Senate Impeachment Trial Thread.

[colfax_m]

No wonder why Trumps approval is at the highest right now.


•Transcript shows no conditionality
•Zelensky: no quid pro quo/pressure
•Ukraine didn't know of aid pause
•No Dem witness testified that POTUS said any conditionality
•Ukraine got aid, did nothing for it
•Trump strengthened Ukraine support

Twitter

1. The transcript clearly demonstrated that Trump viewed Ukraine as personally indebted to him.
2. Hardly exculpatory. This is the leader of a nation that is still subject to Trump’s whims. These statements should be considered in this context.
3. Factually untrue
4. Circumstantial evidence all points to conditionality. No testimony has disproven this.
5. Hardly exculpatory. Aid was released only after the whistleblower report and the circumstances of exactly how it was released remain ambiguous.
6. So what? That’s not a relevant issue.

 

[yidnar]

Their attempt was doomed more than three years ago.

Right then they should have instead tried to find pro-American candidates to run. Now sore loserdom will be all of the result for their effort.

their are no pro America 1st in the democratic party . they are all globalist taking advantage of tax payer money and foreign aid to enrich themselves and their family and friends ie...Biden

 

[Weatherman2020]

No wonder why Trumps approval is at the highest right now.


•Transcript shows no conditionality
•Zelensky: no quid pro quo/pressure
•Ukraine didn't know of aid pause
•No Dem witness testified that POTUS said any conditionality
•Ukraine got aid, did nothing for it
•Trump strengthened Ukraine support

Twitter

1. The transcript clearly demonstrated that Trump viewed Ukraine as personally indebted to him.
2. Hardly exculpatory. This is the leader of a nation that is still subject to Trump’s whims. These statements should be considered in this context.
3. Factually untrue
4. Circumstantial evidence all points to conditionality. No testimony has disproven this.
5. Hardly exculpatory. Aid was released only after the whistleblower report and the circumstances of exactly how it was released remain ambiguous.
6. So what? That’s not a relevant issue.

Just 5 more years to go, snowflake!

 

[Superbadbrutha]

I will give Trump Humpers, Trump's lawyers and republicans in the senate credit, they have their lies together. What a joke.

 

[Oddball]

but....but....but.....but....but....

 

[yidnar]

how anyone can sit through shit is just amazing....

didnt have to sit but 2hrs today ...thats all the time it took to utterly destroy the dems lies .

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Many on the right have been propagating the lie that to remove Trump from office would be to ‘overturn’ the 2016 General Election.

This is as ignorant as it is wrong.

Presidents are not elected by the people – they’re elected by the states. The states have the authority to elect a president and they have the authority to remove a president from office.

And as the body representing the states, the Senate has the authority to remove Trump from office; the states (the Senate) removing Trump from office is not ‘interference’ because it was the states that elected Trump president in 2016.

Then there’s this desperate sophistry from the right:

‘Cipollone said removing Trump and taking him off the ballot in November would mean having to “tear up all of the ballots across this country on your own initiative, take that decision away from the American people.”’

Defense at Senate trial says ousting Trump would be 'massive interference' in election

This fails as a red herring fallacy.

Your desperation is showing. These are the same states the democrats bitched about because of the EC.

Your best hope right now is the dems decide to let this go. You’re getting your asses handed to you.

Who’s the idiot that thought putting pencil neck up against Sekulow was a good idea anyway? Holy shit.

 

[yidnar]

No wonder why Trumps approval is at the highest right now.


•Transcript shows no conditionality
•Zelensky: no quid pro quo/pressure
•Ukraine didn't know of aid pause
•No Dem witness testified that POTUS said any conditionality
•Ukraine got aid, did nothing for it
•Trump strengthened Ukraine support

Twitter

1. The transcript clearly demonstrated that Trump viewed Ukraine as personally indebted to him.
2. Hardly exculpatory. This is the leader of a nation that is still subject to Trump’s whims. These statements should be considered in this context.
3. Factually untrue
4. Circumstantial evidence all points to conditionality. No testimony has disproven this.
5. Hardly exculpatory. Aid was released only after the whistleblower report and the circumstances of exactly how it was released remain ambiguous.
6. So what? That’s not a relevant issue.

Trump delayed aid to other countries also ! he has a pattern of doing this to take time to insure the money is going to be used in the correct way ! thats a fact that was laid out today ! the dems have stepped in shit and cant change their smelly shoes ! its over for yall in 2020

 

[occupied]

For Trump to be right means that all future presidents are above the law and impeachment is forever negated as a congressional power. We are being set up to accept the death of righteousness in government.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Not even close. They lied and twisted and ommitted. There is no truth in them.

That's strange because the testimony they showed was that of the dems own witnesses.

 

[colfax_m]

No wonder why Trumps approval is at the highest right now.


•Transcript shows no conditionality
•Zelensky: no quid pro quo/pressure
•Ukraine didn't know of aid pause
•No Dem witness testified that POTUS said any conditionality
•Ukraine got aid, did nothing for it
•Trump strengthened Ukraine support

Twitter

1. The transcript clearly demonstrated that Trump viewed Ukraine as personally indebted to him.
2. Hardly exculpatory. This is the leader of a nation that is still subject to Trump’s whims. These statements should be considered in this context.
3. Factually untrue
4. Circumstantial evidence all points to conditionality. No testimony has disproven this.
5. Hardly exculpatory. Aid was released only after the whistleblower report and the circumstances of exactly how it was released remain ambiguous.
6. So what? That’s not a relevant issue.

