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how does a man that is already living right at the edge of his means afford to add another mans premiums to his list of monthly bills and still be able to pay for his own families care.How does a man that can't afford insurance pay for the doctors to save his life? This is why many people will die when the ACA is repealed.
oh thats right, the non producer has more rights to health care than the one that works.
Alternate history games may be fun to play once and a while, however, it is foolish to take them seriously, jackass.Ryan confronted by cancer patient who says ObamaCare saved his life
But he said at 49 he was diagnosed with cancer and given six weeks to live.
"Thanks to the Affordable Care Act, I’m standing here today alive," he said. "I rely on the Affordable Care Act to be able to purchase my own insurance. Why would you repeal the Affordable Care Act without a replacement?"
Ryan responded: "Oh, we wouldn’t do that, we want to replace it with something better. First of all, I'm glad you're standing here."(laughing the whole time)
Jeans then took to the mic again to thank President Obama.
"I want to thank President Obama from the bottom of my heart, because I would be dead if it weren’t for him," he said.
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You can bet Paul Ryan wishes the guy was already dead.
So go ahead USMB Republicans. Tell us how you hope the guy dies. Tell us how elections have consequences. Go ahead. Tell us.
personally I dont care what the rich people do with THEIR money. If they want to throw it in the fire to heat the mansion, its THEIRS they earned it. And you are correct, there are many government expenses that could be cut. as far as the poor people, sorry about their luck, they are living the life they prepared themselves for. If when she is at the age that she can no longer have coverage on my health care plan, and she is unable to afford to purchase her own policy, I will make the payments on a policy for my daughter. MY DAUGHTER, Im not going to go out and beg strangers to pay for her, Im not going to steal from people to pay for her. I will do as I should, I will take care of my own family. And the whining over the health care, and the food, and the housing, and the phone and the clothing and the transportation,, where the hell does it stop? I have a boat, if some non working Piece of crap decides he wants a boat too, am I going to have to pay for him to have his boat? Where does it stop. How much of my income do you think should be left out in the open for these bastards to steal. when exactly can we expect some return from this investment?They're asking other people to pay for their shit… Then the government forces people to pay for other peoples shit… That's fucked uphere's the problem, if obamacare really did make it so this guy could afford the insurance, then he is not paying full price anyway, he is getting subsidies.
Now take the family that does not get the subsidies, and has some out of pocket like the 12 grand a year I would have if I had been forced to go on commie care. Now while this non producer gets his treatment for free, or next to it, there is someone out there that is going to watch their child die because even though they have the insurance required by law, the high premiums have left them scraping dollars just to eat, when their child ends up with some illness that could be cured, they wont be able to pay the out of pocket, so they have to sit back and watch their own child die just so some non productive piece of crap can get his free life saving care that will enable him to go on for another 30 or 40 years costing the taxpayers.
And Matthew, get off the christian bashing, this has nothing to do with Christians. it has to do with not being able to afford to care for your own family even though you make good money, just because you have to pay for some scumbag that you dont even know. I wonder how that guy feels knowing his "free" care will cost the lives of children. Sounds pretty Christian to me.
Plus, you sit there and condemn others for not wanting to go broke to save a few non producers, and then you turn around and want to kill everyone in the country? you sound more ignorant than anyone else here.
but back to the Christian thing, since the left has made it so clear that they dont want anything to do with Christianity in public places, in a school, a courtroom the side of a police car, or even on the money, why do you have an issue when people keep their Christianity hidden away when it actually might benefit you. No way in hell I would act in a christian like manner around you, Wouldn't want to offend you. You brought this on yourself.
How does it make you feel knowing that children are going to end up dying because their parents make enough to not get a subsidy but they dont make enough to pay the out of pocket. Be honest, as long as you get your free care paid for by them, the hell with them and their family.
hypocritical piece of trash.
Why is it so bad that people out there that are in bad situations get care?
