CrusaderFrank
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a theory is not evidence
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NOPE.......................OBSEERVATIONS = EMPIRICAL DATA
ROFLOBSEERVATIONS = EMPIRICAL DATA
It is the Earth’s atmosphere that makes most life possible.
On the surface, the moon’s temperature during daytime can reach 100°C (212°F).
At night, it can plunge to minus 173°C, or -279.4°F.
In comparison the coldest temperature on Earth was recorded in Antarctica: −89.2°C (−128.6°F). According to theWMO, the hottest was 56.7°C (134°F), measured on 10 July 1913 at Greenland Ranch (Death Valley).
Man could not survive in the temperatures on the moon, even if there was air to breathe.
Humans, plants and animals can’t tolerate the extremes of temperature on Earth unless they evolve special ways to deal with the heat or the cold.
Nearly all life on Earth lives in areas that are more hospitable, where temperatures are far less extreme.
Yet the Earth and the moon are virtually the same distance from the sun
POINT OF INQUIRY
why do we experience much less heat and cold than the moon?
HYPOTHESIS
The answer is because of our atmosphere.
OBSERVATION
The moon doesn’t have one
it is exposed to the full strength of energy coming from the sun
At night, temperatures plunge because there is no atmosphere to keep the heat in, as there is on Earth
CALCULATION FROM STEFAN-BOLTZMAN
The laws of physics tell us that without the atmosphere, the Earth would be approximately 33°C (59.4°F) cooler than it actually is.
BACK TO OBSERVATIONS
This would make most of the surface uninhabitable for humans.
Agriculture as we know it would be more or less impossible if the average temperature was −18 °C.
HYPOTHESIS (if you like}
The reason that the Earth is warm enough to sustain life is because of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.
OBSERVATION
These gases act like a blanket, keeping the Earth warm by preventing some of the sun’s energy being re-radiated into space. The effect is exactly the same as wrapping yourself in a blanket – it reduces heat loss from your body and keeps you warm.
If we add more greenhouse gases to the atmosphere, the effect is like wrapping yourself in a thicker blanket: even less heat is lost.
POINT OF INQUIRY
So how can we tell what effect CO2 is having on temperatures, and if the increase in atmospheric CO2 is really making the planet warmer?
OBSERVATION
One way of measuring the effect of CO2 is by using satellites to compare how much energy is arriving from the sun, and how much is leaving the Earth. What scientists have seen over the last few decades is a gradual decrease in the amount of energy being re-radiated back into space. In the same period, the amount of energy arriving from the sun has not changed very much at all. This is the first piece of evidence: more energy is remaining in the atmosphere.
Don't really care WHAT that is. The site skepticalscience has ATOM BOMB counters on every page drawing an equivalence to the 0.5degC rise in temp during your lifetime to nuclear annihlation. Please try again.
it most likely didn't since all you post is nonsense.
Don't really care WHAT that is. The site skepticalscience has ATOM BOMB counters on every page drawing an equivalence to the 0.5degC rise in temp during your lifetime to nuclear annihlation. Please try again.
That was a response to SSDD who claimed the Skeptical Science article contained no empirical data.
OBSEERVATIONS = EMPIRICAL DATA
Empirical - Relying on or derived from observation or experiment.
OK, so considering the actual definition of empirical, which part of that do you believe is actual empirical evidence that man is causing warming? I read it and they give a description of the hypothesis...and state a few facts, but I don't see anything there that could be construed as empirical evidence that man is causing warming...if you think it is there, then tell me which part you believe is actual empirical evidence.
Oh contrare, the path of the left will be worse, believe you me!!!!! without a home and it being cold without heat, the future would be very painful for my kids. I protect them from that. And since you have no evidence and still buy into the mumbo jumbo you are a fool!
Empirical - Relying on or derived from observation or experiment.
OK, so considering the actual definition of empirical, which part of that do you believe is actual empirical evidence that man is causing warming? I read it and they give a description of the hypothesis...and state a few facts, but I don't see anything there that could be construed as empirical evidence that man is causing warming...if you think it is there, then tell me which part you believe is actual empirical evidence.
