Scott Walker's achilles heal (-:

[Dana7360]

To suppose that a person who did not finish college is deficient is pure idiocy. As is the assumption that because someone graduated from an Ivy League college they are brilliant.

Because of the nature of my work I have had to switch jobs frequently throughout my career (1975-present). Many, many times the companies I worked for told us that because of a business downturn we would have to produce more with fewer resources (including people). Usually we did it, because we had no choice. We realized that we could work harder and smarter, and the world would not end.

But try something like that in the public sector and people look at you like you are crazy. Any good executive could walk into any one of 95% of American colleges and universities and cut one-third of the budget within two years without compromising the quality of the "product" in the least. But it will never happen. The culture is irredeemably corrupt.

In the 21st century, any leader who does not have a degree is deficient

Trying to claim "common sense" is just another way of saying "stupid"

I have to agree .... mostly. Michael Dell. Steve Jobs. So, a college degree is not necessary to illustrate one is exceptional. But, if a pol doesn't have one, he needs to have a good reason why he went another way.

I honestly don't understand why people think that running a nation is the same thing as running a business.

It's not.

If a business fails then the owners and those who worked there suffer the consequences. Then they go out and find new jobs.

If a nation fails, EVERYONE suffers.

Look at the years 2007 though 2010. Look at the years 1929 though 1937.

On the other hand when a nation succeeds, everyone in the nation succeeds.

Just look at America from 1940 until the mid 1980s. And then again from 1993 until 2001.

I don't think I said being a potus was the same as running a company, or at least I didn't mean to. What I tried to say was I don't see necessarily why the LACK of a college degree should be disqualifying if there's a reason that doesn't display laziness or a lack of intellect and curiosity. The examples of Jobs, Woz and Dell were merely to illustrate people who had different aptitudes that were honed without a college degree. Jobs had an uncanny ability to foresee what people wanted from electronics, and he had an electronic gaming background. Woz just wanted to engineer stuff. Dell likes managing a company.

An Unlikely Path Members of Congress Without Bachelor s Degrees PICTURES - NationalJournal.com

I didn't necessarily think you said that. I think a lot of other people would say that because they believe it.

Running a company isn't the same thing as running a nation so I really don't think there's a comparison.

On the other hand you were comparing men who went into fields they had a natural aptitude for and had enough education to do the jobs they needed to do.

The same thing can't be said with running a nation. A business is a very narrow field. Apple doesn't negotiate international arms treaties or trade treaties. IBM doesn't write budgets for farm bills or legislation to run a nation.

Yes people can become very successful in their narrow field but like most, if you take them out of that narrow field, they're not so good.

Take my husband for example. The man is a genius at work but he had no concept of a calendar or the days of the week. Nor does he have any concept of maintaining a household budget. He has no clue in a lot of areas outside the area of his expertise. You want him doing the job he's doing but you don't want him running the nation. By the way, he does have his degree. A masters degree in fact. I also have my degree. A bachelors degree.

As you said, walker needs education and expertise in economics and a long list of other things to be able to manage a state or nation.

None of which I believe he has.

If you want to see the results of a lazy and disinterested president look no farther than the bush boy.

 

[The Rabbi]

To suppose that a person who did not finish college is deficient is pure idiocy. As is the assumption that because someone graduated from an Ivy League college they are brilliant.

Because of the nature of my work I have had to switch jobs frequently throughout my career (1975-present). Many, many times the companies I worked for told us that because of a business downturn we would have to produce more with fewer resources (including people). Usually we did it, because we had no choice. We realized that we could work harder and smarter, and the world would not end.

But try something like that in the public sector and people look at you like you are crazy. Any good executive could walk into any one of 95% of American colleges and universities and cut one-third of the budget within two years without compromising the quality of the "product" in the least. But it will never happen. The culture is irredeemably corrupt.

