Sanders: Universal Healthcare and Free College Aren’t Radical Ideas, They Are ‘Human Rights’

[SAYIT]

...So we will confiscate the wealth you made HERE and you can be free to leave.

No, we won't.
Now get off your lazy duff and do something positive with it, Comrade.

 

[Papageorgio]

You think that it's right that I made more money last year than you'll make in your entire life? And, I paid less percentage of my income in federal tax than you did too!

I don't think it is right that you lie in every post, but you do.

 

[Andylusion]

Bernie is a socialist and that's how socialists think.

Of course he neglects to let everyone know that nothing is free and every taxpayer in America will be footing the bill for his "free" Stuff.

Of course those that can't pay their own way will love it but the taxpayers will be getting the shaft yet again.

Oh and as for universal health care?? Who in their right mind wants the Government responsible for the healthcare of 300 million Americans?

The Govt. who has never done anything cheaply or well in its entire history.

The Govt. where everything turns into mountains of red tape, regulations and bullshit.

Yep. That's what we need. The Govt. in control of our health care. Good God. Talk about a moronic idea.

We are already footing the bill for your republicans war adventures and tax breaks for the rich so...We would rather it go to help the majority of us not a rich 1%.

The rich paid for the wars as well as for your social programs. You've paid for nothing at all.

Oh yes I have. Every time I go tag my car,pay insurance,buy groceries,buy ANYTHING,my taxes are paying for war and foreign aide....I don't care how much goes towards it its just the simple fact it does.

Your local taxes pay for war and foreign aid? My God, do you have any clue whatsoever how taxes and government work? What planet do you even live on?

This is one of those left-wingers that has an ideological cork up their butt, and so they fart out of their mouths. Just ignore the gas.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Bernie is a socialist and that's how socialists think.

Of course he neglects to let everyone know that nothing is free and every taxpayer in America will be footing the bill for his "free" Stuff.

Of course those that can't pay their own way will love it but the taxpayers will be getting the shaft yet again.

Oh and as for universal health care?? Who in their right mind wants the Government responsible for the healthcare of 300 million Americans?

The Govt. who has never done anything cheaply or well in its entire history.

The Govt. where everything turns into mountains of red tape, regulations and bullshit.

Yep. That's what we need. The Govt. in control of our health care. Good God. Talk about a moronic idea.

We are already footing the bill for your republicans war adventures and tax breaks for the rich so...We would rather it go to help the majority of us not a rich 1%.

The rich paid for the wars as well as for your social programs. You've paid for nothing at all.

Oh yes I have. Every time I go tag my car,pay insurance,buy groceries,buy ANYTHING,my taxes are paying for war and foreign aide....I don't care how much goes towards it its just the simple fact it does.

Your local taxes pay for war and foreign aid? My God, do you have any clue whatsoever how taxes and government work? What planet do you even live on?

This is one of those left-wingers that has an ideological cork up their butt, and so they fart out of their mouths. Just ignore the gas.

Ewe....

 

[Disir]

Americans Who've Used Canada's Health-Care System Respond to Current Big-Lie Media Campaign

A couple of personal anecdotes are sweet but hardly proof that a gov't single-payer system is better as Cowboy Ted claimed, that it is best for the US as many claim, nor does it explain why so many Canadians come to the US for their medical care.

If Canada is so much better, why do they come here and why is Canadian dissatisfaction with their system rising?

Almost 90% of Canadians want health-care complaint line: survey

"A wave of discontent with the nation’s health-care system is sweeping across Canada, with the vast majority of Canadians revealing they feel like outsiders who are powerless to influence their own health care...

An Ipsos Reid survey, commissioned by the Canadian Medical Association and due to be released Monday at the organization’s annual general council meeting in St. John’s, N.L., shows that public satisfaction with the health system continues to slide."

The CMA has two subsidiaries: MD Financial Management and NewCo.

MD Financial Management is a wealth management firm wholly owned by the CMA. MD helps clients build wealth and capitalize on opportunities that ensure they meet their personal and professional goals. MD Financial Management includes MD Financial Management Inc., MD Management Limited, MD Private Trust Company, MD Life Insurance Company and MD Insurance Agency Limited.

