound so whiny and childish.
I have zero experience shooting heroin, too. I can still talk about whether heroin is good or bad thoughYou don't know what the fuck you're babbling about. By your own words, you have-exactly-zero experience of any kind with any oil-based undercoating of any kind. Therefore, you know somewhere between nothing and slightly less about the subject and therefore, you should shut your cake flap. Piss off, your betters are talking.
I'm sorry, boy, I dismissed you already. Piss off, stop bothering your betters.I have zero experience shooting heroin, too. I can still talk about whether heroin is good or bad though
So, when you are done with your little hissy fit, how about giving us the elevator pitch? Tell us what is so great about non-hardening oil undercoating.
Off to the next childish hissy fit, I guess.I'm sorry, boy, I dismissed you already. Piss off, stop bothering your betters.
Stop annoying your betters, boy.Off to the next childish hissy fit, I guess.
Personally, I've always used WD-40 to help prevent rust.I have lived basically my entire life (1949-present) in Pittsburgh, which in terms of automotive rust, is probably the heart of the "Rust Belt." Our combination of winter snow and the extensive use of road salt made rust and corrosion the biggest factors in most cars' slow slide to the scrap heap. Some cars rusted more quickly than others, but almost no cars escaped it entirely. To be fair, this was a combination of poor paint technology in cars and our corrosive environment.
One of the biggest preventive measures that was used in the '60's and 70's was Ziebart rust-proofing. You took your car there immediately after purchasing it, they sprayed on gallons of their special goop, and you were supposedly protected. When the average car was $4,000, the Ziebart treatment was a little under $200. They guaranteed no rust-through if you brought the car back once a year for a quick once-over and possibly more goop. The remedy if the car did rust through was some amount of money to repair body damage - probably a thousand dollars or so.
But in all the hundreds of car-restoration programs I have watched, I have never seen a single car that had been rust-proofed. Maybe that's just because restorers focus on cars from the Southwest, but still it is noteworthy.
Has anyone reading had a significant experience with rust-proofing...had a car that lasted longer than expected or had a car where it didn't work out? The treatment was so extensive here that I'm curious whether it actually worked.