Just 5 more years to go, snowflake!

It’s almost as if their defense isn’t much of a defense.

 

[colfax_m]

No wonder why Trumps approval is at the highest right now.


•Transcript shows no conditionality
•Zelensky: no quid pro quo/pressure
•Ukraine didn't know of aid pause
•No Dem witness testified that POTUS said any conditionality
•Ukraine got aid, did nothing for it
•Trump strengthened Ukraine support

Twitter

1. The transcript clearly demonstrated that Trump viewed Ukraine as personally indebted to him.
2. Hardly exculpatory. This is the leader of a nation that is still subject to Trump’s whims. These statements should be considered in this context.
3. Factually untrue
4. Circumstantial evidence all points to conditionality. No testimony has disproven this.
5. Hardly exculpatory. Aid was released only after the whistleblower report and the circumstances of exactly how it was released remain ambiguous.
6. So what? That’s not a relevant issue.

Trump delayed aid to other countries also ! he has a pattern of doing this to take time to insure the money is going to be used in the correct way ! thats a fact that was laid out today ! the dems have stepped in shit and cant change their smelly shoes ! its over for yall in 2020

Except there was no policy review to ensure that the money was used “in the correct way”. Trump’s after the fact explanation doesn’t bear scrutiny. It’s just another attempt to rewrite history.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

For Trump to be right means that all future presidents are above the law and impeachment is forever negated as a congressional power. We are being set up to accept the death of righteousness in government.

You assholes made that happen then. You ruined impeachment just like you’ve fucked over racism, sexism and everything else. There is nothing righteous about you fucking people. Who do you think you’re kidding?

 

[occupied]

For Trump to be right means that all future presidents are above the law and impeachment is forever negated as a congressional power. We are being set up to accept the death of righteousness in government.

You assholes made that happen then. You ruined impeachment just like you’ve fucked over racism, sexism and everything else. There is nothing righteous about you fucking people. Who do you think you’re kidding?

Every republican president since Nixon has directly attacked the boundaries of what a president may do. Conservatives just go along with it and then bitch when a democratic president uses those powers, Make up your minds. Is the president a king or is he merely the most senior public servant?

 

[Nostra]

TRUMP lawyer PAT CIPOLLONE: “Why would you lock everybody out of it from the president's side? ... It’s evidence they themselves don’t believe in the facts of their case.”

THE FACTS: Trump wasn't locked out. He rejected an invitation from the House Judiciary Committee to participate in the hearings that ultimately produced the articles of impeachment.

The House Clowns told Trump he could participate AFTER Nazi Pelousy already told them to write the articles of impeachment. Why go in at that point?

You really lap up any dumbfuck Dimwinger talking point you are fed, huh?

 

[Nostra]

No wonder why Trumps approval is at the highest right now.


•Transcript shows no conditionality
•Zelensky: no quid pro quo/pressure
•Ukraine didn't know of aid pause
•No Dem witness testified that POTUS said any conditionality
•Ukraine got aid, did nothing for it
•Trump strengthened Ukraine support

Twitter

1. The transcript clearly demonstrated that Trump viewed Ukraine as personally indebted to him.
2. Hardly exculpatory. This is the leader of a nation that is still subject to Trump’s whims. These statements should be considered in this context.
3. Factually untrue
4. Circumstantial evidence all points to conditionality. No testimony has disproven this.
5. Hardly exculpatory. Aid was released only after the whistleblower report and the circumstances of exactly how it was released remain ambiguous.
6. So what? That’s not a relevant issue.

You are delusional. Typical Dimwinger since Nov 2016.

 

[Nostra]

I will give Trump Humpers, Trump's lawyers and republicans in the senate credit, they have their lies together. What a joke.

Irony.

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

No wonder why Trumps approval is at the highest right now.


•Transcript shows no conditionality
•Zelensky: no quid pro quo/pressure
•Ukraine didn't know of aid pause
•No Dem witness testified that POTUS said any conditionality
•Ukraine got aid, did nothing for it
•Trump strengthened Ukraine support

Twitter

1. The transcript clearly demonstrated that Trump viewed Ukraine as personally indebted to him.
2. Hardly exculpatory. This is the leader of a nation that is still subject to Trump’s whims. These statements should be considered in this context.
3. Factually untrue
4. Circumstantial evidence all points to conditionality. No testimony has disproven this.
5. Hardly exculpatory. Aid was released only after the whistleblower report and the circumstances of exactly how it was released remain ambiguous.
6. So what? That’s not a relevant issue.

You are delusional. Typical Dimwinger since Nov 2016.

I'd say since 1916 if ya ask me.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Everything that guy just said is bullshit!

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

I will give Trump Humpers, Trump's lawyers and republicans in the senate credit, they have their lies together. What a joke.

Are you shittin me man? Did you just wake up from October?