Sequestration: Blame goes to GOP

you need to step out from under your rock into the world of light and reality


Surely you jest. Consider the implications of his rhetoric as he raises to paint the most extreme picture in order to make hay out of manufactures crises. You should probably emerge from the cave that has been so hospitable to you. At the current pace, unemployment, massive debt, never ending spending....we are going to be in a profoundly dire situation in a few years. Ignore it at your own peril but this road will cease.
What did GOP leaders and members of Congress say up until only a few weeks ago about the sequester being a serious danger? Most everyone said it was an extreme trigger mechanism that no sane people would allow to go through -- now the GOP and you are totally ignoring what was said a little while ago?


hmmmmmmmmmmmm :eek:

I could care less about the GOP. If we cant trim this pitiful small amount, then we're cooked as a country.
 
Whom do we believe...

Dante, or Bob Woodward?

The finger-pointing began during the third presidential debate last fall, on Oct. 22, when President Obama blamed Congress. “The sequester is not something that I’ve proposed,” Obama said. “It is something that Congress has proposed.”

The White House chief of staff at the time, Jack Lew, who had been budget director during the negotiations that set up the sequester in 2011, backed up the president two days later.

“There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger,” Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It “was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure.”


The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book “The Price of Politics” shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.


Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved."


Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post
Only a Misinformation Voter would be stupid enough to believe the thoroughly discredited Woodward. If Woodward is not full of shit then explain how a sequester proposed by Obama on July 27th appeared on Boner's website on July 25th????????

Two-Step Approach to Hold President Obama Accountable | Speaker.gov

CAPS TO CONTROL FUTURE SPENDING

The framework imposes spending caps that would establish clear limits on future spending and serve as a barrier against government expansion while the economy grows. Failure to remain below these caps will trigger automatic across-the-board cuts (otherwise known as sequestration). This is the same mechanism used in the 1997 Balanced Budget Agreement.
John Boehner, July 25, 2011
 
Whom do we believe...

Dante, or Bob Woodward?

The finger-pointing began during the third presidential debate last fall, on Oct. 22, when President Obama blamed Congress. “The sequester is not something that I’ve proposed,” Obama said. “It is something that Congress has proposed.”

The White House chief of staff at the time, Jack Lew, who had been budget director during the negotiations that set up the sequester in 2011, backed up the president two days later.

“There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger,” Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It “was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure.”


The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book “The Price of Politics” shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.


Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved."


Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post
Only a Misinformation Voter would be stupid enough to believe the thoroughly discredited Woodward. If Woodward is not full of shit then explain how a sequester proposed by Obama on July 27th appeared on Boner's website on July 25th????????

Two-Step Approach to Hold President Obama Accountable | Speaker.gov

CAPS TO CONTROL FUTURE SPENDING

The framework imposes spending caps that would establish clear limits on future spending and serve as a barrier against government expansion while the economy grows. Failure to remain below these caps will trigger automatic across-the-board cuts (otherwise known as sequestration). This is the same mechanism used in the 1997 Balanced Budget Agreement.
John Boehner, July 25, 2011

edthepartisanhack are you still lying about sequester not being obama's idea and suggestion?
 
Translation:

"Obama's idea??? Crap.

Time to move the goalpost... [IMGhttp://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/The_Missourian/Flags/goalposts.gif[/IMG]"

The goal post has been moved when the GOP decided having sequestration come about was all of a sudden not a bad idea. a few weeks ago they were saying it was bad, and if it is so good why try to blame Obama?

Why would the GOP blame Obama for something the GOP says will amount to nothing?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

:laugh2:

Uhhhh, obama said it was the right thing to do last year, and now he is saying it would completely destroy modern civilization. So who is the hypocrite?

President Obama signed the bill shortly after it was passed by the Senate. In doing so, the president said, "Is this the deal I would have preferred? No. But this compromise does make a serious down payment on the deficit reduction we need, and gives each party a strong incentive to get a balanced plan done before the end of the year

Budget Control Act of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
The goal post has been moved when the GOP decided having sequestration come about was all of a sudden not a bad idea. a few weeks ago they were saying it was bad, and if it is so good why try to blame Obama?