NewCo is the temporary name of a new wholly owned CMA subsidiary. It was created on September 1, 2014. This subsidiary delivers information and knowledge products and services. NewCo includes the Canadian Medical Association Journal and PMI physician leadership courses. It also includes clinical tools such as DynaMed, RxTx and POEMs. NewCo also includes Conjoint Accreditation Services, which upholds national standards for the education of health professionals. NewCo is registered to conduct business as 8872147 Canada Inc. It will be formally launched with a permanent name and brand later in 2015.
Canadian Medical Association - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You continue to wiggle and squirm but have yet to explain why so many Canadians come to the US for medical treatment or the rising dissatisfaction with their gov't run healthcare system.

“42,000 Canadians come to the United States for care” – Really? - PNHP's Official Blog

No squirming here.

Your little free market bullshit doesn't work for the entire population. And when you look at who is representing this picture then you find out that, once again, there are people who are invested and profit off of maintaining the status quo.

2010: 44,794
2011: 46,159
2012: 42,173
Total 2001-2012: 133,126
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uploadedFiles/fraser-ca/Content/research-…

I never claimed that free market med care works best for everyone. I specifically refuted Cowboy Ted's claim that "Governments all over the world deliver Healthcare and Education cheaper and better than the fiasco that exists in US..." by pointing out the bogus nature of that claim.
The fact that those who can afford to come to the US for med treatment do so not because our care is "a fiasco" but rather because our care is better.
You've reinforced my claim that given a choice those who could "enjoy" their gov't-run healthcare at home would rather pay to come here for it. Thank you.

And you just bought hook, line and sinker inaccurate surveys that were obtained in an effort to destroy the health care that they have. We can also collect data on people that leave the US to obtain health care. You have to ask, who or what are you defending?

 

[Disir]

So can you explain why Canadians who can afford to opt out of their national system and come to the US for health care do so?

The US Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions thought enough of Pipes to hear her testimony on the not-so-wonderfulness of gov't run healthcare. Just because she doesn't work at Socialists-R-Us doesn't mean she doesn't know her stuff.
In fact ...

Americans Who've Used Canada's Health-Care System Respond to Current Big-Lie Media Campaign

A couple of personal anecdotes are sweet but hardly proof that a gov't single-payer system is better as Cowboy Ted claimed, that it is best for the US as many claim, nor does it explain why so many Canadians come to the US for their medical care.

If Canada is so much better, why do they come here and why is Canadian dissatisfaction with their system rising?

Almost 90% of Canadians want health-care complaint line: survey

"A wave of discontent with the nation’s health-care system is sweeping across Canada, with the vast majority of Canadians revealing they feel like outsiders who are powerless to influence their own health care...

An Ipsos Reid survey, commissioned by the Canadian Medical Association and due to be released Monday at the organization’s annual general council meeting in St. John’s, N.L., shows that public satisfaction with the health system continues to slide."

The CMA has two subsidiaries: MD Financial Management and NewCo.

MD Financial Management is a wealth management firm wholly owned by the CMA. MD helps clients build wealth and capitalize on opportunities that ensure they meet their personal and professional goals. MD Financial Management includes MD Financial Management Inc., MD Management Limited, MD Private Trust Company, MD Life Insurance Company and MD Insurance Agency Limited.

NewCo is the temporary name of a new wholly owned CMA subsidiary. It was created on September 1, 2014. This subsidiary delivers information and knowledge products and services. NewCo includes the Canadian Medical Association Journal and PMI physician leadership courses. It also includes clinical tools such as DynaMed, RxTx and POEMs. NewCo also includes Conjoint Accreditation Services, which upholds national standards for the education of health professionals. NewCo is registered to conduct business as 8872147 Canada Inc. It will be formally launched with a permanent name and brand later in 2015.
Canadian Medical Association - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You continue to wiggle and squirm but have yet to explain why so many Canadians come to the US for medical treatment or the rising dissatisfaction with their gov't run healthcare system.

Being a driver in Cleveland, I run across Canadian truck drivers all the time at my stops. I always question them about their healthcare system.

Younger people love the system. You don't pay a dime, they take pretty good care of you, and you don't have to worry about insurance or anything like that. Of course, younger people have less serious conditions than the elder.

Older drivers, the exact opposite. For serious conditions, you don't want to be caught up in Canada. They always suggest that I write to my representatives and tell them to keep what we got. I've heard stories about botched surgeries, terrible care and long waits to get help. I do understand they are good and prescribing pain killers in Canada though. You're going to need them while your name is in line for the next hospital bed.

