Sanders: Universal Healthcare and Free College Aren’t Radical Ideas, They Are ‘Human Rights’

[Andylusion]

The greatest nation on the face of the earth ought to have the healthiest and most well educated populace on the face of the earth. No?

Silly nutters.

Then how do you explain that our Democrat controlled public schools have 80% of students unable to read at grade level?

Cool stat, bro.......where'd ya get it?

I explain it by calling you out for BS. Schools are run locally. Blue states do better than red.....blue counties DESTROY red counties when it comes to quality of education.

The CONSERVATIVE agenda to make higher education something that only wealthy people can afford has damaged this nation. Ya dumb shit.

and those blue urban centers where schools spend shit tons of money and less than half the students make it past high school?.....

NYC spends $19,000/yr per student yet over 1/3 don't even graduate high school.

You can lead the ponies to water...

You don't invest in education by spending scads of money on "self-esteem" and free rides. You invest in education by teaching the students to invest in themselves: their time, their effort, and yes, their money at a certain point.

Yeah, I'm not sure why this is a hard concept for people on the left. The worst thing you can tell any person, is that they are entitled to it. If you are entitled, then by definition, you are waiting for someone to "give it to me". If you spend your life waiting for someone to give it to you, then you'll be poor, stupid, and bitter for the rest of your life. Or worse.... hopeless.

The best thing you can tell any person is, you don't get jack until you earn it.

 

[LoneLaugher]

So can you explain why Canadians who can afford to opt out of their national system and come to the US for health care do so?

The US Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions thought enough of Pipes to hear her testimony on the not-so-wonderfulness of gov't run healthcare. Just because she doesn't work at Socialists-R-Us doesn't mean she doesn't know her stuff.
In fact ...

Americans Who've Used Canada's Health-Care System Respond to Current Big-Lie Media Campaign

A couple of personal anecdotes are sweet but hardly proof that a gov't single-payer system is better as Cowboy Ted claimed, that it is best for the US as many claim, nor does it explain why so many Canadians come to the US for their medical care.

If Canada is so much better, why do they come here and why is Canadian dissatisfaction with their system rising?

Almost 90% of Canadians want health-care complaint line: survey

"A wave of discontent with the nation’s health-care system is sweeping across Canada, with the vast majority of Canadians revealing they feel like outsiders who are powerless to influence their own health care...

An Ipsos Reid survey, commissioned by the Canadian Medical Association and due to be released Monday at the organization’s annual general council meeting in St. John’s, N.L., shows that public satisfaction with the health system continues to slide."

The CMA has two subsidiaries: MD Financial Management and NewCo.

MD Financial Management is a wealth management firm wholly owned by the CMA. MD helps clients build wealth and capitalize on opportunities that ensure they meet their personal and professional goals. MD Financial Management includes MD Financial Management Inc., MD Management Limited, MD Private Trust Company, MD Life Insurance Company and MD Insurance Agency Limited.

NewCo is the temporary name of a new wholly owned CMA subsidiary. It was created on September 1, 2014. This subsidiary delivers information and knowledge products and services. NewCo includes the Canadian Medical Association Journal and PMI physician leadership courses. It also includes clinical tools such as DynaMed, RxTx and POEMs. NewCo also includes Conjoint Accreditation Services, which upholds national standards for the education of health professionals. NewCo is registered to conduct business as 8872147 Canada Inc. It will be formally launched with a permanent name and brand later in 2015.
Canadian Medical Association - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You continue to wiggle and squirm but have yet to explain why so many Canadians come to the US for medical treatment or the rising dissatisfaction with their gov't run healthcare system.

Being a driver in Cleveland, I run across Canadian truck drivers all the time at my stops. I always question them about their healthcare system.

Younger people love the system. You don't pay a dime, they take pretty good care of you, and you don't have to worry about insurance or anything like that. Of course, younger people have less serious conditions than the elder.