Why would the GOP blame Obama for something the GOP says will amount to nothing?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

:laugh2:

Uhhhh, obama said it was the right thing to do last year, and now he is saying it would completely destroy modern civilization. So who is the hypocrite?

Well, let's be fair. MAYBE Obama meant that it is the right thing to do to destroy modern civilization.

I'm sure he means American civilization, though.

The GOP had to pass the bill. Obama suggested it. :laugh2:

US House of Representatives: David Dreier (R) California -
No Co-Sponsors

US Senate: Sen. Thomas “Tom” Harkin [D-IA]
No Co-Sponsors


http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h2693/show

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s365

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_Control_Act_of_2011#Legislative_history
 
Uhhhh, obama said it was the right thing to do last year, and now he is saying it would completely destroy modern civilization. So who is the hypocrite?

Well, let's be fair. MAYBE Obama meant that it is the right thing to do to destroy modern civilization.

I'm sure he means American civilization, though.

The GOP had to pass the bill. Obama suggested it. :laugh2:

US House of Representatives: David Dreier (R) California -
No Co-Sponsors

US Senate: Sen. Thomas “Tom” Harkin [D-IA]
No Co-Sponsors


H.R.2693: Budget Control Act of 2011 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress

Budget Control Act of 2011 (2011; 112th Congress S. 365) - GovTrack.us

Budget Control Act of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Captain Obvious lives.

Nobody said that the GOP (Boehner and others) don't SHARE some responsibility. They certainly do.

But Obama should really check his bullshit rhetoric. He can't have it both ways except with the dishonest fawning liberal media and many of the sheep-like liberals. But reality is tougher than that. Somebody who likes that jerk-off ought to tell the President that he should stop pointing his fingers at others when his own responsibility is so massive.
 
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PolitiFact | Barack Obama says Congress owns sequestration cuts

Woodward’s reporting shows clearly that defense sequestration was an idea that came out of Obama’s White House. But the intention was to force Republicans to negotiate, not to actually put the cuts into effect.
 
Whom do we believe...

Dante, or Bob Woodward?
The finger-pointing began during the third presidential debate last fall, on Oct. 22, when President Obama blamed Congress. “The sequester is not something that I’ve proposed,” Obama said. “It is something that Congress has proposed.”

The White House chief of staff at the time, Jack Lew, who had been budget director during the negotiations that set up the sequester in 2011, backed up the president two days later.

“There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger,” Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It “was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure.”


The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book “The Price of Politics” shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.


Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved."


Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post
Only a Misinformation Voter would be stupid enough to believe the thoroughly discredited Woodward. If Woodward is not full of shit then explain how a sequester proposed by Obama on July 27th appeared on Boner's website on July 25th????????

Two-Step Approach to Hold President Obama Accountable | Speaker.gov

CAPS TO CONTROL FUTURE SPENDING

The framework imposes spending caps that would establish clear limits on future spending and serve as a barrier against government expansion while the economy grows. Failure to remain below these caps will trigger automatic across-the-board cuts (otherwise known as sequestration). This is the same mechanism used in the 1997 Balanced Budget Agreement.
John Boehner, July 25, 2011

edthepartisanhack are you still lying about sequester not being obama's idea and suggestion?


What choice does he have?

Obama is responsible for sequestration, and everyone knows Obama never takes the blame for anything, so he's trying to blame it on someone else as usual...and it's blown up in his face.

His deluded sycophants are trapped between a rock and a hard place, attempting to defend the indefensible.
 
Only a Misinformation Voter would be stupid enough to believe the thoroughly discredited Woodward. If Woodward is not full of shit then explain how a sequester proposed by Obama on July 27th appeared on Boner's website on July 25th????????

Two-Step Approach to Hold President Obama Accountable | Speaker.gov

CAPS TO CONTROL FUTURE SPENDING

The framework imposes spending caps that would establish clear limits on future spending and serve as a barrier against government expansion while the economy grows. Failure to remain below these caps will trigger automatic across-the-board cuts (otherwise known as sequestration). This is the same mechanism used in the 1997 Balanced Budget Agreement.
John Boehner, July 25, 2011

edthepartisanhack are you still lying about sequester not being obama's idea and suggestion?


What choice does he have?