10 Myths About Canadian Health Care, Busted | Physicians for a National Health Program

 

[Disir]

Americans Who've Used Canada's Health-Care System Respond to Current Big-Lie Media Campaign

A couple of personal anecdotes are sweet but hardly proof that a gov't single-payer system is better as Cowboy Ted claimed, that it is best for the US as many claim, nor does it explain why so many Canadians come to the US for their medical care.

If Canada is so much better, why do they come here and why is Canadian dissatisfaction with their system rising?

Almost 90% of Canadians want health-care complaint line: survey

"A wave of discontent with the nation’s health-care system is sweeping across Canada, with the vast majority of Canadians revealing they feel like outsiders who are powerless to influence their own health care...

An Ipsos Reid survey, commissioned by the Canadian Medical Association and due to be released Monday at the organization’s annual general council meeting in St. John’s, N.L., shows that public satisfaction with the health system continues to slide."

The CMA has two subsidiaries: MD Financial Management and NewCo.

MD Financial Management is a wealth management firm wholly owned by the CMA. MD helps clients build wealth and capitalize on opportunities that ensure they meet their personal and professional goals. MD Financial Management includes MD Financial Management Inc., MD Management Limited, MD Private Trust Company, MD Life Insurance Company and MD Insurance Agency Limited.

NewCo is the temporary name of a new wholly owned CMA subsidiary. It was created on September 1, 2014. This subsidiary delivers information and knowledge products and services. NewCo includes the Canadian Medical Association Journal and PMI physician leadership courses. It also includes clinical tools such as DynaMed, RxTx and POEMs. NewCo also includes Conjoint Accreditation Services, which upholds national standards for the education of health professionals. NewCo is registered to conduct business as 8872147 Canada Inc. It will be formally launched with a permanent name and brand later in 2015.
Canadian Medical Association - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You continue to wiggle and squirm but have yet to explain why so many Canadians come to the US for medical treatment or the rising dissatisfaction with their gov't run healthcare system.

“42,000 Canadians come to the United States for care” – Really? - PNHP's Official Blog

No squirming here.

Your little free market bullshit doesn't work for the entire population. And when you look at who is representing this picture then you find out that, once again, there are people who are invested and profit off of maintaining the status quo.

And yet we have high level public officials in Canada, that left for the US to get care.

And then we have private businesses that actually specialize in helping people escape their 'free' care.

Timely Medical Alternatives | Timely Surgery at Affordable Prices

Timely Medical is a for-profit company that apparently has enough customers in Canada, willing to pay money, to escape their system, that this company can stay open.

Survey's are always 'wonky'. They always are. So yeah, you can bicker about the survey.

What you can't argue with, is people willing to spend money, enough money that a business specializing in people escaping from the Canadian system.

If the system was so good, there is no possible way someone could make a profitable business helping people escape it. That.... you can't deny. Sorry.

10 Myths About Canadian Health Care, Busted | Physicians for a National Health Program

 

[Andylusion]

A couple of personal anecdotes are sweet but hardly proof that a gov't single-payer system is better as Cowboy Ted claimed, that it is best for the US as many claim, nor does it explain why so many Canadians come to the US for their medical care.

If Canada is so much better, why do they come here and why is Canadian dissatisfaction with their system rising?

Almost 90% of Canadians want health-care complaint line: survey

"A wave of discontent with the nation’s health-care system is sweeping across Canada, with the vast majority of Canadians revealing they feel like outsiders who are powerless to influence their own health care...

An Ipsos Reid survey, commissioned by the Canadian Medical Association and due to be released Monday at the organization’s annual general council meeting in St. John’s, N.L., shows that public satisfaction with the health system continues to slide."

The CMA has two subsidiaries: MD Financial Management and NewCo.

MD Financial Management is a wealth management firm wholly owned by the CMA. MD helps clients build wealth and capitalize on opportunities that ensure they meet their personal and professional goals. MD Financial Management includes MD Financial Management Inc., MD Management Limited, MD Private Trust Company, MD Life Insurance Company and MD Insurance Agency Limited.