As I've said before, I'm not an expert, I'm not a scientist and I'm not certain as to what percentage human activity has on the weather. The empirical evidence - SMOG and Acid Rain - indicate to me that human activity can effect the weather.
Is the impact long term? I know that efforts to control pollution mitigated both; would they have gotten worse had not responsible leaders sought to remedy the cause? I think so.
Will the warming of the Oceans create a long term (permanent?) change? Who knows? I'm simply not willing to take the chance, why you and other so called conservatives do so both suprises and disgusts me.
If sadly funny that the conservative meme worries about our nations debt on future generations, but gives not a moments pause to reflect on their health and well-being.
ROFLYou have said repeatedly that we have no evidence. What do you find in AR5 or in the thousands of peer reviewed scientific studies on which the IPCC bases its conclusions? Do you really consider yourself both educationally qualified and sufficiently knowledgeable about those particular thousands of research papers to conclude no evidence exists?
That would be the past long, long before anything like humans, human culture or human infrastructure existed. It has NOT been wild and wooly while we've been learning how to post videos of our cats to the internet and build Easy Bake Ovens.
guess you haven't seen the latest paper published in the climate of the past...it finds that the last interglacial was considerably warmer than the one we are in...again, not hind cast by the failing models...the failure just never ends for you people, does it?
ROFLYou have said repeatedly that we have no evidence. What do you find in AR5 or in the thousands of peer reviewed scientific studies on which the IPCC bases its conclusions? Do you really consider yourself both educationally qualified and sufficiently knowledgeable about those particular thousands of research papers to conclude no evidence exists?
ROFL you CO2 guys make me laugh so hard. Please stop, your gonna make me choke.ROFLYou have said repeatedly that we have no evidence. What do you find in AR5 or in the thousands of peer reviewed scientific studies on which the IPCC bases its conclusions? Do you really consider yourself both educationally qualified and sufficiently knowledgeable about those particular thousands of research papers to conclude no evidence exists?
Much shorter than most of the dumb fuck comments here. But just a dumb.
The fact remains, Crick, Oreginecman, and so many others have present real scientific papers from real scientists. You people present shit and try to pretend it is real. Flap-yap doesn't buy shit in the real world, and that is all you have.
ROFL you CO2 guys make me laugh so hard. Please stop, your gonna make me choke.ROFLYou have said repeatedly that we have no evidence. What do you find in AR5 or in the thousands of peer reviewed scientific studies on which the IPCC bases its conclusions? Do you really consider yourself both educationally qualified and sufficiently knowledgeable about those particular thousands of research papers to conclude no evidence exists?
Much shorter than most of the dumb fuck comments here. But just a dumb.
The fact remains, Crick, Oreginecman, and so many others have present real scientific papers from real scientists. You people present shit and try to pretend it is real. Flap-yap doesn't buy shit in the real world, and that is all you have.
OBSEERVATIONS = EMPIRICAL DATA
he spouts off a bunch bs and thinks ma and pa middle America should be impressed and just fall at the feet of "globull warming"
well by golly yepper you see that ma he knows his stuff. He can put up a whole bunch of words he must be it
Hey Old Farce, did you learn what plants consume yet? We learned this shit in elementary school. Where were you?ROFL you CO2 guys make me laugh so hard. Please stop, your gonna make me choke.ROFLYou have said repeatedly that we have no evidence. What do you find in AR5 or in the thousands of peer reviewed scientific studies on which the IPCC bases its conclusions? Do you really consider yourself both educationally qualified and sufficiently knowledgeable about those particular thousands of research papers to conclude no evidence exists?
Much shorter than most of the dumb fuck comments here. But just a dumb.
The fact remains, Crick, Oreginecman, and so many others have present real scientific papers from real scientists. You people present shit and try to pretend it is real. Flap-yap doesn't buy shit in the real world, and that is all you have.
Well, I find the willfull ignorance of the retarded more a matter of pity than laughter, so I am not laughing at you. Be kind to your self, and don't hurt yourself getting out of bed.
You have said repeatedly that we have no evidence. What do you find in AR5 or in the thousands of peer reviewed scientific studies on which the IPCC bases its conclusions? Do you really consider yourself both educationally qualified and sufficiently knowledgeable about those particular thousands of research papers to conclude no evidence exists?