In the 21st century, any leader who does not have a degree is deficient

Trying to claim "common sense" is just another way of saying "stupid"

I have to agree .... mostly. Michael Dell. Steve Jobs. So, a college degree is not necessary to illustrate one is exceptional. But, if a pol doesn't have one, he needs to have a good reason why he went another way.

I honestly don't understand why people think that running a nation is the same thing as running a business.

It's not.

If a business fails then the owners and those who worked there suffer the consequences. Then they go out and find new jobs.

If a nation fails, EVERYONE suffers.

Look at the years 2007 though 2010. Look at the years 1929 though 1937.

On the other hand when a nation succeeds, everyone in the nation succeeds.

Just look at America from 1940 until the mid 1980s. And then again from 1993 until 2001.

I don't think I said being a potus was the same as running a company, or at least I didn't mean to. What I tried to say was I don't see necessarily why the LACK of a college degree should be disqualifying if there's a reason that doesn't display laziness or a lack of intellect and curiosity. The examples of Jobs, Woz and Dell were merely to illustrate people who had different aptitudes that were honed without a college degree. Jobs had an uncanny ability to foresee what people wanted from electronics, and he had an electronic gaming background. Woz just wanted to engineer stuff. Dell likes managing a company.

An Unlikely Path Members of Congress Without Bachelor s Degrees PICTURES - NationalJournal.com

I didn't necessarily think you said that. I think a lot of other people would say that because they believe it.

Running a company isn't the same thing as running a nation so I really don't think there's a comparison.

On the other hand you were comparing men who went into fields they had a natural aptitude for and had enough education to do the jobs they needed to do.

The same thing can't be said with running a nation. A business is a very narrow field. Apple doesn't negotiate international arms treaties or trade treaties. IBM doesn't write budgets for farm bills or legislation to run a nation.

Yes people can become very successful in their narrow field but like most, if you take them out of that narrow field, they're not so good.

Take my husband for example. The man is a genius at work but he had no concept of a calendar or the days of the week. Nor does he have any concept of maintaining a household budget. He has no clue in a lot of areas outside the area of his expertise. You want him doing the job he's doing but you don't want him running the nation. By the way, he does have his degree. A masters degree in fact. I also have my degree. A bachelors degree.

As you said, walker needs education and expertise in economics and a long list of other things to be able to manage a state or nation.

None of which I believe he has.

If you want to see the results of a lazy and disinterested president look no farther than the bush boy.

I refuse to support your husband for president.
You need to look up the word "disinterested" so you don't look like an ignoramus. Again.
Companies negotiate contracts all the time, similar to what presidents do with treaties, which are really just contracts. CEOs need to delegate power and assure responsibility. Which is what the president does. The skills arent exactly the same but there is lots of cross over.
Obama of course had none of those skills. And it shows. He is the worst negotiator in history.

 

[candycorn]

332-206...negotiate that.

 

[candycorn]

To suppose that a person who did not finish college is deficient is pure idiocy. As is the assumption that because someone graduated from an Ivy League college they are brilliant.

Because of the nature of my work I have had to switch jobs frequently throughout my career (1975-present). Many, many times the companies I worked for told us that because of a business downturn we would have to produce more with fewer resources (including people). Usually we did it, because we had no choice. We realized that we could work harder and smarter, and the world would not end.

But try something like that in the public sector and people look at you like you are crazy. Any good executive could walk into any one of 95% of American colleges and universities and cut one-third of the budget within two years without compromising the quality of the "product" in the least. But it will never happen. The culture is irredeemably corrupt.

In the 21st century, any leader who does not have a degree is deficient

Trying to claim "common sense" is just another way of saying "stupid"

I have to agree .... mostly. Michael Dell. Steve Jobs. So, a college degree is not necessary to illustrate one is exceptional. But, if a pol doesn't have one, he needs to have a good reason why he went another way.

I honestly don't understand why people think that running a nation is the same thing as running a business.

It's not.

If a business fails then the owners and those who worked there suffer the consequences. Then they go out and find new jobs.

If a nation fails, EVERYONE suffers.

Look at the years 2007 though 2010. Look at the years 1929 though 1937.

