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So you do or you don't want to have an honest/in good faith discussion prior to your daughter being hypothetically disciplined for refusing to pledge? I was pretty sure you said you don't want to discuss that part of this issue. Or maybe I don't understand what you mean by "doesnt interest me in the least."First off, we were talking a hypothetical situation wherein it was not discussed at all whether or not there was honest/in good faith discussion before my daughter was hypothetically disciplined for refusing to pledge -
So, there's that.....
Define loyalty and respect for the country or some other country.If you don't teach children loyalty and respect for the country, can you really complain when they choose loyalty and respect for some other country?
What doesnt interest me are your two questions.
The discussion between me and the teacher regarding a forcible pledge on my daughter and then her subsequent discipline and my subsequent suing has nothing to do with that at all with a discussion between me and you and your two questions. I dont know why youre conflating my hypothetical situation with your question about school vouchers or what the hell my engaging your two questions or not has to do with my hypothetical discussion or hypothetical good faith argument with the teacher before suing or not. Zero degrees below nadda. Conflating those two things happened - but i didnt do it.
No, there you go assuming again.
Demanding rights isnt authoritarian. Taking them is.
And id discuss itnwith the teacher first.
Holy crap that's extreme, and brutal...........Awesome job making the point. Forcing groups to repeat or "chant" is the most basic tool of brainwashing. It's why sports teams do it.
It's also how groups make music together, and exercise together, synchronize activities together, etc.
Is being forced to learn the definition of a word, correctly, through rote brainwashing?
Is being forced to learn a song about love, or the history of this country brainwashing?
Is public education brainwashing?
Don't get me wrong I'm all for ending public education, I should be able to send my kids to the school of my choice with my income so I can choose what things I want my kids to be educated and/or brainwashed in. Why should I have to pay for these public brainwashing centers?
They still use it. In fact, I live in one of those states where it is a mandatory morning ritual (even if every kid sat down).
I am not in agreement with the Under God inserted in to the Pledge. However, there is something that I don't get. Reciting it daily is a form of brainwashing. Abstract thinking doesn't begin until the ages of 12-15. So, basically what I hear people say when they are against the Pledge for under God is that brainwashing is fine.
Way to be like North Korea!
You are ENTIRELY correct about this.
But the discussion to be made should be "under god". Nearly everyone in the world is under a god, except for atheists.
Should we ignore that we were born as a Christian Country just to allow atheists to dominate our process? The entire discussion allows everyone in a religion except for atheists. Because the term "god" does not specify which god........
Nearly all forms of communication include forms of brainwashing. The term is overused. Wasted away again in Margarita-vile. Captain Morgan commercials. Coke adds life. Oh say can you see by the dawns early light... Get your homework done or no desert.Holy crap that's extreme, and brutal...........Awesome job making the point. Forcing groups to repeat or "chant" is the most basic tool of brainwashing. It's why sports teams do it.
It's also how groups make music together, and exercise together, synchronize activities together, etc.
Is being forced to learn the definition of a word, correctly, through rote brainwashing?
Is being forced to learn a song about love, or the history of this country brainwashing?
Is public education brainwashing?
Don't get me wrong I'm all for ending public education, I should be able to send my kids to the school of my choice with my income so I can choose what things I want my kids to be educated and/or brainwashed in. Why should I have to pay for these public brainwashing centers?
This the part where you realize that it sure is brainwashing and you move to derail it.
Nearly all forms of communication include forms of brainwashing. The term is overused. Wasted away again in Margarita-vile. Captain Morgan commercials. Coke adds life. Oh say can you see by the dawns early light... Get your homework done or no desert.It's also how groups make music together, and exercise together, synchronize activities together, etc.
Is being forced to learn the definition of a word, correctly, through rote brainwashing?
Is being forced to learn a song about love, or the history of this country brainwashing?
Is public education brainwashing?
Don't get me wrong I'm all for ending public education, I should be able to send my kids to the school of my choice with my income so I can choose what things I want my kids to be educated and/or brainwashed in. Why should I have to pay for these public brainwashing centers?
This the part where you realize that it sure is brainwashing and you move to derail it.
It's all brainwashing.
They still use it. In fact, I live in one of those states where it is a mandatory morning ritual (even if every kid sat down).
I am not in agreement with the Under God inserted in to the Pledge. However, there is something that I don't get. Reciting it daily is a form of brainwashing. Abstract thinking doesn't begin until the ages of 12-15. So, basically what I hear people say when they are against the Pledge for under God is that brainwashing is fine.
Way to be like North Korea!
They still use it. In fact, I live in one of those states where it is a mandatory morning ritual (even if every kid sat down).
I am not in agreement with the Under God inserted in to the Pledge. However, there is something that I don't get. Reciting it daily is a form of brainwashing. Abstract thinking doesn't begin until the ages of 12-15. So, basically what I hear people say when they are against the Pledge for under God is that brainwashing is fine.
Way to be like North Korea!
The US is the only country that has a pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
It was written by a socialist who was also trying to drum up business for selling flags. It worked. They put one in every classroom in America. It is just a rote jumble of words that really carries no message, except, perhaps to Texans, who recite the "One nation, under god, indivisible...", right before they start ranting about succession from the USA (not that they GET the message)
That's the first I heard of the Pilipino pledge. I thought they pledged allegiance to MacArthur.
Why 'Under God' Was Added To The Pledge Of Allegiance in the face of "Free Religion", the catch, no "god" is specified..
Read more: Under God Added To Pledge Of Allegiance - Business Insider
"Two years later, on Flag Day again, Eisenhower also made "In God We Trust" our nation's official motto. The man must have loved his new religion."
So the Left is openly blamed for "taking god out of Government" but a little research openly pins them for putting god into Government which does not line up with Freedom of Religion. ..NO Religion should be forced on ANYONE. Or says the Constitution..
Can you tell us which religion the phrase "under God" establishes?
Well Muslim, Judism, and Christianity all refer to the same god. Hindu a different god. Buddists don't have a god. Atheists are many camps, they are god, their government is god, there is no such thing as a god, etc..
But it does not establish a religion it merely points out that our nation is not above god or even on an equal plane with god. It means it's ok to put your god before your country. At least that's how I take it.
They believe that the nation is inherently evil and should not exist. Or if it exists, the country must do penance every day. What you are looking at is the American equivalent of Ashura, but on a national level.
Interesting the propensity of most conservatives to seek to compel conformity and fear expressions of individual liberty and dissent.
The pledge doesnt stiffle free expression, it is only like about sixty seconds out of their day at most. Just because a nation has symbols is not a bad thing. If you want to tear a nation down, you start dismantleing their symbols and you start from there. I think that is documented in the game plan isnt it?
Why 'Under God' Was Added To The Pledge Of Allegiance in the face of "Free Religion", the catch, no "god" is specified..
Read more: Under God Added To Pledge Of Allegiance - Business Insider
"Two years later, on Flag Day again, Eisenhower also made "In God We Trust" our nation's official motto. The man must have loved his new religion."
So the Left is openly blamed for "taking god out of Government" but a little research openly pins them for putting god into Government which does not line up with Freedom of Religion. ..NO Religion should be forced on ANYONE. Or says the Constitution..
Can you tell us which religion the phrase "under God" establishes?
Well Muslim, Judism, and Christianity all refer to the same god. Hindu a different god. Buddists don't have a god. Atheists are many camps, they are god, their government is god, there is no such thing as a god, etc..
But it does not establish a religion it merely points out that our nation is not above god or even on an equal plane with god. It means it's ok to put your god before your country. At least that's how I take it.