Some of your taxes goes towards much worse things than helping people stay alive... but I don't see you complaining about that. Maybe if you took some of your energy you take to hate on people that want health care to improve their quality of life, and used to educate yourself on the rich people who are hiding their money overseas in tax havens... or on government programs that are almost entirely waste... then you might have a gripe. But this incessant whining over poor people that need help with health care and food is stale.
how about you go ahead and start a foundation for people to donate to that will cover the cost of insurance policies for these people. based on what Im hearing from the left there are only a few of us (and we all post on USMB) that would not contribute, you should end up with more than the current tax theft plan is providing.
It doesn't work that way. It's based on what you make. If you make lots of money, you pay more. That's why I pay as much as I do. My retirement income is significantly more than the median income in my state. I don't mind paying more. Because I could never afford to pay for a hundred and twenty five thousand hospital bill if something like that came up. And don't lie and say you could afford it either.kind of hard to live within your means when you get slammed with double the cost of your insurance premiums along with 12k out of pocket. or maybe you mean that those people should sell their house and downgrade, maybe get rid of their car and buy a POS car instead?If people were to live within their means a lot less shit to deal with then...K. Hurry along then please.Sure that can happen to me, but I could live with it I don't need someone else to pay for my shit whether I can afford it or not.With a little luck, you'll fall into some shit you can't afford and fuck offThey're asking other people to pay for their shit… Then the government forces people to pay for other peoples shit… That's fucked up
Shit happens
downgrade their lifestyle so they can afford to cover someone elses
what does being in the military have to do with the ACA, I keep seeing it referenced but I dont really understand the premise behind it.because you are expecting others that do provide for themselves and their families to give up the income they use to do that just so someone else can get free carehere's the problem, if obamacare really did make it so this guy could afford the insurance, then he is not paying full price anyway, he is getting subsidies.
Now take the family that does not get the subsidies, and has some out of pocket like the 12 grand a year I would have if I had been forced to go on commie care. Now while this non producer gets his treatment for free, or next to it, there is someone out there that is going to watch their child die because even though they have the insurance required by law, the high premiums have left them scraping dollars just to eat, when their child ends up with some illness that could be cured, they wont be able to pay the out of pocket, so they have to sit back and watch their own child die just so some non productive piece of crap can get his free life saving care that will enable him to go on for another 30 or 40 years costing the taxpayers.
And Matthew, get off the christian bashing, this has nothing to do with Christians. it has to do with not being able to afford to care for your own family even though you make good money, just because you have to pay for some scumbag that you dont even know. I wonder how that guy feels knowing his "free" care will cost the lives of children. Sounds pretty Christian to me.
Plus, you sit there and condemn others for not wanting to go broke to save a few non producers, and then you turn around and want to kill everyone in the country? you sound more ignorant than anyone else here.
but back to the Christian thing, since the left has made it so clear that they dont want anything to do with Christianity in public places, in a school, a courtroom the side of a police car, or even on the money, why do you have an issue when people keep their Christianity hidden away when it actually might benefit you. No way in hell I would act in a christian like manner around you, Wouldn't want to offend you. You brought this on yourself.
How does it make you feel knowing that children are going to end up dying because their parents make enough to not get a subsidy but they dont make enough to pay the out of pocket. Be honest, as long as you get your free care paid for by them, the hell with them and their family.
hypocritical piece of trash.
Why is it so bad that people out there that are in bad situations get care?
Why is it so bad to let somebody keep the money they earn so they can care for their family.
This is America and those that are able to provide for themselves do so because of those that can't always afford to pay for things like health care. Were you in the military?