NewCo is the temporary name of a new wholly owned CMA subsidiary. It was created on September 1, 2014. This subsidiary delivers information and knowledge products and services. NewCo includes the Canadian Medical Association Journal and PMI physician leadership courses. It also includes clinical tools such as DynaMed, RxTx and POEMs. NewCo also includes Conjoint Accreditation Services, which upholds national standards for the education of health professionals. NewCo is registered to conduct business as 8872147 Canada Inc. It will be formally launched with a permanent name and brand later in 2015.
Canadian Medical Association - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You continue to wiggle and squirm but have yet to explain why so many Canadians come to the US for medical treatment or the rising dissatisfaction with their gov't run healthcare system.

“42,000 Canadians come to the United States for care” – Really? - PNHP's Official Blog

No squirming here.

Your little free market bullshit doesn't work for the entire population. And when you look at who is representing this picture then you find out that, once again, there are people who are invested and profit off of maintaining the status quo.

And yet we have high level public officials in Canada, that left for the US to get care.

And then we have private businesses that actually specialize in helping people escape their 'free' care.

Timely Medical Alternatives | Timely Surgery at Affordable Prices

Timely Medical is a for-profit company that apparently has enough customers in Canada, willing to pay money, to escape their system, that this company can stay open.

Survey's are always 'wonky'. They always are. So yeah, you can bicker about the survey.

What you can't argue with, is people willing to spend money, enough money that a business specializing in people escaping from the Canadian system.

If the system was so good, there is no possible way someone could make a profitable business helping people escape it. That.... you can't deny. Sorry.

10 Myths About Canadian Health Care, Busted | Physicians for a National Health Program

Repeating crap, just makes a ton of crap.

 

[SAYIT]

I never claimed that free market med care works best for everyone. You assumed it in order to justify your lame argument. I specifically refuted Cowboy Ted's claim that "Governments all over the world deliver Healthcare and Education cheaper and better than the fiasco that exists in US..." by pointing out the bogus nature of that claim.
The fact that those who can afford to come to the US for med treatment do so not because our care is "a fiasco" but rather because our care is better.
You've reinforced my claim that given a choice those who could "enjoy" their gov't-run healthcare at home would rather pay to come here for it. Thank you.

And you just bought hook, line and sinker inaccurate surveys that were obtained in an effort to destroy the health care that they have. We can also collect data on people that leave the US to obtain health care. You have to ask, who or what are you defending?

Yeah ... it would never occur to one such as you that you could possibly be gulping the Kool-Aid.

You continue to wiggle and squirm but have yet to explain why so many Canadians come to the US for medical treatment or the rising dissatisfaction with their gov't run healthcare system.

Being a driver in Cleveland, I run across Canadian truck drivers all the time at my stops. I always question them about their healthcare system.

Younger people love the system. You don't pay a dime, they take pretty good care of you, and you don't have to worry about insurance or anything like that. Of course, younger people have less serious conditions than the elder.

Older drivers, the exact opposite. For serious conditions, you don't want to be caught up in Canada. They always suggest that I write to my representatives and tell them to keep what we got. I've heard stories about botched surgeries, terrible care and long waits to get help. I do understand they are good and prescribing pain killers in Canada though. You're going to need them while your name is in line for the next hospital bed.

10 Myths About Canadian Health Care, Busted | Physicians for a National Health Program

Ah ... the irony is so thick with you one could walk on it.

Little more than an hour ago you complained that my source was biased.

So what kind of slant could "Physicians for a National Health Program" possibly have?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Oh and since the Rich CAN pay more they SHOULD pay more.

They DO!!!

Not really. They get tax breaks and find loopholes.Just another reason to vote for Sanders. Its why we had such a high tax rate for the rich in the 50's they couldn't buy politicians then.

And yet they DO still shoulder exponentially more of the tax burden than everyone else combined. "Just another reason to vote for Sanders" basically just amounts to "AND THEY'RE STILL RICH! HOW DARE THOSE BASTARDS NOT BE POOR LIKE ME?!"

 

[Cecilie1200]

Oh and since the Rich CAN pay more they SHOULD pay more.

They DO!!!

Not really. They get tax breaks and find loopholes.Just another reason to vote for Sanders. Its why we had such a high tax rate for the rich in the 50's they couldn't buy politicians then.

Come on. Get real. Even with the tax breaks and loopholes they still pay the brunt of all taxes. I'll bet you you pay very little if any federal income taxes yourself.

I would and could pay more and it would be my duty to do so IF I was paid more by my rich employer. See how that works. Give and Take. He doesn't want to pay me more so I can pay more in taxes and that way spreads the brunt of it across a wider spectrum then not my problem.