Older drivers, the exact opposite. For serious conditions, you don't want to be caught up in Canada. They always suggest that I write to my representatives and tell them to keep what we got. I've heard stories about botched surgeries, terrible care and long waits to get help. I do understand they are good and prescribing pain killers in Canada though. You're going to need them while your name is in line for the next hospital bed.

Bullshit.

 

[Cecilie1200]

So can you explain why Canadians who can afford to opt out of their national system and come to the US for health care do so?

The US Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions thought enough of Pipes to hear her testimony on the not-so-wonderfulness of gov't run healthcare. Just because she doesn't work at Socialists-R-Us doesn't mean she doesn't know her stuff.
In fact ...

Americans Who've Used Canada's Health-Care System Respond to Current Big-Lie Media Campaign

A couple of personal anecdotes are sweet but hardly proof that a gov't single-payer system is better as Cowboy Ted claimed, that it is best for the US as many claim, nor does it explain why so many Canadians come to the US for their medical care.

If Canada is so much better, why do they come here and why is Canadian dissatisfaction with their system rising?

Almost 90% of Canadians want health-care complaint line: survey

"A wave of discontent with the nation’s health-care system is sweeping across Canada, with the vast majority of Canadians revealing they feel like outsiders who are powerless to influence their own health care...

An Ipsos Reid survey, commissioned by the Canadian Medical Association and due to be released Monday at the organization’s annual general council meeting in St. John’s, N.L., shows that public satisfaction with the health system continues to slide."

The CMA has two subsidiaries: MD Financial Management and NewCo.

MD Financial Management is a wealth management firm wholly owned by the CMA. MD helps clients build wealth and capitalize on opportunities that ensure they meet their personal and professional goals. MD Financial Management includes MD Financial Management Inc., MD Management Limited, MD Private Trust Company, MD Life Insurance Company and MD Insurance Agency Limited.

NewCo is the temporary name of a new wholly owned CMA subsidiary. It was created on September 1, 2014. This subsidiary delivers information and knowledge products and services. NewCo includes the Canadian Medical Association Journal and PMI physician leadership courses. It also includes clinical tools such as DynaMed, RxTx and POEMs. NewCo also includes Conjoint Accreditation Services, which upholds national standards for the education of health professionals. NewCo is registered to conduct business as 8872147 Canada Inc. It will be formally launched with a permanent name and brand later in 2015.
Canadian Medical Association - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You continue to wiggle and squirm but have yet to explain why so many Canadians come to the US for medical treatment or the rising dissatisfaction with their gov't run healthcare system.

Being a driver in Cleveland, I run across Canadian truck drivers all the time at my stops. I always question them about their healthcare system.

Younger people love the system. You don't pay a dime, they take pretty good care of you, and you don't have to worry about insurance or anything like that. Of course, younger people have less serious conditions than the elder.

Older drivers, the exact opposite. For serious conditions, you don't want to be caught up in Canada. They always suggest that I write to my representatives and tell them to keep what we got. I've heard stories about botched surgeries, terrible care and long waits to get help. I do understand they are good and prescribing pain killers in Canada though. You're going to need them while your name is in line for the next hospital bed.

My husband had a friend from England with diabetes, who came here to live with his wife. He was always complaining about having to pay toward his diabetes supplies, since his health insurance had co-pays and deductibles. He waxed poetic about the wonders of England's health care system, where everything he needed was just handed to him without him ever having to even see a list of the costs if he didn't want to. Finally, Joe got tired of hearing it and sat him down for a little math lesson. He went through the difference in the taxes John paid in England versus what he paid here, how much the English government spends on their healthcare system, how much those supplies were costing (because believe it or not, leftists, John was still paying for his supplies in England), and how long it took him to get seen by a doctor in England versus how long it took here. Basically, ALL the costs involved, and the difference between "free" and "indirect payment".

