SCOTUS finds voter ID laws constitutional

[Redfish]

Finally, but I never understood why anyone would object to proving who they are before casting their ballot.

 

[Yurt]

link

 

[g5000]

The Supreme Court threw out a lower court ruling which had blocked a Texas voter ID law.

Texas to immediately begin voter ID program following Supreme Court decision ? RT USA

Voter ID laws, in and of themselves, have always been constitutional. However, some voter ID laws are so strict as to be unconstitutional, and have been tossed out. Voter ID laws vary from state to state.

While they are constitutional, even the courts have said they are completely unnecessary.

They are a solution in search of a problem.

 

[Pete7469]

Finally, but I never understood why anyone would object to proving who they are before casting their ballot.

It should be easy to understand.

Bed wetting liberals live in a world of lies and deceit.

Retarding their ability to get their criminally insane leftist political whores into office by making people show ID to vote is cause for objection in their "minds".

How about we remove the requirement to show ID to buy guns, then let them stuff ballot boxes?

It's not as if leftist governments haven't been the greatest cause of mass murder and wars in the last century or anything.

 

[g5000]

No one has ever provided a real world example of voter fraud which ONLY Voter ID could have prevented.

Simple fact.

Most voter fraud can be fixed with existing methods. Proper maintenance of voter registration rolls, in particular. Key word: Proper.

It amazes me faux right wingers are screaming for more government interference in the exercising of their Constitutional rights!

 

[OriginalShroom]

It's sure being a mixed bag of decisions..

There isn't anyone who is going to happy at all the rulings.

 

[g5000]

It's sure being a mixed bag of decisions..

There isn't anyone who is going to happy at all the rulings.

If a state is stupid enough to want Voter ID, go right ahead. But they need to provide evidence it won't disenfranchise voters.

Last year, before the election, Pennsylvania enacted a voter ID law which would have disenfranchised voters. And it was a Republican judge who had the incredible courage to reverse himself which stopped that law from being enacted. The judge had the integrity to go back and actually examine whether or not the law would disenfranchise people, and he found it would. So he reversed his previous ruling.

That Voter ID law did not allow enough time for everyone who did not have an ID to get one in time for the November election.

And that is why you heard the bullshit whining about entire voting precincts in Philly voting for Obama, as if some kind of fraud was going on. This was the faux right wingers attempts to cover up the embarrassment of being proven wrong about Voter ID laws. But gee, an entire black neighborhood chose not to vote for a party which clearly hates them, and tried to stop them from being able to vote. Who would have guessed?

Voter ID is a hugely stupid idea. It solves NOTHING, but does put one more hurdle between you and your constitutional rights.

 

[martybegan]

The actual Texas ID requriements and the exemptions provided:

Here is a list of the acceptable forms of photo ID:

• Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS)

• Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS

• Texas personal identification card issued by DPS

• Texas concealed handgun license issued by DPS

• United States military identification card containing the person’s photograph

• United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s photograph

• United States passport

With the exception of the U.S. citizenship certificate, the identification must be current or have expired no more than 60 days before being presented for voter qualification at the polling place.

Procedures for Voting

When a voter arrives at a polling location, the voter will be asked to present one of the seven (7) acceptable forms of photo ID. Election officials will now be required by state law to determine whether the voter’s name on the identification provided matches the name on the official list of registered voters (“OLRV”). After a voter presents their ID, the election worker will compare it to the OLRV. If the name on the ID matches the name on the list of registered voters, the voter will follow the regular procedures for voting.

If the name does not match exactly but is “substantially similar” to the name on the OLRV, the voter will be permitted to vote as long as the voter signs an affidavit stating that the voter is the same person on the list of registered voters.

If a voter does not have proper identification, the voter will still be permitted to vote provisionally. The voter will have (six) 6 days to present proper identification to the county voter registrar, or the voter’s ballot will be rejected.

Exemption/Exceptions

Voters with a disability may apply with the county voter registrar for a permanent exemption. The application must contain written documentation from either the U.S. Social Security Administration evidencing the applicant’s disability, or from the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs evidencing a disability rating of at least 50 percent. In addition, the applicant must state that he or she has no valid form of photo identification. Those who obtain a disability exemption will be allowed to vote by presenting a voter registration certificate reflecting the exemption. Please contact your voter registrar for more details.

Voters who have a consistent religious objection to being photographed and voters who do not have any valid form of photo identification as a result of certain natural disasters as declared by the President of the United States or the Texas Governor, may vote a provisional ballot, appear at the voter registrar’s office within six (6) calendar days after election day, and sign an affidavit swearing to the religious objection or natural disaster, in order for your ballot to be counted. Please contact your county voter registrar for more details.

Required identification for voting in person - Your Houston News: News

 

[Yurt]

thanks for this, i never saw it in the news which is quite surprising given the controversy surrounding voter ID laws

 

[RetiredGySgt]

No one has ever provided a real world example of voter fraud which ONLY Voter ID could have prevented.

Simple fact.

Most voter fraud can be fixed with existing methods. Proper maintenance of voter registration rolls, in particular. Key word: Proper.

It amazes me faux right wingers are screaming for more government interference in the exercising of their Constitutional rights!

You mean purging the rolls? As I recall the left had a fit about that as well?

 

[rdean]

Finally, but I never understood why anyone would object to proving who they are before casting their ballot.

We are still waiting for that link.

 

[Redfish]

No one has ever provided a real world example of voter fraud which ONLY Voter ID could have prevented.

Simple fact.