How come Donald Trump pays zero in taxes. How come so many corporations pay zero. How come Mitt only paid 13% for the one year he released that single tax form and said he could have paid less? How come I pay over 30%? How come Buffet says he pays a less percentage than his secretary when he makes thousands of times more?personally I dont care what the rich people do with THEIR money. If they want to throw it in the fire to heat the mansion, its THEIRS they earned it. And you are correct, there are many government expenses that could be cut. as far as the poor people, sorry about their luck, they are living the life they prepared themselves for. If when she is at the age that she can no longer have coverage on my health care plan, and she is unable to afford to purchase her own policy, I will make the payments on a policy for my daughter. MY DAUGHTER, Im not going to go out and beg strangers to pay for her, Im not going to steal from people to pay for her. I will do as I should, I will take care of my own family. And the whining over the health care, and the food, and the housing, and the phone and the clothing and the transportation,, where the hell does it stop? I have a boat, if some non working Piece of crap decides he wants a boat too, am I going to have to pay for him to have his boat? Where does it stop. How much of my income do you think should be left out in the open for these bastards to steal. when exactly can we expect some return from this investment?They're asking other people to pay for their shit… Then the government forces people to pay for other peoples shit… That's fucked uphere's the problem, if obamacare really did make it so this guy could afford the insurance, then he is not paying full price anyway, he is getting subsidies.
Now take the family that does not get the subsidies, and has some out of pocket like the 12 grand a year I would have if I had been forced to go on commie care. Now while this non producer gets his treatment for free, or next to it, there is someone out there that is going to watch their child die because even though they have the insurance required by law, the high premiums have left them scraping dollars just to eat, when their child ends up with some illness that could be cured, they wont be able to pay the out of pocket, so they have to sit back and watch their own child die just so some non productive piece of crap can get his free life saving care that will enable him to go on for another 30 or 40 years costing the taxpayers.
And Matthew, get off the christian bashing, this has nothing to do with Christians. it has to do with not being able to afford to care for your own family even though you make good money, just because you have to pay for some scumbag that you dont even know. I wonder how that guy feels knowing his "free" care will cost the lives of children. Sounds pretty Christian to me.
Plus, you sit there and condemn others for not wanting to go broke to save a few non producers, and then you turn around and want to kill everyone in the country? you sound more ignorant than anyone else here.
but back to the Christian thing, since the left has made it so clear that they dont want anything to do with Christianity in public places, in a school, a courtroom the side of a police car, or even on the money, why do you have an issue when people keep their Christianity hidden away when it actually might benefit you. No way in hell I would act in a christian like manner around you, Wouldn't want to offend you. You brought this on yourself.
How does it make you feel knowing that children are going to end up dying because their parents make enough to not get a subsidy but they dont make enough to pay the out of pocket. Be honest, as long as you get your free care paid for by them, the hell with them and their family.
hypocritical piece of trash.
Why is it so bad that people out there that are in bad situations get care?
Some of your taxes goes towards much worse things than helping people stay alive... but I don't see you complaining about that. Maybe if you took some of your energy you take to hate on people that want health care to improve their quality of life, and used to educate yourself on the rich people who are hiding their money overseas in tax havens... or on government programs that are almost entirely waste... then you might have a gripe. But this incessant whining over poor people that need help with health care and food is stale.
how about you go ahead and start a foundation for people to donate to that will cover the cost of insurance policies for these people. based on what Im hearing from the left there are only a few of us (and we all post on USMB) that would not contribute, you should end up with more than the current tax theft plan is providing.
Jesus do you even understand how many flaws there are in your argument? Rich people use the same roads as us, are protected by the same military as us, use the same police and other types of services as us, are governed by the same government officials as us... all paid with tax dollars, of which they hide off shores and don't pay taxes on.
As far as poor people are poor because it is their fault? You are so full of shit it isn't even funny. The chances of a person born into poverty of getting out of poverty is no where near the same as a person born into an upper-middle class or higher family... but yeah, blame them for that. I love how you like to pick on poor people, it's easy to do after all right?
Who said he was laughing because the man had cancer?He wasn't laughing because the man had cancer, doofus. What you just did was fake and a lie.
PLUS ObamaCare did not save the man......doctors did.
Oh, I see how you did that. You pulled that out your ass and then tried to ASSign it to me.