So now we get to it. "He's rich, and he doesn't give me his money, so I'll get the government to take it!" Just envy. No more, no less, not worthy of respect.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You think that it's right that I made more money last year than you'll make in your entire life? And, I paid less percentage of my income in federal tax than you did too!

You're the boards biggest Poseur, bigger than Starkey

And yet you can't refute any of my posts. Perhaps you're the boards biggest loser.

Dude, nothing is "free"

That's it? "Dude, nothing is "free"

Well, if you can't understand that, anything else would be pearls before swine.

 

[the_human_being]

Oh and since the Rich CAN pay more they SHOULD pay more.

They DO!!!

Not really. They get tax breaks and find loopholes.Just another reason to vote for Sanders. Its why we had such a high tax rate for the rich in the 50's they couldn't buy politicians then.

And yet they DO still shoulder exponentially more of the tax burden than everyone else combined. "Just another reason to vote for Sanders" basically just amounts to "AND THEY'RE STILL RICH! HOW DARE THOSE BASTARDS NOT BE POOR LIKE ME?!"

Indeed. The Liberals are so very juvenile. They act like kids fighting over who gets the larger piece of a candy bar. You have no right to be rich and successful because I'm too stupid and lazy to accomplish what you have accomplished. I'm a victim.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Pacific Research Institute (PRI), officially the "Pacific Research Institute for Public Policy," is a think tank founded in 1979 whose stated vision is the promotion of "the principles of individual freedom and personal responsibility. The Institute believes these principles are best encouraged through policies that emphasize a free economy, private initiative, and limited government." The institute is a 501(c)3 non-profit corporation, and had $4.8 million in revenue in 2012.[1] The Pacific Research Institute has associated with other think-tanks like the American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, including filing joint briefs in major legal cases.

PRI has received over $1.6 million in donations from the Koch family foundations since 1986, $1.5 million from the Koch conduits DonorsTrust and Donors Capital Fund, and millions from other right-wing foundations, including the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the Searle Freedom Trust, and the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation.
Pacific Research Institute - SourceWatch

Pacific Research Institute. Now there is a trusted source.

So can you explain why Canadians who can afford to opt out of their national system and come to the US for health care do so?

The US Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions thought enough of Pipes to hear her testimony on the not-so-wonderfulness of gov't run healthcare. Just because she doesn't work at Socialists-R-Us doesn't mean she doesn't know her stuff.
In fact ...

I was listening to three ham radio operators. All three were Canadian. All three were in their 70s. Health care came up because one just had a hip replacement. All three had long experience with the health care system.

All of them had nothing but praise for their system.

Unsolicited, unbiased, private conversation.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Oh and since the Rich CAN pay more they SHOULD pay more.

They DO!!!

Not really. They get tax breaks and find loopholes.Just another reason to vote for Sanders. Its why we had such a high tax rate for the rich in the 50's they couldn't buy politicians then.

And yet they DO still shoulder exponentially more of the tax burden than everyone else combined. "Just another reason to vote for Sanders" basically just amounts to "AND THEY'RE STILL RICH! HOW DARE THOSE BASTARDS NOT BE POOR LIKE ME?!"

Indeed. The Liberals are so very juvenile. They act like kids fighting over who gets the larger piece of a candy bar. You have no right to be rich and successful because I'm too stupid and lazy to accomplish what you have accomplished. I'm a victim.

"Liberals believe that if you make money, you're not entitled to it, but if you want money, you are."
Ken Blackwell

 

[Vigilante]

 

[thereisnospoon]

yes,,,when it doesn't fit the narrative dismio

Americans Who've Used Canada's Health-Care System Respond to Current Big-Lie Media Campaign

A couple of personal anecdotes are sweet but hardly proof that a gov't single-payer system is better as Cowboy Ted claimed, that it is best for the US as many claim, nor does it explain why so many Canadians come to the US for their medical care.

If Canada is so much better, why do they come here and why is Canadian dissatisfaction with their system rising?

Almost 90% of Canadians want health-care complaint line: survey

"A wave of discontent with the nation’s health-care system is sweeping across Canada, with the vast majority of Canadians revealing they feel like outsiders who are powerless to influence their own health care...

An Ipsos Reid survey, commissioned by the Canadian Medical Association and due to be released Monday at the organization’s annual general council meeting in St. John’s, N.L., shows that public satisfaction with the health system continues to slide."