On the other hand when a nation succeeds, everyone in the nation succeeds.

Just look at America from 1940 until the mid 1980s. And then again from 1993 until 2001.

I don't think I said being a potus was the same as running a company, or at least I didn't mean to. What I tried to say was I don't see necessarily why the LACK of a college degree should be disqualifying if there's a reason that doesn't display laziness or a lack of intellect and curiosity. The examples of Jobs, Woz and Dell were merely to illustrate people who had different aptitudes that were honed without a college degree. Jobs had an uncanny ability to foresee what people wanted from electronics, and he had an electronic gaming background. Woz just wanted to engineer stuff. Dell likes managing a company.

An Unlikely Path Members of Congress Without Bachelor s Degrees PICTURES - NationalJournal.com

I didn't necessarily think you said that. I think a lot of other people would say that because they believe it.

Running a company isn't the same thing as running a nation so I really don't think there's a comparison.

On the other hand you were comparing men who went into fields they had a natural aptitude for and had enough education to do the jobs they needed to do.

The same thing can't be said with running a nation. A business is a very narrow field. Apple doesn't negotiate international arms treaties or trade treaties. IBM doesn't write budgets for farm bills or legislation to run a nation.

Yes people can become very successful in their narrow field but like most, if you take them out of that narrow field, they're not so good.

Take my husband for example. The man is a genius at work but he had no concept of a calendar or the days of the week. Nor does he have any concept of maintaining a household budget. He has no clue in a lot of areas outside the area of his expertise. You want him doing the job he's doing but you don't want him running the nation. By the way, he does have his degree. A masters degree in fact. I also have my degree. A bachelors degree.

As you said, walker needs education and expertise in economics and a long list of other things to be able to manage a state or nation.

None of which I believe he has.

If you want to see the results of a lazy and disinterested president look no farther than the bush boy.

In a company, the person at the top makes a decision and everyone else rows in that direction. In our government, the person at the top makes a decision and many in government seek to find the easiest way to sabotage them. The skill sets are not exclusive of one another but there isn't as much overlap as some amateur pundits would have you believe.

 

[Vigilante]

Do you realize or understand the type of government Finland uses. I think not, and Canada and some of the others you are touting as examples on your list.
LOL

I don't think there is waste, per se, in education. There is too much constraint on the teachers. I know many teachers and they all seem to say the same thing. Stop getting in their way with things like common core, NCLB testing, and all this nonsense, and let them get on with doing what they are so very good at doing.

Does the declining numbers of our students ability as compared with the rest of the world seem to fit that?

Hey, when you're a small socialist country, you tend to apply your needs to areas that need to be looked at, America, as a large socialist government, is everywhere but where it should be... I know, you're such a fucking genius, you didn't think of that... problem is you don't think, simply agenda driven, right subversive?

 

[Vigilante]

I don't think there is waste, per se, in education. There is too much constraint on the teachers. I know many teachers and they all seem to say the same thing. Stop getting in their way with things like common core, NCLB testing, and all this nonsense, and let them get on with doing what they are so very good at doing.

Does the declining numbers of our students ability as compared with the rest of the world seem to fit that?

Hey dumbfuck,
Your attitude to falling standards is not to ask what are they doing which USA is not... Nope like the dumbfuck you are you are trying to increase the testing, paying teachers less, cutting budgets...

Just because you are a dumb fuck.

So you're a fucking left wing, socialist loving teacher....figures, subversive scumbag!

 

[washamericom]

he's actually releasing his records... thank goodness

it's about time for this country America no ?

LOL

 

[westwall]

Implications for Economic Growth of Governor Walker 8217 s Proposed Higher-Ed Funding Cuts Econbrowser
Can his education cuts be tied to idiots like Sam Brownback?

Really? He's taken on all comers and thrashed them. I think you need to pick a different target before he embarrasses you too.