It's not that John was too stupid to understand. It's that, like the left here in America, he had been trained to be lazy and superficial and never look past the first layer where the bill went somewhere else, to where the cost still came out of his pocket.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Americans Who've Used Canada's Health-Care System Respond to Current Big-Lie Media Campaign

A couple of personal anecdotes are sweet but hardly proof that a gov't single-payer system is better as Cowboy Ted claimed, that it is best for the US as many claim, nor does it explain why so many Canadians come to the US for their medical care.

If Canada is so much better, why do they come here and why is Canadian dissatisfaction with their system rising?

Almost 90% of Canadians want health-care complaint line: survey

"A wave of discontent with the nation’s health-care system is sweeping across Canada, with the vast majority of Canadians revealing they feel like outsiders who are powerless to influence their own health care...

An Ipsos Reid survey, commissioned by the Canadian Medical Association and due to be released Monday at the organization’s annual general council meeting in St. John’s, N.L., shows that public satisfaction with the health system continues to slide."

The CMA has two subsidiaries: MD Financial Management and NewCo.

MD Financial Management is a wealth management firm wholly owned by the CMA. MD helps clients build wealth and capitalize on opportunities that ensure they meet their personal and professional goals. MD Financial Management includes MD Financial Management Inc., MD Management Limited, MD Private Trust Company, MD Life Insurance Company and MD Insurance Agency Limited.

NewCo is the temporary name of a new wholly owned CMA subsidiary. It was created on September 1, 2014. This subsidiary delivers information and knowledge products and services. NewCo includes the Canadian Medical Association Journal and PMI physician leadership courses. It also includes clinical tools such as DynaMed, RxTx and POEMs. NewCo also includes Conjoint Accreditation Services, which upholds national standards for the education of health professionals. NewCo is registered to conduct business as 8872147 Canada Inc. It will be formally launched with a permanent name and brand later in 2015.
Canadian Medical Association - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You continue to wiggle and squirm but have yet to explain why so many Canadians come to the US for medical treatment or the rising dissatisfaction with their gov't run healthcare system.

Being a driver in Cleveland, I run across Canadian truck drivers all the time at my stops. I always question them about their healthcare system.

Younger people love the system. You don't pay a dime, they take pretty good care of you, and you don't have to worry about insurance or anything like that. Of course, younger people have less serious conditions than the elder.

Older drivers, the exact opposite. For serious conditions, you don't want to be caught up in Canada. They always suggest that I write to my representatives and tell them to keep what we got. I've heard stories about botched surgeries, terrible care and long waits to get help. I do understand they are good and prescribing pain killers in Canada though. You're going to need them while your name is in line for the next hospital bed.

My husband had a friend from England with diabetes, who came here to live with his wife. He was always complaining about having to pay toward his diabetes supplies, since his health insurance had co-pays and deductibles. He waxed poetic about the wonders of England's health care system, where everything he needed was just handed to him without him ever having to even see a list of the costs if he didn't want to. Finally, Joe got tired of hearing it and sat him down for a little math lesson. He went through the difference in the taxes John paid in England versus what he paid here, how much the English government spends on their healthcare system, how much those supplies were costing (because believe it or not, leftists, John was still paying for his supplies in England), and how long it took him to get seen by a doctor in England versus how long it took here. Basically, ALL the costs involved, and the difference between "free" and "indirect payment".

It's not that John was too stupid to understand. It's that, like the left here in America, he had been trained to be lazy and superficial and never look past the first layer where the bill went somewhere else, to where the cost still came out of his pocket.

Bullshit.

 

[Preacher]

Bernie is a socialist and that's how socialists think.

Of course he neglects to let everyone know that nothing is free and every taxpayer in America will be footing the bill for his "free" Stuff.

Of course those that can't pay their own way will love it but the taxpayers will be getting the shaft yet again.

Oh and as for universal health care?? Who in their right mind wants the Government responsible for the healthcare of 300 million Americans?

The Govt. who has never done anything cheaply or well in its entire history.

The Govt. where everything turns into mountains of red tape, regulations and bullshit.

Yep. That's what we need. The Govt. in control of our health care. Good God. Talk about a moronic idea.