The CMA has two subsidiaries: MD Financial Management and NewCo.

MD Financial Management is a wealth management firm wholly owned by the CMA. MD helps clients build wealth and capitalize on opportunities that ensure they meet their personal and professional goals. MD Financial Management includes MD Financial Management Inc., MD Management Limited, MD Private Trust Company, MD Life Insurance Company and MD Insurance Agency Limited.

NewCo is the temporary name of a new wholly owned CMA subsidiary. It was created on September 1, 2014. This subsidiary delivers information and knowledge products and services. NewCo includes the Canadian Medical Association Journal and PMI physician leadership courses. It also includes clinical tools such as DynaMed, RxTx and POEMs. NewCo also includes Conjoint Accreditation Services, which upholds national standards for the education of health professionals. NewCo is registered to conduct business as 8872147 Canada Inc. It will be formally launched with a permanent name and brand later in 2015.
Canadian Medical Association - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You continue to wiggle and squirm but have yet to explain why so many Canadians come to the US for medical treatment or the rising dissatisfaction with their gov't run healthcare system.

Being a driver in Cleveland, I run across Canadian truck drivers all the time at my stops. I always question them about their healthcare system.

Younger people love the system. You don't pay a dime, they take pretty good care of you, and you don't have to worry about insurance or anything like that. Of course, younger people have less serious conditions than the elder.

Older drivers, the exact opposite. For serious conditions, you don't want to be caught up in Canada. They always suggest that I write to my representatives and tell them to keep what we got. I've heard stories about botched surgeries, terrible care and long waits to get help. I do understand they are good and prescribing pain killers in Canada though. You're going to need them while your name is in line for the next hospital bed.

Bullshit.

Yes, when it doesn't fit the narrative, first dismiss it. Then attack those who violate the narrative.
I have first hand knowledge of the great Canadian health care system. And while the initial visit may be timely, if there is any type of special treatment needed, the wait for such treatment can be lengthy.
Free always has a cost. Care in Canada MUST be rationed because there are only so many medical facilities and professionals available.
Socialized medicine is in general a disaster.
It does work to an extent for countries with small populations, but even then the systems are over loaded.
You will believe what you wish. This is not a debate.
Look, if you feel the need to have your medical care provided for you with no out of pocket expense, you are free to emigrate to a nation where that is the policy.
You can also have the confiscatory taxation that goes with it. And the high cost of living.
Again. No response from you is required. This is not a debate.

 

[thereisnospoon]

A couple of personal anecdotes are sweet but hardly proof that a gov't single-payer system is better as Cowboy Ted claimed, that it is best for the US as many claim, nor does it explain why so many Canadians come to the US for their medical care.

If Canada is so much better, why do they come here and why is Canadian dissatisfaction with their system rising?

Almost 90% of Canadians want health-care complaint line: survey

"A wave of discontent with the nation’s health-care system is sweeping across Canada, with the vast majority of Canadians revealing they feel like outsiders who are powerless to influence their own health care...

An Ipsos Reid survey, commissioned by the Canadian Medical Association and due to be released Monday at the organization’s annual general council meeting in St. John’s, N.L., shows that public satisfaction with the health system continues to slide."

The CMA has two subsidiaries: MD Financial Management and NewCo.

MD Financial Management is a wealth management firm wholly owned by the CMA. MD helps clients build wealth and capitalize on opportunities that ensure they meet their personal and professional goals. MD Financial Management includes MD Financial Management Inc., MD Management Limited, MD Private Trust Company, MD Life Insurance Company and MD Insurance Agency Limited.

NewCo is the temporary name of a new wholly owned CMA subsidiary. It was created on September 1, 2014. This subsidiary delivers information and knowledge products and services. NewCo includes the Canadian Medical Association Journal and PMI physician leadership courses. It also includes clinical tools such as DynaMed, RxTx and POEMs. NewCo also includes Conjoint Accreditation Services, which upholds national standards for the education of health professionals. NewCo is registered to conduct business as 8872147 Canada Inc. It will be formally launched with a permanent name and brand later in 2015.
Canadian Medical Association - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You continue to wiggle and squirm but have yet to explain why so many Canadians come to the US for medical treatment or the rising dissatisfaction with their gov't run healthcare system.

Being a driver in Cleveland, I run across Canadian truck drivers all the time at my stops. I always question them about their healthcare system.