Most voter fraud can be fixed with existing methods. Proper maintenance of voter registration rolls, in particular. Key word: Proper.

It amazes me faux right wingers are screaming for more government interference in the exercising of their Constitutional rights!

OK, you go in to register to vote, you have to show some form of ID in order to register. WTF is wrong with having to show that same ID when you go to vote? Why do you on the left object to voters proving who they are before voting?

Who is being disenfranchised by having to prove their identity?

 

[Yurt]

Finally, but I never understood why anyone would object to proving who they are before casting their ballot.

We are still waiting for that link.

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Texas to immediately begin voter ID program following Supreme Court decision ? RT USA

 

[Redfish]

Finally, but I never understood why anyone would object to proving who they are before casting their ballot.

We are still waiting for that link.

link? read the posts in this thread from our resident liberals.

 

[martybegan]

No one has ever provided a real world example of voter fraud which ONLY Voter ID could have prevented.

Simple fact.

Most voter fraud can be fixed with existing methods. Proper maintenance of voter registration rolls, in particular. Key word: Proper.

It amazes me faux right wingers are screaming for more government interference in the exercising of their Constitutional rights!

You mean purging the rolls? As I recall the left had a fit about that as well?

By purging you mean updating? Democrats use purging because it sound scary, just like fraking sounds worse than hydraulic fracturing.

 

[Redfish]

It's sure being a mixed bag of decisions..

There isn't anyone who is going to happy at all the rulings.

If a state is stupid enough to want Voter ID, go right ahead. But they need to provide evidence it won't disenfranchise voters.

Last year, before the election, Pennsylvania enacted a voter ID law which would have disenfranchised voters. And it was a Republican judge who had the incredible courage to reverse himself which stopped that law from being enacted. The judge had the integrity to go back and actually examine whether or not the law would disenfranchise people, and he found it would. So he reversed his previous ruling.

That Voter ID law did not allow enough time for everyone who did not have an ID to get one in time for the November election.

And that is why you heard the bullshit whining about entire voting precincts in Philly voting for Obama, as if some kind of fraud was going on. This was the faux right wingers attempts to cover up the embarrassment of being proven wrong about Voter ID laws. But gee, an entire black neighborhood chose not to vote for a party which clearly hates them, and tried to stop them from being able to vote. Who would have guessed?

Voter ID is a hugely stupid idea. It solves NOTHING, but does put one more hurdle between you and your constitutional rights.

then I guess you think driver ID is equally stupid? how about passport ID? why don't we just trust everyone who says they can drive and let everyone who claims to be a citizen travel without identifying themselves.

your arguments are pig drivel.

 

[iPad]

No one has ever provided a real world example of voter fraud which ONLY Voter ID could have prevented.

Simple fact.

Most voter fraud can be fixed with existing methods. Proper maintenance of voter registration rolls, in particular. Key word: Proper.

It amazes me faux right wingers are screaming for more government interference in the exercising of their Constitutional rights!

Two questions. First, if it *can* be fixed with existing methods, why isn't it? Second, why are we excited about *most* when we should be focused on all?

If even one vote is cast fraudulently, it is an abomination and a horrible tragedy to those who gave their lives for our democracy.

 

[Redfish]

No one has ever provided a real world example of voter fraud which ONLY Voter ID could have prevented.

Simple fact.

Most voter fraud can be fixed with existing methods. Proper maintenance of voter registration rolls, in particular. Key word: Proper.

It amazes me faux right wingers are screaming for more government interference in the exercising of their Constitutional rights!

Two questions. First, if it *can* be fixed with existing methods, why isn't it? Second, why are we excited about *most* when we should be focused on all?

If even one vote is cast fraudulently, it is an abomination and a horrible tragedy to those who gave their lives for our democracy.

voter ID laws would prevent organizations like Acorn from finding ways to have people vote multiple times, for dead people to vote, and for people to vote in the name of Mickey Mouse. In other words, voter ID laws would prevent liberal voter fraud and the liberals count on fraud to win elections.

Thats why they object to voter ID.

 

[M14 Shooter]

No one has ever provided a real world example of voter fraud which ONLY Voter ID could have prevented.

Simple fact.

Most voter fraud can be fixed with existing methods. Proper maintenance of voter registration rolls, in particular. Key word: Proper.

It amazes me faux right wingers are screaming for more government interference in the exercising of their Constitutional rights!

The meaningful exercise of the right to vote hinges on the fact that you are the person you say you are when you cast your ballot; as such, regardless of any demonstrated fraud, the state has a compelling interest in making sure that is the case.

This can only happen when there is a way to positively identify you. A state-issued photo ID is both the most effective and least restrictive means to this end.

 

[Redfish]

No one has ever provided a real world example of voter fraud which ONLY Voter ID could have prevented.

Simple fact.

Most voter fraud can be fixed with existing methods. Proper maintenance of voter registration rolls, in particular. Key word: Proper.

It amazes me faux right wingers are screaming for more government interference in the exercising of their Constitutional rights!

The meaningful exercise of the right to vote hinges on the fact that you are the person you say you are when you cast your ballot; as such, regardless of any demonstrated fraud, the state has a compelling interest in making sure that is the case.

This can only happen when there is a way to positively identify you. A state-issued photo ID is both the most effective and least restrictive means to this end.

I have yet to hear from one liberal who can tell us who is prevented from voting by voter ID laws.

Who is our society today does not have some form of govt issued ID? No one.

They make a false objection because they want the dems to be able to continue to stuff the ballot boxes with illegal votes.