This is what I actually wrote:
Ryan responded: "Oh, we wouldn’t do that, we want to replace it with something better. First of all, I'm glad you're standing here."(laughing the whole time)
To me, it looked like he was disrespecting the guy because he wasn't taking him seriously. But if you want to believe that he was laughing at the guy for having cancer, then maybe he was. Because we know that's how Republicans roll. They think up some things that never occurred to me. Because I'm not that way.
You are such a lying dipshit. Quote me where I said Ryan laughed at the man. Go ahead. I dare you.He wasn't laughing because the man had cancer, doofus. What you just did was fake and a lie.
PLUS ObamaCare did not save the man......doctors did.
It's derpy. What do you expect but lies and bullshit. Ryan didn't laugh at the man. What a load of crap you are derpy.
It is tragic they way Republcians work to screw over veterans. When I went into the service, the GI benefits were much higher. But in the late 70's, Republicans slashed GI benefits. They continue to do that today.what does being in the military have to do with the ACA, I keep seeing it referenced but I dont really understand the premise behind it.because you are expecting others that do provide for themselves and their families to give up the income they use to do that just so someone else can get free carehere's the problem, if obamacare really did make it so this guy could afford the insurance, then he is not paying full price anyway, he is getting subsidies.
Now take the family that does not get the subsidies, and has some out of pocket like the 12 grand a year I would have if I had been forced to go on commie care. Now while this non producer gets his treatment for free, or next to it, there is someone out there that is going to watch their child die because even though they have the insurance required by law, the high premiums have left them scraping dollars just to eat, when their child ends up with some illness that could be cured, they wont be able to pay the out of pocket, so they have to sit back and watch their own child die just so some non productive piece of crap can get his free life saving care that will enable him to go on for another 30 or 40 years costing the taxpayers.
And Matthew, get off the christian bashing, this has nothing to do with Christians. it has to do with not being able to afford to care for your own family even though you make good money, just because you have to pay for some scumbag that you dont even know. I wonder how that guy feels knowing his "free" care will cost the lives of children. Sounds pretty Christian to me.
Plus, you sit there and condemn others for not wanting to go broke to save a few non producers, and then you turn around and want to kill everyone in the country? you sound more ignorant than anyone else here.
but back to the Christian thing, since the left has made it so clear that they dont want anything to do with Christianity in public places, in a school, a courtroom the side of a police car, or even on the money, why do you have an issue when people keep their Christianity hidden away when it actually might benefit you. No way in hell I would act in a christian like manner around you, Wouldn't want to offend you. You brought this on yourself.
How does it make you feel knowing that children are going to end up dying because their parents make enough to not get a subsidy but they dont make enough to pay the out of pocket. Be honest, as long as you get your free care paid for by them, the hell with them and their family.
hypocritical piece of trash.
Why is it so bad that people out there that are in bad situations get care?
Why is it so bad to let somebody keep the money they earn so they can care for their family.
This is America and those that are able to provide for themselves do so because of those that can't always afford to pay for things like health care. Were you in the military?
It goes to show a point. You like to make it out as if poor people don't matter...
Well Can a Colonel fight a war without grunts? Can a General win a war without cooks and truck drivers? Yeah those are low level minions... but they matter. Does that mean because they are low level they don't deserve to get VA benefits and other benefits for veterans? No...let's shit on them because they were peons in the scheme of things right?
Well?
Well?
Thought so.
You can see Ryan is laughing. That can't be denied. Now, show where I said Ryan laughed AT the man. Or laughed because the guy had cancer. Go ahead. I dare you. Come on punk. Make the claim again asswipe. Prove it.You are such a lying dipshit. Quote me where I said Ryan laughed at the man. Go ahead. I dare you.He wasn't laughing because the man had cancer, doofus. What you just did was fake and a lie.
PLUS ObamaCare did not save the man......doctors did.
It's derpy. What do you expect but lies and bullshit. Ryan didn't laugh at the man. What a load of crap you are derpy.
How about the title of your OP, moron...
"Ryan confronted by cancer patient who says ObamaCare saved his life. Watch Ryan laugh."