Obama is responsible for sequestration, and everyone knows Obama never takes the blame for anything, so he's trying to blame it on someone else as usual...and it's blown up in his face.

His deluded sycophants are trapped between a rock and a hard place, attempting to defend the indefensible.

Even democratic leaning politfact says it belongs too obama. Check out the post before yours
 
Whom do we believe...

Dante, or Bob Woodward?

The finger-pointing began during the third presidential debate last fall, on Oct. 22, when President Obama blamed Congress. “The sequester is not something that I’ve proposed,” Obama said. “It is something that Congress has proposed.”

The White House chief of staff at the time, Jack Lew, who had been budget director during the negotiations that set up the sequester in 2011, backed up the president two days later.

“There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger,” Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It “was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure.”


The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book “The Price of Politics” shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.


Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved."


Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post
Only a Misinformation Voter would be stupid enough to believe the thoroughly discredited Woodward. If Woodward is not full of shit then explain how a sequester proposed by Obama on July 27th appeared on Boner's website on July 25th????????

Two-Step Approach to Hold President Obama Accountable | Speaker.gov

CAPS TO CONTROL FUTURE SPENDING

The framework imposes spending caps that would establish clear limits on future spending and serve as a barrier against government expansion while the economy grows. Failure to remain below these caps will trigger automatic across-the-board cuts (otherwise known as sequestration). This is the same mechanism used in the 1997 Balanced Budget Agreement.
John Boehner, July 25, 2011

edthepartisanhack are you still lying about sequester not being obama's idea and suggestion?
Well that certainly explains how July 27th comes before July 25th!!!! :rofl::lmao:

Here is the GOP proposing sequestration in May, 2011.

Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

Returning to Responsible Fiscal Policies Act

SEC. 253A. ENFORCING GDP OUTLAY LIMITS.

`(a) Enforcing GDP Outlay Limits- In this section, the term `GDP outlay limit' means an amount, as estimated by OMB, equal to--
`(1) the average GDP for the first 5 of the 6 fiscal years preceding the target fiscal year; multiplied by
`(2) 23 percent for fiscal year 2012; 22 percent for fiscal year 2013; 21 percent for fiscal year 2014; 19.5 percent for fiscal year 2015; and 18 percent for fiscal year 2016 and each subsequent fiscal year.
`(b) GDP Outlay Limit and Outlays-
`(1) DETERMINING THE GDP OUTLAY LIMIT- The Office of Management and Budget shall estimate the GDP outlay limit for the target fiscal year at the outset of the previous fiscal year, on April 30, on August 20, and 15 days after the conclusion of the fiscal year. CBO shall provide advisory reports calculating the GDP outlay limit at identical times.
`(2) TOTAL FEDERAL OUTLAYS- In this section, total Federal outlays shall include all on-budget and off-budget outlays.
`© Sequestration-
`(1) IN GENERAL-
`(A) EXCESS SPENDING- Not later than 45 calendar days after the beginning of a fiscal year, OMB shall conduct a sequestration to eliminate the excess outlay amount.
 
edthepartisanhack are you still lying about sequester not being obama's idea and suggestion?


What choice does he have?

Obama is responsible for sequestration, and everyone knows Obama never takes the blame for anything, so he's trying to blame it on someone else as usual...and it's blown up in his face.

His deluded sycophants are trapped between a rock and a hard place, attempting to defend the indefensible.

Even democratic leaning politfact says it belongs too obama. Check out the post before yours

Good find. :thup:

Obama proposed sequestration, his team negotiated sequestration, and now he is trying distance himself from the blame, as usual.

Another example of Obama's inability to take responsibility for his decisions.

Now, Dante or Ed will come back and say "But the Republicans..."

But nothing...Obama must take the blame for his actions in regards to sequestration, and Benghazi, and Fast and Furious.

Again he is proven a pathological liar...and the left wonders why we don't trust a single word that comes from the office of the president.
 
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PolitiFact | Barack Obama says Congress owns sequestration cuts

Woodward’s reporting shows clearly that defense sequestration was an idea that came out of Obama’s White House. But the intention was to force Republicans to negotiate, not to actually put the cuts into effect.
Woodward has been thoroughly discredited, unless you can show how July 27 came before July 25.