Younger people love the system. You don't pay a dime, they take pretty good care of you, and you don't have to worry about insurance or anything like that. Of course, younger people have less serious conditions than the elder.

Older drivers, the exact opposite. For serious conditions, you don't want to be caught up in Canada. They always suggest that I write to my representatives and tell them to keep what we got. I've heard stories about botched surgeries, terrible care and long waits to get help. I do understand they are good and prescribing pain killers in Canada though. You're going to need them while your name is in line for the next hospital bed.

My husband had a friend from England with diabetes, who came here to live with his wife. He was always complaining about having to pay toward his diabetes supplies, since his health insurance had co-pays and deductibles. He waxed poetic about the wonders of England's health care system, where everything he needed was just handed to him without him ever having to even see a list of the costs if he didn't want to. Finally, Joe got tired of hearing it and sat him down for a little math lesson. He went through the difference in the taxes John paid in England versus what he paid here, how much the English government spends on their healthcare system, how much those supplies were costing (because believe it or not, leftists, John was still paying for his supplies in England), and how long it took him to get seen by a doctor in England versus how long it took here. Basically, ALL the costs involved, and the difference between "free" and "indirect payment".

It's not that John was too stupid to understand. It's that, like the left here in America, he had been trained to be lazy and superficial and never look past the first layer where the bill went somewhere else, to where the cost still came out of his pocket.

Bullshit.

Your response indicates admitting defeat.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Bernie is a socialist and that's how socialists think.

Of course he neglects to let everyone know that nothing is free and every taxpayer in America will be footing the bill for his "free" Stuff.

Of course those that can't pay their own way will love it but the taxpayers will be getting the shaft yet again.

Oh and as for universal health care?? Who in their right mind wants the Government responsible for the healthcare of 300 million Americans?

The Govt. who has never done anything cheaply or well in its entire history.

The Govt. where everything turns into mountains of red tape, regulations and bullshit.

Yep. That's what we need. The Govt. in control of our health care. Good God. Talk about a moronic idea.

We are already footing the bill for your republicans war adventures and tax breaks for the rich so...We would rather it go to help the majority of us not a rich 1%.

Then write them a fucking check and stop corrupting our laws and system of government to work out your own self-esteem issues.

No thanks. We will do what must be done to fix this problem.

"We" being you, the mouse in your pocket, and all the people you force to live in your socialist utopia whether they want to or not?

Don't even pretend that you're speaking for the majority of Americans. You're speaking for you and your little elitist clique of leftists who bypass the American people every time they tell you at the ballot box that they don't like your ideas "for their own good". Every single time you have to go to the courts and demand that they overturn the laws passed by the people and their elected representatives, and you start patting yourself on the back because what they wanted didn't meet up with your "superior" vision of morality, you demonstrate that your "we" is the "we" of a kidnapper and his hostage.

Then go live in your 1%er utopia. Not gonna continue here.

Gee. That was a clever response. Quite the non sequitur.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The ideas that all members of society should have access to a system of basic healthcare AND basic education regardless of their ability to pay

are simply commonsense ideas as to what a civilized society should be.

The uncivilized may disagree, but it is up to civilized society to render them powerless and irrelevant.

Here's the forum idiot yet again spouting off that taxpayers owe him free healthcare AND a college education. This from someone who doesn't even know that CVS fills prescriptions for contraceptives.

I think he also believes that PP is a major supplier of women's healthcare where there are "no other providers". Funny thing is, there's no place in this country that doesn't have basic healthcare for women, unless you live on a mountaintop in Idaho or something. In which case, it's your own damned fault. But PP has 820 or so clinics in the whole country, by their own count. Correct my math if I got it wrong, but in a nation with 158 million women, I'm going to say there's no way they're providing anything that isn't already available . . . except abortion.

The question becomes, why the hell do we listen to uninformed idealogues like NY on the subject of healthcare? Why do we take them seriously, or allow them to take themselves seriously?

There is a common assumption that one of PP's functions is to provide breast cancer screenings using mammogram devices.
Not one PP clinic has one. Not a single one.
Planned Parenthood Runs Zero Licensed Mammogram Clinics
listen to this chuck duck and dive,.
Cecile Richards Once Said Planned Parenthood Does Mammograms. Today She Admitted She Lied...
http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/30/s...opis-planned-parenthood-misconceptions-video/
The repeated, misleading claim that Planned Parenthood ‘provides’ mammograms