In this case I don't have to think. Because I know.Well?
Well?
Thought so.
That's the problem. Most times you DON"T think.
In this case I don't have to think. Because I know.Well?
Well?
Thought so.
That's the problem. Most times you DON"T think.
Now I'm laughing at you fucktards.Who said he was laughing because the man had cancer?He wasn't laughing because the man had cancer, doofus. What you just did was fake and a lie.
PLUS ObamaCare did not save the man......doctors did.
Oh, I see how you did that. You pulled that out your ass and then tried to ASSign it to me.
This is what I actually wrote:
Ryan responded: "Oh, we wouldn’t do that, we want to replace it with something better. First of all, I'm glad you're standing here."(laughing the whole time)
To me, it looked like he was disrespecting the guy because he wasn't taking him seriously. But if you want to believe that he was laughing at the guy for having cancer, then maybe he was. Because we know that's how Republicans roll. They think up some things that never occurred to me. Because I'm not that way.
Don't try and pull your little mentally ill games on me. YOU were the one that said ''Watch Ryan laugh."
What were you referring to?
You can see Ryan is laughing. That can't be denied. Now, show where I said Ryan laughed AT the man. Or laughed because the guy had cancer. Go ahead. I dare you. Come on punk. Make the claim again asswipe. Prove it.You are such a lying dipshit. Quote me where I said Ryan laughed at the man. Go ahead. I dare you.He wasn't laughing because the man had cancer, doofus. What you just did was fake and a lie.
PLUS ObamaCare did not save the man......doctors did.
It's derpy. What do you expect but lies and bullshit. Ryan didn't laugh at the man. What a load of crap you are derpy.
How about the title of your OP, moron...
"Ryan confronted by cancer patient who says ObamaCare saved his life. Watch Ryan laugh."
You're a fool.In this case I don't have to think. Because I know.Well?
Well?
Thought so.
That's the problem. Most times you DON"T think.
and tell me, can a Colonel fight a war if all he has are his lower ranking people that do absolutely nothing? wont lift a finger, wont take care of themselves.what does being in the military have to do with the ACA, I keep seeing it referenced but I dont really understand the premise behind it.because you are expecting others that do provide for themselves and their families to give up the income they use to do that just so someone else can get free carehere's the problem, if obamacare really did make it so this guy could afford the insurance, then he is not paying full price anyway, he is getting subsidies.
Now take the family that does not get the subsidies, and has some out of pocket like the 12 grand a year I would have if I had been forced to go on commie care. Now while this non producer gets his treatment for free, or next to it, there is someone out there that is going to watch their child die because even though they have the insurance required by law, the high premiums have left them scraping dollars just to eat, when their child ends up with some illness that could be cured, they wont be able to pay the out of pocket, so they have to sit back and watch their own child die just so some non productive piece of crap can get his free life saving care that will enable him to go on for another 30 or 40 years costing the taxpayers.
And Matthew, get off the christian bashing, this has nothing to do with Christians. it has to do with not being able to afford to care for your own family even though you make good money, just because you have to pay for some scumbag that you dont even know. I wonder how that guy feels knowing his "free" care will cost the lives of children. Sounds pretty Christian to me.
Plus, you sit there and condemn others for not wanting to go broke to save a few non producers, and then you turn around and want to kill everyone in the country? you sound more ignorant than anyone else here.
but back to the Christian thing, since the left has made it so clear that they dont want anything to do with Christianity in public places, in a school, a courtroom the side of a police car, or even on the money, why do you have an issue when people keep their Christianity hidden away when it actually might benefit you. No way in hell I would act in a christian like manner around you, Wouldn't want to offend you. You brought this on yourself.
How does it make you feel knowing that children are going to end up dying because their parents make enough to not get a subsidy but they dont make enough to pay the out of pocket. Be honest, as long as you get your free care paid for by them, the hell with them and their family.
hypocritical piece of trash.
Why is it so bad that people out there that are in bad situations get care?