 

[washamericom]

I don't think there is waste, per se, in education. There is too much constraint on the teachers. I know many teachers and they all seem to say the same thing. Stop getting in their way with things like common core, NCLB testing, and all this nonsense, and let them get on with doing what they are so very good at doing.

Does the declining numbers of our students ability as compared with the rest of the world seem to fit that?

Hey dumbfuck,
Your attitude to falling standards is not to ask what are they doing which USA is not... Nope like the dumbfuck you are you are trying to increase the testing, paying teachers less, cutting budgets...

Just because you are a dumb fuck.

So you're a fucking left wing, socialist loving teacher....figures, subversive scumbag!

you know, you don't have to act like a dick all the time, you can make you point without "hey dumbfuck"

less is more... you know kids read this shit too.

maybe we can all lighten up a little


to much epithet too little thought..

 

[washamericom]

Implications for Economic Growth of Governor Walker 8217 s Proposed Higher-Ed Funding Cuts Econbrowser
Can his education cuts be tied to idiots like Sam Brownback?

Really? He's taken on all comers and thrashed them. I think you need to pick a different target before he embarrasses you too.

Really? He's taken on all comers and thrashed them. I think you need to pick a different target before he embarrasses you too.


yeah... but he's releasing his records

presumably/ostensibly...... so we won't have to go through another seven years of birther...

 

[Vigilante]

I don't think there is waste, per se, in education. There is too much constraint on the teachers. I know many teachers and they all seem to say the same thing. Stop getting in their way with things like common core, NCLB testing, and all this nonsense, and let them get on with doing what they are so very good at doing.

Does the declining numbers of our students ability as compared with the rest of the world seem to fit that?

Hey dumbfuck,
Your attitude to falling standards is not to ask what are they doing which USA is not... Nope like the dumbfuck you are you are trying to increase the testing, paying teachers less, cutting budgets...

Just because you are a dumb fuck.

So you're a fucking left wing, socialist loving teacher....figures, subversive scumbag!

you know, you don't have to act like a dick all the time, you can make you point without "hey dumbfuck"

less is more... you know kids read this shit too.

maybe we can all lighten up a little


to much epithet too little thought..

Now go back and see who called who a dumbfuck in the first place!

 

[washamericom]

Implications for Economic Growth of Governor Walker 8217 s Proposed Higher-Ed Funding Cuts Econbrowser
Can his education cuts be tied to idiots like Sam Brownback?

Really? He's taken on all comers and thrashed them. I think you need to pick a different target before he embarrasses you too.

Really? He's taken on all comers and thrashed them. I think you need to pick a different target before he embarrasses you too.


yeah... but he's releasing his records

presumably/ostensibly...... so we won't have to go through another seven years of birther...

your liberal cocksureness brought this on.... led down the rosepath by the hasty pudding guys.,.

 

[washamericom]

I don't think there is waste, per se, in education. There is too much constraint on the teachers. I know many teachers and they all seem to say the same thing. Stop getting in their way with things like common core, NCLB testing, and all this nonsense, and let them get on with doing what they are so very good at doing.

Does the declining numbers of our students ability as compared with the rest of the world seem to fit that?

Hey dumbfuck,
Your attitude to falling standards is not to ask what are they doing which USA is not... Nope like the dumbfuck you are you are trying to increase the testing, paying teachers less, cutting budgets...

Just because you are a dumb fuck.

So you're a fucking left wing, socialist loving teacher....figures, subversive scumbag!

you know, you don't have to act like a dick all the time, you can make you point without "hey dumbfuck"

less is more... you know kids read this shit too.

maybe we can all lighten up a little


to much epithet too little thought..

Now go back and see who called who a dumbfuck in the first place!

thank you, that's my point, c'mon what difference does it make... when you write angry like that you will scare away the women and children...

try writng like you are speaking to your own family at the dinner table... then we'll all get somewhere. you write really well

let's all make our points without hostility...


it's a lot more fun to be pithy. (see above posts)

 

[Vigilante]

Does the declining numbers of our students ability as compared with the rest of the world seem to fit that?