We are already footing the bill for your republicans war adventures and tax breaks for the rich so...We would rather it go to help the majority of us not a rich 1%.

Then write them a fucking check and stop corrupting our laws and system of government to work out your own self-esteem issues.

No thanks. We will do what must be done to fix this problem.

"We" being you, the mouse in your pocket, and all the people you force to live in your socialist utopia whether they want to or not?

Don't even pretend that you're speaking for the majority of Americans. You're speaking for you and your little elitist clique of leftists who bypass the American people every time they tell you at the ballot box that they don't like your ideas "for their own good". Every single time you have to go to the courts and demand that they overturn the laws passed by the people and their elected representatives, and you start patting yourself on the back because what they wanted didn't meet up with your "superior" vision of morality, you demonstrate that your "we" is the "we" of a kidnapper and his hostage.

Then go live in your 1%er utopia. Not gonna continue here.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Bernie is a socialist and that's how socialists think.

Of course he neglects to let everyone know that nothing is free and every taxpayer in America will be footing the bill for his "free" Stuff.

Of course those that can't pay their own way will love it but the taxpayers will be getting the shaft yet again.

Oh and as for universal health care?? Who in their right mind wants the Government responsible for the healthcare of 300 million Americans?

The Govt. who has never done anything cheaply or well in its entire history.

The Govt. where everything turns into mountains of red tape, regulations and bullshit.

Yep. That's what we need. The Govt. in control of our health care. Good God. Talk about a moronic idea.

We are already footing the bill for your republicans war adventures and tax breaks for the rich so...We would rather it go to help the majority of us not a rich 1%.

So you want to do away with the military? Is that what you're saying?

Didn't you know that if we just give out hugs and stuffed puppies and put flowers in the barrels of foreign guns, we won't NEED a military, because everyone will be overwhelmed with love and never fight again.

Leftists think like my 1st grader, I swear. War is ugly, therefore it is always bad and unjustified, and we should just refuse to do it, no matter what other people do.

 

[dblack]

I have no complaints about what medical personnel make now because I know of their financial investment. But I would have a problem if I paid for their education with my tax dollars and they were able to become wealthy very quickly due to their fees. After college, it's all profit from there if they have no college loans to repay.

They pay close to $3,000 in student loans a month. They are on call and depending on location might score one or two days off a month. Many of them don't have a family life, don't make the money and don't do a lot of stuff. It isn't worth it to even go. People can't afford to go to the doctor or hospital now.

Tell me about it. I'm having some heart problems now and what they charge is outrageous. Just to see a cardiologist costs $750.00 a visit, and he doesn't even do much. Checks my blood pressure, pulse and listens to my heart. Then we talk for about ten minutes, he types in some stuff into his computer and that's it.

I bought insurance before this all started and now I'm fighting between them and the Clinic. They tell me I'm covered but when the Clinic calls for preauthorization, they tell them I'm not. It's a nightmare. I'm almost ready to lean towards Socialized medical care. This is expensive, a hassle and takes up hours of my time.

It is absolutely ridiculous. Health care is a nightmare. I have to ask, who and what are we defending? We can't access it and what we do have are crumbs. It costs more for us to have less. It is insane.

It's the classic trap of classic trap of abusing the power of democracy. We convince ourselves we can solve our problems by giving government more power, but that's not always the case. When we apply that power to problems that aren't appropriate for government to solve, we simply create more problems.

That sounds pretty on paper but does not address the issues.

That depends on what you think the "issues" are.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Bernie is a socialist and that's how socialists think.

Of course he neglects to let everyone know that nothing is free and every taxpayer in America will be footing the bill for his "free" Stuff.

Of course those that can't pay their own way will love it but the taxpayers will be getting the shaft yet again.

Oh and as for universal health care?? Who in their right mind wants the Government responsible for the healthcare of 300 million Americans?

The Govt. who has never done anything cheaply or well in its entire history.

The Govt. where everything turns into mountains of red tape, regulations and bullshit.