Riiiight, Politifact was duped, Woodward is lying...but Ed, Ed knows the truth!

You tell them Ed...everyone is a liar except you and Obama. :cuckoo:
 
Bob Woodward continues to claim that Sequestration is the brain child of Oblamer. Woodward is far from being a conservative.
 
Below is from an article by Bob Woodward.

snippet:

The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book “The Price of Politics” shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.

Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved.

Nabors has told others that they checked with the president before going to see Reid. A mandatory sequester was the only action-forcing mechanism they could devise. Nabors has said, “We didn’t actually think it would be that hard to convince them” — Reid and the Republicans — to adopt the sequester. “It really was the only thing we had. There was not a lot of other options left on the table.”
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In fact, the final deal reached between Vice President Biden and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) in 2011 included an agreement that there would be no tax increases in the sequester in exchange for what the president was insisting on: an agreement that the nation’s debt ceiling would be increased for 18 months, so Obama would not have to go through another such negotiation in 2012, when he was running for reelection.

So when the president asks that a substitute for the sequester include not just spending cuts but also new revenue, he is moving the goal posts. His call for a balanced approach is reasonable, and he makes a strong case that those in the top income brackets could and should pay more. But that was not the deal he made.

Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post
 
rulings%2Ftom-mostlyfalse.gif


PolitiFact | Barack Obama says Congress owns sequestration cuts

Woodward’s reporting shows clearly that defense sequestration was an idea that came out of Obama’s White House. But the intention was to force Republicans to negotiate, not to actually put the cuts into effect.
Woodward has been thoroughly discredited, unless you can show how July 27 came before July 25.

Riiiight, Politifact was duped, Woodward is lying...but Ed, Ed knows the truth!

You tell them Ed...everyone is a liar except you and Obama. :cuckoo:
I know that July 27 does not come before July 25 and July does not come before May, but both would have to for Woodward not to be lying!!!!
 
Below is from an article by Bob Woodward.

snippet:

The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book “The Price of Politics” shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.

Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved.

Nabors has told others that they checked with the president before going to see Reid. A mandatory sequester was the only action-forcing mechanism they could devise. Nabors has said, “We didn’t actually think it would be that hard to convince them” — Reid and the Republicans — to adopt the sequester. “It really was the only thing we had. There was not a lot of other options left on the table.”
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In fact, the final deal reached between Vice President Biden and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) in 2011 included an agreement that there would be no tax increases in the sequester in exchange for what the president was insisting on: an agreement that the nation’s debt ceiling would be increased for 18 months, so Obama would not have to go through another such negotiation in 2012, when he was running for reelection.

So when the president asks that a substitute for the sequester include not just spending cuts but also new revenue, he is moving the goal posts. His call for a balanced approach is reasonable, and he makes a strong case that those in the top income brackets could and should pay more. But that was not the deal he made.

Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post
Jesus, how many times are you pinheads going to post that thoroughly discredited Woodward article?????

Two-Step Approach to Hold President Obama Accountable | Speaker.gov

CAPS TO CONTROL FUTURE SPENDING

The framework imposes spending caps that would establish clear limits on future spending and serve as a barrier against government expansion while the economy grows. Failure to remain below these caps will trigger automatic across-the-board cuts (otherwise known as sequestration). This is the same mechanism used in the 1997 Balanced Budget Agreement.
John Boehner, July 25, 2011
 
Republicorp will own it because it was only instituted to get them to work together & produce something. Turns out that asking them to work together is too much to ask from Boehner's TParty House.
 
ACROSS THE BOARD CUTS.

Not the selctive shit which the President is now threatening the People with.

Boehner's reference to a sequester is not the same thing as the President's proposed "sequester."
 
ACROSS THE BOARD CUTS.

Not the selctive shit which the President is now threatening the People with.

Boehner's reference to a sequester is not the same thing as the President's proposed "sequester."
So now the "it all depends on what the meaning of is, is" is suddenly valid!!! How many times have I said that CON$ are always on both sides of every issue depending on which way the wind blows???

October 11, 2011
RUSH: * I've often said, I said last week he who controls the definition of words, the meaning of words, controls the debate.* He who controls the language controls the debate.*
 

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