Why is it so bad to let somebody keep the money they earn so they can care for their family.
This is America and those that are able to provide for themselves do so because of those that can't always afford to pay for things like health care. Were you in the military?
It goes to show a point. You like to make it out as if poor people don't matter...
Well Can a Colonel fight a war without grunts? Can a General win a war without cooks and truck drivers? Yeah those are low level minions... but they matter. Does that mean because they are low level they don't deserve to get VA benefits and other benefits for veterans? No...let's shit on them because they were peons in the scheme of things right?
actually I was, so? whats your point? were you (Im betting not)because you are expecting others that do provide for themselves and their families to give up the income they use to do that just so someone else can get free carehere's the problem, if obamacare really did make it so this guy could afford the insurance, then he is not paying full price anyway, he is getting subsidies.
Now take the family that does not get the subsidies, and has some out of pocket like the 12 grand a year I would have if I had been forced to go on commie care. Now while this non producer gets his treatment for free, or next to it, there is someone out there that is going to watch their child die because even though they have the insurance required by law, the high premiums have left them scraping dollars just to eat, when their child ends up with some illness that could be cured, they wont be able to pay the out of pocket, so they have to sit back and watch their own child die just so some non productive piece of crap can get his free life saving care that will enable him to go on for another 30 or 40 years costing the taxpayers.
And Matthew, get off the christian bashing, this has nothing to do with Christians. it has to do with not being able to afford to care for your own family even though you make good money, just because you have to pay for some scumbag that you dont even know. I wonder how that guy feels knowing his "free" care will cost the lives of children. Sounds pretty Christian to me.
Plus, you sit there and condemn others for not wanting to go broke to save a few non producers, and then you turn around and want to kill everyone in the country? you sound more ignorant than anyone else here.
but back to the Christian thing, since the left has made it so clear that they dont want anything to do with Christianity in public places, in a school, a courtroom the side of a police car, or even on the money, why do you have an issue when people keep their Christianity hidden away when it actually might benefit you. No way in hell I would act in a christian like manner around you, Wouldn't want to offend you. You brought this on yourself.
How does it make you feel knowing that children are going to end up dying because their parents make enough to not get a subsidy but they dont make enough to pay the out of pocket. Be honest, as long as you get your free care paid for by them, the hell with them and their family.
hypocritical piece of trash.
Why is it so bad that people out there that are in bad situations get care?
Why is it so bad to let somebody keep the money they earn so they can care for their family.
This is America and those that are able to provide for themselves do so because of those that can't always afford to pay for things like health care. Were you in the military?
Now I'm laughing at you fucktards.Who said he was laughing because the man had cancer?He wasn't laughing because the man had cancer, doofus. What you just did was fake and a lie.
PLUS ObamaCare did not save the man......doctors did.
Oh, I see how you did that. You pulled that out your ass and then tried to ASSign it to me.
This is what I actually wrote:
Ryan responded: "Oh, we wouldn’t do that, we want to replace it with something better. First of all, I'm glad you're standing here."(laughing the whole time)
To me, it looked like he was disrespecting the guy because he wasn't taking him seriously. But if you want to believe that he was laughing at the guy for having cancer, then maybe he was. Because we know that's how Republicans roll. They think up some things that never occurred to me. Because I'm not that way.
Don't try and pull your little mentally ill games on me. YOU were the one that said ''Watch Ryan laugh."
What were you referring to?
This is what I said back in post #29:
Who said he was laughing because the man had cancer?
Oh, I see how you did that. You pulled that out your ass and then tried to ASSign it to me.
This is what I actually wrote:
Ryan responded: "Oh, we wouldn’t do that, we want to replace it with something better. First of all, I'm glad you're standing here."(laughing the whole time)
To me, it looked like he was disrespecting the guy because he wasn't taking him seriously. But if you want to believe that he was laughing at the guy for having cancer, then maybe he was. Because we know that's how Republicans roll. They think up some things that never occurred to me. Because I'm not that way.