Yep. That's what we need. The Govt. in control of our health care. Good God. Talk about a moronic idea.

We are already footing the bill for your republicans war adventures and tax breaks for the rich so...We would rather it go to help the majority of us not a rich 1%.

Then write them a fucking check and stop corrupting our laws and system of government to work out your own self-esteem issues.

No thanks. We will do what must be done to fix this problem.

"We" being you, the mouse in your pocket, and all the people you force to live in your socialist utopia whether they want to or not?

Don't even pretend that you're speaking for the majority of Americans. You're speaking for you and your little elitist clique of leftists who bypass the American people every time they tell you at the ballot box that they don't like your ideas "for their own good". Every single time you have to go to the courts and demand that they overturn the laws passed by the people and their elected representatives, and you start patting yourself on the back because what they wanted didn't meet up with your "superior" vision of morality, you demonstrate that your "we" is the "we" of a kidnapper and his hostage.

Then go live in your 1%er utopia. Not gonna continue here.

Go live in your socialist utopia. There are already plenty of places that are embracing your bullshit wholeheartedly. You can tell them by how many of their people are trying to get here.

Why do you need to force the people here to live in another one, when they keep making it so clear that they don't want what you're selling? If they did, you idiots wouldn't have to constantly lie about what you're doing.

Truth is, your little tantrum remark is a trick. You and your ilk have no intention of letting anyone "go live in" a capitalist country. We had one here, and you insist on destroying it, and if we accepted your erroneous assumption that this is YOUR country to remake as you please with no regard for the wishes of its people and went to have a capitalist country somewhere else, you dipshits would just follow us, lay claim to THAT country, and busily start trying to force us to conform to your socialist fantasies THERE.

No thanks. The only choice we have, if we want to live in a free country where our lives aren't run by a benevolent dictatorship of leftist halfwits, is to fight you tooth and nail. And we'll do that right here.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You think that it's right that I made more money last year than you'll make in your entire life? And, I paid less percentage of my income in federal tax than you did too!

I seriously doubt that.

If you doubt that the wealthy pay less percentage of their income in federal tax than you and yours -- you're a complete fool. Loopholes are written for the rich, by Republicans.

I think he doubts that you make enough money to buy a cup of coffee every day.

 

[paulitician]

One day, people are gonna have to realize that they are not entitled to or deserve someone else's income. Taking someone's income by use of force is a crime. If anyone's Human Rights are being violated, it's them.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The ideas that all members of society should have access to a system of basic healthcare AND basic education regardless of their ability to pay

are simply commonsense ideas as to what a civilized society should be.

The uncivilized may disagree, but it is up to civilized society to render them powerless and irrelevant.

Here's the forum idiot yet again spouting off that taxpayers owe him free healthcare AND a college education. This from someone who doesn't even know that CVS fills prescriptions for contraceptives.

I think he also believes that PP is a major supplier of women's healthcare where there are "no other providers". Funny thing is, there's no place in this country that doesn't have basic healthcare for women, unless you live on a mountaintop in Idaho or something. In which case, it's your own damned fault. But PP has 820 or so clinics in the whole country, by their own count. Correct my math if I got it wrong, but in a nation with 158 million women, I'm going to say there's no way they're providing anything that isn't already available . . . except abortion.

The question becomes, why the hell do we listen to uninformed idealogues like NY on the subject of healthcare? Why do we take them seriously, or allow them to take themselves seriously?

 

[Andylusion]

Bernie is a socialist and that's how socialists think.

Of course he neglects to let everyone know that nothing is free and every taxpayer in America will be footing the bill for his "free" Stuff.

Of course those that can't pay their own way will love it but the taxpayers will be getting the shaft yet again.

Oh and as for universal health care?? Who in their right mind wants the Government responsible for the healthcare of 300 million Americans?

The Govt. who has never done anything cheaply or well in its entire history.

The Govt. where everything turns into mountains of red tape, regulations and bullshit.

Yep. That's what we need. The Govt. in control of our health care. Good God. Talk about a moronic idea.