Hey dumbfuck,
Your attitude to falling standards is not to ask what are they doing which USA is not... Nope like the dumbfuck you are you are trying to increase the testing, paying teachers less, cutting budgets...

Just because you are a dumb fuck.

So you're a fucking left wing, socialist loving teacher....figures, subversive scumbag!

you know, you don't have to act like a dick all the time, you can make you point without "hey dumbfuck"

less is more... you know kids read this shit too.

maybe we can all lighten up a little


to much epithet too little thought..

Now go back and see who called who a dumbfuck in the first place!

thank you, that's my point, c'mon what difference does it make... when you write angry like that you will scare away the women and children...

try writng like you are speaking to your own family at the dinner table... then we'll all get somewhere. you write really well

let's all make our points without hostility...


it's a lot more fun to be pithy. (see above posts)

My point is I answer the left in the usual manner they answer the right... apparently, you've noticed, and so has the pond scum!

 

[Shrimpbox]

We have a serial liar,for a president(a fact)

We have a president with no economic education(a fact)

We have a president with zero foreign policy experience(a fact)

We have a president with no experience in business(a fact)

We have a president who has no leadership abilities according to former cabinet members and political leaders(a fact)

We have a president with no negotiating abilities(a fact born out by history)

So we have a Harvard educated fellow of raging incompetence in government management as our president and some here are worried about whether a two term governor has a qualifying sheepskin or not. We could not do any worse.

 

[asterism]

Walker couldn't graduate from our education system.....why should he expect anyone else to?

Using that logic neither "could" Bill Gates nor Steve Jobs.

 

[asterism]

To suppose that a person who did not finish college is deficient is pure idiocy. As is the assumption that because someone graduated from an Ivy League college they are brilliant.

Because of the nature of my work I have had to switch jobs frequently throughout my career (1975-present). Many, many times the companies I worked for told us that because of a business downturn we would have to produce more with fewer resources (including people). Usually we did it, because we had no choice. We realized that we could work harder and smarter, and the world would not end.

But try something like that in the public sector and people look at you like you are crazy. Any good executive could walk into any one of 95% of American colleges and universities and cut one-third of the budget within two years without compromising the quality of the "product" in the least. But it will never happen. The culture is irredeemably corrupt.

In the 21st century, any leader who does not have a degree is deficient

Trying to claim "common sense" is just another way of saying "stupid"

Tell that to David Geffen, Ted Turner, and Larry Ellison (all Democrats).

In fact:

One in four self-made American billionaires dropped out of college

 

[bripat9643]

Teachers make you do it over and over again till you get it right....

You would be surprised how sloppily some dress.

Never saw one quite this open about her assets.

Hmmm, that's because she's a porn star.

 

[rightwinger]

Walker couldn't graduate from our education system.....why should he expect anyone else to?

Using that logic neither "could" Bill Gates nor Steve Jobs.

Well if Walker went out and built a Fortune 500 company we could talk about him in the same breath as Gates or Jobs

Right now, he is just another guy who flunked out of college

 

[rightwinger]

To suppose that a person who did not finish college is deficient is pure idiocy. As is the assumption that because someone graduated from an Ivy League college they are brilliant.

Because of the nature of my work I have had to switch jobs frequently throughout my career (1975-present). Many, many times the companies I worked for told us that because of a business downturn we would have to produce more with fewer resources (including people). Usually we did it, because we had no choice. We realized that we could work harder and smarter, and the world would not end.

But try something like that in the public sector and people look at you like you are crazy. Any good executive could walk into any one of 95% of American colleges and universities and cut one-third of the budget within two years without compromising the quality of the "product" in the least. But it will never happen. The culture is irredeemably corrupt.

In the 21st century, any leader who does not have a degree is deficient

Trying to claim "common sense" is just another way of saying "stupid"

Tell that to David Geffen, Ted Turner, and Larry Ellison (all Democrats).

In fact:

One in four self-made American billionaires dropped out of college

Is Walker a self made billionaire?