We are already footing the bill for your republicans war adventures and tax breaks for the rich so...We would rather it go to help the majority of us not a rich 1%.

Then write them a fucking check and stop corrupting our laws and system of government to work out your own self-esteem issues.

No thanks. We will do what must be done to fix this problem.

"We" being you, the mouse in your pocket, and all the people you force to live in your socialist utopia whether they want to or not?

Don't even pretend that you're speaking for the majority of Americans. You're speaking for you and your little elitist clique of leftists who bypass the American people every time they tell you at the ballot box that they don't like your ideas "for their own good". Every single time you have to go to the courts and demand that they overturn the laws passed by the people and their elected representatives, and you start patting yourself on the back because what they wanted didn't meet up with your "superior" vision of morality, you demonstrate that your "we" is the "we" of a kidnapper and his hostage.

Then go live in your 1%er utopia. Not gonna continue here.

We have the highest quality of health care in the world. If that's not "gonna" continue here... then you are saying things will get worse and soon. I'd agree with that.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Bernie is a socialist and that's how socialists think.

Of course he neglects to let everyone know that nothing is free and every taxpayer in America will be footing the bill for his "free" Stuff.

Of course those that can't pay their own way will love it but the taxpayers will be getting the shaft yet again.

Oh and as for universal health care?? Who in their right mind wants the Government responsible for the healthcare of 300 million Americans?

The Govt. who has never done anything cheaply or well in its entire history.

The Govt. where everything turns into mountains of red tape, regulations and bullshit.

Yep. That's what we need. The Govt. in control of our health care. Good God. Talk about a moronic idea.

We are already footing the bill for your republicans war adventures and tax breaks for the rich so...We would rather it go to help the majority of us not a rich 1%.

The rich paid for the wars as well as for your social programs. You've paid for nothing at all.

Oh yes I have. Every time I go tag my car,pay insurance,buy groceries,buy ANYTHING,my taxes are paying for war and foreign aide....I don't care how much goes towards it its just the simple fact it does.

Your local taxes pay for war and foreign aid? My God, do you have any clue whatsoever how taxes and government work? What planet do you even live on?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Bernie is a socialist and that's how socialists think.

Of course he neglects to let everyone know that nothing is free and every taxpayer in America will be footing the bill for his "free" Stuff.

Of course those that can't pay their own way will love it but the taxpayers will be getting the shaft yet again.

Oh and as for universal health care?? Who in their right mind wants the Government responsible for the healthcare of 300 million Americans?

The Govt. who has never done anything cheaply or well in its entire history.

The Govt. where everything turns into mountains of red tape, regulations and bullshit.

Yep. That's what we need. The Govt. in control of our health care. Good God. Talk about a moronic idea.

We are already footing the bill for your republicans war adventures and tax breaks for the rich so...We would rather it go to help the majority of us not a rich 1%.

The rich paid for the wars as well as for your social programs. You've paid for nothing at all.

Oh yes I have. Every time I go tag my car,pay insurance,buy groceries,buy ANYTHING,my taxes are paying for war and foreign aide....I don't care how much goes towards it its just the simple fact it does.

And everytime a rich person pays INCOME TAXES, buys TAGS for his CARS, buys GROCERIES for his dinners and parties, or adds to his house or builds an extra garage, or anything else, he is paying one hell of a lot more in taxes than you.

Oh so now you want to pick and choose who gets to have a bigger say so....that's like letting the rich buy elections/candidates simply because they can.....you do realize how STUPID that sounds.I hope.

Why not? YOU want to do that. You want to turn rich people into voiceless golden geese you can profit off of while you tell them to shut up and stop being "greedy".

 

[Cecilie1200]

Oh and since the Rich CAN pay more they SHOULD pay more.

Why? Because you want it? Because you think no one "should" have more than you deem necessary? Because you're jealous and greedy? Because they owe you something?

 

[paulitician]

If you take someone's income by force, it's theft. It's a criminal act. And the U.S. Government is committing that crime on a historic grand scale at this point. It's stealing more of Citizens' income than ever before. So no, i can't support stealing more from Citizens. Sorry bout that.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Human rights? Oh the cheese has slipped off that boy's cracker.

just because you have no education and no health coverage doesn't mean no one else should, wacko.

You talk like we don't encourage you to stop being an ignorant leech, but that's just not so.

But no, I'm not interested in paying for it, because I honestly don't care if you die in a gutter. Stop demanding that I pay to preserve a life I don't value, namely yours. You think you're important? YOU fund yourself.

 

[Preacher]

We are already footing the bill for your republicans war adventures and tax breaks for the rich so...We would rather it go to help the majority of us not a rich 1%.

Then write them a fucking check and stop corrupting our laws and system of government to work out your own self-esteem issues.

No thanks. We will do what must be done to fix this problem.

"We" being you, the mouse in your pocket, and all the people you force to live in your socialist utopia whether they want to or not?

Don't even pretend that you're speaking for the majority of Americans. You're speaking for you and your little elitist clique of leftists who bypass the American people every time they tell you at the ballot box that they don't like your ideas "for their own good". Every single time you have to go to the courts and demand that they overturn the laws passed by the people and their elected representatives, and you start patting yourself on the back because what they wanted didn't meet up with your "superior" vision of morality, you demonstrate that your "we" is the "we" of a kidnapper and his hostage.

Then go live in your 1%er utopia. Not gonna continue here.

We have the highest quality of health care in the world. If that's not "gonna" continue here... then you are saying things will get worse and soon. I'd agree with that.

For the rich and others that can afford it yes I am sure it is.

If you take someone's income by force, it's theft. It's a criminal act. And the U.S. Government is committing that crime on a historic grand scale at this point. It's stealing more of Citizens' income than ever before. So no, i can't support stealing more from Citizens. Sorry bout that.

Don't want to pay taxes then you don't deserve to live in a society that depends on taxes to function. So we will confiscate the wealth you made HERE and you can be free to leave.

 

[paulitician]

Then write them a fucking check and stop corrupting our laws and system of government to work out your own self-esteem issues.

No thanks. We will do what must be done to fix this problem.

"We" being you, the mouse in your pocket, and all the people you force to live in your socialist utopia whether they want to or not?

Don't even pretend that you're speaking for the majority of Americans. You're speaking for you and your little elitist clique of leftists who bypass the American people every time they tell you at the ballot box that they don't like your ideas "for their own good". Every single time you have to go to the courts and demand that they overturn the laws passed by the people and their elected representatives, and you start patting yourself on the back because what they wanted didn't meet up with your "superior" vision of morality, you demonstrate that your "we" is the "we" of a kidnapper and his hostage.

Then go live in your 1%er utopia. Not gonna continue here.

We have the highest quality of health care in the world. If that's not "gonna" continue here... then you are saying things will get worse and soon. I'd agree with that.

For the rich and others that can afford it yes I am sure it is.

If you take someone's income by force, it's theft. It's a criminal act. And the U.S. Government is committing that crime on a historic grand scale at this point. It's stealing more of Citizens' income than ever before. So no, i can't support stealing more from Citizens. Sorry bout that.

Don't want to pay taxes then you don't deserve to live in a society that depends on taxes to function. So we will confiscate the wealth you made HERE and you can be free to leave.

The U.S. Government is already stealing Citizens' income at an all time record level. People really are just gonna have to start accepting that they're not entitled to or deserve someone else's income. That's not how it's supposed to work.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I don't think children can work their way through grade school AND make enough to pay for their medical bills,

if their parents are poor.

Wait, Obammycare fixed all that, according to you Communists....

ACA is a band aid. The only way to fix the most expensive healthcare is a single payer system that dictates price much like Walmart to their suppliers.

Just think; If Reagan hadn't screwed with the HMO act, we'd not have to deal with this.

Oh, it's all Reagan's fault.. at last you didn't blame it on Bush.